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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
    Everybody Would Be Doing It."



    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "The Expected Return of Stocks [As Reported By The Stock-Return Predictor] Needs To Be At Least the Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) Rate for Stock Investing To Make Sense."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I Have Used Valuations to Adjust My Asset Allocation For Many Years With Very Favorable Results."





    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "I Don't Care If You Do or Don't Believe That the Market Will Behave Similarly in the Future As It Has in the Past. Either Way, This [The Stock-Return Predictor] Is an Excellent Way to Understand What the Market Has Done In the Past."


    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "My Role Is To Give People Who Don't Like What the Historical Stock-Return Data Says About the Effect of Valuations on Long-Term Returns Somebody To Yell At On Internet Discussion Boards."



    Rob Bennett at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "It Really Is a Shame and Indefensible That So Many Feel the Need to Jump Into It With No Interest of Posting on the Topic But Just to Disrupt. Are You That Insecure? Some on the Forum Have an Interest in This Topic. If You Don't, Stay Out!"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "Irrational Behavior Does Follow Patterns. But How Many Experts in Behavioral Finance Believe That Such Knowledge Can Be Used to Predict Markets? Basically, None. Your Model Cannot Attain the Level of Predictive Value You Claim."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "The Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Are Based on History. This [The Retirement Risk Evaluator] Shows, Based on the Same History, What the Probabilities Are for the Future at Various Starting Points. If the First Has Value, Then Surely This Does Too."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum

  • "There Are Hundreds of People Who Contributed to This. This Calculator [The Stock-Return Predictor] Demonstrates in a Compelling Way the Power of This New Internet Discussion-Board Communications Medium."




    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "A P/E10 of'26' Is Bad. Now Look at the 30-Year Return Predicted by the Calculator -- 5.4 Percent Real. That's Not Bad. There Are All Sorts of Strategic Implications That Follow From Understanding That Stocks Provide Different Sorts of Returns Over Different Sorts of Time-Periods."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Would Never Invest in Anything Without Having Any Idea What the Expected Return Is. For Instance, I Would Not Walk Into a Bank And Say "I'll Take One Certificate of Deposit, Please" WIthout Asking What Rate They Are Offering."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


    Rob Bennett

  • "The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Over. Rob Bennett Has Won.The Technical Evidence Supporting This Assertion Is Rock Solid."




    John Walter Russell,
    Owner of the Early Retirement Planning Insights Site
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on August 3, 2003.]

  • "I Am Afraid that the Emperor SWR [for "Safe Withdrawal Rate"] Has No Clothes."





    A Poster at the Early Retirement Forum
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on October 8, 2003.]

  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "Dear Rob -- I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September. Since Then, I've Read Archives From Many Discussion Boards and Websites, and I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "I Think Rob Bennett Did Provide An Important Contribution in Terms of Describing a Way for P/E10 to Guide Asset Allocation for Long-Term Conservative Investors. I Also Think He Was Right on the Issue of Safe Withdrawal Rates."


    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum After His Own Search of the Literature Turned Up Not a Single Such Study

  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Your Work Is at Odds with the Ethos of the Board -- Here the Theme is John Bogle's Philosophy, Which Eschews Market Timing. This Board Came Into Existence to ESCAPE One Individual, the Very Individual With Whom You Have Openly Aligned Yourself."




    A Lindaurhead (to Researcher Wade Pfau)

  • "The Problem With Long-Term Market Timing Is That It Takes Too Long to Find Out If You Are Right or Wrong."






    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Why Is It Such an Odious Violation of the Tenets of Bogleheadism to Explore Whether Someone Who Has Enough Patience Might Be Able to Benefit from the Transitory Nature of Speculative Returns (the Idea That the P/E Ratio Eventually Ends Up Where It Started)?"




    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Let Me Explain Why I Posted About This Here. Valuation-Informed Indexing Has Had Critics for Years. But Until Norbert Did It In 2008, Nobody Seemed to Have Provided a Serious Investigation of It. I Couldn't Understand Why. That Bothered Me."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "If You Really Don't Like Market Timing in Any and All Forms, You May Not See Any Point in an Empirical Investigation. You View Me as One of a Long Line of Hucksters Trying to Sell You Some Snake Oil. I Don't Want to Be Such a Person."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, in an E-Mail to Rob

  • "I Definitely Need to Cite You as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, As I Have Not Found Anyone Else Who Can Lay Claim to That. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation, As Far As I Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "I Tested a Wide Variety of Assumptions About Asset Allocation, Valuation-Based Decision Rules, Whether the Period Is 10, 20, 30 or 40 Years, and Lump-Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging To Show That the Results Are Quite Robust to Changes In Any of These Assumptions."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!"




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau
    (Wade Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton.)
    (The Buy-and-Hold Mafia Threatened to Get Wade Fired From His Job When He Reported His Findings.)

  • "I Wrote Up the Programs to Test Your Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Against Buy-and-Hold and I Am Quite Excited. You Say in the RobCast That VII Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time. I Am Getting Results That Support This."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Never Underestimate the Power of a Dominant Academic Idea to Choke Off Competing Ideas, and Never Underestimate the Unwillingness of Academics to Change Their Views in the Face of Evidence. They Have Decades of Their Research and Academic Standing to Defend."




    Jeremy Grantham

  • "There's So Much That's False and Nutty
    in Modern Investing Practice."






    Warren Buffett

  • "Following Conventional Wisdom Has Led a Generation of Investors Down the Road to Ruin."






    Steve Hanke

  • "It Is Sad That the Idea That Price Doesn't Matter...Should Ever Have Been Seriously Considered".






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "The Conventional Wisdom of Modern Investing Is Largely Myth and Urban Legend."





    Rob Arnott, Former Editor of
    Fianncial Analysts Journal

  • "Economics Is a Dog's Breakfast of Theoretical Ideas and Alleged Causal Relationships That Are At All Times Unproven and In Dispute."





    Terence Corcoran, Editor of National Post

  • "Since They Did Not Diagnose the Disease, There Is Little Popular Confidence That They Know the Cure. What If Economics Is, Actually, At the Same Level as Medicine Was When Doctors Still Believed in the Application of Leeches?"




    Gideon Rachman, Financial Times

  • "One of the Most Remarkable Errors
    in the History of Economics."



    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller
    (Referring to the Logical Leap from the Finding That Short-Term Price Changes Are Unpredictable to the Conclusion That the Market Sets Prices Properly)

  • "Everything Has Fallen Apart."






    Peter Bernstein, Author of Against the Gods
    (Referring to Old Views About How Markets Work)

  • "We Wonder Why Funds and Banks, Full of the Best and Brightest, Have Made Such a Mess of Things. Part of the Reason Is That We Have Taught Economic Nonsense to Two Generations of Students."




    John Mauldin, Thoughts From the Frontline

  • "Perhaps Most Scandalously, the Theory [Behind Buy-and-Hold] Remained Received Wisdom Long After Empirical and Theoretical Arguments Had Demolished It Within the Academic Community."




    John Authers, Financial Times

  • "I Love the Humans Dearly (the Title of the Book I Am Writing Is Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life) But They Can Be a Trial at Times. Hey! Helping the Humans Learn What It Takes to Invest Effectively Is Not All That Different From Being Married!



    Rob Bennett

  • "We Are Going to See Hearts Melt Following the Next Crash. I Will Be Working Side-By-Side With All of My Many Buy-and-Hold Friends to Rebuild Our Broken Economy."





    Rob Bennett

  • "Wow, I Did Not Realize You Had Achieved This Much Success and Had Many Devoted Believers/Followers. That’s Great, Then Ignore the Opposition. It Is Great to Have Opposition: That Means You Are Doing Something Right."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Do NOT Believe I Know It All. I Believe That Shiller Discovered Something Very Important and It Appalls Me That More People Are Not Exploring the Implications of His Findings. My Aim Is To Launch a National Debate."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Can See How Many Readers Would Be Put Off by the Somewhat Sensational/Scandalist Tone and Would Not Persevere to Read, Thinking You Are Losing Your Mind."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I LOVE Everything About Buy-and-Hold Other Than the Failure to Encourage Investors to Take Price Into Consideration When Setting Their Stock Allocations. That's a Mistake That Was Made Because Shiller’s Research Was Not Available at the Time The Strategy Was Being Developed."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up In My Classrooms and in My Students' Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade)."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Can Confirm Wade Pfau's Experience. Whenever I Send My Papers to the Financial Analysts Journal or Similar Traditional Journals, I Get Rejected."





    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "As a Fan of Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, I Know That Progress Can Be Frustratingly Slow and What Is Typically Needed Is Either a Crisis or the Ascent of a New Generation of Scientists Who Did Not Build Their Careers on the Old Models and Theories."




    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "We Trace the Deeper Roots [of the Financial Crisis] to the Economics' Profession's Insistence on Constructing Models That, By Design, Disregard the Key Elements Driving Outcomes in Real World Markets."




    Knowledge@Wharton

  • "Rob Gets Himself So Worked Up Over What Someone Else Is Doing With Their Own Money and Not Bothering Rob in the Least. As Long As They Aren't Knocking on Your Basement Door, What Do You Care? They Are Happy and Content. Leave Well Enough Alone and Focus on Your Own Account."


    Dab, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Been on Forum Since the BBS Days and I Think Rob is Special. He Could Be an Internet Meme If He Put Some Effort Into It. Someday, He Will Realize That the Only Thing He's Good At Is Being an Epic Loser. He Just Needs to Embrace That Idea and Run With It. Watch Out, LOLCats, Here Comes Pathetic Guy!"


    Wabmaster, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "Your Lies Are Not Even in the Realm of the Possible, Much Less Actually Credible, Much Less Actually True."






    Drip Guy, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I'm Your Friend. I Am Not a Boil on Your Ass."






    Rob Bennett, In a Response Comment
    to One of the Greaney Goons

  • "You Guys [the Greaney Goons] Are the Same Jokers Who Have Done This Before, Sparring with Rob Over Nonsensical Issues On This Site and Others, Leveling Personal Attacks, and You Don't Even Use Real Names! Rob Is Entitled to His Opinion, But the Fact That You Challenge Every Jot and Tittle of What He Says Makes It Clear You Have An Unholy Agenda. Please Take It Elsehwere."

    Kevin Mercadante,
    Owner of the Out of Your Rut Site

  • "Rob, Take This As Friendly Advice. You're a Smart and Articulate Guy and You Could Be Making Valuable Contributions to This Discussion. I've Dealt with the Mentally Ill Before and I've Found That They Sometimes Can Be Reasonable If Gently Redirected."



    Goon Poster

  • "Always Remember Others May Hate You, But Those Who Hate You Don't Win Unless You Hate Them, and Then You Destroy Yourself."





    Richard Nixon

  • "I’m a Numbers Guy. And I Believe I Understand Rob’s Thesis, that Future Returns, Over the Next Decade, Have a Tight Inverse Correlation to the PE10 for the Starting Point. Remember, Correlation Doesn’t Need to be 100%, Only That There’s a Bell Curve of Potential Outcomes that Shift Meaningfully Based on the Input."


    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "What a Difference a Threat to Get the Father of Two Small Children Fired From His Job Has on an Investing Discussion, Eh? Long Live Buy-and-Hold! It’s Science! With a Marketing Twist!"




    Rob, Referring to the Wade Pfau Matter

  • "I Respect Rob and His Analysis. He's Bright, Energetic and Passionate. [The Goon Stuff] Is Really Nonsense. I Enjoy a Thought-Provoking Conversation With People I Respect."





    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "The Fact that Shiller is a Proponent of the Approach Takes it from a Fringe View to Mainstream, in my Opinion."






    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "I Have had Academic Researchers Tell Me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to do Honest Research Once Again. I Have had Investment Advisors Tell me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to Give Honest Investing Advice Again."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Let’s Call a Spade a Spade, Shall We? Wade Pfau Stole Your Research and Put His Name on it, Throwing You Just a Tiny Crumb of Acknowledgement to Ward Off a Lawsuit. He’s Profiting Handsomely By His Theft, Leading a Charmed Life, Widely Published, Widely Respected. While Rob Bennett Continues to Toil in Total Obscurity. It’s So Incredibly Unfair, I Think If It Happened to Me, It Could Actually Drive Me Insane."

    One of the Greaney Goons

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“Intellectual Work Is 20 Percent of the Work I Have Done Over the Past 10 Years. The Hard Issues Are Emotional Issues.”

October 24, 2012 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to the Goon Central board:

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently put to the Goon Central board:
it’s just that not enough folks have yet been introduced to your insanity profound insights in order to create a tipping point which will make the Hocomania Wave unstoppable!  Yes, it’s a Tipping Point thing.

EVERYONE (including you, Yip!) knows that GRQ is garbage. That’s close to universal.

Virtually no one knew that Buy-and-Hold was GRQ garbage in 1974, when A Random Walk Down Wall Street was published.

We are today living through the transition period from believing as a society that Buy-and-Hold was the first research-based strategy (a perfectly reasonable belief in its day) to understanding that human knowledge was lacking re one critical question in 1974 (that long-term timing always works and in fact is required for any investor hoping to have a realistic hope of long-term investing success) to believing as a society that Buy-and-Hold was rooted in a mistaken understanding of how the market works and that Valuation-Informed Indexing (Buy-and-Hold with the unfortunate GRQ element removed) is the first true research-based strategy. The hold-up is that millions have been done great financial harm by the mistaken belief and saying out loud what we now know causes those people to experience a great deal of emotional pain. Most of us humans have elected to hold back from saying anything, hoping that things will work themselves out somehow. A few of the braver souls (Wade Pfau is in this category, as are Bogle and Bernsteinzz) drop veiled hints. Dropping veiled hints makes sense in that it offers a means to get the truth out without getting your head knocked off. BUT IT DOESN”T GET THE JOB DONE. People have been dropping veiled hints for 30 years and there are still people pushing Buy-and-Hold today, even after the onset of a freakin’ economic crisis. The Rob Bennett take is that we must go BEYOND veiled hints to the Valley of Death where we do the wild thing of reporting the SWR (and lots of other important numbers, to be sure) accurately and honestly. Imagine!

There is not one soul alive who is hurt by us doing this. Even The Stock-Selling Industry is far better off if we do the wild thing. You’d be surprised how much people cut back on stock purchases in a Great Depression! The question is — How do we get from Point A (economic crisis) to Point B (the place where we all want to be in our hearts, where the risk of stock investing is reduced by 70 percent)? That is indeed a Tipping Point question. People want to be able to make a buck telling the truth about stock investing. They don’t want to have people making death threats against them or threatening to get them fired from their jobs. We need to have enough people telling the truth that the idiots (this means you, Yip!) who are making death threats are the ones who feel social pressure, not the good guys trying to help us all. Wade would never have stopped doing honestzzz research if Old Saint Jack had had Lindauer banned from the Bogleheads Forum when Mel first threatened Wade. It was Bogle’s silence that caused Wade to feel pressured to flip to the Goon side. Bogle needs to be made to feel that he cannot get away with associating with Mel Lindauer or those who post in “defense” of him anymore. And of course everyone else needs to feel that way too.

It is not an intellectual problem we face. Intellectual work is 20 percent of the work I have done over the past 10 years. The hard issues are emotional issues. We don’t need more insights, we need more COURAGE. People develop confidence in speaking up when they see others speaking up and being rewarded for it. We need to start rewarding those putting forward research-based strategies and putting the heat on those who pump out GRQ garbage.

Once we hit the tipping point, we have 30 years of insights to mine together. Think where the electronics industry would be if the makers of Pong had had the power back in 1974 to stop all advances in the field because it made them feel bad for people to learn that their product was not the last word in electronic advances? That’s where we are in the investing field. We have seen powerful investing insight after powerful investing insight for 30 years now. But few benefit from the insights because we are all afraid of what the Buy-and-Holders will do to us if we give voice to our sincere beliefs. Once there are enough of us sticking together that the Buy-and-Holders can no longer intimidate us, that comes to an end and we move from economic crisis to the greatest period of economic growth ever experienced in our history.

I cannot wait! (And the full truth is that even you Goons will be glad we made the change once we get over The Big Black Mountain of legal battles and prison sentences and all that sort of thing.)

Rob

Filed Under: Investor Psychology Tagged With: investment theory, investor emotions

Retired at 48: “I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post Saying I Was ‘the Best Since Hocus Challenged Us to Think'”

October 15, 2012 by Rob

I’ve been sending out e-mails containing links to my article on The Wade Pfau Matter. While I was going through old e-mails to get names to whom to send some of the e-mails, I came across the name of a poster named “Retired at 48.” Retired at 48 was a super-popular poster who was banned at the Bogleheads forum and then harassed at the Morningstar forum because he put up posts that caused many people to question Buy-and-Hold dogmatism. I exchanged several e-mails with him some time back about our experiences trying to help our fellow community members learn about stock investing in the face of the brutal attack posts of the Lindaurheads.

I wanted to report on the words of one of Retired at 48’s e-mails to me here. I place great value on the “People Are Talking” section of this site because it tells the story that the Goons don’t want people to know — that there are lots of good and smart people who have grave doubts about Buy-and-Hold and who respect and admire me for having the guts to speak up in the face of the Goon brutality. Retired at 48 put forward some words I want to include in that section of the site because they do a good job of summing up the purpose of the work I do at the various boards and blogs. Here are his words:

Hi Rob.

Whew.  I didn’t realize the extent of the harrassment.  I need some more time to fully read and digest what you forwarded.

I take it I was coming while you were departing.  Yes, it became more and more apparent that the Bogleheads were not that interested in investment theory…but rather a dogmatic type adherence to a set of investment principals.

But you may not be aware that certain members and moderators are forming a business there, selling (in their words) for $295 portfolio reviews based on a four index fund, buy and hold, forever, model.  So a big conflict of interest exists if one provides alternate ways to invest.  And the head of that business sure made an aggressive personal attack against me on my posts, especially a post entitled “200-Day Moving Average Market Timing.”

I’m debating with myself on the extent of my involvement on the M* Diehard forum.

BTW I would occasionally get a response post saying I was “the best since hocus challenged us to think.”  So I had heard your name often.

I’ll E-Mail you as I digest more of your input.  And thanks, for it may influence my future direction on the forums.

Bob…retired at 48, aka R48

It made me feel good to know that there were people telling Retired at 48 that my posts challenged them to think. That’s my goal. I have often noted that I am one of the flawed humans and that thus it is possible that I am wrong about what I say about investing. I argue that, even if that’s so, I should be permitted to offer my thoughts because there is zero chance that the expression of those thoughts can do any harm. If I am right, permitting me to express my thoughts is a huge plus for everyone. If I am wrong, I will obviously be exposed by the Buy-and-Holders and the experience of having the Buy-and-Hold ideas publicly challenged and then reaffirmed will help more people to see the merit in those ideas. So permitting honest posting is a win/win/win.

I’ll add Bob’s words to the “People Are Talking” section of the site with the posting of this blog entry. I thank him for his kindness in letting me know what several of his fellow community members said of my work.

One final thought along these lines is worth noting. Academic Researcher Wade Pfau learned about Valuation-Informed Indexing by reading my posts at the Bogleheads Forum (it was called “Vanguard Diehards” in those days). If Wade’s research someone wins a Nobel Prize in Economics, I hope people will remember that we would not all have that amazing research available to us today if not for the decision of the Morningstar site administrators to refuse Mel Lindauer’s demands for a ban on honest posting for the first 20 months of his Campaign of Terror against that board community. The community was wonderful. It was the Buy-and-Hold dogmatics that brought the ugliness to the forum.

Filed Under: Intimidation of VII Advocates Tagged With: people are talking, retired at 48

Academic Researcher Silenced by Threats to Get Him Fired From His Job After Reporting on Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies — Teaser Version

August 5, 2012 by Rob

All industries would like to be able to persuade the people who buy their product or service that it is worth buying at any possible price. The Stock-Selling Industry is the only industry that has ever pulled off this act of marketing magic. Millions of investors today believe that it is not necessary to consider price when setting their stock allocations, that it is not possible to successfully time the market.

There is now 30 years of academic research showing that the claim that it is not possible to time the market is false. There really is a wealth of research showing that short-term timing (changing your stock allocation because of a guess at to how stocks will perform over the next year or two) does not work. There is zero research showing that long-term timing (changing your stock allocation in response to big valuation shifts with an understanding that you may not see a benefit for doing so for as long as 10 years) doesn’t work. To the contrary, there is now a mountain of research showing that long-term market timing ALWAYS works. There has never been one time in 140 years (that’s as far back as we have records) when long-term timing did not produce far higher returns at greatly reduced risk.

This article exposes the cover-up. It shows how the academic researchers in this field are pressured to perform only research that helps the industry big shots and to refrain from doing research that would help millions to invest more effectively when publishing such research would undermine the industry’s most cherished marketing slogans (the phrase “timing never works” has been repeated so many times that millions of investors assume that there MUST be research supporting the claim).

The public policy implications are huge. In ordinary circumstances, stock-market prices are self-regulating. When prices get high, the long-term value proposition of owning stocks drops. That should cause investors to sell and the sales should bring prices back to fair-value levels. The relentless promotion of Buy-and-Hold strategies made the market dysfunctional. Stock were overpriced by $12 trillion in 2000. Prices always return to fair-value levels over the course of about 10 years. So we knew in 2000 that consumers were going to lose about $12 trillion in buying power by the end of the first decade of the 21st Century. There’s your economic crisis!

Wade Pfau hold a Ph.D. from Princeton. He is an associate professor at the Graduate Institute for Policy Studies. He learned of my work developing the Valuation-Informed Indexing investing strategy and asked to pick my brain for the purpose of developing research that would confirm or deny my claims. He found that everything I said checked out. He was met with attacks on his integrity by prominent Buy-and-Holders and by indifference by Peer Review committees before getting his research published by a respectable but not stellar journal. When he sought a correction from the authors of a retirement study that got the numbers wrong because it failed to include a valuations adjustment, a group of Buy-and-Hold Goons threatened to send defamatory e-mails to his employer with the aim of getting him fired from his job.

Wade feared for his career. It was not only that he knew that the Goons were capable of following through on their threats (he has seen them do so in other cases). It was also that he knew that few or none of the “leaders” in this field would speak up for him if they did. These Goons have been smearing my reputation for 10 years now because I was the person who discovered the errors in the retirement studies. I have been banned from participation at 15 discussion boards and blogs at the insistence of Buy-and-Hold dogmatics. Numerous big names have failed for 10 years to speak up about the smear campaign, including: (1) John Bogle; (2) William Bernstein; (3) Larry Swedroe; (4) Rick Ferri; (5) Scott Burns; and numerous others.

Wade has announced that he will not be publishing further research showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing over Buy-and-Hold because it is too “controversial” a topic. He says now that he still believes that the Buy-and-Hold retirement studies get the numbers wrong but that he does not see any need for corrections as “that isn’t how research works” in this field.

The full version of this article contains much more background and detail than this teaser version. Please view it here.

Set forth below are 10 comments Wade advanced during our 16 months of e-mail correspondence. The links are to blog posts that report on the e-mails containing the comments.

1) “What you see in the top part of the graph for each year is the amount of wealth accumulated after 30 years for someone following Buy-and-Hold against someone following Valuation-Informed Indexing….Valuation-Informed Indexing provides more wealth for 102 of the 110 rolling 30-year periods, while Buy-and-Hold did better in 8 of the periods.”

2) “I will take steps in my final paper to test a wide variety of assumptions about asset allocation, valuation-based decision rules, whether the period is 10, 20, 30, or 40 years, lump-sum vs. dollar-cost averaging, and so on, and to show that the results are quite robust to changes in any of these assumptions.”

3) “The maximum drawdown from market timing is much less. That is how far the portfolio drops from past highs to current lows. The Buy-and-Holder once experienced a 60.96% drop, whereas the worst drop for market timing was 24.16%.”

4) “On a risk-adjusted basis, market-timing strategies provide comparable returns as a 100 percent stocks Buy-and-Hold strategy but with substantially less risk. Meanwhile, market timing provides comparable risks and the same average asset allocation as a 50/50 fixed allocation strategy, but with much higher returns.”

5)  “I have been toying with the idea of sending the paper to the Journal of Finance, which is the most prestigious journal in academic finance.”

6) Valuation-Informed Indexing is much less risky by pretty much any standard I consider.  I must wonder… did I make a mistake somewhere?  Why haven’t academics already published research about this?” 

7) ) “The traditional approach to retirement planning (as described on pages 10 and 11 of The Bogleheads’ Guide to Retirement Planning, for example) is counterproductive and possibly damaging.”

8) “I think I should stay publicly quiet for a while, as I really don’t want anyone sending messages about any topics to officials at my university.”

9)  I don’t want them [the Goons] working behind the scenes to derail me.”

10) “I did warn the editor of the Journal of Financial Planning that they may receive some ‘hate mail‘ after I mentioned your name in the safe savings rate paper.”

Wade Pfau’s research paper showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies over Buy-and-Hold strategies is here.

My e-mail address is: hocusreports@Verizon.net. My telephone number is: 540-751-0685. Every advance ever achieved in this world was achieved by a decision on the part of one of the humans to stick his or her neck out. Please help us all out if you are in a position to do so!

Addendum #1: After Kevin at the Invest It Wisely blog posted a link to this article at his site, Wade wrote him and asked that he remove it. I’ve posted Kevin’s words to me and my words in response to him at this blog entry.

Addendum #2: The Big Picture blog posted an article titled “Buy-and-Hold is Dead (and Never Worked in the First Place)”. Barry Ritholtz, the owner of the blog, followed two days later with a link to my article titled Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work.

Addendum #3: Other blogs that have linked to this article include Juggling Dynamite, Washington’s Blog, Jesse’s Cafe Americain (the link was in the “Matters for Reflection” section), ZeroHedge and Financial Times: Alphaville.

Addendum #4: Business Week Columnist Vivek Wadwha tweeted a link to this article to his 32,000 followers.

Addendum #5: Law Lecturer and Integrity in Public Contracts Blogger Albert Sanchez Graells tweeted a link to this article. He told me in an e-mail that in his assessment “the situation seems well below any professional and academic acceptable standards.” I said in my response that, while this is certainly so in an objective sense, there are exceptional circumstances that in fairness also need to be taken into consideration in this particular case.

Addendum #6: Former Financial Analysts Journal Editor Rob Arnott copied Vanguard Founder Jack Bogle on an e-mail response he sent to me stating: “I’ve had similar experiences to those you describe. My work has often triggered overt hostility from guardians of the status quo. I’ve also had difficulties getting some of my more controversial articles published. And the journals that published some of my more controversial papers got hate mail.” Rob told me: “We part company on how to deal with this challenge. You seem to be stuck in a victim mindset. Characterizing one’s adversaries as Goons is also unhelpful to your cause.” I argued in a response e-mail to Rob (I also copied Jack Bogle) that: “The illustrations you offer of the problem of Buy-and-Hold dogmatism are shocking. I know from my discussions with financial planners and bloggers that many others have had similar experiences. This must stop. We are living through a public tragedy of epic proportions.” I also shared with Rob (and Jack) my view that the Goons are suffering intense emotional pain and that we all should be doing all we can to help them. Rob said in his reply e-mail that: “Your ideas [about Valuation-Informed Indexing] are sound.” He offered me his best wishes. Jack did not respond to any of these e-mails.

Addendum #7: University of San Diego Law Professor Ted Sichelman said: “Unfortunately, many academics can become quite strident when their views are challenged, which is why I was counseled not to tread on treacherous ground prior to getting tenure, Like most other fields, academia is often subject to self-serving bias that obliterates ethical bounds.”

Addendum #8: Jing Chen, an Assistant Professor at the University of Northern British Columbia, wrote: “It is natural that powerful people will do what they can to protect their interest. It is the norm in the academic world and in the broader world. I am grateful that you write about it.”

Addendum #9: Carol Osler, Program Director for the Lemberg Masters in International Economics and Finance at the Brandeis International Business School, wrote: “I certainly have seen the academic profession in action squelching unfashionable ideas and have often been on the wrong side of it…. Kuhn shows how most pathbreaking scientific ideas are rejected at first, usually for decades.”

Addendum #10: University of Siena Economics Professor Robert Reno wrote: “I don’t like too much the conspiracy idea. For what it may count, I am not pressured by anyone in my research.”

Addendum #11: Professor Jacob Goldenberg wrote: “Threats like this (if indeed it happened) are unjustified.”

Addendum #12: 25-Year CPA Lyn Graham wrote: “This sort of intimidation is not acceptable. The cigarette and pharmaceutical industries funded research supporting their products by funding it. But this is big money supporting outcomes, not dissuading others.”

Addendum #13: Director of the Center for Health Law, Policy and Practice Scott Burris wrote: “The fact that aggressive and short-term market timing was unproductive did not mean that there were never times that it would be wealth-maximizing to get out of the market.”

Addendum #14: Marcelle Chauvet, a Professor in the Department of Economics at the University of California at Riverside, wrote: “Why would your job be jeopardized by such a sensible claim?”

Addendum #15: Economics Professor Valeriy Zakamulin wrote: “We cannot assume the existence of predictability just because there are no studies that fully reject it.”

Addendum #16: I gave a five-minute presentation (“How to Become the Most Hated Blogger on the Internet”) on the Wade Pfau story and related matters to the 2013 Financial Bloggers Conference (FinCon13). The Joe Taxpayer blog offered some kind comments on the presentation and on me as a person. And the Reformed Broker blog pointed its readers to the long Joe Taxpayer thread discussing the ideas raised in the presentation.

Filed Under: Bennett/Pfau Research

Academic Researcher Silenced by Threats to Get Him Fired From His Job After Showing Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies

August 5, 2012 by Rob

Brett Arends wrote in the Wall Street Journal: “For years, the investment industry has tried to scare clients into staying fully invested in the stock market at all times, no matter how high stocks go…. It’s hooey.… They’re leaving out more than half the story…. Anyone who followed the numbers would have avoided the disaster of the 1929 crash, the 1970s or the past lost decade on Wall Street…. I wonder how many stayed fulled invested because their brokers wanred them ‘you can’t time the market’.”

The public policy implications are huge. If investors knew how dangerous it is to follow Buy-and-Hold strategies, they would buy stocks in the same way they buy everything else — buying more (that is, going with high stock allocations) when prices/valuations are low and buying less (going with low stock allocations) when prices/valuations are high. If most investors followed this smart, simple, and safe approach (it’s called “Valuation-Informed Indexing”), market prices would be self-correcting. Excessive valuations would cause investors to sell their stocks, which would bring prices back to reasonable levels.

We would never again see bull markets or bear markets or the economic crises that inevitably follow the loss of consumer buying power associated with bear markets. Each of the four economic crises that we have seen since 1870 (that’s as far back as we have good records of stock prices) followed an out-of-control bull market caused by the popularity of the Buy-and-Hold “idea” that price doesn’t matter when buying stocks. The bull market of the late 1990s insured that our economy would suffer a loss of roughly $12 trillion of buying power in the first decade of the 21st Century as stock prices worked their way back to fair-value levels, making today’s economic crisis inevitable. That’s why Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller was able to predict the economic crisis in his book Irrational Exuberance, published in March 2000.

The question this article addresses itself to is — How do they pull it off?

It’s not hard to understand why financial planners would want to encourage their clients to invest heavily in stocks — most of the money made in this field is made through the selling of stocks and all industries want their customers to believe that the product they are selling is a good buy at any possible price. But how has Wall Street managed to convince millions of middle-class people to throw away large portions of their retirement money through a misguided belief in this obvious fiction?

Buy-and-Hold advocates argue that the academic research on stock investing supports their claims that market timing doesn’t work or isn’t required for long-term success. Academic researchers are independent actors. How have the researchers been persuaded to keep quiet about what the entire historical record so clearly shows to be the case, that long-term market timing (changing your stock allocation in response to big swings in valuations with the understanding that you may not see benefits for doing so for as long as 10 years) always provides investors with much higher long-term returns at greatly reduced risk?

It’s done through the application of brutal intimidation tactics aimed at those who stray from support for the company line. Other researchers with thoughts of telling the truth about stock investing see what has happened to their peers, learn the lesson that the industry needs them to learn for their Buy-and-Hold marketing slogans to remain effective, and self-censor their research.

Wade Pfau holds a Ph.D. from Princeton. He is an Associate Professor of Economics at the National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies in Tokyo, Japan.

I am the creator and lead promoter of the Valuation-Informed Indexing strategy. Mine is the only web site that offers investors in-depth guidance on the practical implications of Shiller’s research. I am also the person who discovered the errors in the safe withdrawal rate studies that have put millions of middle-class investors at grave risk of suffering failed retirements.

My discovery of these errors made me for a time the most hated poster on the internet. I have been subjected to hundreds of death threats, some placed in internet forums and heartily cheered on by the Buy-and-Hold investors who frequent them, and others sent by e-mail. I have been banned from at least 15 forums and blogs. I have even been banned from forums I have created! I have in several cases received apologies from the site administrators who banned me. I have in several cases been banned by people who told me they see great value in my work. All the same, I have been banned at every major board and blog at which I have tried to help middle-class investors learn about the 30 years of research showing that Buy-and-Hold strategies are dangerous for long-term investors.

Many people like me. Many people admire my work. Many people wish it could be different. But it is a rare individual who is willing to go up against the intense hostility that Buy-and-Holders show to those who report honestly and accurately what the academic research of the past 30 years tells us about how stock investing works in the real world. And it is a rare investing expert who is willing to take on the industry machine used today to enforce Buy-and-Hold dogmatism and punish steadfast dissenters with career death.

Wade learned of my work through my posts at the Bogleheads Forum before I was banned for the “crime” for pointing out the errors in the retirement planning studies (there is a widespread consensus today that the studies are in error but there is also a widespread consensus that the studies should not be corrected and that there should be no discussion of the cause of the errors – the use of methodologies rooted in the Buy-and-Hold model for understanding how stock investing works). He was intrigued by my ideas about safe withdrawal rates and about stock investing in general and sought an ongoing relationship in which he could pick my brain for the purpose of developing research on a multitude of important investing topics. I enthusiastically agreed to the idea.

The research product that followed is worthy of a Nobel prize. Wade’s work shows that: “Valuation-Informed Indexing provides more wealth for 102 of the 110 rolling 30-year periods, while Buy-and-Hold did better in 8 of the periods.” In short: ““Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!”

The data-based case for long-term market timing [Valuation-Informed Indexers agree with Buy-and-Holders that short-term market timing is a mistake] is so strong that Wade expressed amazement that no earlier researcher had published the same findings. He told me: “Valuation-Informed Indexing is much less risky by pretty much any standard I consider.  I must wonder… did I make a mistake somewhere?  Why haven’t academics already published research about this?” 

This article documents why no academic researcher prior to Wade Pfau reported such findings in the three decades since publication of Shiller’s revolutionary work compelled of any honest researcher examination of the questions explored in Wade’s research and why Wade abandoned his research on Valuation-Informed Indexing and changed his position on safe withdrawal rates (Wade at one time requested the authors of one of the discredited retirement studies to correct their study before it caused more failed retirements but now says that I am wrong to insist on such corrections because “this isn’t how research works.”) The Stock-Selling Industry exerts enormous pressures on researchers who report honestly what the data clearly reveals. None other than Shiller has been able to maintain his or her independence in the face of these pressures and even Shiller has refrained from providing investors the asset allocation guidance they need to invest successfully for the long term.

In short, the investing advice field is today 100 percent corrupt. No one is telling the full truth because, once someone tells the full truth, the 30-year cover-up of Shiller’s findings will be exposed and the industry will be hit with lawsuits calling for the recovery of trillions of dollars in losses.

Wade resisted the intimidation tactics (to some extent, never fully) for a time before giving up the fight. Today, he toes the company line. He knows that Valuation-Informed Indexing is far superior to Buy-and-Hold and that the discredited retirement studies should be corrected. His research shows these things. He told me that be believes these things in our e-mail correspondence. But he has elected to keep his mouth shut about such things when speaking in public, presumably waiting for the next price crash (stock prices are likely within the next few years to fall 65 percent from where they stand today, according to Shiller’s research) to increase public support for consideration of the powerful investing ideas we explored together and thereby to make it safe for him to talk openly about how stock investing really works.

Wade Pfau is not the only academic researcher in this field afraid to explore the realities of stock investing in his research. Rob Arnott once asked for a show of hands on two questions at a convention of academic researchers. He first asked how many of the researchers still believed in the Efficient Market Hypothesis (the academic construct that supports the Buy-and-Hold idea that it is not necessary for investors to consider price when buying stocks because the market always sets the price properly). Only a tiny number of hands went up. He then asked how many of the researchers would be basing the research they would perform when they got back to their offices on an assumption that the Efficient Market Hypothesis is valid. Nearly every hand in the room shot up.

Rajiv Sethie, Professor of Economics at Columbia University, said of my work: “Rob Bennett makes the claim that market timing based on aggregate P/E ratios can be a far more effective strategy than passive investing over long horizons (ten years or more). I am not in a position to evaluate this claim empirically but it is consistent with Shiller’s analysis and I can see how it could be true.” It would not take long to verify my claims empirically. Wade did so in a matter of weeks. The entire 140 years of academic research supports those claims and there has never been any data that supported the Buy-and-Hold claim that long-term timing is not necessary (Buy-and-Hold is rooted in a mistaken interpretation of data, not in any data itself). Yet in the two years since Sethie wrote those words, neither Sethie nor any of the many academic researchers who read his blog have found themselves in a position in which they felt comfortable evaluating my claims empirically.

Even Shiller has been intimidated. Shiller has said in interviews that he has never told us all he knows about stock investing because he would be branded “unprofessional” if he were to do so. Shiller’s book was a widely reviewed bestseller. But the careful reader noted an amazing deficiency of the book — never does Shiller offer any practical advice as to what investors should do with their money given his “revolutionary” (Shiller’s word) findings.

Nor does Shiller feel comfortable making the case that it was the promotion of Buy-and-Hold strategies that served as the primary cause of the economic crisis. He predicted the crises in his book, saying: “If over some interval in the first decade or so of the 21st Century the U.S. stock market is going to follow an uneven course down, as well it might — back, let us say, to its levels in the mid-1990s or even lower — then individuals, foundations, college endowments and other beneficiaries of the market are going to find themselves poorer, in the aggregate by trillions of dollars. The real losses could be comparable to the total destruction of all the schools in the country, or all the farms in the country, or possibly even all the homes in the country.” But Shiller has refrained from putting forward clear and firm and strong denunciations of Buy-and-Hold as the primary cause of the economic crisis causing so much human suffering today.

The  acts of intimidation that caused Wade to betray his research findings were advanced in public discussion boards and blogs by a group of internet Goons led by John Greaney (the author of one of the discredited retirement studies) and Mel Lindauer (co-author of the book The Bogleheads Guide to Investing). The issue of the use of intimidation tactics being employed by Buy-and-Holders to silence those seeking to post honestly on the implications of Shiller’s research has been widely discussed over the past 10 years at scores of boards and blogs. Thousands of community members have over the course of the ten years of discussions expressed a desire that honest posting be permitted on safe withdrawal rates and on many other critically important investment-related topics, to no avail.

Big name experts who participate at these boards and blogs but who have failed to speak up in opposition to the tactics of the internet Goons who threatened to get Wade fired from his job include: (1) John Bogle (I have sent Bogle two e-mails seeking his help with the abusive posting at the Bogleheads Forum): (2) William Bernstein; (3) Larry Swedroe; (4) Rick Ferri; and (5) Scott Burns. Large sites that have failed to take effective action against the abusive posting tactics of Buy-and-Holders include: (1) The Bogleheads Forum; (2) Morningstar.com; (3) Motley Fool; (4) The Early Retirement Forum; (5) the Oblivious Investor blog; (6) The Get Rich Slowly blog; and (7) the Monevator blog.

I have alterted the police department in Purcellville, VA, to the problem of the death threats and to the possibility that the Goon Squads led by Lindauer and Greaney may next resort to SWAT-ting, an intimidation tactic that has been used against a number of bloggers in recent days. I have also contacted a special internet crimes department of the Virginia state government. Finally, I described the matter in some depth in an e-mail to my congressman, Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA).

Numerous big-name experts have spoken of my work in the most laudatory terms imaginable (please see the “People Are Talking” section of the home page of my blog; it runs down the left side of the page). None of the people who have made laudatory comments have dared to “cross” the Lindauer and Greaney Goon Squads, presumably our of fear of the threats of violence or career damage that would be visited on them if they were to do so.

Another big factor is the sustained popularity of Buy-and-Hold strategies. I write three weekly columns on Valuation-Informed Indexing at three different web sites and it is a rare event for these columns to generate comments from the readers of these sites. In contrast, my work in the saving area was so popular that it made my early retirement board at the Motley Fool site the most successful board in that’s site’s history — my board was so successful that Motley Fool designed an online retirement course around it and hired me as a paid instructor. Tom Gardner, co-founder of the Motley Fool site, wrote one of the blurbs that appears on the back cover of my book Passion Saving: The Path to Plentiful Free Time and Soul-Satisfying Work. He wrote: “The elegant simplicity of his ideas warms the heart and startles the brain.” I am today banned from the Motley Fool site.

Wade described to me his concern re the “hostile environment” that Buy-and-Holders create for those seeking to post honestly on the implications of Shiller’s research in his first e-mail to me. He proceeded to do his breakthrough research despite these fears, but never did he post at a board or blog re his findings without worries re what the Buy-and-Holders might do to him if he were to be blunt in his statements about the dangers of the strategy they favor.

Many community members showed great interest in his findings that Valuation-Informed Indexing is superior to Buy-and-Hold. One poster at the Bogleheads Forum said that Wade’s research showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing over Buy-and-Hold “refutes a central tenet of the Boglehead investing philosophy. It’s a big deal.” But Lindauer accused Wade of “data-mining.” Wade responded: “I take the issue of data-mining very seriously, and, with all due respect, any data-mining that I am doing is in favor of Buy-and-Hold, not in favor of market timing.” Lindauer did not apologize and made clear that his harassment would continue for so long as Wade continued to report on research findings showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing. Other community members kept quiet (Lindauer had a long history of posting abusively when the board community met at Morningstar.com and was never disciplined).

Wade thought enough of his research showing the superiorty of Valuation-Informed Indexing to entertain hopes of having it published in the Journal of Finance, the most prestiguous journal in the field. He was greatly discouraged when it was given a “desk reject” by a less influential journal. The rejection letter stated: “We did not find the paper’s incremental contribution to the academic finance literature, assuming the analysis proved to be correct, rose to the level that we are seeking.” Another peer review report stated of Wade’s work: “The elephant-in-the-room question is — What is the ultimate criterion for one to conclude with confidence that one strategy is better than the other?”

Eventually, his paper was published by a journal that Wade characterized as “decent.” These defeats prompted his announcement in October 2011 that he would no longer do research on the “controversial” Valuation-Informed Indexing topic but would limit himself to examination of restirement planning topics.

Wade never expressed any doubt about the dangers of the conventional retirement studies. He said: “This is not the information that current and prospective retirees need for making their withdrawal rate decisions.” Even today, he acknowledges that the old retirement studies are obviously in error. The source of his friction with the Buy-and-Hold goons was on another point — Given that the studies get the retirement numbers wildly wrong, should they be corrected? The Goons feel that, once the Buy-and-Holders correct one error, their claims re scores of different investing topics will be widely challenged (Shiller’s research discredited the foundational assumption of the entire strategy).

There are so many retirements now in the process of failing that even the Buy-and-Holders have after ten years given up their effort to maintain that studies that do not contain valuation adjustments can accurately identify the safe withdrawal rate. But Buy-and-Hold advocates very much do not want to see corrections in the studies or any discussions of WHY the studies got the numbers wrong. Such discussions would bring to the forefront the question that strikes terror in the hearts of Buy-and-Hold advocates: Why do Buy-and-Holders continue to maintain that investors do not need to change their stock allocations in response to big price swings despite 140 years of return data showing otherwise?

Wade announced on April 27, 2011 that he had sent an e-mail to the authors of the Trinity retirement study urging that a correction be made (he did not reveal the precise text he used in his e-mail). One of the Goons wrote the following in a comment to the blog entry in which I announced Wade’s decision: “Rob –You likely think yourself quite clever for actually enlisting an apparently naive but scholarly dupe as your proxy to contact the Trinity authors about these supposed ‘errors’ (yet to be elucidated) that only you seem capable of seeing…. I think you will be surprised at how this apparently initially successful attempt will backfire on you.”

On April 29, 2011, Greaney and his Goons advanced threats to send defamatory e-mails to Wade’s employer and thereby “deny him tenure.” The discussion-board thread in which the threats were advanced is housed at the Goon Central board, owned by Greaney. I started the thread in which the threats appeared. My thread-starter was titled “Wade Pfau Contacts Trinity Authors.” It contained a link to the blog post at my site at which Wade agreed to contact the Trinity authors.

Rob Bennett: “There are many millions of people who have been hurt in very serious ways by the same analytical error that caused the Trinity authors to get the numbers so wildly wrong in their retirement study…. We should of course be grateful for the work they did. But we cannot ignore the harm that was done to millions of aspiring retirees by the mistakes they made. Ignoring that is going to down the road cause a political explosion that may well tear our society apart.”

Wade Pfau: “Okay, I took care of it. I was a little timid about contacting them, as I was publicly critical of their study in the past. But first I apologized to them for that. Then I explained my concerns about 4% for retirees since the mid-1990s. Valuations was a part of my list. I’ve even invited Prof. Walz to give a seminar at my university, as he is in Hong Kong during the spring term. This matter is settled.”

John Greaney (Greaney posts under the screen-name “Intercst”): “I hope Wade Pfau’s association with notorious Internet troll Rob Bennett doesn’t cost him tenure. ”

GW (one of the Greaney Goons): “The damage that it will do to Pfau is simply the amount of time and energy he diverts to dealing with Rob – unless he develops an extensive relationship with our wacko and someone alerts his fellow professionals to this. Then, his career could suffer because of a demonstrated lack of good judgment.”

Wade took the threats seriously. He told me in an e-mail dated May 1, 2011: “”I think I should stay publicly quiet for a while, as I really don’t want anyone sending messages about any topics to officials at my university.  They will not care about who is right or wrong, especially as they will not care about U.S. retirement planning issues anyway, but they just don’t like any topic of controversy or problems. Hopefully this stuff will blow over soon and those guys will forget about it and move on to the next thing before any further escalation occurs. But would you mind, at least for the next week or so, to not mention my name anymore on your blog, and to also completely ignore the “Wade Pfau Contacts Trinity Authors” thread at the Hocomania site.  I hope that thread can quickly move down the list into the archives.  At the same time, please do not delete it either, as that would surely be noticed by someone. By the way, please do not mention this publicly, but just to let you know, I haven’t heard back from any of the Trinity authors yet.”

Wade reported in an e-mail dated May 2, 2011, that his safe savings rate article had been published in the Journal of Financial Planning. He told me that he included a link to my Retirement Risk Evaluator calculator (which reports the safe withdrawal rate accurately) in a footnote. Wade observed: “It is a pity that you probably shouldn’t mention this for a while, or else those guys [the Greaney Goons] will send a bunch of nasty emails to the Journal of Financial Planning editors.” Wade said of the article: “Perhaps this approach can replace safe withdrawal rates, and since safe savings rates do incorporate valuations, as the revised published article makes clear, all is well.”

On May 16, 2011, Wade put a post to his blog endorsing the idea of permitting honest posting on safe withdrawal rates. He stated: ““Retirees now frequently base their retirement decisions on the portfolio success rates found in research such as the Trinity study. Studies such as those are fine for what they accomplish: they show how successful different withdrawal rate strategies were in the historical data. But it must be clear that this is not the information that current and prospective retirees need for making their withdrawal rate decisions.” I posted a comment to Wade’s blog expressing the view that: “This is the most important paragraph ever written about retirement planning, Wade.” I sent an e-mail to Wade that day applauding him for the post. He thanked me but said: “I don’t think I really said anything particularly new though.  It is the kind of thing you’ve been saying for years.”

Re the issue of whether the time was ripe for me to write about his study, he said: “Sure, it is okay to discuss the blog, paper, etc., in your blog now. But, perhaps, you do not need to emphasize my name so much, or even at all.  It is okay to just refer to it as “a new academic study” etc. I do not wish to antagonize the “Goons” too much, as I would like to reach a wider audience than them anyway, and I don’t want them working behind the scenes to derail me.” He added that: “I did warn the editor of the Journal of Financial Planning that they may receive some “hate mail” after I mentioned your name in the safe savings rate paper. Maybe it didn’t happen after all, but it won’t be a big problem even if it does happen now.”

Wade’s public position today is that there is no need for corrections of the discredited retirement studies. “That isn’t how research works,” according to the new Wade Pfau. He removed an article at his site at which he identifed me as the person who developed the Valuation-Informed Indexing strategy and reported that his research shows that Valuation-Informed Indexing beat Buy-and-Hold in 102 of 110 30-year rolling time-periods in the historical record. He also removed all comments that I had made to his blog. He put a post to his blog characterizing Greaney as the hero of the 10 years of discussions of the discredited retirement studies (Greaney has employed death threats and thousands of acts of defamation to intimidate board communities into not discussing the need for corrections).
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Wade has objected strongly to my reporting on our e-mail correspondence. This is so unethical,” he said. He says today that: “I do not have any fears about the Goons. The reality is that you are causing me 1000x more career damage than the Goons ever could have by filling Google with so much nonsense about me.” He explains his earlier expressions of concern re the Goons by saying: “I was just trying to explain politely to you that I’d rather have you quit writing about me, or at least stop using my name. I suppose that I figured the only way you might understand why is if I explained it in terms of your favorite conspiracy theories.”

I have set forth below statements by Wade Pfau made during my 16 months of e-mail correspondence with him, arranged into five types of comments. Each comment has a link to the blog entry at my site reporting on the e-mail that contained that comment. I have posted a separate article containing links to all of my reports on my correspondence with Wade.

A) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau’s Statements Showing Interest In and Confidence in Rob Bennett’s Work

1) “I do cite you and John Walter Russell in my paper as the earliest and strongest advocates of this approach [New School safe-withdrawal-rate research].

2) “Are you aware of Shiller offering asset allocation advice based on PE10? …. If you read Rob Bennett’s stuff carefully, I think he did provide an important contribution in terms of describing a way for PE10 to guide asset allocation for long-term conservative investors. I also think he was right on the issue of safe withdrawal rates.” — Posted at the Bogleheads Forum discussion board.

3) “I am also extremely grateful to Rob Bennett for motivating this topic and contributing his experience and encouragement.” — Written in Acknowledgments section of Wade’s breakthrough research paper.

4)”You deserve much of the credit as the whole idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing belongs to you.”

5) “I definitely need to cite some of your work as the founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, as I have not found anyone else who can lay claim to that.  Shiller pointed out the predictive power of PE10 but never discussed how to incorporate it into asset allocation, as far as I know.”

B) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau’s Statements on the Superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing Over Buy-and-Hold

1) “What you see in the top part of the graph for each year is the amount of wealth accumulated after 30 years for someone following Buy-and-Hold against someone following Valuation-Informed Indexing….Valuation-Informed Indexing provides more wealth for 102 of the 110 rolling 30-year periods, while Buy-and-Hold did better in 8 of the periods.”

2) “I will take steps in my final paper to test a wide variety of assumptions about asset allocation, valuation-based decision rules, whether the period is 10, 20, 30, or 40 years, lump-sum vs. dollar-cost averaging, and so on, and to show that the results are quite robust to changes in any of these assumptions.”

3)  “Any data mining that I am doing is in favor of buy-and-hold, not in favor of market timing.”

4) “The findings for “market timing” are so robust anyway, that it hardly matters how we do it.”

5) “The maximum drawdown from market timing is much less. That is how far the portfolio drops from past highs to current lows. The Buy-and-Holder once experienced a 60.96% drop, whereas the worst drop for market timing was 24.16%.”

6) “Market timing provides signficantly higher returns at a comparable level of risk.” 

7)  “The market timer enjoys a far less risky strategy.”

8) “On a risk-adjusted basis, market-timing strategies provide comparable returns as a 100 percent stocks Buy-and-Hold strategy but with substantially less risk. Meanwhile, market timing provides comparable risks and the same average asset allocation as a 50/50 fixed allocation strategy, but with much higher returns.”

9) “If everyone increased exposure after a market fall and vice versa, then this would dampen out the big swings in the market aggregates, and we might get shallower boom/bust cycles.”

10) ““‘I’m excited about this, as depending on what you have already done, I think I can design a study using the Shiller data to provide historical simulations of Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies against fixed Buy-and-Hold strategies and also lifecycle strategies (declining allocation to stocks as one ages).  If  Valuation-Informed Indexing consistently outperforms fixed and lifecycle strategies, then the proof is in the pudding so to speak.  Given how well valuations help to explain withdrawal rates, I think there is a lot of potential for this topic.”

11) “Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!”

12) “It makes complete sense to have an equity allocation that is in some way flexible. Having a completely inelastic demand for equities is a bit bonkers; no-one acts that way with life’s other important commodities.”

13)  “I wrote up the programs to test your Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies against Buy-and-Hold, and I must say that the results look very promising…. I am quite excited about the findings so far.  As you say in the podcast, Valuation-Informed Indexing should beat Buy-and-Hold about 90 percent of the time, and I am getting results that support this for various strategies.”

14) “I have been toying with the idea of sending the paper to the Journal of Finance, which is the most prestigious journal in academic finance.”

15) “Now that I am accounting for risk, I am even more amazed by how well Valuation-Informed Indexing works.”

16) You shouldn’t be too excited with great wealth accumulations if they happened due to unusually high valuations, and low wealth accumulations shouldn’t be as scary if valuations are also quite low.”

17)  “My idea is to show many different tables with results over the whole period for returns and risks.  Valuation-Informed Indexing always provides more returns for often less risk.”

18) “No matter what I try, Valuation-Informed Indexing will still perform better in 85-95% of cases for 30 years.”

19) “I have a new figure for showing this as well. And a nice figure showing the outperformance percentages across rolling periods of lengths between 1 and 40 years.  I think it is all quite persuasive.”

20) “You haven’t seen anything yet! This was just the secondary study.  I’m still working on the main one!”

C) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau’s Statements of Incredulity That He Was the First Academic Researcher to Examine the Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategy

1) ” I know that there is an extensive literature about the predictability of long-term stock returns dating back to Campbell and Shiller’s work in the mid-1990s.  I also know that there is an extensive literature about short-term market timing strategies….  But my question is about LONG-TERM market timing strategies. In other words, using market timing over periods of at least 10 years to obtain better returns than a Buy-and-Hold strategy. The literature seems slim.”

2) “Let me just explain a bit more why I posted about this here. Valuation-Informed Indexing has had critics for years, but until Norbert did it in 2008, nobody seemed to have provided a serious investigation of it. I just couldn’t understand why. And that bothered me.”

3) “Two papers by Fisher and Statman are still all I can find that provide evidence against long-term market timing.”

4)  “I’m so confused by why Fisher and Statman didn’t consider risk in their idiot switching tests.  Valuation-Informed Indexing is much less risky by pretty much any standard I consider.  I must wonder… did I make a mistake somewhere?  Why haven’t academics already published research about this?” 

D) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau’s Statements on the Dangers of the Conventional Retirement Planning Advice

1) “The traditional approach to retirement planning (as described on pages 10 and 11 of The Bogleheads’ Guide to Retirement Planning, for example) is counterproductive and possibly damaging.”

2) “Retirees now frequently base their retirement decisions on the portfolio success rates found in research such as the Trinity study…. This is not the information that current and prospective retirees need for making their withdrawal rate decisions.”

3) “This article provides favorable evidence based on the historical record for long-term conservative investors to obtain improved retirement planning outcomes (lower savings rates, higher withdrawal rates) using valuation-based asset allocation strategies.”

4) Wade sent me a link to an article in Business Week that was published more than eight years after my post pointing out the errors in the Old School retirement studies and which he characterized as “quite sympathetic to the point you were trying to make all along”.

5)  “Though I was only trying to do an Old School safe-withdrawal-rate study, all that I ended up doing was showing in a different way what you had been saying all along: the safe withdrawal rate changes with valuations.”

6) “Valuations are the driving factor. ”

7) “This is similar to your drunk driving analogy, which I agree with.” The discredited but uncorrected retirement studies find that in most circumstances a 4 percent withdrawal rate provides a huge cushion for the retiree using it. However, in each of the three cases in history when stocks reached insanely high price levels, retirements using a 4 percent withdrawal came within a whisker of failing. To say that this shows that a 4 percent withdrawal is “100 percent safe” (these words are used in the Greaney study) for a retirement beginning at a time of insanely high price levels is like saying that driving drunk is “100 percent safe” because 97 sober drivers drove their cars 20 miles without incident while 3 drunk drivers were paralyzed for life in car accidents but did not die. The fact that 4 percent only worked by a whisker in the cases in which valuations were high at the beginning of the retirement shows that a 4 percent withdrawal is high-risk at times of high valuations, not that it is “100 percent safe.”

8) ” Actually, this issue shouldn’t really even be all that controversial. It’s just common sense that the probabilities from the Trinity study shouldn’t be interpreted as forward-looking probabilities for new retirees.”

9) Naturally, I am finding that Valuation-Informed Indexing can allow you to reach a wealth target with a lower savings rate, use a higher withdrawal rate, and also have a lower “safe” savings rate, than a fixed allocation.

E) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau’s Statements Showing His Concerns that Continuing to Report Honestly on the Investing Realities in the Face of the  “Hostile Environment” for Doing So Created by Buy-and-Holders Would Harm His Career

1) “I was trying to pay tribute to your accomplishments in what I knew would be a hostile environment.”

2) “Valuations and long-term investors is a somewhat controversial topic.” Wade posted these words to his blog in October 2011 as his explanation of why he was abandoning his plan of doing further research on the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies over Buy-and-Hold strategies. He had told me in earlier days that “You ain’t see nothing yet!” when I praised his breakthrough research in this area. After his flip to the dark side, Wade removed the page containing this blog entry from his site.

3) “We have both read and met to discuss your paper. Unfortunately, we did not find the paper’s incremental contribution to the academic finance literature, assuming the analysis proved to be correct, rose to the level that we are seeking for papers in the JFR. Thus sending the paper to a reviewer would be inefficient.” These words are from an academic journal’s “desk reject” of Wade’s breakthrough research.

4) ) ““ I was discouraged when I first received the “desk reject” by the editors of the same journal that published the Fisher and Statman paper. I realized that I didn’t have a chance with one of the top journals.”

5)  “I think I should stay publicly quiet for a while, as I really don’t want anyone sending messages about any topics to officials at my university.”

6)  I don’t want them [the Goons] working behind the scenes to derail me.”

7) “I did warn the editor of the Journal of Financial Planning that they may receive some ‘hate mail‘ after I mentioned your name in the safe savings rate paper.”

For background on the ten years of internet discussions that aided my development of the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept, please take a look at this article. For an in-depth examination of the argument that the promotion of Buy-and-Hold strategies caused the economic crisis, please take a look at this article. The Stock-Return Predictor, a calculator that performs a regression analysis of the historical return data to reveal to investors the most likely 10-year annualized return for stocks starting from any possible P/E10 level, is here. Wade Pfau’s research showing the superiorty of Valuation-Informed Indexing srtategies over Buy-and-Hold strategies is here. Links to all articles at this site relating to The Wade Pfau Story are collected here.

Filed Under: Bennett/Pfau Research

Corruption in the Investing Advice Field — The Wade Pfau Story

August 5, 2012 by Rob

This article should be read in conjunction with the article titled Academic Researcher Silenced by Threats to Get Him Fired From His Job After Showing Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies. Both articles explore the same material — the 140 blog entries at the A Rich Life blog reporting on the breakthrough findings of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau showing that for the entire 140 years of stock market history for which we have available to us stock-return data Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies have provided far higher returns than Buy-and-Hold strategies at greatly reduced risk. The other article tells the story of Wade showing his excitement in discovering how stock investing really works, his disillusionment in learning how publishing accurate research would limit his career prospects for so long as Buy-and-Holders retain the power to block honest discussion of the realities and his decision to flip to the dark side after internet Goons threatened to send defamatory e-mails to his employer as his “punishment” for acknowledging the need for retirement studies that get the numbers millions of us have used to plan our retirements wildly wrong to be corrected. This article collects in one place links to all of my blog entries reporting on Wade’s research and on my e-mail correspondence with him, supplemented by my commentary on them.

1) “I Cite You and John Walter Russell as the Earliest Advocates of [New School SWR Research”

I was thrilled to see Wade’s name on a comment to my blog.

I learned about the errors in the Old School safe-withdrawal-rate studies by reading John Bogle’s book, which explains that Reversion to the Mean is an “Iron Law” of stock investing. I read the book in either the Spring of 1995 or the Spring of 1996. I am not a numbers guy. So I never tried on my own to determine the true safe withdrawal rate. Once I knew that I had to go with a much lower stock allocation at times of sky-high valuations than I went with at times of moderate valuations or low valuations, I knew what I needed to know to put together my own Retire Early plan. It was only when I posted what Bogle’s book said about the studies that the Goons demanded that those of us interested in the issue determine the accurate SWR numbers that I became interested in getting that specific. John Walter Russell jumped it to help and spent the last eight years of his life doing amazing research on every aspect of the SWR issue and, in his later years, on a good number of non-SWR issues as well. The Goon response to John’s research, which was well-received by all non-Goon community members, was that it didn’t count because it was not peer-reviewed. Wade’s interest in the subject gave us the opportunity to obtain peer-reviewed research. So I viewed his expression of interest as very good news for the entire community.

I was especially glad to see Wade give John Walter Russell the credit for the incredible contributions he made in the eight years before his death. John was our most loved poster. But he was viciously smeared by the Goons on an almost daily basis. The Goons even smeared him when they learned about his death in October 2009. I told Wade in later communications with him that his work merits a Nobel prize. I of course really do believe that. But I believe that about John’s work as well. The fair thing would be if John and Wade received a joint Nobel prize, John for being the trailblazer and Wade for being the first researcher with the credentials needed to go through the peer review process to bring John’s breakthrough findings to a wider community of investors.

2) Wade Pfau, Associate Professor of Economics at the National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies: Valuation-Informed Indexing Works

This blog entry reports on research that Wade posted to his site showing that Valuation-Informed Indexing has provided higher returns than Buy-and-Hold at less risk for the entire 140 years for which we now have stock-return data. As the title of Wade’s blog entry put it — Valuation-Informed Indexing works!

This put the Buy-and-Hold Goons in a tough spot. They have for 10 years now tried to justify their Ban on Honest Posting on grounds that the academic research supports Buy-and-Hold and that thus it would be “dangerous” (this is Mel Lindauer’s word) to permit honest discussion of what the research says. I have argued that permitting honest posting would be a win/win/win/win/win. If Buy-and-Hold really does work, honest discussion will bring that out and we will all benefit from learning that reality. On the other hand, if it turns out that Buy-and-Hold never works in the long run, it of course is better that we learn that before the economic crisis turns into the Second Great Depression.

Wade removed this blog entry from his site in later days, at the demand of the Goons. No one has ever found any mistakes in his research or any problems with his findings.

I liked it that Wade mentioned in the article that I was banned from the Bogleheads Forum. Too many in this field shy away from noting the pressures that have been applied by Buy-and-Holders on those posting honestly re the last 30 years of academic research. This is an important part of the story. If it were not for these pressures, I believe that a lot of people a lot smarter than I would have pointed out the dangers of Buy-and-Hold and developed the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept years before I came on the scene. I got there first because everyone else was hiding under the bed-covers!

Wade was a big fan of my RobCast #137, “Nine Valuation-Informed Indexing Portfolio-Allocation Strategies.” John Walter Russell was also a big fan of that one. The most common question I get from visitors to my site is about how to implement the VII concept. I try to provide materials to help people implement the concept. But my personal belief is that the most important element of this story is the political angle, the Ban on Honest Posting. If it were not for the Ban on Honest Posting, we would have hundreds of sites exploring the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept and offering thoughts about implementation strategies. All investors would be ten times better off hearing from hundreds of smart people rather than just from me. I have never felt comfortable with the idea of setting myself up as some sort of Grand Poobah and telling people: “The Oracle says that all investors should be going with a 30 percent stock allocation today.” Yucko! Let’s hear what some other people have to say on this topic!

3) Bogleheads Forum Examines Research Showing Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold in 102 of 110 30-Year Periods

This is amazing stuff.

Wade studies investing for a living. He has a Ph.D. from Princeton University. He read my posts at the Vanguard Diehards board and was intrigued with my claim that long-term timing always works. He didn’t reject the idea out of hand (like a Goon!) and he didn’t just take the word of some fellow whose biggest claim to expertise in this field is that he figured out how to get stuff posted to the internet. He checked the research. What a novel idea!

Guess what he discovered? “The literature seems slim.” Ultimately, he concluded that there is only one study that examines the question and he found a lot of holes in that study. So really there is nothing. This is the issue on which people should be focused. The question of whether long-term timing always works or not is critical. Why aren’t there hundreds of peer-reviewed studies of this question?

The short answer is that index funds only became available in 1976 and Shiller only published his research showing that valuations affect long-term returns in 1981. Long-term timing was a practical impossibility before there were index funds (VII does NOT work for those picking individual stocks). So, in the days when Buy-and-Hold was being developed, there was only one form of timing — short-term timing. When the research showed that short-term timing never works, lots of smart people jumped to the conclusion that timing in general never works. These people were not evil and these people were not stupid. They just didn’t know to check on what happens with long-term timing for the perfectly understandable reason that the only form of timing they had ever heard about was short-term timing. Now long-term timing is a practical possibility for all investors. So the focus of most investment research should be how best to practice long-term timing. But first we have to address the problem of the feelings of wounded pride being felt by the Buy-and-Holders because of the mistake they made. Humans!

Anyway, I find it pretty darn amazing that a fellow with a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton had never stopped to wonder whether long-term timing works or not until he read my work. I don’t mean that as a dig at Wade. He is obviously in lots of very good company. I just point this out to help people understand why the first 10 years of our discussions have been so contentious. I rarely experience much difficulty explaining the realities of stock investing to ordinary investors. They come to the subject without preconceptions and are generally eager to learn. It’s a very different story with them there “experts!” The experts have read all the books and know what all the books say on every possible subject. Trying to explain to them why just about everything the books say is wrong is a tough job! The experts do not want to hear this. Let me restate that more accurately and clearly. The experts very, very, very, very much do not want to hear this!

Wade was open to learning new things. That’s why we became such fast friends. Three cheers for Wade Pfau!

Here’s how Drip Guy (one of the Goons) responded to learning that I was right all along (Drip Guy’s words are directed at Wade): “Since your own work is overtly at odds with the ethos of the board — here, the theme is John Bogle’s philosophy, which eschews market timing, I myself will no longer obliquely support it by giving you a whetstone on which to sharpen your knife. You must certainly know that this very board came into existence in order to ESCAPE the lunatic behaviors of one individual — the very individual with which you have publicly and openly aligned yourself, and who you are openly quoting and sourcing in your column and are forming your intended paper around.  While there is much merit in open discussion of competing, differing, and varied approaches, as to you, sir, I personally will have no more of it here on this forum, given the poison well from which you are now openly drawing your own water.” When Wade flipped, Drip Guy praised him to no end. The dumb guy got smart. Hoo boy!

The blog entry also quotes one of the Normals: “As a relatively new person on this forum, I have no idea what you are talking about. There is someone, not Wade, whose “lunatic” behavior lead to the existence of this board? I can understand avoiding the classic abusive internet behavior of toxic contributors. However, that is a far cry from having no more of open discussion of competing approaches. From what little I have seen on this forum and Wade’s site, I don’t see anything harmful. Again, I am new here, but I hope people can post ideas that do not conform to other’s ideas of what Bogle would say. After all, this is finance, not religion. Bogle is a smart guy who has done a tremendous service to American investors, including the majority who do not do business with Vanguard. Does that mean no one is allowed to disagree with him on any topic?” Um — I think it would be fair to say after ten years of this craziness that the correct answer to that one is “Precisely so!” For Bogle’s benefit and for the benefit of all the middle-class investors who have found value in his investing ideas, we need to change that. By the close of business today, if at all possible.

4) Site Administrator Alex Frakt Doubles Down on Defamation/Intimidation Strategy at Bogleheads Forum

After ten years of this stuff, I am not easily shocked. But this one shocked me all the same.

Wade’s research was obviously breakthrough stuff. So one of the posters at Bogleheads Forum put up a post saying that the leaders of the board owed me an apology for having banned me after I brought these matters to the attention of the Buy-and-Holders nine years earlier.  Site Administrator Alex Frakt responds by saying: ““We’ve had to remove a couple of comments and posts from this thread regarding Rob Bennett. I have been in contact with the OP offline and he is now fully aware of hocus’ modus operandi, so there is no further need for these posts. Let’s continue to keep this forum a hocus-free zone. P.S. For anyone confused by this message, I’ll suggest googling “hocomania”.”

Buy-and-Hold is based on research and data. It is science. It is logical. It is rational. So they say.

5) My Second E-Mail to John Bogle: “I Haven’t Been Banned at Any New Boards or Blogs for Six Months!”

Frakt’s e-mail prompted me to write a second e-mail to John Bogle asking for him to help us all out re this matter. I urged The Big Guy to “take a sad song and make it better.” I received no response.

6) Wade Pfau: “This Paper…Suggests that the Traditional Approach to Retirement Planning Is Counterproductive and Possibly Damaging”

This blog entry reported on words that Wade posted to my blog. He told me that: “It is hard to keep track of all your articles, but I do especially like the one with six criticisms of my research.” He is referring to this one. I like that one too. The point, of course, is that, when Wade showed that Valuation-Informed Indexing has provided far superior results (over Buy-and-Hold) for 140 years now, he was understating the case.

Wade then offered a strange comment: “I lost some enthusiasm about the topic when I found out I was only rehashing the stock formula investing plans of the 1940s and 1950s.” No one should think of Valuation-Informed Indexing as something that is 100 percent new. There is nothing 100 percent new in the field of stock investing. People have been electing to follow either common-sense strategies or Get Rich Quick strategies since the first market opened for business. Just as Buy-and-Hold is just a new term for the Get Rich Quick mindset, Valuation-Informed Indexing is just a new term for the common-sense mindset. Benjamin Graham was advocating in the 1930s that investors go with a 25 percent stock allocation at times of low prices, a 50 percent stock allocation at times of moderate prices, and a 75 percent stock allocation at times of low prices. That is obviously Valuation-Informed Indexing. I discussed Graham’s 75/50/25 allocation in my RobCast on VII allocation strategies. So Wade knew about this at the time he listened to that RobCast.

What makes Buy-and-Hold something new is not that it is a Get Rich Quick strategy. What makes it new is that it is a Get Rich Quick strategy that purports to be backed by academic research. It is this claim that made Buy-and-Hold more dangerous than any earlier Get Rich Quick approach. Many investors do not check the “studies” themselves. They hear “experts” (expert salesmen!) say that there is research backing Buy-and-Hold and they assume there must be something to it. The widely promoted claim that there is academic research supporting the idea that investors do not need to consider price when buying stocks gave that “idea” a power to ruin our economy that no Get Rich Quick scheme that came before it ever possessed.

The good news is that, as Buy-and-Hold falls, Valuation-Informed Indexing rises. And Valuation-Informed Indexers can legitimately claim that their strategy is supported by the research. So, just as Buy-and-Hold caused more investors to invest ineffectively than any strategy that ever came before it, Valuation-Informed Indexing has the potential of helping more investors to invest effectively than any strategy that ever came before it. The claim that academic research supports a strategy is a powerful claim. Thus far, the power of that claim has been used only to wipe out millions of middle-class retirement accounts. But there is nothing that stops us from putting the power of the academic research to good purposes in days to come by opening the internet up to honest and accurate and realistic reports of what the research says.

Wade makes a powerful statement: “The traditional approach to retirement planning (as described on pages 10 and 11 of The Bogleheads’ Guide to Retirement Planning, for example) is counterproductive and possibly damaging.” That’s bold and clear and clean and properly provocative. I like! But he goes lame and tame and sad and vague with his statement that: “This paper doesn’t rely on valuations, at least in an explicit sense, because I am trying to make it as uncontroversial as possible.” Why this urge to be so darn non-controversial? If today’s conventional retirement planning today is “counterproductive and possibly damaging,” I think it would be fair to say that we are doing lots of things terribly, terribly wrong. We need to find out what they are quick and then make changes. We are far more likely to do so once we get over our fear of offending the Buy-and-Holders with our “controversial” reports on what the academic research really says.

That’s my take, in any event. Maybe it’s a journalist thing.

7) “The News Is So Good That People Just Cannot Bear to Let It In”

Of all the things that bug me about the Goons (that’s a long list!), the thing that bugs me the most is that their employment of so much ugliness has distracted people from the real message of the first ten years of our discussions — Stock investing will be a whole big bunch more fun in the future than it has ever been in the past. Our message is good news piled on top of good news piled on top of good news. It takes a true Goon to find the cloud in such a mass of silver linings. Mel Lindauer said that it would be “dangerous” to permit honest posting on safe withdrawal rates at the Vanguard Diehards board. He’s right! It would be dangerous in the way it would be dangerous to the profits of the medical industry to find a cure for cancer. It would be dangerous in the way that it would be dangerous to the weapons manufacturers to bring about peace in the Middle East. It would be dangerous in the way that it would be dangerous to the cosmetics companies to find the Fountain of Youth.

The academic research, honestly and accurately reported, is dangerous to those promoting Get Rich Quick strategies. That’s the idea. We want to bury that smelly garbage 30 feet in the ground, where it can do no further harm to humans and other living things. In their early days, the Buy-and-Holders were with us. That’s what they once wanted too. When the Buy-and-Holders find their way back to where they once belonged, all will see that our story is a 100 percent positive story. We know things about stock investing today that people have wanted to learn about stock investing for centuries. We shouldn’t be arguing about whether to spread the word or not. We should be racing each other to see who can get get the good news out the fastest.

Going back to the morning of May 13, 2002, the only negative to our story has been the behavior of the Buy-and-Holders seeking to “defend” the idea of not correcting retirement studies that get all the numbers wildly wrong.

8) VII #28 — Wade Pfau’s Research Understates the Superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing Over Buy-and-Hold

I discussed the article referred to in this blog entry in comments up above.

9) “Had Shiller Published His Research 20 Years Earlier, There Never Would Have Been Any Buy-and-Hold”

Wade set things up in a scientific way in the words of his that I quoted in this blog entry. He said: “My null hypothesis is that valuations-based investing is not useful, and now I am seeking to determine if I can find sufficient evidence to reject this null hypothesis with sufficient confidence.” The trick that Buy-and-Holders play again and again and again is to make the argument that even 140 years of historical data is not enough to prove that Valuation-Informed Indexing will always offer far greater returns at greatly reduced risk. What can one say in response to such a claim? Of course there is a chance that the entire historical record available to us today is not sufficient to tell us anything with 100 percent confidence. It is not possible to say with 100 percent confidence that the moon is not made of green cheese.

The proper way to examine the question is to compare the mountain of evidence supporting Valuation-Informed Indexing with the lack of even a sliver supporting Buy-and-Hold. There has never been a single study showing that long-term timing does not work. Every time the question has been examined, the finding has been that long-term timing always works. So it is every bit as true to say that “timing always works” as it is to say (as the Buy-and-Holders do) that “timing never works.”

When questions are framed in reasonable ways, looking at the historical data is a big plus. When you decide on what you want the data to say before looking at it and then twist things however they need to be twisted to fool investors into thinking that the data supports a Get Rich Quick approach, you are engaged in an exercise in marketing, not an exercise in scientific exploration. Valuation-Informed Indexing is what Buy-and-Hold would be today had the Buy-and-Holders remained true to their original vision.

10) “Wall Street Has Polluted the World with Self-Serving Theories. The Entire Debate is Debased and Devalued”

I have nothing to say re this one.

11) Wade Pfau: “The Market Timer Enjoys a Far Less Risky Strategy”

The primary reason to become a Valuation-Informed Indexer is not to obtain the far higher returns it offers. The primary reason is to dramatically lower the risk of stock investing. It is a rare middle-class investor who can handle the level of risk that applies to those following Buy-and-Hold strategies in the long run.

12) Wade Pfau: “Any Data Mining I Am Doing Favors Buy-and-Hold… The Findings for ‘Market Timing’ Are So Robust That it Hardly Matters How We Do It”

People need to look at the historical stock-return data for themselves. Allowing the people who sell stocks for a living to tell us what it says is like asking a used-car dealer “Is this really a good car for me?” To hear the Buy-and-Holders tell it, you would think that, even when market timing works, it is hard to pull off. Wade looked at the data. He reported the story the data tells accurately. The reality is that “the findings for market timing are so robust that it hardly matters how we do it.” Tell your friends.

13) “Everyone in This Field Should Be Urging the Authors of the Studies to Make Corrections”

Wade is smart. He shows in the comments of his that I quote in this post that there is such a thing as being too smart for your own good.

He says: “We will not know if there will be an increased failure rate [for retirements] for another 20-30 years.”

So what?

What does that have to do with anything?

There are some people who smoke three packs of cigarettes a day and don’t die of cancer. Does that justify telling people that smoking is “100 percent safe” when we all know perfectly well that it is not?

I say “no.”

We know that valuations affect long-term returns. So we know that there is no way on God’s green earth to identify the safe withdrawal rate without taking the effect of the valuation level that applies on the day the retirement begins into account.

So why continue this charade?

Integrity matters.

Such is my sincere take re this important matter, in any event.

I know, I know. Putting forward common-sense observations about stock investing became exceedingly “controversial” in the Buy-and-Hold Era.

14) Wade Pfau: “Perhaps the Trinity Study Was Not Meant to Be a Safe Withdrawal Rate Study” 

This is, as my youngest would put it, “sad.”

Perhaps the Trinity study was not meant to be a safe withdrawal rate study. That makes sense. That explains why thousands of financial planners and thousands of newspaper articles have referred to it as a safe withdrawal rate study. All of the pieces of the puzzle are finally beginning to snap into place.

It is this kind of statement that reveals the utter corruption of the investing advice field. If we cannot get credentialed experts to acknowledge that retirement studies that get the numbers wildly wrong need to be promptly corrected, we need to consider finding new employment for everybody who works in this field today and starting over with fresh faces and fresh, innocent hearts and fresh, curious minds.

No?

I wrote many thousands of words in response to Wade’s many questions of me. I was happy to do it. He’s a smart fellow who became a good friend and I am being 100 percent sincere when I say that his research merits a Nobel prize. But his argument that there is no need to correct retirement studies that get the numbers wildly wrong makes me want to wretch. I have little patience for statements that show that the people putting them forward are not even making an effort to do the right thing.

A failed retirement is a serious life setback.

I ain’t got no Ph.D. in Economics. Please keep that in mind when assessing the value of any words that I put forward relating to safe withdrawal rates.

I ain’t got no Ph.D. in Economics. You’d have to put me in school for a lot of years to teach me to say something as dumb as what Wade is quoted as saying in this blog entry.

I don’t find this particular joke even a tiny bit funny.

15) “Thousands of Experts Who Heard People Calling the Number Generated By the Study the ‘Safe Withdrawal Rate’ Never Corrected the Record — Why?”

I expand on the point made immediately above in the words I put to this blog entry. I explain why no expert in this field is permitted to employ common sense when giving investment advice. The root problem is something called “The Efficient Market Theory.” The blog entry states: “The error at the core of the Efficient Market Theory is fundamental. It has influenced every aspect of investment analysis for decades now. It needs to be corrected, not rationalized.”

If Wade were to acknowledge this obvious truth, he would thereby render himself unemployable in this field.

If that sounds overstated to you, please continue reading until you get to the part where the Goons threaten to get Wade fired from his job for the terrible “crime” of acknowledging that retirement studies that get the numbers wildly wrong need to be corrected and, instead of calling the police, he asks the Goons precisely what sort of language they need to hear from him so that be can earn their enthusiastic support for his “research.”

16) “I Think No One Really Knows the Precise Scope That the Trinity Authors Had in Mind…. You Don’t Need to Convince the Trinity Authors to Fix Any Errors”

This one is Orwellian. I don’t want to say more than that. It’s too creepy. People shouldn’t have to deal with this sort of thing as the price of wanting to help their friends learn how to invest effectively.

17) “We Cannot Ignore the Harm Done to Millions by the Mistakes Made by the Authors of the Trinity Study. Doing So Will Cause a Political Explosion.”

The most important takeaway not only from this e-mail but from the first ten years of our internet discussions re the realities of stock investing is contained in this sentence: “We all need to become more HUMBLE re the extent of our understanding of how stock investing works.” Please say a prayer that we find our way before we all come to feel the shame of causing even more human misery.

18) Associate Professor Wade Pfau Has Contacted Trinity Study Authors re Analytical Errors in Their Safe Withdrawal Rate Study

This is my favorite! This is the “Wade is a Hero!” blog entry. Whenever I feel down about one of the characters in our play, I try to think back to a time when that person did amazing things to restore my belief in human nature. I remember the day I discovered Greaney’s site. I was so excited that someone had written an entire site about early retirement (this was 1998 — there were no other web sites on early retirement at the time) that I talked about it to my wife through my entire ride home from work (I copied the entire site on the day I discovered it and placed the results in one of my 30 binders of materials on how to achieve financial freedom early in life). When I get discouraged about Wade’s recent decisions, I think back to the day he worked up the guts to contact the Trinity authors. It may not sound like much. But I had been seeking help with this matter for nine years and no one before Wade had been willing to step up to the plate. Nothing he does in future days will take away his moment of heroism. This happened, it is in the books, those particular books are closed, and that is that. Thanks, man!

Please note Drip Guy’s response. He says: “Rob — You likely think yourself quite clever for actually enlisting an apparently naive but scholarly dupe as your proxy to contact the Trinity authors about these supposed ‘errors’ (yet to be elucidated) that only you seem capable of seeing; leading YOU and you alone to come up with all kinds of self-invented grandiose names for what are merely your own delusions, misunderstandings, and confabulations…. I think you will be surprised at how this apparently initially successful attempt will backfire on you, as do all your Wile E. Coyote-like schemes, because while Wade has certainly shown he is mostly mild mannered in demeanor, I think he is doggedly determined in being accurate. He is very much, in that respect, the Anti-Hocus. I think you will shortly be adding him to Scott Burns, Michael Kitces and others who have innocently engaged you, only to discover your true nature after the fact.”

Yikes!

I was surprised that you were able to pull it off, Drip Guy. I give you that one, my long-time abusive-posting friend.

19) New Wade Pfau Study Shatters Market Timing Myths, Shows That Long-Term Timing ALWAYS Provides Higher Returns at Reduced RIsk

This was the biggie. I think it’s fair to say that the history books of tomorrow will record April 29, 2011, the day we learned about Wade’s breakthrough research, as the day a new form of capitalism was born in the United States. My Goon friends will complain that that’s overstatement, another case of Rob being Rob. Let them complain! We’ve got the data on our side. We’ve got the research on our side. We’ve got the future on our side. We’ve got the Wadester on our side (and the truth is, we will always have the Wadester on our side, regardless of anything to the contrary he says in future days in response to pressures imposed on him by our Goon friends).

A simple way to invest that provides returns so much greater than Buy-and-Hold that millions of middle-class people can stop worrying about whether they will be able to retire at 65 and instead begin planning their early retirements? Check!

A simple way to invest that reduces the risk of stock investing by 80 percent? Check!

A simple way to invest that brings bull and bear markets to an end, that makes stock price volatility a thing of the past, that makes economic crises of the type we are living through today a thing of the past too? Check!

That’s history-making stuff in the eyes of any reasonable person.

Take that, Goons!

I will always be humbled by Wade’s kind acknowledgment of the role I played in bringing this paradigm-shifing research to life: “I am also extremely grateful to Rob Bennett for motivating this topic and contributing his experience and encouragement.” I certainly never believed as a boy growing up in Northeast Philadelphia that there would come a day when my feeble efforts to do good in this crazy and mixed-up world of ours would be paying these kind of dividends. I often reread the following words just to be sure that I did not misunderstand them the first 100 times I saw them appear on my computer screen: “On a risk-adjusted basis, market-timing strategies provide comparable returns as a 100 percent stocks buy-and-hold strategy but with substantially less risk. Meanwhile, market timing provides comparable risks and the same average asset allocation as a 50/50 fixed allocation strategy, but with much higher returns.”

This couldn’t have happened without the economic crisis. Do you see how God sometimes permits bad things to happen for the purpose of ultimately achieving a greater good?

20) Researcher Wade Pfau Endorses Idea of Permitting Honest Posting on Safe Withdrawal Rates, Stresses Bogle’s Contribution

And the hits just keep on coming!

The Goons think of me as being anti-Bogle. Nothing could be farther from the truth, according to my way of seeing things. Bogle is as much of a hero to me as Pfau and Shiller and Russell. I learned about the errors in the Old School retirement studies by reading Bogle’s book. Bogle popularized indexing and there would of course be no Valuation-Informed Indexing had there not first been index funds in which to invest. And of course it was Bogle and the other Buy-and-Holders who pushed the idea that one’s investing strategies should be rooted in the academic research. When we reach a consensus that Buy-and-Hold needs to be buried 30 feet in the ground, where it can do no further harm to humans and other living things, it will be that principle that will have done the most to make the dream a reality.

The Wall Street Con Men have always been tempted to say whatever will help them make the sale. That should come as a surprise to no one. The humans who become investment advisors suffer from the same human weaknesses as the humans who become used-car salesmen. The trouble in the investing field has always been that most of us don’t know enough about the subject matter to see through the marketing mumbo jumbo. We would laugh at a car salesman who told us there was no need to take the price of a car he was pushing into consideration before signing on the dotted line. But when some fast-talking investing expert says that “timing never works,” we nod our heads and marvel at the years of education and experience it must have taken for him to acquire such “expertise.” Bogle and the other Buy-and-Holders brought an end to that with their focus on research and data. We now have available to us a means of checking out the claims of the expert salesmen. We now have a means of bringing some long-needed integrity to the investing advice field. It’s sad that Bogle and the other Buy-and-Holders have blocked our efforts for a time. In the end, though, they get a big share of the credit. This looking-at-the-research stuff was their idea.

When I announced my plans to direct some hard questions to Old Saint Jack at the next meeting of the Vanguard Diehards, I was told by a few community members there that I shouldn’t do so because Bogle is a nice, old man. That’s all the more reason to do it, in my eyes! I certainly agree that Bogle is a nice, old man. A nice, old man does not want to cause an economic crisis! A nice old man does not want to cause millions of failed retirements! A nice old man does not want to see a discussion board with his name on it ruined with nasty, abusive posting!

We all owe something to the nice, old man who goes by the name “Jack Bogle.” If we were in his shoes, we would want our friends to press us to overcome the temptation to cover up our mistakes, come clean, and get things moving in the right direction. I strongly believe that we should do for Bogle what we would want him to do for us were our positions reversed. I am 100 percent confident that we will be laughing over a beer with him in the not-too-distant future and wondering how there ever could have been a time when some of us thought that it was an okay idea to fail to correct the retirement studies that we had discovered get the numbers wildly wrong.

Bogle was attacked by Goons in his day. Fidelity once ran a full-page advertisement in the Wall Street Journal characterizing Bogle’s investing ideas as “Un-American.” I’m not the anti-Bogle. I’m The New Bogle. Valuation-Informed Indexing is the investment strategy Bogle would have advanced in the early 1970s if only Shiller had published his research 10 years sooner. The work we are doing today fulfills Bogle’s vision of a smart, simple and safe investing strategy that can improve the lives of millions of middle-class investors in highly significant ways. Bogle is NOT a LIndauerhead! That idea is an insult to Bogle and all his true followers.

21) Coach Potato Advocate on Wade Pfau’s VII Research: “At First Glance, I Find This Interesting”

This is important. We all know how hard it is to convince people of a different point of view once their minds are made up. We’ve seen that in the first ten years of our investing discussions. That said, we have seen two very encouraging signs.

One highly encouraging sign is the popularity of Buy-and-Hold. Yes, that has proven to be a disaster in the short run. But the real message is that most middle-class investors want to do the right thing, most middle-class investors want to follow research-backed strategies and to avoid Get Rich Quick b.s. (remember, Buy-and-Hold is marketed as a research-backed strategy). If researcher felt safe publishing honest and accurate research, we have every reason to believe that millions of middle-class investors would pay attention to the findings of that research. That’s huge.

It’s also encouraging in a twisted sort of way to consider how the Goons reacted when Pfau published his research showing that Valuation-Informed Indexing always provides far higher returns than Buy-and-Hold at greatly reduced risk. The Goons obviously saw this as a huge threat to their ability to maintain public confidence in Buy-and-Hold. Hey! — They should know, right? The comments of the poster cited in this blog entry show why the Goons are so worried. This fellow is a rock-solid Buy-and-Holder. He has resisted efforts to engage in reasoned dialog in the past. But look what he says when he is presented with a compelling data-based case that Buy-and-Hold can never work in the long run. He is not instantly convinced. It would not be realistic to expect that. But he indicates that Wade’s research opened his mind a bit. That’s all we need! Once we get minds opened enough to listen to the case, the benefits of Valuation-Informed Indexing are so compelling that we will win them over. Buy-and-Holders believe because they have placed their trust in “experts” who have told them that there really is data supporting this strategy. When they learn what the research really says, the power of the data-based argument flips. People who were taken in by Buy-and-Hold when it was not possible for them to gain access to genuine research can be persuaded of its dangers once the Social Taboo against reporting accurately what the data says is broken. I believe that we will see a breaking of the taboo with the next price crash. So things are looking up (because they are looking down!).

22) The Economist Magazine Endorses New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research

It is of course an important step forward that the Economist and numerous other big-media outlets are now warning investors that: ” a safe withdrawal rate is very dependent on the valuation of the stockmarket at the retirement date.” That said, there are three things missing from this report and from most of the other similar reports that appeared only after it became so obvious that we are going to see millions of failed retirements that the Buy-and-Holders felt it had become wise to disassociate themselves from the “research” that they were pushing with such relentless dogmatism only a few years back.

One, where are the thanks to all the people who stuck their necks out by reporting years ago on the errors in the Old School retirement studies? I don’t mean just me. Shouldn’t these articles be giving John Walter Russell credit for his breakthrough research? And how about the thousands of members of the Retire Early and Indexing discussion-board communities who expressed a desire that honest posting be permitted at our boards in the face of the most vicious smear campaigns ever advanced in the history of the internet? These people possess ten times the “expertise” possessed by the glorified salesmen who were saying for years that the Old School studies aren’t really wrong because they only provide a “rule of thumb” while failing to explain why discussions of analytically valid studies had to be banned in deference to the tender feelings of the “researchers” who got the numbers wildly wrong despite decades of academic research showing that valuations need to be taken into consideration to calculate the safe withdrawal rate accurately.

Two, where are the demands for corrections of the studies that we now all accept as being wildly in error? Millions of people will be suffering failed retirements because of our failure as a society to get these studies corrected for the ten years since the errors in them became public knowledge. Yet new people are exposed to the wrong retirement numbers every day when they enter terms like “safe withdrawal rate” into the Google search engine. A car that caused only thousands of deaths would be recalled. Yet we permit studies that are likely going to cause millions to suffer one of the worst life setbacks imaginable to remain uncorrected for 10 years. Huh?

Three, where are the links to studies and calculators that get the numbers right? Aspiring retirees need to know the accurate safe withdrawal rate. I published The Retirement Risk Evaluator a good number of years back.

Four, where are the analyses of why the old studies got the numbers so wildly wrong and remained uncorrected for such an insane amount of time after the errors were brought  to light? We all learn in kindergarten that the one good thing about making mistakes is that we can learn from them. Were the editors of the Economist absent that day? These studies have caused huge amounts of human misery. Why not turn that human misery into something good by examining how we got so far off track during the crazy bull years? The answer, of course, is that the Old School studies are rooted in the same belief in the Efficient Market Hypothesis that also caused all investing advice offered under the Buy-and-Hold Model to be dangerously off the mark. Examining why these studies got the numbers so wildly wrong is the first step to getting all sorts of mistakes made during the Buy-and-Hold Era corrected.

Five, why no discussion of the Campaign of Terror that is responsible for the ten-year delay in getting these studies corrected? People are embarrassed over the Campaign of Terror. We don’t like to talk about it. We are ashamed that we have let the Goons engage in such ugliness. You know what? Keeping quiet about this stuff plays into the Goons’ hands. Bullies get excited to see their intimidation tactics work. Humans have for centuries been enforcing social norms that make it impossible for the lowest among us to engage in the sorts of tactics we have seen employed by the Lindauerheads and the Greaney Goons. Why not start applying those social norms to Buy-and-Hiold advocates? I am confident that it would make a big difference. We have had thousands of community members express a desire that honest posting be permitted. Those people matter.

23) “I Am a Threat Only to the Buy-and-Holders”

It’s amazing that the site administrator at the Bogleheads Forum terms me a “threat” to the board community that meets there. I’m a threat? Buy-and-Hold is marketed as a research-based strategy. If you have research backing up your claims, the easy response to any challenge raised to your ideas is to present the research supporting them. If the Buy-and-Holders could do that, challenges raised by people like me would cause members of the board community to be reaffirmed in their belief in the strategy backed by the research as they saw the challenges beaten back.

I am not a threat to the community. My investing ideas are the future of that community. The community project is to learn about research-based strategies. Buy-and-Hold was once perceived to be a research-based strategy. But Shiller discredited the research once thought to suggest that there is no need to engage in long-term timing 30 years ago. Valuation-Informed Indexing is the research-based strategy of today and tomorrow. I am a threat to Buy-and-Hold. But I am no threat whatsoever to any community member who possesses a sincere desire to learn about what the research says works in stock investing for the long-term investor. The reason why I love Valuation-Informed Indexing so much is that it is the first true research-based strategy (the interpretation of the research that led many good and smart people to believe that Buy-and-Hold could work has been shown to have been mistaken).

One of the benefits of true research-based strategies is that they help the investors following them to overcome the most dangerous investor emotions. I think it would be fair to say that Buy-and-Holders are the most emotional of all investors. Why? The behavior of the Buy-and-Holders is itself strong evidence that this strategy is not what it purports to be.

In fairness to the community that meets at the Bogleheads Forum, many community members have expressed a desire that honest posting be permitted at the Bogleheads Forum, just as many community members expressed a desire that honest posting be permitted at the Vanguard Diehards board that came before it. Frakt speaks for a small number of big shots who are pushing books advocating Buy-and-Hold strategies. He does not speak for the community as a whole. In fact, the published rules of the site permit honest posting on safe withdrawal rates and on many other critically important investment-related topics while prohibiting the tactics that have been employed by the Lindaurheads to block civil and reasoned discussion of the investing realities.

24) “A Few Years Back, I Was Blacklisted at Just About Every Personal Finance Blog on the Internet. Last Week, I Attended a Financial Bloggers Conference and Received a Warm Greeting from Everyone I Met.”

The biggest obstacle I face in trying to help people understand how stock investing works is that Valuation-Informed Indexing is so huge an advance over Buy-and-Hold that people cannot accept that what the academic research shows can be true. The result is that I hear lots of patronizing responses. I explain that we can reduce stock investing risk by 80 percent once we open the internet to honest posting and people who should be very excited about this development say: “That sounds nice, Rob”

I hint at that problem in this blog entry when I quote the words from an e-mail to Wade in which I compared Shiller’s discovery that valuations affect long-term returns to the harnessing of electricity. I don’t think that’s an overstatement. I really believe that the change is that big. If Shiller is right, we are wrong to think that each day’s stock price is determined by economic or political events taking place that day. Those events can serve as catalysts for price changes that eventually would take place anyway. But the true causes of price changes are investor emotions that were experienced 10 years ago. This changes the game in a fundamental way. If price changes are caused by economic and political events, it is not possible to greatly reduce investing risk — we obviously can not do anything to influence economic and political events to make them more favorable for investors. But we CAN change investor psychology if P/E10 does what 30 years of academic research shows it does. P/E10 warns us when investor emotions are getting out of control and provides us a reason for taking note of the warnings (those who take note earn far higher returns at greatly reduced risk). If we take note of investor emotions when they first start to go out of control, we can stop them from getting too much out of control. We can put an end to bull markets and bear markets and economic crises.

One of the particular problems I face is that, when I point out the role played by The Stock-Selling Industry in promoting Buy-and-Hold, it sounds like I am saying that everyone in this field is unethical. There is one sense in which I really am saying that but there is another sense in which I am not saying that. We’ve known for 10 years now that the numbers in the Old School retirement studies are wildly wrong and the studies have not been corrected to this day. Such a thing obviously could not happen except in a field which is corrupt from top to bottom. So the corruption present here is a serious problem that absolutely must be addressed. But I do NOT believe that the experts in this field have any idea how bad a strategy Buy-and-Hold is or how good a strategy Valuation-Informed Indexing is. I believe that what is going on is that people cannot let in how big an advance we have achieved and they are rationalizing. Because they are afraid to move forward, they are telling themselves stories aimed at convincing themselves that sticking with the old and discredited ideas is not really such a bad thing. Once they make a decision to do that, they become intensely sensitive and defensive over the topic.

We need to break the spell we are under. The experts should be helping. That’s their job. But it is not entirely fair for us to put this all on the experts. We need to express to them a desire to move forward. My guess is that, when we do that, we will find a lot of the experts will be perfectly happy to move beyond Buy-and-Hold. Right now, we are waiting for them to make the first move and they are waiting for us to make the first move. We all need to stop worrying about who goes first and just MOVE. Once things get started moving in the right direction, things will get better and better and better and we will all laugh that it took us so long to see the merit of moving ahead together.

25) Financial Mentor Site: “The 4 Percent Rule Could Cause You to Leave a Fortune on the Table or Run Out of Money Long Before You Die”

I knew that the Goons were getting to Wade when I saw the post cited in this blog entry appear at his blog. In my earlier e-mail correspondence with him, Wade would be dancing around like a boy on Christmas morning when he discovered some exciting new aspect of how stock investing works that he had not known about before and that he could examine in breakthrough research. He used to marvel at how no other researchers had looked at these questions. “How could it be?” he would ask me. Why had all these wonderful discoveries been left to him?

Now he knew. Now he was announcing that he would no longer be doing research on valuations-related topics. Now this was too “controversial” in his eyes. Wade has two small children to support. He is subject to the same pressures as most of the other humans. Still, it is mighty sad to see someone of so much talent and ambition blocked in his efforts to realize his dreams by helping millions of us become far more effective investors.

It’s not only sad for Wade and it’s not only sad for the millions of middle-class investors who miss out on what they would have learned had he felt free to pursue his research quests where his intelligence and his findings led him. It’s sad for the Buy-and-Holders too. Buy-and-Holders are not monsters (No, really, hear me out re this one!). They are humans too. They have retirement accounts. They want to invest effectively. They worry about their financial futures. They really do follow Buy-and-Hold strategies (they tell tales about lots of topics but I have never seen any evidence that they are telling tales re that one). So they hurt themselves while hurting lots and lots and lots of others. And then they experience pangs of shame and guilt over what they have done as they resort to ever more desperate acts to cover up their acts of deception and intimidation and hubris.

Are you beginning to understand why I am no big fan of Get Rich Quick investing strategies? They don’t only rob us of our retirement dreams. They rob us of our souls.

Wade saw an intensity of hate that he had never before seen in his life and he blinked. How many of us with two small children to raise can say that we are 100 percent certain that we would not ever give consideration to making the same call?

The Buy-and-Holders are not evil people (well, maybe Greaney…). There are millions of smart and good people who believe in Buy-and-Hold without reservation. But the Get Rich Quick idea that is at the core of the Buy-and-Hold marketing campaign is evil. Goonishness is sin. And it is only when we learn to talk about these issues with the level of frankness I am employing here that we will begin making serious efforts to pull ourselves out of this economic crisis. That’s my sincere take re these important matters, in any event.

26) Wade Pfau Creates Graphic Comparing Nominal and Valuation-Adjusted Wealth

You need to study this graphic. It is pointing at something of importance for those of us who want to bring the economic crisis to a quick end (shouldn’t that be pretty much all of us?). I discussed the significance of the graphic in one of the e-mails that I sent to Wade. I will offer more in-depth comments in the section of this article that examines that e-mail.

27) Kay Conheady Asks: Does the Trend Matter?

We know that valuations affect long-term returns. We know that P/E10 is the best metric to us to assess valuations. So many assume that there should be an ideal stock allocation that corresponds to each P/E10 level. Perhaps you should be at 50 percent stocks when the P/E10 level is 20 and at 20 percent stocks when the P/E10 level is 25 and at 75 percent stocks when the P/E10 level is 15, something like that.

No. It doesn’t work that way. It is generally true that you want to go with a lower stock allocation at higher P/E10 levels because higher P/E10 levels translate into lower returns and increased risk. But the a P/E10 level of “20” does not always signify precisely the same thing.

A P/E10 level of “20” signifies a significant amount of overpricing. Not an insane amount. A significant amount. Stocks generally offer a very strong long-term value proposition. So most investors should want to go with a fairly high stock allocation at times when stocks are significantly overpriced but not insanely overpriced. So, if you put a gun to my head and force me to say what stock allocation makes sense for most investors when the P/E10 level is “20,” I probably would indeed respond with a number somewhere in the general neighborhood of 50 percent. You always need to account for the investor’s particular financial circumstances and risk tolerance. But a 50 percent stock allocation is roughly right when the P/E10 is 20, according to the research.

However, that roughly right answer leaves out an important part of the story, a part that those steeped in Buy-and-Hold logic rarely think to inquire about. A P/E10 of “20” experienced on the way up to a P/E10 level of 44 signifies something very different from a P/E10 of 20 experienced on the way down to a P/E10 level of 7. Now — you don’t know when the P/E10 level hits “20” that we will be going up t0 44. If you did, you would go with a stock allocation far higher than 50 percent when you saw a P/E10 level of 20. But you do know that the odds are far greater that the P/E10 level is headed downward when you experience a P/E10 level of 20 a few years after seeing a P/E10 level of 44 than they are when you experience a P/E10 level of 20 a few years after seeing a P/E10 level of 7.

The P/E10 level does not move randomly. We do not jump from 14 to 7 to 44 to 10 to 33 and like that. There is a pattern that plays itself out over and over again (there’s not been one exception in the historical record). Stock prices start at low levels in the wake of the economic crisis caused by an earlier trip to insane price levels. The economic crisis wipes out huge amounts of (pretend) investor wealth. So investors are naturally depressed and lacking hope for the future. Still, stocks offer such amazing long-term returns when priced low (the most likely 10-year annualized return when we are at a P/E10 level of 7 is 17 percent real) that eventually some overcome their depression and buy some stocks. That sends prices gradually higher and the gradual price movement eventually entices other investors out of their depression too. These new investors send prices even higher, until they reach fair-value levels. As prices pass fair-value levels, some investors become concerned that the long-term value proposition is becoming less strong. But those who enjoy seeing their portfolio values increases at this point begin concocting rationalizations for the higher prices. The rationalizations catch on and prices rise yet higher. But the rationalizations are never 100 percent convincing. The millions who invest in stocks at high prices continue to worry silently that they are making a mistake. Eventually, some economic or political event causes a number of them to move their concern from the back burner to the front burner and they trigger a price collapse. But prices don’t collapse to a P/E10 value of 7 in one year. As prices drop, investors who recall the higher prices that applied recently jump in to buy more stocks and temporarily firm up prices. It takes year for prices to fall all the way down to one-half fair value (a P/E10 level of 7 or 8), just as it took years for prices to reach insanely high levels a few years earlier.

A P/E10 value of “20” is a bit scary on the way up. But there is a significant chance that stocks can provide a strong long-term value proposition at this price. There has never in history been a time when stocks performed well when purchased at a P/E10 value of “20” on the way down. So the same P/E10 value means different things when encountered in different stages of the bull/bear cycle.

It’s a good sign that financial planners are working up the courage to begin writing about these sorts of issues. All such analyses of course represent a direct challenge to the Buy-and-Hold Model of understanding how stock investing works. If the market were efficient, the P/E10 value would be a meaningless number. If Buy-and-Hold worked, investors would not ever need to change their stock allocations in response to changes in P/E10 levels. The article referred to in the blog entry linked to here is an exercise in silliness to the confirmed Buy-and-Hold advocate. We need to see a lot more of this brand of silliness!

28) Bill Bengen: “Buy-and-Hold In These Environments Is an Invitation to Disaster”

I’m always looking for ways to simplify my message. Is there one point that sums up all the damage that has been done by Buy-and-Hold that I could communicate to people and thereby bring all the ugliness to an end?

There are two of those “here is the entire story in one write-up” moments set forth in this blog entry.

First, consider the Bill Bengen story. This is the guy who came up with the idea that 4 percent is always safe. He has abandoned the idea. He took his clients down to zero stock allocations in the early days of the economic crisis. He now says that Buy-and-Hold is an “invitation to disaster.” It is not Rob Bennett saying these things, it is Bill Bengen, the hero of the Buy-and-Holders. This has the Buy-and-Holders scared to death.

Right?

Not right. The Buy-and-Holders blow it off. Now that Bengen is pointing out the dangers of Buy-and-Hold and acknowledging the errors in the Old School studies, Bengen is a moron. He was never smart. All of that stuff goes down the Memory Hole. If that doesn’t show that Buy-and-Hold is a 100 percent emotional strategy, I don’t know what would do the trick.

Second, please read the comments at the end of the discussion thread.  I believe that the discussion in this thread played a role in causing Wade to flip to the dark side. The need for a correction in the Old School SWR studies is as obvious as anything could ever be. Millions of people used these studies to plan their retirements. The numbers in the studies are wildly wrong because the methodology used to calculate the SWR was analytically invalid. We need to do all we can to get the word out before millions of elderly people are left destitute and as a society we face one of the worst social catastrophes we have ever suffered as a nation. There is no dispute anymore on the question of whether the studies are in error or not. Our first ten years of discussions have helped us achieve a consensus on that point. Even the fellow who developed the bad methodology now publicly acknowledges that the studies get the numbers wrong. So we are all working together to get them corrected by the close of business today.

Right?

Actually, not right.

If we correct the discredited retirement studies, people are going to start asking questions about all the other Buy-and-Hold studies that get the numbers wildly wrong. It’s not just in retirement planning discussions that we have been giving bad advice for three decades now. The same thing happens when we give advice on risk management and on setting one’s stock allocation and on hundreds of other critically important investment-related topics. So the thing to do is to — Stonewall! Acknowledge the mistakes but don’t fix the studies! Maybe no one will notice! After all, most investors bought into the Buy-and-Hold garbage! They are not going to want to admit having been taken! If their emotional addiction to the Get Rich Quick garbage we have been feeding them has grown strong enough, perhaps we will be able to get away with this con for another few months or for another few years! It’s certainly worth a try! What’s the alternative? Acknowledging that that fellow who posted on the internet about the errors in the retirement studies 10 years ago was right all along? We can’t do that! I mean, come on!

Arty says in a post put forward at 11:56 am: “It isn’t your argument on valuations (for example) that is the biggest issue, in this context. It is the manner in which you dialogue that can be improved. Because at present, I think many are thinking more about your manner than your arguments. Point being, your arguments could become more persuasive with some rhetorical modification. ”

I respond: “I get it that I could say “valuations matter” but not say “the Old School SWR studies need to be corrected” and no one would be troubled, Arty. I got that on the morning of May 13, 2002. But would doing that lead to Buy-and-Hold being buried 30 feet in the ground, where it could do no further harm to humans and other living things? My guess is that the answer is “no.” Why? Because lots of people have said that valuations matter and not followed up with a demand that the Old School SWR studies be corrected and Buy-and-Hold still lives today. We need to take it to the next strep to get anywhere with this thing, Arty. We need to open up the internet to honest posting on important investment-related topics. Nothing short of that is going to get the job done, in my assessment.”

Arty then says: “There are good minds here who, in their various ways, are trying to help you with this (Wade, to whom I think you owe apology, and Drip Guy and What also make the points, albeit perhaps less nicely). It seems you confuse adjustments to manner, persuasion, tone, and rhetorical adeptness with “burying things” or utter compromises. That isn’t what I am saying at all. But I think it may be all you hear, at present. In sum, I’m talking about doing precisely what you want—but more effectively.”

I then say: “When do we start work on getting the article on the front page of the New York Times that is needed to warn the millions of middle-class investors who were taken in by the Old School SWR studies of the dangers of those studies and to tell them what they need to do today to protect their retirements from going bust? I wasn’t the one who threatened to organize a Goon Squad campaign to get Wade fired from his job when for a time he was posting honestly on safe withdrawal rates, Arty. That was the other fellow. The fellow who I worked up the courage to stand up to on the morning of May 13, 2002.”

Evidence-Based Investing says: “Rob has been getting that message from numerous people over the last 10 years. Every time he ignores it.”

Rob says: “It’s true that many, many people have put forward suggestions along these lines, Evidence. It’s also true that for 10 years I have been responding in the same way. I always say that I am open to anything that does not require me to post dishonestly on safe withdrawal rates.”

Evidence says: “And there is the problem right there. You are the only one who thinks that a “change in tone” means “agreeing to post dishonestly on SWRs”.

Rob says: “I’m the one who has to accept responsibility for the words that appear associated with my name, Evidence. The hand of kindness is extended. I will do anything that I can do short of agreeing to post dishonestly re SWRs. That I will not do. Not 10 years ago. Not now. Not ever. At least it’s not a complicated situation! (That’s a joke, kinda, sorta.)”

Wade has two small children to support. He cannot afford to post honestly on the need for corrections in the long-discredited Old School safe withdrawal rate studies. Acknowledge the need for corrections in those studies and you become a non-person in this field. Acknowledge the need for corrections in those studies and you won’t pass peer review and you won’t get written up by the most influential people and you won’t be permitted to post at the Bogleheads Forum and your blog won’t get links from the biggest sites. Is there really any need to go so far as to correct the discredited studies? Isn’t acknowledging that they are in error enough? Shouldn’t the investors who were taken in by these garbage studies have realized they were garbage the first time they looked at them? It’s obvious that they don’t contain valuation adjustments, isn’t it? None of the authors of the studies ever pretended that they looked at the most important factor affecting the question under examination, did they? As Greaney once observed, his study “is what it is.” All of the studies are what they are. The only thing different today is that we are now acknowledging that we know the numbers in the studies are wrong whereas for the earlier 10 years we were pretending that we thought that the numbers in the studies were accurate. Why does this fellow think anything needs to be corrected? The studies are what the studies are, for heaven’s sake. They always were what they always were. They always will be what they always will be. It’s all perfectly clear to everyone except that Rob Bennett fellow.

This has been going on for ten years now.

Here are some words that Wade put to the thread: ” The only truly safe withdrawal rate is 0%. So what we try to figure out instead is what is a reasonably safe withdrawal rate. Lower withdrawal rates are clearly safer, but they have the cost of reducing a retiree’s spending and increasing the chance of leaving a lot on the table at the end. Retirees try to balance these tradeoffs: to find the highest withdrawal rate possible while still remaining “reasonably” safe. Many people who have kept up with the literature still conclude that 4 or 4.5% is reasonably safe. That is the exact thinking process which can be seen in Bill Bengen’s interview. Now, the 4% rule has many problems: (1) it looks at the probability of failure and not the magnitude of failure (i.e. 1 year of failure is more manageable than 10 years of failure);  (2) it ignores the missed benefits of higher spending: people may be willing to spend more now even though it increases the probability of having less later (3)  it ignores other income sources such as Social Security, annuities, and pensions (4) it doesn’t account for fees or taxes; (5)  it assumes that retirees can actually earn returns that match the index returns; (6) it assumes retirees need inflation-adjusted withdrawals (i.e. spending doesn’t decline as people get older); and (7) it doesn’t account for valuations. I suggest you are focusing too much on the last point and ignoring everything else. Some of those other factors allow higher withdrawal rates, while others support lower withdrawal rates. A complete withdrawal rate study must account for all of this.”

I favor a policy of permitting honest posting on each and every one of these points and on any other points that any community member wants to discuss. It’s true that I focus on the valuations topic. That’s because it is only discussions of the effect of valuations that have been banned. It is the failure of the Buy-and-Hold advocates to tell their readers how much they need to change their stock allocations in response to big valuation swings that is the problem. The other stuff mentioned by Wade is not so “controversial.”

29) Wade Pfau Posts More New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research

Wade says here that retirees who take valuations into consideration when setting their stock allocations can achieve safe retirements while saving less each year because the higher returns they will obtain in the long run will more than make up the difference. We shouldn’t need research to tell us that. Common sense should tell us that. But, given what we have been hearing from the “experts” during the Buy-and-Hold Era, it makes me happy to hear Wade say it.

30) “We Are the Luckiest Group of Investors That Has Ever Walked Planet Earth”

Everyone benefits if we open the internet up to honest posting on investing topics. Both Democrats and Republicans. Both the old and the young. Both women and men. Both Buy-and-Holders and Valuation-Informed Indexers. Even The Stock-Selling Industry benefits if we bring an end to the Campaign of Terror. Not too many of us will be able to afford to buy stocks once the economy enters the Second Great Depression. This is a rare win/win/win/win/win.

31) Wade Pfau: “Your Comment About Mr. Bengen Causing Failed Retirements Is Too Harsh”

Wade thinks we are being “nicer” to Bengen to say nothing about the need for him to correct the errors in his study immediately. I don’t see it. I truly do not.

I am grateful to Wade for his willingness to state his point of view at the blog. And I am grateful to Bill Bengen for the short e-mail he sent me acknowledging receipt of my e-mail to him.

32) “Bill Bengen and Wade Pfau and John Bogle Should Not Be Forgetting About Those People. The Journalists and Economists and Politicians Should Not Be Forgetting About Those People”

This is an important point. I often criticize people in the investing field for not doing more to get the retirement studies corrected. The full reality is that not all of the blame should fall on people in the investing advice field. Where are the personal finance journalists who should be writing about this matter? Where are the politicians who should be addressing the public policy consequences of our failure to get those studies corrected for 10 years now? Where are the retirees themselves, for heaven’s sake? In ordinary circumstances, there would be no need for any of the rest of us to push for corrections because the retirees who were taken in by the studies would be so angry that the authors of the studies would not dare to leave them uncorrected for a single day. Do you want to know how many times in 10 years I have heard a retiree complain about what was done to him? This has not happened one time.

33) “Doing Away with Price Volatility Is Doing Away with Risk”

Getting the Old School retirement studies corrected is important in its own right. But the full reality is that that is only the beginning. We have not advanced in our understanding of how stock investing works in 30 years because of our concern that pointing out things the Buy-and-Holders got wrong would hurt their feelings. That’s the bad news. The good news is that we have 30 years of advances waiting for us once we work up the courage to begin moving forward again. Can you imagine what kind of computer you would be using to read this article if the industry had been able to block all advances in computer technology achieved from the year 1981 forward? That’s what happened in The Stock-Selling Industry. Once we get those SWR studies corrected, we will see a flood of exciting new insights. They will be coming so fast that we will not be able to keep up. And we will all live richer (in every sense of the word) lives as a result.

That’s why I soldier on.

34) “My Job Is to Get Everybody Talking to Each Other So That We Begin Reaping the Benefits of the Amazing Stuff We Have Been Learning for 30 Years”

One of the things we have seen over and over again over the course of our first 10 years of discussions is that the Buy-and-Holders are very concerned about who will get the credit for the transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing. I don’t worry about it. Valuation-Informed Indexing is superior in so many ways that there is more than enough credit to go around to everybody who wants to help out. Bogle should get some of the credit. Bernstein should get some of the credit. Fama should get some of the credit. Siegel should get some of the credit. We need all these people working with us. It’s not an issue.

35) “Wade Pfau Does Not Post With Full Honesty [at the Bogleheads Forum]”

I believe that this blog entry played a big role in causing the rift. My comment that Wade does not post with full honesty came in response to baiting by the Goons. I had said that the Bogleheads Forum was a corrupt enterprise for so long as a ban on honest posting remained in effect and one of the Goons came back and asked if that meant that Wade was dishonest (since Wade posts there and does not say that he objects to the ban when he does so). I of course knew that the Goons were baiting me. Still, I believe that the question they were asking was a legitimate one and deserved a sincere response. It is dishonest to participate at a board community that has banned honest posting on so important a matter and not to say anything about it at the board. I believe that all participants in board communities are required to speak up about such matters as the price of admission to the community.

I of course do not in any way mean to suggest that Wade is unique in this regard. There are lots of people who do not like the ban and yet are too afraid to speak up. Mike Piper, the blogger at the pro-Buy-and-Hold Oblivious Investor blog, told me that he thinks Mel Lindauer is a “jerk” and that “there is nothing I would more like to see” than a lifting of the ban on honest posting. But Mike does not dare to speak up in his posts to the Bogleheads Forum. I failed to speak up myself for a long time. Greaney was a ruthlessly abusive poster at the Retire Early board at Motley Fool prior to May 13, 2002. Like most of my fellow community members, I was afraid to speak up. The thing that turned it for me was when Greaney and his Goons drove the best poster at the board off the site. It became clear to me at that point that the board would not long remain a useful resource for those interested in the Retire Early topic unless some responsible people took some responsible steps.

Wade cannot overcome the Goons on his own. That is why he is afraid. But, if everyone at Bogleheads who would like to see honest posting permitted there would say so, the Goons would be finished. The Goons stick together. The Normals (both Buy-and-Holders and Valuation-Informed Indexers) need to stick together too. There are a lot more of us than there are of them.

36) “This Is Why We Have Reporters in This Crazy, Mixed-Up World of Outs. Others Do Other Things. Reporters Do This.”

I never went to investing school. I never managed a multi-million dollar fund. I don’t claim to possess any particular investing “expertise.” That’s why I have what it takes to post the following words at my blog: “Wade should not have to put his job at risk by posting honestly on SWRs or any other issue. Nor should John Bogle. Nor should Bill Bengen. Nor should Scott Burnszzz. Nor should Bill Berstein. Not should the owner of IndexUniverse.com. Nor should the site administrator at Motley Fool. Nor should ES. Nor should J.D. Roth. Nor should Mike Piper. Nor should the owner of the Monevator blog. Nor should Bill Shuler. Nor should Brett Arends. Nor should Bill Shultheis. Nor should Michael Kitces. Not should Jacob at My Personal FInance Journey. Nor should Larry Swedroe. Nor should John D. Craig. Not should Microlepsis. Nor should Retired at 40. Nor should BenSolar. Nor should Wanderer. Nor should Rahiv Sethie. Nor should Carl Richards. Nor should Norbert Schenkler. Nor should Mel Lindauer. Nor should Taylor Larimore. Nor should John Greaney. Nor should Rob Bennett. Nor should GW.”

The investing advice field is corrupt. I don’t say that to hurt the feelings of my many friends in the investing advice field. I say it to help them out. What we are seeing today is not what Wade Pfau bargained for when he first started applying his talents to investing analysis. What we are seeing today is not what John Bogle bargained for when he first started applying his talents to investing analysis. Heaven help us all, but what we are seeing today is not what Mel Lindauer and John Greaney bargained for when they first started applying their talents to investing analysis.

I did not apply for this job. It was one of those situations where they asked for a volunteer to step forward to carry out an important mission and everyone else knew to quickly take one step backwards and old dumb ass Rob Bennett didn’t think quickly enough and just remained in the spot he was in and the next thing you know I find myself arguing that we should open the internet to honest posting on safe withdrawal rate and other critically important investment-related topics.

There are two possibilities. One is that we follow the basic social norms that have made us the richest nation on earth — allowing people with different viewpoints to have their say — and what we learn soon brings on the greatest period of economic growth we have ever seen in history. Or the ban remains in place and we see a price drop of another 65 percent, causing enough of a loss of middle-class wealth to put us in the Second Great Depression. Once you know for certain that we are going to have to correct the mistake we made in our efforts to develop a first draft research-backed strategy, the thing to do is to get the embarrassing stuff behind us as quickly as possible by saying what needs to be said to move things to the next step. I first made that argument in May 2002. It remains just as true today.

I think it would be fair to say that this is the biggest economic and political story of our time. This one is bigger than Watergate. Every reporter prays to someday become involved in a story of this magnitude. Ten years! Yikes! We all need to learn to be careful what we pray for!

37) Wade Pfau: “I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September…I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing.”
While I was thrilled to hear from Wade, I was also nervous about how Wade had worded his post at the Bogleheads board. It was defamatory. I do not want my name to be associated in any way, shape or form with the Campaign of Terror. So I felt that I had to disassociate myself from Wade’s defamatory comments (which were obviously the result of his fear of what the Goons would do to him if he were to post his sincere thoughts) in no uncertain terms. Now that Wade has gone to the dark side, I am glad to be able to say that I warned him about what would come of getting involved with the Goons in my very first e-mail to him.

38) Wade Pfau: “I Was Trying to Pay Tribute to Your Accomplishments in What I Knew Would Be a Hostile Environment”

Wade learned about my work by reading posts I had put to the Vanguard Diehards board in the days before honest posting was banned there. He knew how brutally abusive the Goons could be. He never wanted Goon attacks to be directed at him. In the early days, his desire to learn about the realities of stock investing caused him to be willing to take some risks. Later on, after he saw how much the Big Shots could help him advance in his career, the Goons gained more leverage over him and he became less willing to say things that helped people appreciate the dangers of Buy-and-Hold.

There of course should be no “hostile environment” for those sharing with us their honest beliefs about how stock investing works. If we all were thinking clearly, we would be alarmed to learn that there is even one academic researcher who views the Bogleheads Forum as a “hostile environment.” I think it would be fair to say that it is a whole big bunch more than one who feels that way.

39) “We ‘Know’ All Sorts of Things About Investing Today That We Do Not Want to Acknowledge That We ‘Know.’ My Aim Is to Harvest Thus Unappreciated Knowledge.”

This one serves as sort of a personal mission statement. People sometimes think that those with ties to Wall Street are the true “experts” in this field. Thinking like that is the rough equivalent to thinking of the fellow who greets you at the used-car lot as the world’s only true expert on how much you should spend on a car. I don’t buy it. The Stock-Selling Experts have made a hash of things. But as a society we really have in recent decades generated hundreds of amazing insights into how stock investing works in the real world. Our task today is getting the word out to people re all the wonderful stuff that we have learned that the expert salesmen very much do not want us finding out about.

40) Wade Pfau: Bogle in Many Cases Said Things “Not All That Different From What You Said”

This is a great point. I am the world’s leading critic of the Get Rich Quick element of the Buy-and-Hold “strategy.” But I view Bogle as the second most important figure in this field (only Shiller ranks higher, in my assessment). Bogle revolutionized the field. It will be decades before people (including Bogle himself!) realize how revolutionary and important his insights really are. I see myself as the fellow who took Bogle’s work to a new level, the level that he would have taken it to had Shiller’s research only been available at the time Bogle was developing his First Draft attempt at a research-based strategy.

I continued thinking of myself as a Buy-and-Holder until I was banned at the Bogleheads Forum. Given that the “leaders” of that board think of themselves as Buy-and-Holders and given that the leaders of that board hate the academic research of the past 30 years with a burning passion, I decided that the world’s first true research-based strategy needed a different name. For several years, I referred to the new Buy-and-Hold as “Rational Investing” (that’s the label I use on the 200 RobCasts I recorded in first two years following the onset of the 2008 price crash). I picked up that some Buy-and-Holders took it as an insult that I called the new model “rational” (the implication is that Buy-and-Hold is NOT rational). So I thought it might be better to call it “Valuation-Informed Indexing.”

Anyway, I am a big Bogle guy. I learned about the errors in the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies by reading Bogle’s book (I read Shiller only later). John Walter Russell, the co-developer of the calculators at my site, was a big fan of Bogle’s speeches. And the only investing advice my dad ever passed along to me was to buy funds only from Vanguard. Bogle has not yet responded to any of the three e-mails I have sent him re the Lindauer matter, however.

41) Wade Pfau (at the Bogleheads Forum): “My Comment Before [Suggesting That Rob Bennett Had Been Dogmatic in His Posting at This Forum] Was Completely Misguided and I Apologize to Him”

Wade at one time was able to apologize when he had done wrong. There aren’t too many in this field re which we can say that. There is no such thing as a human so perfect that he can never make a mistake. If we were discussing any field of human endeavor other than stock investing, this observation would be boring because it would be viewed as being so blindingly obvious. In this field, it is a “controversial” claim.

42) Rob Bennett to Wade Pfau: “It is 100 Percent Wrong That People Posting at Bogleheads Feel Intimidated re Posting My Name…. By Using My Name, You Help Others Get Over Their Feelings of Intimidation”

I warned Wade about the Goons. I tried. I worked it. Look at my comment re Drip Guy in the e-mail described in this blog entry. I say: “Drip Guy is a super Goon.”

43) Wade Pfau: “I Like Your Term ‘Historical Surviving Withdrawal Rate’ As a More Accurate Description of What Traditional Studies Like Trinity Show”

We had a number of people agreeing with me that we use the term “Historical Surviving Withdrawal Rate” way back in the Summer of 2002. “No dice,” the Goons said.

And you can see why when you look at Wade’s comment re a Business Week article in which the author fails to explain that the Old School studies can get the numbers as wildly wrong on the low side as they have in recent years gotten the number wildly wrong on the high side. Wade says: “Perhaps it is not a major oversight on the author’s part.” I know that some will say that Wade is being “nice.” If you ever discover some number that I get wildly wrong, I ask that you not be so “nice” as to fail to mention it to me. When I make mistakes, I want to get them corrected as quickly as possible. The nice thing is to tell me, not to keep quiet and thereby let me go on embarrassing myself.

The Goons continue to behave poorly because so many of us are too “nice” to demand that they live up to even the minimal standards that have for thousands of years applied for civilized people. We do them no favors by cowering in fear when they strike out. When we cower, it makes them feel worse about themselves. And, as time goes on without any improvement in the behavior, they have more and more things to cover up.

Greaney should have been banned when he put forward his first death threat. That would have sent a message to the other Goons and they all would have reined in their abusive behavior. In fact, I think we might have even been able to hold onto Greaney if we had acted properly early on. He could have been banned for a few months and then returned to the community. Everyone would have forgotten about the bad behavior after a few months. By failing to take appropriate action we have stretched out his embarrassment and pain and self-loathing for 10 years. That’s kind? Huh? I don’t see it. Greaney is a friend of mine and I think we have let him (and ourselves) down is a terrible way with our cowardice.

44) Wade Pfau: “If Valuation-Informed Indexing Consistently Outperforms Fixed and Lifecycle Strategies, Then the Proof Is in the Pudding. Given How Well Valuations Help to Explain Withdrawals Rates, I Think There Is a Lot of Potential for This Topic”

The proof is in the pudding. Yes, it is. Yes, it is.

I recall the morning of May 13, 2002. I knew Greaney was going to throw a fit when I pointed out the error in his study. So, before I pushed the “Send” button, I looked over that thread-starter very carefully. I looked at the data again. Everything checked out. There was no doubt. The study got the numbers wildly wrong. I was worried about Greaney. He had led the most vicious smear campaign in the history of the internet (At that time! — This was nothing compared to what we have seen over the past 10 years) a few months earlier to drive the most popular poster at the board off of it (“Wanderer” had committed the terrible crime of noting that real estate can in some circumstances be a good investment) and I knew he was going to bring trouble. But what could he do, really? It was a numerical calculation. The numbers were wrong. Anyone who cared to could check the study to see whether it contained an adjustment for the valuation level that applied on the day the retirement began or not. So I was safe.

That particular joke was on me, eh?

You don’t want to prove a point too conclusively. If you kinda, sorta prove a point, the people who made the mistake can save face by saying things were not always so clear. The error in the Old School SWR studies was so painfully obvious to all that it just couldn’t be acknowledged. No valuation adjustment? Huh? With 30 years of research showing that valuations matter big time? And this wasn’t a mistake relating to just any old issue. This was a mistake that was likely going to cause millions of middle-class people to suffer one of the worst life setbacks imaginable in days to come. This was a BIG mistake.

I was thinking logically. I was thinking that, the more obvious a mistake is, the more critical it is that it be corrected promptly. And I was thinking that, the more damage a mistake does, the more people will see the need to get it corrected. I’ve learned my lesson. It works just the other way around. If this had been some little mistake that was sort of hard to understand, Greaney would have corrected it in 24 hours. No one wants to have people discover a mistake like that. He would have thanked me for letting him know about the mistake before it caused more human misery. Humans don’t like to correct the sorts of mistakes that cause millions of failed retirements. Those we seek to cover up. And, when millions of us have made the same mistake (a failure to consider valuations when setting our stock allocations), the humans can get away with a cover-up for a long time. Not forever, I hope and I pray. But for a long time.

The proof is in the pudding, as Wade says. But the people on the peer review boards at the journals to which he submitted his breakthrough research responded to the discovery of the big mistakes they had made during the Buy-and-Hold Era in ways not entirely dissimilar to the way Greaney responded to the discovery of his big blooper. Wade’s not saying that the proof is in the pudding today. Today he is saying this valuation stuff is for the birds. He’s too busy with other projects to engage in that sort of research anymore. Pudding, Schmudding. The proof is in the popularity polls you win when you keep mum re the Get Rich Quick garbage you see destroying middle-class lives everywhere you turn.

45) Wade Pfau: “I Was a Little Nervous About Contacting You, In Case You Thought I Was Stealing Your Thunder”

Wade was always careful to share credit. He cited me in his article in the Journal of Financial Planning. He cited the Bogleheads Forum community. I think that’s super. I think he should get a lot of credit for that. He certainly never stole any of my thunder. He added to my thunder. He gave it a bigger sound. I am very glad that he overcame his nervousness. I learned a lot from him and had a lot of good times talking things over with him. I believe that he learned a lot from me too and that he enjoyed talking things over with me too. I have hopes of being the first person to shake his hand when he wins that Nobel prize and of taking him out for a pitcher of beer and a prime rib dinner afterward. We’ve both earned a good laugh at the craziness of the humans after we make it together (with you too!) to the other side of The Big, Black Mountain.

46) Wade Pfau: “I Hope We Can Stay in Touch. I Would Like to Do a Valuation-Informed Indexing Study, But It Will Probably Take a Few Months Before It Gets Finished.”

This blog entry contains a link to the “Foundations” section of John Walter Russell’s site. You should click on that one. I rank Shiller as the second most important figure in investing analysis, Bogle as the second most important and Pfau as the fifth most important. I rank Russell as the fourth most important. As the transition from the Buy-and-Hold Era to the Valuation-Informed Indexing Era continues and accelerates, Russell’s work will be getting a lot more attention. Why not be the first on your block to discover it?

47) Wade Pfau: “Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!”

I like that. That’s a nice simple statement that says what needs to be said.

Wade never quite worked up the courage to say it just that plainly at the Bogleheads Forum. But he gets points with me for wanting to and for almost working up the courage to do it. The Lindaurheads are a scary crew.

48) “The Regulars (at the Bogleheads Forum) Did Not Want This Message (That the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Get the Numbers Wrong) Being Heard Because of the Board’s History re This Message”

More blah, blah, blah from Old Farmer Hocus.

49) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “As You Say in Your Podcast, Valuation-Informed Indexing Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time, and I Am Getting Results That Support This”

This finding should be reported on the front page of the New York Times and on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. Once that happy day arrives, it’s all downhill sledding. Wade will always be the first credentialed researcher who reported this (John Walter Russell will always be the very first researcher to report it).

Please note that Wade also reports here that he was only able to find one research paper that found that long-term timing does not work and that this paper was filled with holes. The Stock-Selling Industry has spent so much money trying to persuade us that it is not necessary to engage in long-term timing (that is, that it is not necessary to consider price when buying stocks) that there are many investors who believe that there is a study somewhere supporting this claim. There is no such study. There never was one. There never will be one. The claim that “timing doesn’t work” or that “timing isn’t necessary” is 100 percent b.s. marketing mumbo jumbo. It is a self-serving claim pushed relentlessly by people who make money by persuading the rest of us to buy stocks regardless of the value proposition they provide. There has never been any other “idea” in the history of personal finance that has caused even a fraction of the human misery caused by this one.

Why have academic researchers been so reluctant to report on the 140 years of historical data showing that long-term timing is required of any investor hoping to have a realistic hope of achieving long-term investing success? Wade Pfau learned the answer to that one after he tried doing it and saw the reaction he generated among the most expert salesmen in the field. It’s not done.

Let’s change that! Let’s disrupt!

50) “This Is the Paper That Prompted John Walter Russell to Coin the Term ‘Idiot Switching’ “

Nothing too earth-shaking here.

51) “I Definitely Need to Cite [You] as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing…. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation”

When Wade was posting at Bogleheads, he felt pressured to post defamatory comments about me because of the “hostile environment” (his words) for discussion of the 30 years of academic research showing that Buy-and-Hold can never work. His real view, though, was that: “I definitely need to cite some of your work as the founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, as I have not found anyone else who can lay claim to that.  Shiller pointed out the predictive power of PE10 but never discussed how to incorporate it into asset allocation, as far as I know.”

That’s a big problem. The Goons are Know-Nothings. But they are very strident about pushing their Know-Nothing vision of how stock investing works. There’s a significant percentage of the population (perhaps 10 percent) that is today catching on to the idea that going with a pure Get Rich Quick approach might not be such a hot idea. But that segment of the population is very reluctant to give voice to its beliefs in venues in which ruthlessly abusive Buy-and-Holders are present. The result is that the transition from the Buy-and-Hold Era to the Valuation-Informed Indexing Era is taking a lot longer than it would take if people felt free to share their honest beliefs openly and plainly and boldly.
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We cannot say that people are not open to learning. How the heck can people learn about something that it is taboo to mention? Some say that I am wrong to insist (I do not merely ask!) that every investing board and blog on the internet be opened to honest posting on the last 30 years of academic research. We cannot be yielding on this point. Opening the possibility of honest posting is the most minimal step forward imaginable. Once those who understand the realities feel safe sharing with us what they know, there are all sorts of exciting advances that will follow for many years thereafter. But the process of discovery of how investing really works cannot even be born until those who possess some knowledge of the realities feel comfortable talking about them.
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And we cannot life the ban without giving things at least a little bit of a push. The Buy-and-Holders have been giving horribly wrong investing advice for 30 years now. Those who are at least somewhat aware of what the research says feel a burning shame for the role they have played in bringing on the economic crisis. They are worried about lawsuits. They are worried that they will lose their jobs if they report accurately what the research says and thereby make the Buy-and-Holders “look bad.” Once it becomes common to report honestly on these matters, all sorts of smart and good people will be getting involved in a positive way. Most financial planners long for they day when they will be able to provide advice to their clients that will help them achieve their goals. The rub is — How do we get from the dark place where we are today to the place where deep in our hearts we all very much want to reside in the future?
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We need to work up the courage to give things a little push. There is no other way.

We need to be kind. We need to be charitable. We need to reach out the hand of kindness to the Buy-and-Holders. But we always must keep in mind the distinction between being polite and being wimpy. Wimpy helps no one, least of all the Buy-and-Holders, who once possessed a genuine desire to make use of the academic research to help people live richer lives.

How do things that in theory should be so simple become so impossibly complicated in the flesh-and-blood world?

52) “I Have Not Been Able to Find Anyone Who Has Made A Serious Effort to Explore the Practical Implications of Shiller’s Work. It’s Just Been Sitting There Waiting for Someone to Jump  on It.”

My web site is the only site on the internet that explores the implications of Shiller’s research on an in-depth basis.

Huh?

Too strange.

This is a money topic, people. There is no opportunity in repeating the stale marketing slogans of an earlier day. The opportunity lies in getting to where the puck is going to be before it gets there. Buy-and-Hold is going to be a dirty phrase on everyone’s lips after the next price crash sends us into the Second Great Depression. You want to be learning about and teaching about what comes next, not what is old and dried-up and dead.

Or so it seems to me, in any event.

53) “Not Considering Which End of the Cycle the P/E10 Level Appears on Causes Confusion for Newcomers Who Feel That Each P/E10 Level Should Dictate a Single Stock Allocation”

The point made in this blog entry relates to a source of confusion that comes up often.

54) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “Two Papers by FIsher and Statman Are Still All I Can Find That Provide Evidence Against Long-Term Market Timing”

Arguing that Buy-and-Hold doesn’t work is like arguing that there are no ghosts. How do you prove it? Do you say “Look around you and, if you see no ghosts, that means there are no ghosts”? No one has ever seen a ghost. I take that as evidence that they don’t exist. But it doesn’t convince those who believe. Similarly, there has never been a single study giving anyone a reason to believe that Buy-and-Hold works. Long-term timing has always been required. There has never been a single exception. No one has ever seen the Buy-and-Hold ghost. But believers believe because they believe. You can’t prove a negative. I can show that there is zero reason to believe in Buy-and-Hold. But those who believe will always say that 140 years of historical data is not enough to prove the point. Paul Simon said: “A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.”

The mystery is — Why haven’t there been hundreds of researchers doing what Wade did long before he did it? Don’t they want Nobel prizes? I believe that they learned the same lesson Wade learned — it is career death to report honestly and accurate what the historical data tells us about what works in stock investing. Please don’t take anything I have reported about Wade to carry a suggestion that he is the only one ever to have walked the path he did. My take is that Wade was brave for a time and provided us with the most important research ever produced in this field. The only reason we know about his flip to the dark side is that we live in the age of the internet and the Goons are sufficiently brazen to post their threats in public places. Wade was wrong to flip. But he is not the only academic researcher who understands that this Buy-and-Hold stuff doesn’t pass the smell test. Not by a long shot.

55) “Unless Taylor Larimore [Co-Author of the Book The Bogleheads Guide to Investing) Has Had Some Secret Discussions With Bogle That No One Knows About, He Is Mischaracterizing Bogle’s Position.”

Please see the next entry.

56) “I Was Thinking About Taking Taylor [Larimore] to Task for This [Mischaracterizing Bogle’s Position]…. Other People Have Already Pointed It Out to Him and He Doesn’t Seem to Care.”

This is such an amazing and strange and revealing statement. Wade has a Ph.D. in Economics. Taylor Larimore is some guy whose expertise in this field is that he figured out what buttons you have to push to post stuff on the internet (like me!). And Wade is afraid to point out things that Taylor is saying about the ideas of the fellow for whom the board is named that are misleading. Huh? In ordinary circumstances, wouldn’t it be the fellow who does not have the Ph.D. who would be fearful of messing up and a bit deferential? It’s the guy who knows what he is talking about who is watching his p’s and q’s.

When stock prices rise to insanely dangerous levels, it is those giving the worst possible advice who rise to the top. It is only those who have little idea what is going on who are able to bring themselves to make a case for buying stocks when they are priced at three times fair value. When most of us are trying to persuade ourselves that it is okay to engage in what is obviously reckless behavior, it is those with the most irresponsible take who are the most sought out. Woe to those who possess the sort of expertise signified by the conventional meaning of the word.

57)Wade Pfau: “Bennett Desperately Wants Someone Besides Him to Say That the Trinity Study Needs to Be Corrected, But I’ve Explained That This Isn’t How Research Works”

Wade does his best Goon impression.

Did Greaney write that part about how he was the hero of The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Debate? That one particular section doesn’t sound like Wade’s work to me. That one particular section sounds like Greaney’s work.

WhaChaGonDo?

58) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “You Deserve Much of the Credit [For My Research Findings] As the Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You”

This is more like it!

He sounds so smart when he’s praising me instead of the G Man!

59) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “No Matter What I Try, Valuations-Based Strategies Tend to Produce the Same or Greater Returns at Lower Risk Than Fixed Allocations”

I like that “no matter how I try.”

I’ve been saying things like that for 10 years. But does anybody listen to me? Nooooo.

But let some Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton say it and all of a sudden it’s front-page news.

Well — Not really.

But someday it might be.

60) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “Though I Was Only Trying to Do an Old-School Safe Withdrawal Rate Study, All That I Ended Up Doing Was Showing in a Different Way What You Had Been Saying All Along — The SWR Changes With Valuations”

The SWR changes with valuations. That wasn’t so hard to say, was it?

You next, John Bogle!

Then you, Bill Bernstein!

Then you, Larry Swedroe!

Let’s ALL say it! —

The SWR Changes with Valuations!

Let’s never, ever, ever forget!

61) “If You Can Get Over the Fact That He Compared You to the Potato Famine and the Black Plague, I Think You Can Find a Compliment Buried in His Remarks”

That’s our Drip Guy!

62) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “Now That I Am Accounting for Risk, I Am Even More Amazed by How Well Valuation-Informed Indexing Works… Why Haven’t Academics Already Published Research About This?”

I need to sober up. This is important. Why haven’t academics already published research about this? Getting you to ponder that question is the point of all this.

I provided a big clue in the title of the article. This field is 100 percent corrupt!

I don’t mean that there are not smart people doing good and important work. There are lots of smart people doing lots of good and important work.

I mean that there is one particular type of good and important work that 90 percent of the people employed in this field AVOID doing. They all go out of their way to avoid exploring the 30 years of academic research showing that there is precisely zero chance that a Buy-and-Hold strategy could ever work for any long-term investor.

And the work they avoid doing causes enough human misery to cancel out all the good achieved with the work they do. The research shows that the valuations factor is 80 percent of the investing project. Get that one right and it’s hard to mess up in the long term. Get that one right and it’s hard to do well in the long term. So I think it is fair to characterize a field in which 90 percent are avoiding that one as a field that is 100 percent corrupt in at least one important sense of the word.

We need to change this. For the middle-class investors. For the experts. For the Goons. For Wade Pfau. For absolutely everyone alive on the planet today.

We need to get valuations right. And the first step to getting valuations right is giving ourselves permission to talk about valuations.

Please do what you can. Talk to your neighbors. Talk to your co-workers. Talk to your friends.

Put up a post at Bogleheads.

Well, maybe not that last one.

I like you. I don’t want to see you thrown in the river with concrete shoes on your feet.

Just kidding around, Mel!

63) “Shiller Discovered That the Earth Is Round Instead of Flat and All the Old Maps Need To Be Redone. There Is an Intense Reluctance Among Many to Discuss These Matters Openly and Plainly and Clearly. It Is Widely Viewed As “Rude” to Do So.”

People don’t believe me when I tell them that paying attention to valuations reduces the risk of stock investing by 80 percent. That’s what the data shows. And it really does make sense that that would be the effect. With index funds, investing is easy. You don’t need to worry anymore about picking the wrong stocks. The only remaining risk is the risk that you will fool yourself. Cognitive dissonance is a killer. But — we now have P/E10. P/E10 identifies when the cognitive dissonance is out of control and you want to be extra careful with your retirement money. It’s like those signs that tell you the surf is too rough for swimming today. Those darn Buy-and-Holders have been pulling down the signs. We need to persuade them to stop doing that!

64) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “Perhaps It Is a Good Thing That I Am Not Really a Finance Professor. I Don’t Personally Know So Many Finance People, So I Don’t Feel the Taboo.”

I think Wade is right about this. He stumbled into all sorts of truths about stock investing because he didn’t know what you are permitted to say and what you are not permitted to say. Then he submitted his research for peer review and found out. Now he says the right things. But the research he is doing now is not nearly as important or as helpful as the stuff he was doing before he got filled in on how The Club operates.

65)Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “This Is a Real and Unavoidable Concern. Someone Has to Be Strongly Committed to the [Valuation-Informed Indexing] Strategy to Not Deviate at the Worst Possible Time.”

Wade is technically right about this. Deviate from VII at the worst possible time and you will get killed. That’s a pitfall. However, I think the concern is overblown. They aren’t going to be many people following Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies unless we open the internet up to honest posting. If we do that, everybody will be talking about it. Once we get enough people to learn the realities, there will never again be a major bull market. So investors of the future are not going to have to worry so much about getting in stocks or getting out of stocks at the right time. As more investors learn the realities, stock prices will stabilize. People are trying to evaluate how Valuation-Informed Indexing will work by looking at how stocks performed during the years before we knew about Valuation-Informed Indexing. This is a case where expanding knowledge CHANGES the realities of the subject being studied in a fundamental way.

66) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “In the Past No One Could Have Even Replicated the Fixed Allocation or Valuations-Based Strategies Because There Were No Index Funds”

People don’t understand why, if Valuation-Informed Indexing is so great, no one discovered it before. It’s because it wasn’t possible as a practical matter to follow VII strategies until about 30 years ago. You cannot be a Valuation-Informed Indexing without access to index funds. Index funds only became available in 1976. And you would not know of the need to become a Valuation-Informed Indexer until Shiller published his research on the effect of valuations in 1981. From 1982 to 2000, we had a huge bull market. So no one was looking for a better way to invest than Buy-and-Hold. And Buy-and-Hold did not really start looking bad until the September 2008 price crash. So it has only been for about four years that people have even been open to consideration of a new model.

The reality is that we are the most blessed generation of investors who ever walked Planet Earth. We have opportunities to increase returns and diminish risks that were available to none of those who came before us. It’s good to be skeptical of new ideas. I favor the skepticism. But 10-year-long smear campaigns are carrying things a little too far! We need to stop wasting our time on the nonsense that the Goons bring to the table and get about the business of launching a national debate on the need to learn about the implications of Shiller’s research and on how best to make the transition from the Buy-and-Hold Era to the Valuation-Informed Indexing Era.

67) “It Is Buy-and-Hold That Always Shows Promise for a Time and Then Is Shown Not to Work”

My pet peeve is how people insist that Valuation-Informed Indexing be shown to be perfect in every possible way before it can even be considered while adopting Buy-and-Hold as a default strategy. There is no research supporting the idea that long-term timing is not required. Zero.  Zilch. Nada. The idea that it is okay not to look at the price of stocks when you buy them is the most sick and twisted and depraved marketing pitch ever advanced on the American public. If you weigh the pros and cons of Buy-and-Hold and elect to go with it, that is of course fine. But no one should go with Buy-and-Hold as a default. It is certainly not an approach with intuitive appeal. Name one thing you can buy in this Consumer Wonderland of ours for which you don’t need to look at price before putting money on the table.

Valuation-Informed Indexing should be the default. Valuation-Informed Indexing at least does not defy common sense. It should be the Buy-and-Holders who are held to a tough standard when they try to sell us on the idea that Wall Street is solely looking out for our good when they spend hundreds of millions of marketing dollars trying to persuade us that it is not necessary to consider price when buying stocks.

68) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau in Response to Mel Lindauer’s Claim That His Research Engages in Data-Mining: “I Take the Issue of Data-Mining Very Seriously, and, With All Due Respect, Any Data-Mining That I Am Doing Is In Favor of Buy-and-Hold, Not In Favor of Market Timing”

I was proud of Wade to see him push back against Mel’s intimidation tactics.

69) “Just Don’t Forget to Consider Taxes Next Time, You Big Dummy!”

When I’m happy, I joke around.

70)Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “I Would Not Be Surprised If the Market Timer Had to Go All the Way to 200/0 to Get a Strategy With the Same Risk as 100 Percent Stocks”

Amazing. But that is indeed what the data says.

71) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “Valuation-Informed Indexing Always Provides More Returns for Often Less Risk”

The adverb is “always.”

72) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “I’m Not Sure Whether Criticisms of Your Calculators Have Merit or Not. I Can’t Really Take Anything Drip Guy Says at Face Value”

When he did the flip, he said that it was Drip Guy who persuaded him.

73) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “Buy-and-Hold Only Occasionally Did Better, and That Is When Both Strategies Were Doing Pretty Darn Good Anyway, and So the Difference Between Them Is Not as Important”

If it were just the data, the case would not be nearly as strong as it is. What makes this so compelling is that the data shows us that what our common sense says must be so really is so. You would expect stocks to ALWAYS provide a better long-term value proposition when they are well-priced than they do when they are poorly priced, wouldn’t you?

74) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “Maybe Your ‘New School’ Term Will Get Some More Traction After All…. I Realize Now That I Should Cite Something of Yours About Safe Withdrawal Rates When Preparing the Final Draft.”

The “New School” term actually comes from Scott Burns. Scott disparaged me for using it. But it was Scott who came up with the term and used it in his column. I don’t make this stuff up!

75) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau Sent Financial Columnist Scott Burns (Who Popularized the Infamous 4 Percent Rule for Retirement Planning) Several of His New School SWR Research Papers and Received Polite Brushoffs in Return

Do you see how the game is played? Members of The Club protect members of The Club. The middle-class investor has no one looking out for his interests.

76) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau Was Dejected When the Editors of a Journal Rejected his Maximum Withdrawal Rate Research on Grounds that “They Just Don’t Like the Whole Literature About 4 Percent Rules. They Think That William Sharpe Already Solved This With His 2009 Paper.”

We went in a flash from the story being that the Old School studies are so obviously correct that anyone asking questions about them must be banned from the internet to the story being that the Old School studies are so obviously wrong that there is no purpose served by research being done on any safe withdrawal rate question regardless of the methodology used. I wonder why.

77) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “Is It Not So That Your Results Challenge Fundamental Principles of Modern Portfolio Theory? You Show That an Investor Does Not Need to Take on Added Risk to Justify a Realistic Expectation of Added Return.”

Please see the next item.

78) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “I Think My Paper Is Not Challenging Modern Portfolio Theory…But Often You End Up Persuading Me to Your Points”

I very much liked how Wade handled this one. He didn’t say that he agreed with me that he was challenging Modern Portfolio Theory. On the surface, that sounds odd. He has a Ph.D.. in Economics from Princeton. He should know for certain whether his research challenges Modern Portfolio Theory or not. But I give him a pass on that. The reality is that his research is obviously challenging Modern Portfolio Theory. But Wade had a hard time taking that in because it is a pretty darn shocking claim regardless of how obviously true it is. Given that he wasn’t prepared to accept the obvious reality, Wade could have rejected outright the possibility that his research challenged Modern Portfolio Theory. To his credit, he didn’t do that. He said: “I think.” InvestoWorld would be a better place if more of the experts approached these topics with that sort of humility.

He also added a phrase saying: “But often you end up persuading me to your points.” That reveals an open and curious mind. John Walter Russell said similar things about me. He said that he often started out thinking that a point that I was making was not that big a deal and would be surprised when I would not give up on the point. But then over time he would see that there was an important insight to be generated by exploring the matter at issue on more depth. I ain’t no investing expert. But I possess some sort of skill that is desperately needed in this field at this time. The word that I would use to describe it is to say that I am “methodical.” I like to work my way step by step through a logic chain. The mistake that the Buy-and-Holders made was to jump to conclusions. This stuff is important enough that we need to proceed with caution and be sure to get it right.

79) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “You Have Shown That There Are Circumstances in Which Returns Are Higher in Treasury Bills Than They Are in Stocks. That is INSANE. That Cannot Be. It IS. But It CANNOT Be. Both Things Are So.”

We need to get back to basics.

80) “I Also Have a Problem with the ASSUMPTION (That’s All It Is) That Buy-and-Holders Will Stick With Their High Stock Allocations in the Face of Big Losses…I Have NEVER Seen Any Research Showing That Buy-and-Holders Have Been Able to Hold Through a Complete Bull/Bear Cycle”

I would be grateful if someone who believes in Buy-and-Hold would put forward the name of one person who stuck to a high stock allocation through an entire bull/bear cycle. Has there ever been a single investor who actually pulled this off?

Hint: At the top of the bull, stocks were priced at three times fair value and prices always drop to one-half fair value by the end of the secular bear that always follows a major bull. Going from 3x to .5x translates into a loss for the investor of 5/6 of his accumulated wealth of a lifetime. The investor who had $600,000 in his portfolio at the top of the bull would have $100,000 in his portfolio at the end of the bear market. How many middle-class investors can afford to take that sort of hit?

Buy-and-Hold sells like hotcakes. Responsible people need to start asking: “Is this strategy even a tiny bit realistic? Is there any chance whatsoever that there will someday come a time when it will work in the real world?” (Buy-and-Hold has caused a wipeout of all the investors following it on each of the four times in U.S. history on which it has become popular.)

81) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “It Would Hardly Be Fair to Say That the Buy-and-Hold Guy Panics and Sells Stocks at the Same Moment the Valuation-Informed Indexing Guy Decides to Calmly Increase His Stock Allocation in Spite of the General Panic”

I don’t agree with Wade re this one. I think it is entirely fair to assume an emotionally balanced response to stock price changes from Valuation-Informed Indexers while assuming shock and panic on the part of Buy-and-Holders. Why? The entire purpose of Valuation-Informed Indexing is to prepare the investor emotionally for price changes to come. When you expect prices to crash (all Valuation-Informed Indexers knew the 2008 price crash was coming by looking at the P/E10 level), you do not respond with panic and shock to seeing your expectations fulfilled. Buy-and-Holders respond with panic to price crashes because they do not identify the long-term return associated with the P/E10 level at which they are entering their investment before putting money on the table. To ignore the emotional edge possessed by Valuation-Informed Indexers is to ignore the primary benefit of following the research-backed approach.

82) “It’s the Most Extraordinary Thing I Have Ever Seen. The Moon Landing Is a Very Distant Second.”

Every single person alive today (including our friends in The Stock-Selling Industry) benefits from us bringing the economic crisis to an end and helping the millions who were taken in by the Old School retirement studies and by showing people how to obtain far higher long-term returns while taking on dramatically less risk. And we have not been able to agree to permit honest posting on the internet re what the last 30 years of academic research says for 10 years now. Yowsa!

Those darn humans will do it to you every time!

83) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau (In Response to a Threat by the Greaney Goons to Get Him Fired From His Job for Posting Honestly on Safe Withdrawal Rates: “I Think I Should Stay Publicly Quiet for Awhile As I Really Don’t Want Anyone Sending Messages About Any Topics to Officials at My University”

No one can do quality work when he is living in fear of what others will say about him if he expresses his true thoughts. We shouldn’t want to see Wade living in fear. We shouldn’t want to see Bogle living in fear. We shouldn’t want to see Buffett living in fear. We shouldn’t want to see Bernstein living in fear. We shouldn’t want to see Bennett living in fear.

I look forward to the day when I can wake up in the morning, turn on my computer, click to any investing board or blog, and offer my sincere views on whatever topic is being discussed there that day. I look forward to the day when all my fellow community members — both Buy-and-Holders and Valuation-Informed Indexers — are doing that. That’s the sort of world that I thought I lived in on the morning of May 13, 2002, in the minutes before I clicked “Send” on my post pointing out the errors in the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies 10 years before any of the “experts” in this field dared to talk about them publicly.

84) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau on Hearing of His Fears that the Greaney Goons Will Carry Through on Their Threats to Get Him Fired From His Job: “Please Don’t Delude Yourself Into Thinking That There Is Anything More Than a Zero Chance That ‘This Stuff Will Blow Over Soon’….This Has Been Going on for Nine Years.”

Wade is probably not wrong that his career will suffer in the short term if he shares with us his honest views on stock investing, as informed by the research he has done on the dangers of Buy-and-Hold and on the obvious superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing. It’s not fair.

The human misery that millions of us will experience if we fall into the Second Great Depression will not be fair either.

85) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, After the Greaney Goons Threatened to Get Him Fired From His Job: “The Site Is Owned by Greaney. It Was Set Up Solely for the Purpose of Intimidating People Like You”

There shouldn’t be a site that focuses on intimidating people who post honestly so that Buy-and-Hold can survive another week, another month, another year.

The Greaney site survives because lots of Buy-and-Holders don’t feel the shame over it that they would feel if their belief in Buy-and-Hold were a confident and real one.

86) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “You Probably Shouldn’t Mention This (An Article Linking to The Retirement Risk Evaluator) for Awhile, Or Else Those Guys (the Greaney Goons) Will Send a Bunch of Nasty E-Mails to the Journal of Financial Planning Editors”

What can you say?

87) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “The Safe Saving Rate Concept Can Effectively Compliment the Safe Withdrawal Rate Concept, But It Cannot Replace It. What Do You Do When Someone Notices That on Paper He Has Enough to Retire But in Reality He Is Nowhere Close (Because His Portfolio Is Temporarily Priced at Three Times Fair Value)?”

For years following my May 13, 2002, post, the idea was to say that it was not 100 percent clear that the Old School studies got the numbers wildly wrong.

That one no longer sounds viable today. So the new company line is that we don’t need safe withdrawal rate studies.

We need safe withdrawal rate studies. People putting together a retirement plan need to have some idea of whether they have saved enough to be able to retire or not. Safe withdrawal rate studies, done properly, serve an important purpose.

88) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “I Do Not Wish to Antagonize the ‘Goons’ Too Much… I Do Not Want Them Working Behind the Scenes To Derail Me…I Did Warn the Editor of the Journal of Financial Planning That They May Receive Some Hate Mail After I Mentioned Your Name in the Safe Savings Rate Paper”

I don’t want the Goons working behind the scenes to derail me either. I don’t think anyone does.

89) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “If I Can Think of Things That I Can Do To Soften the Blow to the Goons…I Will Do That… If It Is Any Comfort, I Think It Would Be Fair to Say That the Goons Are Losing Power and Influence BY THE DAY.”

Let us pray!

90) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “This Issue Shouldn’t Really Even Be All That Controversial. It’s Just Common Sense That the Probabilities From the Trinity Study Shouldn’t Be Interpreted As Forward-Looking Probabilities for New Retirees.”

Yes.

And this was the common sense understanding in May 2002 as well.

So —

Why have the first 10 years of our discussions gone as they have?

It’s because Get RIch Quick investing strategies hurt us in serious ways. They encourage us to flee rational thought. That’s not an effective long-term investing strategy. It’s not a close call.

91) Bogleheads Forum Poster in Thread Discussing Academic Researcher Wade Pfau’s Finding that Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Have Provided Higher Returns Than Buy-and-Hold at Lower Risk Throughout the Entire Historical Record: “The Paper Refutes a Central Tenet of the Boglehead Investing Philosophy. It’s a Big Deal.”

I was very happy to see Fred Flintstone say this. It is indeed a big deal. It’s positively huge. I look forward to finding our what Barney has to say.

92) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “Mel [Lindauer] Continues With His Criticism, Which Does Have Some Merit, But Which Means That We Can’t Really Use Historical Data to Study Any Issue At All”

Wade states things well here. Lindauer’s criticism is that 140 years of historical data is not enough for us to be certain that what it tells us is so. There is indeed some merit to that observation. But the further reality is indeed that, if we reject the 140 years of historical data, we have nothing to work with in trying to use the historical data as our guide to learning how to invest effectively.

Given that there is 140 years of data that supports Valuation-Informed Indexing and zero years of data that supports Buy-and-Hold, we should at least permit discussion of Valuation-Informed Indexing on the internet.

There is no downside.

93) Peer Review Report for Academic Researcher Wade Pfau’s Breakthrough Research on Valuation-Informed Indexing: “The Elephant in the Living Room Question Is — What Is the Ultimate Criterion for One to Conclude With Confidence That One Strategy Is Better Than the Other?”

Wade was very discouraged that his paper did not pass peer review. I obviously think the paper should have been published by the most important journal in the world. That said, I think this comment does a good job of identifying the key question. What is the ultimate criterion for one to conclude with confidence that one strategy is better than the other? That really is the issue we all need to grapple with.

My thought is that we could make more progress if we permitted discussion of the pros and cons of the two possibilities.

94) Rob Bennett re the Peer Review Report on Wade Pfau’s Breakthrough Research on Valuation-Informed Indexing: “The Elephant in the Living Room Is That There Has Never Been a Valid Study Showing That Timing Doesn’t Work. That’s Huge.”

Nothing to add.

95) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “My Understanding of the Theory [Behind Valuation-Informed Indexing] Has Helped Me Avoid Pitfalls That Lots of Others Have Fallen Into”

A lot of people find it hard to accept that I have been able to develop the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept despite my lack of “expertise” in this field. I think my lack of expertise gave me an edge. The textbooks in use today were all written by people with a belief that Buy-and-Hold can work. Reading a lot of textbooks that all say more or less the same thing influences a person. I never read any of those textbooks. I was able to come to the discussion with a fresh set of eyes.

96) Rob Bennett to Academic Reseacher Wade Pfau On His Discovery That His Breakthrough Research Would Only Be Published at a “Decent” Journal: “Perhaps Frustration With That Experience Is Behind Your Announcement That You Will Not Be Focusing So Much On Valuations in Days to Come”

It was a sign of dark days to come when Wade announced that he would no longer be doing research on valuations. Given his enthusiasm for Valuation-Informed Indexing, why would be make such a decision? He didn’t want to be a pioneer because he knows that pioneers take the most arrows. The problem is greater in this field than in any other because the non-pioneers in this field get paid such huge salaries. It’s easy to take an arrow when the alternative is a minimum-wage job. It’s hard to take an arrow when the alternative is a million-dollar-plus salary.

97) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, On Learning That His Breakthrough Research Showing That Long-Term Timing Always Works Would Be Published in Only a ‘Decent’ Journal: “There Is a Saying That Any Article Worth Reading Has To Be Rejected By a Journal At Least Once. And Quite a Few Articles That Led to Nobel Prizes in Economics Were First Rejected By a Journal.”

Right on, Wade! His research WILL win a Nobel prize. It may be that there will be a different name listed as the author of the paper that gets the award. But the new paper will really just be repeating Wade’s findings (which in turn were a repeat of John Walter Russell’s findings from a number of years earlier).

98) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “You Note That Many Articles That Led to Nobel Prizes Were First Rejected. The Obvious Question Is — Why? It Is That Knowledge Generally Advances Gradually Over Many Years And Then There Are Occasional Giant Leaps Forward. This Is a Giant Leap”

Nothing to add.

99) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “Naturally, I Am Finding that Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Savings Rate, Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate, and Also Have a Lower ‘Safe” Savings Rate, Than a Fixed Allocation”

We all want to be able to retire earlier in life while saving less. Investment advice that tells us how to pull it off should be popular, no?

I know the answer. I am checking to make sure you know too.

100) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “The Red Line Follows Pretty Much the Same Path as the Blue, But With Lower Tops and Higher Bottoms. That’s the Truer Picture Since the Blue Line in Time Always ‘Catches Up’ to the Red Line.”

Please take time to look at that graphic and to think through the implications a bit. I had hoped that Wade would prepare an entire research paper on this aspect of the question. The red line is real wealth. The blue line is phony, bull-market wealth. After the next crash, prices will be falling to somewhere near one-half of fair value (a P/E10 level of 7 or 8). That will put us in the Second Great Depression UNLESS we get people to look at this graphic and to take to heart its message. The graphic is showing us that all that is happening during a bull market is that we are borrowing huge sums of money from our future selves. Then, in the bear market that follows, we are paying off the debt we incurred. Buy-and-Hold Investing is like living on credit cards. It seems like such a cool idea until you notice after some time that for some funny reason you don’t seem ever to be getting ahead over time.

When prices fall to one-half fair value, the numbers on our portfolio statements won’t be any more accurate than they were in the days before the economic crisis. When stocks are priced at one-half fair value, the true value of your portfolio is two times the stated value. If we get the word out, people will not freak and we will not go into the Second Great Depression. If we keep pushing the Buy-and-Hold garbage, people will believe that the numbers on their portfolio statements are real and they will give up hope. We don’t want that! Even those dummies in The Stock-Selling Industry don’t want that. We need to figure out a way to work together and get this important message out to people. Nobody wins when the economic goes into a Second Great Depression.

I’m sure!

101) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “I Am a Bit Disappointed With the Defensive Tone. I Am Extremely Uncomfortable With the Idea That No Shift At All Is Required. I View That Take As a Dangerously Irresponsible One. I Hear a Certain Amount of Apologizing for Bringing the Subject Up in Your Paper.”

Wade went from jumping around like a kid on Christmas morning when he discovered Valuation-Informed Indexing to twisting himself into logic pretzels to come up with ways to phrase things in sufficiently obscure and unclear ways as not to alarm the Buy-and-Holders too much. I will not report on academic research that shows us how to reduce the risk of stock investing by 80 percent. I will not apologize for being the person who developed the investing strategy that permits all middle-class investors to retire five to ten years sooner than what they thought possible during the Buy-and-Hold Era.

I have a funny hunch that, when we stop apologizing for our breakthrough findings, more people will come to appreciate how exciting they are. Has any girl every married a guy who apologized during his proposal for the life he envisioned they would experience together? If the people who endorse Valuation-Informed Indexing don’t show enthusiasm for it, how can we expect those who have not studied the data themselves to favor it over Buy-and-Hold? No Buy-and-Holder ever apologized for his favorite investing strategy. I believe that the Buy-and-Holders have caused great human misery. But there’s one complement I can offer to my Buy-and-Hold friends without hesitation — the Buy-and-Holders fight for what they believe in. Good on them!

102) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “There Are a Lot of People Who Will Automatically Close Their Minds to This (Valuation-Informed Indexing) Because They Think Of It As Market Timing, and I Hope My Way of Presenting It Can Help to Bring Them Around a Bit.”

People close their mind to it because it is market timing. That’s a true fact.

The answer is not to deny that it is market timing or to try to fool people into thinking that it is something other than market timing by playing word games with them. People are not stupid. They catch on to that sort of thing. We are not going to make the transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing by pretending that there is nothing wrong with the Buy-and-Hold claim that timing doesn’t work and that Valuation-Informed Indexing does not really involve market timing.

Valuation-Informed Indexing is market timing. That’s the magic. That’s the thing that makes it work.

Buy-and-Hold doesn’t work. It is the purest and most dangerous Get Rich Quick scheme ever concocted by the human mind. The reason why it is a Get Rich Quick scheme is that it does not call for market timing.

Market timing is not a bad thing. It is a very, very, very good thing. Market timing is paying attention to price. If you don’t pay attention to price, you are a fool. There is zero chance that a market can function effectively once large numbers of people come to believe that paying attention to price (market timing) might not be required.

It was the Buy-and-Holders who discovered that short-term timing doesn’t work. They have been proven right re that one. It was a huge advance to learn that. The finding that short-term timing never works is the second most important finding in the history of investing analysis. We should all give the Buy-and-Holders huge credit for putting this one forward.

But we must never permit the gratitude we feel to them for putting forward the second most important finding in the history of investing analysis to lull us into thinking that it might be okay to ignore the first most important finding in the history of investing analysis — that long-term market timing is essential for any investor hoping to have any realistic chance whatsoever of achieving long-term investing success.

Short-term timing is bad. Long-term timing is good.

Is it really so difficult to understand that there are two critically important investment realities, not just one?

103) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “I Have Strongly Favored the Blunt Approach. I Can’t Say That I Have Ever Experienced Any Real-World Success With My Approach. So I Cannot Blame Somebody for Trying Something Different.”

I said that to be nice. I believe that the blunt approach is best. My view is that, when you need to tell somebody something that is going to be unpleasant for them to hear (your retirement portfolio has a lasting real value of only one-third of what you today believe is its lasting real value), the thing to do is just to say it and get it behind you. Once the bad part is out of the way, the person can move on to good stuff. The full reality is that it’s a good thing that we now know that in 2000 portfolios were priced at three times their real, lasting value. Learning that means that we can avoid making the same mistakes in future days. It also means that we now know how investing really works and we can use that knowledge to set our stock allocations more effectively and thereby accumulate the assets we need to retire in a much shorter period of time.

None of the good stuff comes flooding in until you get the bad stuff out in the open. So my view is that it’s best just to say it clearly and plainly and boldly and be done with it.

Even the people who are most supportive of me don’t agree with me re this one. That’s why I bent over backwards to suggest to Wade that perhaps he was right and I was wrong. Perhaps that is so. I don’t believe it, however. All of my life experience tells me that the thing to do is to get the bad part of this out of the way as quickly as possible and thereby set ourselves up to enjoy the mountains and mountains of good stuff that follows from doing so.

104) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “Because We Just Don’t Have Enough Historical Data to Be Really Sure About Valuations, I Think You Just Need to Be Satisfied With These Sorts of Statements”

This is  a Goon-type word-game statement. Wade knows better than this.

Say that it is so that we cannot be really sure about valuations. I’m pretty darn sure. But we don’t know with 100 percent certainty that the moon is not made of green cheese. So I suppose that it would be fair to say that some of us do not feel today that we can be really sure.

We’re sure that the Old School studies get the numbers wildly wrong, are we not? There’s no doubt about that one anymore, is there?

So why don’t we correct the studies. I can see why those who do not feel really sure about valuations would not want to replace the discredited Old School studies with the New School studies. I cannot see why they would not want to correct the discredited Old School studies. We don’t necessarily need to replace them with anything. We could just say “it has been determined that these studies are in error and we are waiting to see what shall be offered to replace them.”

That would be saying what I think of as the second-best-choice Magic Three Words. The truly Magic Three Words that we need to hear Bogle say are “I” and “Was” and “Wrong.” If he said those three words in a speech and it was written up on the front page of the New York Times, that would launch the national debate we need to get on the path to overcoming the economic crisis and to get headed in the direction that will lead us over time to the greatest period of economic growth ever seen. But let’s say that Bogle just does not feel up to saying those words at this time. He can surely say the three words “I’m” and “Not” and “Sure,” no? That wouldn’t be ideal. Things would proceed at a slower pace if he said the backup Magic Three Words instead of the more obvious Magic Three Words. But it seems to me that the backup words would still get the job done.

If Bogle said “I’m” and “Not” and “Sure” and it were written up on the front page of the New York Times, it would be pretty darn hard for Lindauer to continue to argue that a ban on honest posting is needed at the Bogleheads Forum. And, once the ban is lifted, we would have hundreds of posters jump in and help us out on all sorts of topics. The crazy idea of speaking honestly on investing questions would spread and spread. My guess is that in not too much time we would be in the same wonderful spot we would have gotten to a bit quicker if he chose the more direct route.

I think the New School studies are the answer. I think The Retirement Risk Evaluator is the answer. But Wade says people are not 100 percent sure at this point. Okay. Shouldn’t we be looking into what is needed to get them to 100 percent? It seems to me that people need to talk over their concerns. That’s how we handle it in other fields of human endeavor when we have people who we need to get up to 100 percent sure who are not at the moment at 100 percent sure. So why not try that in the investing area? Why not talk it over?

We have enough experience in hundreds of other areas of human endeavor to know that talking it over is a good idea.

105) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “I Do Not Think He [Harold Evensky] Goes Nearly Far Enough in Warning People of the Dangers of the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies”

Nothing to add here.

106) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “I Strongly Believe That There Are Things You Must Do and Things You Must Not Do to Protect Your Reputation As An Ethical Person. I Believe Today That There Is Serious Reason to Question Whether You Have Managed to Stay on the Right Side of the Line…. Are You Insane, Man? Please Think!”

I miss the old Wade. I loved that guy!

107) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “I Don’t Have Any Hard Feelings Toward You, But It Is Hard to Have Public Communications With You After All the Attacks You Made Toward Me At Your Blog Following the Bengen Incident…. I Have No Idea What You Mean When You Mention Including Me in Lawsuits, As I’ve Been Nothing But Supportive of You.”

Wade said that I was being “too harsh” to demand that Bengen correct his retirement study after he publicly acknowledged that it gets the numbers wrong. He views my reporting that he said this as an “attack.” It certainly does not reflect well on him. But I want to report very different things. I want to report that Wade is leading an effort to get the Old School studies corrected. How can I report that unless he gets involved? I need some cooperation from the people I write articles about if I am to put them in the good light into which I very much want to put them!

How does life get so complicated?

108) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “People Cannot Live In This Sort of Dishonesty Forever. What We Are Going Through Is a Temporary State. It Will Change After the Next Crash. Then Things Will Be Flipped. There Will Be Lots of Angry People Demanding the Heads of Those Who Failed to Speak Up And I Will Be the One Asking for Mercy and Asking People to Understand the Pressures That People In This Field Faced.”

My job today is to get the Ban on Honest Posting lifted so that good things can start happening for all of us. My job tomorrow will be to keep people from losing their heads when they learn how much the 10-year cover-up has hurt them. Under-reaction is the problem today. Over-reaction will be the problem tomorrow.

109) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “The Reason I Contacted Them [the Authors of the Trinity Study, an Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Study) Was To List Some Concern I Had (Valuations, Fees, 30-Year Time-Period) About Whether the Results of Their Study Are Applicable for Recent Retirees. I DIdn’t Think the Trinity Study Is Helpful for Recent Retirees. Now, I Think Even More Strongly Than Before That the Trinity Study Is Not Helpful.”

Wade doesn’t think the Trinity study is helpful for recent retirees. Why, then, does he not support efforts to get the study corrected? Shouldn’t the idea be to publish helpful retirement research?

110) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “You Feel That I Am Questioning Your Ethics. I Am! Not Just Yours, Though. I Am Questioning the Ethics of Every Person Who Has Seen That Those Studies Have Not Been Corrected and Has Failed to Do Anything About It. The Entire Field Is Corrupt, Wade.”

This is an important point.

Wade has obviously behaved unethically.

But one of the ways in which we ordinarily assess whether behavior is unethical or not is by looking at standard industry practice. Would it not be fair to say that it has become standard industry practice during the Buy-and-Hold Era to behave unethically? I reported on the errors in the Old School studies on May 13, 2002. I have tried hard to get the studies corrected for 10 years. I have been able to bring about a consensus in the field that the studies are in error (even this was in dispute in May 2002). But I have not to this day been able to translate the virtually universal consensus that the studies get the retirements numbers wildly wrong into anything like a universal consensus that they should be corrected.

I think it would be fair to say that many in this field are suffering from cognitive dissonance.

Cognitive dissonance can be used to excuse the advocacy of Buy-and-Hold strategies, in my assessment. But can cognitive dissonance be used to excuse death threats or defamation or unjustified board bannings or threats to get academic researchers fired from their jobs for the “crime” of doing honest research?

These are questions that we are going to need to answer as a society. We will need to assess whether we believe that middle-class investors have a need to have access to honest and accurate and realistic investment research. I very strongly believe that we need to move in the direction of permitting honest research to be performed and published and widely promoted. My view is that honest posting on the internet should not only be permitted but widely encouraged.

But then I often forget to take my meds! Everybody knows it too!

111) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “The Role of Valuations in Affecting Safe Withdrawal Rates Will Definitely Find Its Way Into the Retirement Management Analyst Curriculum…. As I Am in the Early Stages of Hoping to Return to a Job in the United States, I Do Request That You Tone Down a Bit Whatever You Will Be Writing About Me. I Am Just Concerned About What Potential Employers May See When They Google My Name.”

It is certainly good to hear that Wade will be seeing to it that some discussion of the effect of valuations will be included in the Retirement Management Analyst Curriculum. I have concerns that the materials that he suggests to have included in the curriculum will not address the question in a sufficiently clear manner. The statement “Any retirement study that does not account for the effect of the valuation level that applies on the day the retirement begins is dangerous and needs to be promptly corrected” is clear. My sense is that this is the kind of statement that Wade does not feel comfortable putting forward today. A statement of that nature reflects poorly on those who participated or tolerated the 10-year-long cover-up of my discovery of the errors in the Old School studies and will thus be viewed today by some as “controversial.” I look forward to the day when it will be the labeling of such a statement as “controversial” that will be viewed as controversial!

112) Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “The Issue of Your Job Search Is NOT Entirely Private. It Goes to Motive… It Is of the Utmost Importance That We Make Clear to People WHY So Many Experts Fail to Speak Out Against Buy-and-Hold 30 Years After the Academic Research Showed That There Is Zero Chance That It Will Work for Any Long-Term Investor”

Tens of thousands of businesses have failed in the Buy-and-Hold Crisis. Millions of workers have lost their jobs. Those people matter. Those in the investing advice field need to consider the effect of their advice on their readers and clients.

113) Morningstar Site Administrator: “Please Direct Us to the Specific Posting Where You Were Threatened With Violence By Another Morningstar Poster”

114) Rob Bennett to Morningstar Site Administrator: “The Greaney Supporters Openly Discuss Tactics for Disrupting Morningstar Threads…. They Have Taken Comfort in Posts by Mel [Lindauer]”

115) Rob Bennett to the Morningstar.com Site Administrator: “A Poster Named ‘Galeno’ [This Was Greaney’s #1 Supporter on the Board] Put Forward Four Consecutive Posts Rejecting Out of HAnd the Idea of Substantive Discussion and Putting Forward Threats of Physical Violence Against Me. One Was a Threat to Come to My House with a Baseball Bat to Kill My Wife and Children.”

116) Morningstar Site Administrator to Rob Bennett: “If the Post Where You Were Threatened Did Not Occur on the Morningstar Boards, Then Why Bring It Back to Life on the Morningstar Boards?…. Consider This a Formal Warning.”

117) Ed Rager, Mel Lindauer and Taylor Larimore to Rob Bennett: “You’ve Constantly Misquoted, Distorted and Disrespected Jack Bogle and Bill Bernstein. Your Latest Post ‘Jack Bogle’s Big Mistake’ Was, in Our Opinion, the Final Straw. Jack and Bill Both Join Us at Our Private Events Because They Enjoy Meeting with Friendly, Like-Minded Diehards in a Relaxed and Secure Atmosphere…. You Will Not Be Allowed to Attend.”

118) Purcellville Police Warned of Possible SWAT-ing Attacks by Goon ‘Defenders’ of Mel Lindauer and John Greaney

119) Academic Researcher Wade Pfau’s Responses to My Reporting of Out 16 Months of E-Mail Correspondence

120) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #1 — Wade Pfau Is a Smart and Brave and Generous Man Who Has Published Research Worthy of a Nobel Prize

121) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #2 — “I Really Don’t Know How You Think You Come Out of This Whole Episode Looking Like the Good Guy”

122) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #3 — Those Infuriating Peer Review Reports That Crushed Wade’s Hopes of Revolutionizing the Field of Investment Research

123) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #4 — The Safe Withdrawal Rate Concept Is Here to Stay

124) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #5 — “It’s So Implausible”

125) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #6 — The Investing Advice Field Is Today 100 Percent Corrupt

126) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #7 — Will the Power and Wealth of The Stock-Selling Industry Be Employed to Crush Me Through Lawsuits?

127) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #8 — What Caused Good Guy Wade to Do Such a Horribly Bad Thing?

128) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #9 — The Ten-Year Saga Demonstrates the Power (and Risks) of the New Internet Communications Medium

129) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #10 — Brief Responses to Miscellaneous Points

130) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #11 — Many of Today’s Investing Advisors Are Positioning Themselves for the Post-Buy-and-Hold Era

131) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #12 — We Need to Attack the Valuations Topic Head On

132) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #13 — The Ten-Year Cover-Up of the Errors in the Old School Safe-Withdrawal-Rate Studies Is the Biggest Economic and Political Story of Our Time

133) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #14 — This Is Not Primarily an Investing Story, It Is Primarily a Political Story

134) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #15 — No Apologies?

135) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #16 — The Secret to Solving the Entire Mystery

136) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #17 — How Valuation-Informed Indexing Will Reach Its Tipping Point

137) Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #18 — The Problem Is That Not One Buy-and-Holder Today Has Confidence in Buy-and-Hold

138) Corruption in the Investing Advice Field (No Link Because You’re Reading It Now!)

139) Academic Researcher Silenced by Threats to Get Him Fired From His Job After Showing Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies

140) Academic Researcher Silenced by Threats to Get Him Fired From His Job After Showing Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies — Teaser Version

 

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Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #14 — This Is Not Primarily an Investing Story, It Is Primarily a Political Story

August 1, 2012 by Rob

Response Article #13 argued that the ten-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School safe-withdrawal rate studies is the biggest news story of my lifetime (I’m 55). It sure hasn’t gotten that kind of play. What’s up?

People are expecting the story to be an investing story or perhaps an economics story. It is both of those. But at its core this is a political story. I say nothing “controversial” in any intellectual sense when I say that researchers need to take the valuation level that applies at the beginning of a retirement into consideration when calculating the safe withdrawal rate that applies for that retirement. This is an obvious implication of the research published by Yale University Economics Professor Robert Shiller in 1981. Everyone knows that you need to consider valuations.But no one does it. Why does no one do what everyone knows always must be done? That’s the meat of the story. Answering that one requires making reference to how The Stock-Selling Industry makes use of its power and money and influence and contacts in an effort to keep the Buy-and-Hold investing strategy alive another day, another week, another month, another year. That aspect of the story is political in nature.

Listed below are ten political questions that reporters covering this story need to address in their reports.

1) Why does Robert Shiller’s “revolutionary” book Irrational Exuberance not tell investors what to do? Shiller is masterful in describing the theory behind Valuation-Informed Indexing. But why does he not address the practical questions that are of greatest concern to most investors. It is politically incorrect to do so today? This is the line that may not be crossed. I have been told by the Goons on many occasions that it is not what I say that inflames them but how I say it. What they mean is that my criticisms of Buy-and-Hold are rooted in objective findings, not subjective impressions. I don’t say that I personally favor the use of a withdrawal rate lower than 4 percent for retirements that began at the top of the bubble. I say that the academic research in this field shows that the withdrawal rate for those retirements is 1.6 percent. That’s a far more powerful criticism. No one can prove the value of a subjective impression. Numbers can be checked. Every researcher who has employed an analytically valid methodology to identify the SWR that applied at the top of the bubble has generated a number close to 1.6 percent. No one has generated a number anything close to 4 percent. That’s because the 4 percent number is wrong. 

Buy-and-Holders have no objection to people saying that they follow strategies other than Buy-and-Hold. They are intolerant of objective statements showing that their investing strategy never works in the long run. Buy-and-Hold is a marketing gimmick. The Stock-Selling Industry has always pushed Get Rich Quick investing schemes. The first rule of marketing is that people buy when you form an emotional connection with them. There is nothing that makes stock investors love you more than putting forward claims seeming to show that their Get Rich Quick dreams can come true. It never works out but such claims possess huge marketing appeal during out-of-control bull markets. There is obviously nothing wrong with those trying to sell stocks making such claims. Using puffery to sell stuff is part of how our economic system works.

But Buy-and-Hold advocates claim that their strategy is beyond puffery. They claim that the idea that there is no need for investors to adjust their stock allocations downward when prices rise to insanely dangerous levels is supported by research. This goes beyond the normal sort of puffery. This claim is demonstrably false. There is 30 years of academic research showing that stocks are more risky when prices are high. So investors who fail to adjust their stock allocations are permitting their risk levels to go wildly out of whack. That’s dangerous stuff and a good argument can be made that it is against public policy for “experts” in this field to advance such claims. We all lose when millions of middle-class investors see large portions of their retirement savings disappear and thus become unwilling to spend at earlier levels on goods and services; a broad unwillingness to spend always brings on an economic crisis. But even this could be tolerated so long as it remained possible for those seeking to offer better-informed and more realistic investing advice to challenge the claims of the Get Rich Quickers/Buy-and-Holders.

The Buy-and-Holders have gone a step further in their ten-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School SWR studies. They have put forward death threats. They have advanced tens of thousands of defamatory posts. They have demanded unjustified board bannings. They have threatened to get an academic researcher fired from his job. Wade Pfau described what he experienced when he posted at the Bogleheads Forum as a “hostile atmosphere.” It’s not just that Mel Lindauer (co-author of the Book The Bogleheads Guide to Investing) accused Wade of unethical research practices when Wade posted his breakthrough research findings at the board. It is that no one other than Wade objected when he did so. John Bogle posts at that board but he kept it zipped. Bill Bernstein posts at that board but he kept it zipped. Larry Swedroe posts at that board but he kept it zipped. Rick Ferri posts at that board but he kept it zipped. It became clear to Wade that his reputation would be destroyed is he continued to present research showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing over Buy-and-Hold and to state his honest belief that retirement studies that get the numbers wildly wrong need to be promptly corrected.

The Stock-Selling Industry today is like Penn State in the years when the Sandusky scandal was being hushed up. Lots of people want to talk. All know that to talk means career death. The investing advice field is today 100 percent corrupt. To fix the problem, we need to have big-name people speak out. Had Wade knew that there were big-name people who would speak out against the abusive posting practices of those who have posted in “defense” of Lindauer and Greaney, he would never have given ten seconds of consideration to flipping. Wade is responsible for two small children. No academic researcher responsible for two small children should be placed in the circumstances in which he was placed. No academic researcher should be forced to choose between doing his job with integrity or being able to make a living in his chosen field. Wade and all others in this field should be able to do both. That won’t be possible until the Campaign of Terror against our board and blog communities has come to a full and complete stop and posts pointing out the dangers of Buy-and-Hold strategies have become so commonplace that no one sees anything even the slightest bit “controversial” about them.

2) Why does the book The Myth of Rational Markets not tell investors how they should change their investing strategies now that the Efficient Market Hypothesis has been discredited? Shiller’s is not the only important book addressing these matters that strangely fails to address itself to the practical question of how to invest given what we have learned over the past three decades. You see the same thing in the book The Myth of Rational Markets. The book does a great job of explaining why the mistakes that made Buy-and-Hold so dangerous a strategy were made in the first place. We didn’t know it all. As we learn more, we need to make changes. Surprise! Surprise! Again, though, the book cops out on the question of how our investing strategies need to change now that we know what we have learned over the past 30 years. That’s what Wade Pfau’s research told us. That’s why Wade Pfau was singled out for “special treatment.” That’s why Wade Pfau has announced that he will no longer be doing research on the “controversial” question of whether Valuation-Informed Indexing has given superior results to Buy-and-Hold for the entire 140 years of stock market history now available to us.

We need to have these practical questions answered. We cannot even begin to answer them in a definitive way until we hear from hundreds if not thousands of people. We cannot hear from any until we make it clear to all that reporting on the 140 years of historical data showing that Buy-and-Hold has never worked well for any long-term investor is no crime against the state. Or is it?

3) What needs to be done to launch a national debate on the question of whether Buy-and-Hold or Valuation-Informed Indexing is superior?  I have been saying for years now that the obvious way to bring the Campaign of Terror to an end is for John Bogle to give a speech in which he acknowledges that he was wrong about long-term timing (he said that it never works but the research shows that it always works) and for the New York Times to report on the speech on its front page. That would do it. I have had many middle-class investors tell me that the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept makes perfect sense to them but that they feel that, given that it is their retirement money that is at stake, they must place their confidence in “experts.” Bogle is the most respected expert in the eyes of middle-class investors. If Bogle were to acknowledge that long-term timing always works and in fact is required for those seeking a realistic chance of long-term investing success, that would trigger a national debate on the merits of Valuation-Informed Indexing. People are very interested in these questions. Hundreds of my fellow investors have told me so. But people are afraid to violate social taboos. People need reassurance that it is “okay” to talk about these matters.

4) To what extent did Bogle or other “experts” encourage the Campaign of Terror against our board communities? I have sent two e-mails to Bogle asking for his help in getting Lindauer banned from the Bogleheads Forum. He has not responded. This sends the worst possible signal to all my fellow community members. Say that Bogle were the head of a used-car lot and that he became aware that there were people using his name who engaged in all sorts of low practices of deception and defamation and intimidation. Would he not act quickly to see that the nonsense stopped so that further damage was not done to his good name? Bogle has not acted. It’s worse than that. Lindauer has suggested that he has Bogle’s support. He has said that “higher-ups” at Vanguard read the board on a regular basis and know what goes on there. The unspoken suggestion is that since Lindauer has not yet been banned, there are some powerful people who are just fine with the tactics he employs to intimidate those posting in opposition to Buy-and-Hold strategies. These things get noticed by the members of a board posting community. Those with bigger names have greater responsibilities than those with smaller names. Bogle should have disassociated himself from the Lindauerheads a long, long time ago. Why hasn’t he?

5) Do site owners have responsibilities to honor the promises they use to attract good posters to their discussion boards? I was the most popular poster at the Motley Fool site on the morning of May 13, 2002. I had built the site’s Retire Early board into the most successful board in the site’s history. The co-founder of the site thought so highly of my work that he wrote one of the blurbs that appears on the back of my book Passion Saving. Motley Fool hired me to teach its online retirement planning course. Motley Fool charges for admission to its boards and runs advertising at its boards. So my work brought money to the owners of Motley Fool. Motley Fool promised in its published site rules to protect me from the sorts of individuals who employ death threats and defamation and long-running smear campaigns to silence posters who offer views at odds with their own. When John Greaney threatened to kill my wife and children to stop me from posting honestly on the SWR matter, Motley Fool’s response was not to ban Greaney but to ban me. Greaney cited the ban at scores of other sites as evidence that I should not be permitted to post.

This general pattern has been repeated at many boards and blogs (Get Rich Quick investing strategies are insanely popular for so long as prices remain high). I have not been able to build my internet writing business for ten years because Greaney and his Goon Squad follow me to every site at which I post and intimidate community members who post in support of me and site owners who permit me to post. What are the responsibilities of internet site owners who post published rules not permitting defamation and intimidation on their sites but who either permit it or even encourage it by posters promoting Get Rich Quick investing schemes?

6) Why have so few (if any!) identified the obvious true cause of the economic crisis? I have been writing about the true cause of the economic crisis since before it happened. Yes, before! All Valuation-Informed Indexers saw it coming. We have had four economic crises since 1870 and each and every one of them was preceded by a P/E10 level of 25 or greater. Runaway bull markets always cause economic crises. It’s not even a tiny bit hard to understand why. Stocks were overpriced by $12 trillion in 2000. Reversion to the Mean is an “Iron Law” of stock investing — John Bogle, hardly an individual biased against Buy-and-Hold, says this! So we knew in 2000 that sometime before the end of the first decade of the new Century, $12 trillion of spending power would be disappearing from our economy. When millions of consumers see their retirement dreams deferred, they become afraid to spend money on goods and services. Tens of thousands of businesses fail. Millions lose their jobs.

Is this not a public policy issue? Only the biggest of our time! And yet who is writing about it? Valuation-Informed Indexing shows us how to avoid future economic crises. No investor wants to invest ineffectively. If we could show investors how much higher the returns are for Valuation-Informed Indexers and how much lower the risks are for Valuation-Informed Indexers, all investors would lower their stock allocations when prices first showed signs of getting out of control. That would bring prices down! So they would never actually get out of control! Stock valuations are self-correcting in a world in which those who have studied the academic research are free to report on what they have learned without needing to fear that their reputations and careers will be destroyed by Buy-and-Hold dogmatics.

It turns out that University of Chicago Economics Professor Eugene Fama was not so wrong. It was Fama who argued that the market is efficient (that is, priced properly) because all investors look for imbalances and quickly exploit them when they identify them. What Fama missed was the Campaign of Terror. People who understand the research do not tell others what they know so long as the penalties for doing so are as severe as they have become during the Buy-and-Hold Era. But there is every reason to believe that, once we do something about the death threats and the defamation and the board bannings and the threats to get people fired from their jobs , all this will change. This is a money field. Permit people to make money offering sound investing advice and thousands of new businesses will be formed to take advantage of the opportunity. But those promoting alternatives to Buy-and-Hold cannot succeed so long as the Buy-and-Holders have a monopoly on the academic research. The data supports Valuation-Informed Indexing, not Buy-and-Hold, and we need to be able to have researchers like Wade Pfau use his talents to educate millions of investors as to the realities without feeling that he is putting his career at risk by doing so.

7) How do we avoid the Second Great Depression? From the standpoint of those who are familiar with the message of the past 30 years of academic research, the response of policymakers to the economic crisis has been frighteningly inappropriate. Why is it that every runaway bull market has caused a series of price crashes that eventually brought the P/E10 level down to 8 or lower (one-half of fair value)? There is no rational reason why prices should fall to one-half of fair value. Prices must fall to fair-value levels for the market to continue to function. That drop makes sense. But why do prices continue to fall until they hit levels of one-half of fair value?

This question is of critical importance. The P/E10 level today is 22. If we fall to 15 (fair value), we will all be taking a big hit. But if we stabilize at 15, we may make it out of this economic crisis without it becoming the Second Great Depression. A drop all the way down to 7 or 8 would be catastrophic. That would represent a price drop of two-thirds from today’s levels. And that price drop would hit with much greater force than the price drop we experienced in 2008. In 2008, most of us had some slack in our budgets. The hit we took to our retirement accounts hurt. But most of us found ways we could cut back on spending and at least maintain some hope that we will be able to retire at a reasonable age. There’s no slack in most family budgets today. A 65 percent hit today would wipe many of us out. It would be emotionally devastating. So policymakers need to focus on the question — How do we stop prices from continuing to fall not just to fair-value levels but all the way down to one-half of fair-value levels?

This is a silly question to those who believe in the Buy-and-Hold Model. The Buy-and-Hold Model posits that prices are determined by each day’s unexpected  economic and political developments (the effect of anticipated developments is priced in at the time the developments come to be anticipated). There’s obviously nothing we can do to affect what sorts of unexpected economic and political developments turn up in coming days. So Buy-and-Holders are not focused on avoiding a drop to price levels of one-half of fair value. And, indeed, no policymakers are talking about this question today.

It is essential that they begin talking about it. If we fall to price levels of one-half of fair value, we will enter the Second Great Depression. If we stabilize at fair-value prices, we can avoid the Second Great Depression. There is no more urgently important public policy question before us today.

Valuation-Informed Indexing posits that prices are determined primarily by investor emotions. So irrational price drops CAN be avoided. How? Be addressing the irrationality that would otherwise cause them to take place. We need to look at the investor psychology that causes prices to drop so low in the wake of huge bulls and change it. 

The reason why investors become so depressed about their futures in the wake of huge bulls is that the money they were expecting to be able to retire on was phony and seeing it disappear is a mighty discouraging experience. At the top of the bull, stocks were priced at three times fair value. Prices stopped falling at the end of all earlier bears only when they dropped to one-half of fair value. Going from 3x (where “x” is the fair value of one’s portfolio) to .5x means losing five-sixths of the accumulated wealth of a lifetime. Is it any wonder that most investors become depressed in the wake of runaway bulls?

We need to tell investors the truth about stock investing. Once investors come to understand that there is 30 years of academic research showing that the prices achieved at the top of runaway bulls are not real, they will come to understand that the prices achieved at the end of runaway bears are not real either. It is insane for us to let stock prices fall to levels representing one-half of fair value. Why would we want to price our retirement portfolios at LESS than their real value (pricing them at more than their fair value is not a good idea but at least it makes sense from a short-term-thinking standpoint — pricing portfolios at lower than their fair value is truly crazy even if it has been a reality of every runaway bear in U.S. history).

Warren Buffett and John Bogle and Eugene Fama were telling investors to remain heavily invested in the stock market in the wake of the 2008 crash. That was bad advice. It is the standard Buy-and-Hold line, of course. But it is the wrong thing for investors to do. No, you don’t want to sell when prices are low. But guess what? Prices were not low following the crash. For most of the time that Buffett and Bogle and Fama were giving that advice, stocks were priced well above fair value levels. Prices dropped in the crash from the insanely high levels that had applied for many years but only for a very brief time-period (a few months) did they drop low enough to justify claims that they were fairly priced (it made sense to buy during that brief time-period). Today stocks are priced very high. Investors who buy at these levels should not be expecting good long-term returns. It is irresponsible for leaders in this field to encourage investors to once again buy overpriced stocks and thereby set themselves up for yet another big upset to their retirement plans.

Investors need to know the score. When you buy stocks at good prices, you get good returns. When you buy stocks at poor prices, you get poor returns. We need to get the word out on that. When prices first drop below fair-value levels, it is going to be imperative that we persuade investors that stocks finally represent a good buy, If the experts have been telling them that stocks always represent a good buy and they have seen with their own eyes that this claim is nonsense, they are going to tune out the message that they should buy stocks once prices drop below fair-value levels. We need to get the message out about how stock investing really works before we are at serious risk of seeing the price drop that will put us into the Second Great Depression. Investors will be extremely distrustful once things get to that point and will tune out even messages truly rooted in the academic research.

If we end up in the Second Great Depression, it will be because we did not abandon the Buy-and-Hold dogmas that have now caused four economic crises. We had an excuse the three earlier times. We didn’t have academic research teaching us the realities on those earlier occasions. Now we do. We should make use of it. Policymakers should be doing everything in their power to prepare investors for the price drops still to come and to explain to them why a drop to fair-value price levels is necessary and good but a drop to levels far below fair-value price levels is neither necessary or good.

8) Why do financial journalists not point out inconsistencies in statements by experts in this field? Journalists hold politicians’ feet to the fire. That’s the job. Voters need to know whether politicians are shooting straight with them or not.

Unfortunately, this practice is rarely followed in the investing field. Journalists in this area too often play the role of stenographers and happily report the words of investing “experts” as if they were filled with insight when the reality is that the statements are full of holes or even self-contradictory.

I’ll give a few examples.

Bogle has said that not only does he not know anyone who has successfully timed the market, he does not know anyone who knows anyone who has successfully timed the market. Cute. But Bogle has said in interviews that he himself successfully timed the market in 2000. He saw that stocks were priced too high, he lowered his stock allocation dramatically as a result, and he profited handsomely by doing so. You can’t recommend long-term market timing at the Bogleheads Forum even though there’s 30 years of academic research showing that those who engage in long-term timing earn far higher returns while taking on dramatically reduced risks. Yet the guy whose name is used in the board title follows the practice. This does not make sense.

Bill Bernstein (The Four Pillars of Stock Investing) has said that he does not view the Old School safe-withdrawal-rate studies as analytically valid. “Of course they are analytically valid!” he said when asked the question. But Bernstein then added that anyone who would use one of the Old School SWR studies to plan a retirement would be well-advised to “FuhDedDaBouDit!” Huh? Isn’t that what the phrase “analytically invalid” means? That the study uses such a bogus methodology that it would be dangerous for investors to place any confidence in its conclusions? Isn’t it the job of investing experts to warn their readers and clients about such studies? Why pretend that dangerous studies are analytically valid all the same? It’s this Old Boy’s Club way of doing business that brought on the losses that caused the economic crisis.

9. How will damages for the ten-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School retirement studies be paid? It’s hard for me to figure out what the motivation is for The Stock-Selling Industry to continue its cover-up of the errors in the Old School studies. I believe that in the early days it was mostly pride. People in this field like to give the impression that they are on top of things and acknowledging mistakes undercuts that impression (i don’t think this is strictly so, I respect people who acknowledge mistakes, but I believe that many in this field see it as a bad thing to acknowledge mistakes). But I don’t see how there would have been much risk of lawsuits had the studies been corrected when the errors in them first became publicly known (May 2002). The mistakes were rooted in a perfectly understandable analytical error that was made by lots of good and smart people and stock prices had not fallen much from their highs at the time. So retirees who had made bad investment choices because of the incorrect numbers reported in the studies could have at least partially recovered from the damage done.

The situation is different today. Today we are looking at the possibility of millions of failed retirements. This will be one of the worst social crises we have ever faced as a nation. And there is a ten-year record of posts showing the extreme efforts (including death threats!) of the Buy-and-Holders to cover up the errors. Lawsuit city! It’s hard for me to imagine that enterprising lawyers are not going to start bringing lawsuits after the next price crash disabuses the investors who today are trying to maintain confidence that Buy-and-Hold can work from any such notions. It’s not hard to imagine that the total damages awarded could be in the hundreds of billions of dollars.

Can the Stock-Selling Industry handle liabilities of that size? The liabilities could be even larger if lawsuits are also brought because of industry efforts to block the spread of knowledge of Valuation-Informed Indexing. There the liabilities could be in the trillions. The industry almost certainly cannot handle liabilities of that size.

Are we going to see more bailouts? Will there be congressional hearings on how this all happened? What policies will be adopted to insure that nothing like this ever happens again?

These are important public policy questions.

10. How will we get the word out about the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept? Millions of workers today finance their retirements largely thought investments in the stock market. If those people cannot obtain access to accurate and realistic guidance because of an industry too ego-obssessed to acknowledge its mistakes and too greed-infested to resist the temptation to push Get Rich Quick strategies over research-supported ones and too power-mad to speak out against vicious intimidation tactics employed by the gooniest of the internet goons among us, we have not just an investing problem on our hands but a political problem. People who invest in the stock market to finance their retirements will lose confidence in our political system if they find out that good information on how to invest for the long term has been held back from them for three decades. And this is of course precisely what has happened.

We could all get depressed worrying about these negative possibilities.

You know what? The transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing is going to bring on the greatest period of economic growth we have ever seen. Buy-and-Hold was a huge advance over what came before it. Valuation-Informed Indexing is an even bigger advance. Ours is a dynamic society. The story of the ten-year Campaign of Terror against our board and blog communities is a story at odds with our most fundamental social norms. Working together, we are going to find a way around the obstacles this industry has placed in our path. The industry leaders will come around. They will help us spread the word about the new investing strategies far and wide, creatively and effectively.

The nasty stuff that held us back for so long will get blown away in the wind. It is the wonderful insights that we developed together (with important contributions made by Valuation-Informed Indexers and Buy-and-Holders alike) that will be around for decades. The story of how we will pick ourselves up from the damage done during the Buy-and-Hold years and move on to our most productive and enriching days of all is a political story too. It is the way we do things. We are a rich nation because we have mastered the art of creative destruction. We will bury Buy-and-Hold 30 feet in the ground, where it can no longer do harm to humans and other living things, because we must bury Buy-and-Hold 30 feet in the ground, where it can no longer do harm to humans and other living things. We will move confidently into the better future that awaits us.

Until the next time the humans mess up something awful!

 

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: financial fraud, Joe Paterno, Sandusky, scandal

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #12 — We Need to Attack the Valuations Topic Head On

July 30, 2012 by Rob

Wade believes in Valuation-Informed Indexing. He was dancing around like a kid on Christmas morning in his e-mail correspondence with me. He said in a post at the Bogleheads Forum that he was going to put what he learned from his correspondence with me to personal use by following a Valuation-Informed Indexing strategy himself. Face in, Goons! This guy’s a believer!

But the word on the street is that some sort of rift has developed between Wade and Old Farmer Hocus. What’s the deal?

Wade found out that the world’s first true research-based stock investing strategy is controversial. The Old Boy’s Club hates it because it’s death for Buy-and-Hold if the plebes find out what the last 30 years of academic research really says about how stock investing works in the long run. And the plebes don’t generally get too excited about the idea either. They’ve been taken and it hurts to find out you have been taken. They’re in denial and there’s not much of a buck to be made today telling them the news.

Wade still believes, though. And it really is true that he is a good guy who wants to do fine research that helps people. He’s not going to promote the in-your-face version of Valuation-Informed Indexing that I push. But he’s not abandoning the general concept. His plan is to push a softer version of Valuation-Informed Indexing, a VII Light. His aim is to avoid setting people off by incorporating valuations adjustments into his work in ways that don’t draw attention to themselves. People will be eating their spinach. But it will be mixed in with chocolate ice cream so they won’t notice it so much.

It’s not a totally bad idea. There is no one who has ever participated in our discussions who I respected more than John Walter Russell and he used to try to do things along these lines. I’ve been banned at every major investing discussion board at which I have ever posted. John did the research that supports the Valuation-Informed Indexing strategy I espouse. And John was never once banned! Hey! Maybe he understood something about human interactions that I do not. Maybe Wade is on the right track and I should just lay off the poor guy.

Maybe.

But I don’t think so.

It’s good to try to get along with people. I believe that 100 percent. And I have done a lot of things that in ordinary circumstances would help me get along with the Buy-and-Holders. I have praised the Buy-and-Hold concept to the skies (there would be no Valuation-Informed Indexing had Buy-and-Hold not come before it — powerful Buy-and-Hold insights provide the foundation for all my work). I have said that I do not believe that the mistake the Buy-and-Holders made re long-term timing was intentional (there’s no evidence that it was and a good bit of evidence that cuts the other way). I have said that I believe that the Buy-and-Holders are sincere in their recommendations of Buy-and-Hold (it is possible for humans suffering the effects of cognitive dissonance to ignore the 30 years of research showing that it cannot work in the long run). I have said that the Buy-and-Holders are smart and good and hard-working and nice people. I believe all those things. So, to the extent that saying those things could win me some favor with the Buy-and-Holders, I am of course happy to say them.

In ten years of discussions, never once has saying any of those sorts of things won me a tiny bit of openness or tolerance or kindness from the Buy-and-Holders. They are not looking for warm words or kind words or sympathetic words. They are looking for something else.

They have never told me precisely what they are looking for. But they have dropped some pretty darn clear hints. The message that has been delivered to me on numerous occasions is: It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it.

If I said things the way John said them, I would not have been banned. If I said things the way Wade now says them, I would not have been banned.

You are allowed to say “I don’t feel comfortable going with a high stock allocation.” You are allowed to say “valuations matter.” You are allowed to say “I am not going to take a 4 percent withdrawal.” You are allowed to say “I am worried that stock prices are going to fall.”

The types of things that I say that you are not allowed to say are: (1) Buy-and-Hold is a Get Rich Quick scheme; (2) The Old School SWR studies get the numbers wildly wrong; (3) The relentless promotion of Buy-and-Hold strategies was the primary cause of the economic crisis; (4) The errors in the Old School SWR studies need to be corrected; (5) Shiller’s research shows that there is precisely zero chance of Buy-and-Hold working for any long-term investor; and (6) Stocks are priced today for a 65 percent price drop.

These are strong statements. I’ll give them that.

Many people, including people who do not think of themselves as Buy-and-Holders, view these statements as rude. They’ve told me so.

As someone who likes to get along with people and who hates to think of himself as someone who indulges in rudeness, I have some sympathy for why Wade would want to try a softer approach to encouraging people to follow Valuation-Informed Indexing strategy than the one I follow.

That said, I cannot in good conscience follow the path Wade has chosen for himself. I think it is important that Buy-and-Holders hear these truths and that they hear them unvarnished.

Consider what I said about the Buy-and-Holders being good and smart people. Consider that statement in connection with my claim that it was the relentless promotion of Buy-and-Hold strategies that served as the primary cause of the economic crisis. Do you see the disconnect? Good and smart people don’t go around doing things that cause economic crises. So why did the Buy-ad-Holders do it? Because they didn’t know. Why didn’t they know? Because all of us who know are so worried that saying what we know in clear and firm and uncompromising language will hurt their feelings that we avoid telling them what they need to know to do what they would want to do as good and smart people if only they knew.

No one wants to invest ineffectively. No one wants others to invest ineffectively. No one wants to cause an economic crisis. Teaching people about Valuation-Informed Indexing should be easy. People should be lined up for blocks around to get into talks to hear more about it. Valuation-Informed Indexing is a wonderful advance in about 50 different ways. This shouldn’t be so hard. This should be easy.

I’ve never had any problem making the intellectual case for Valuation-Informed Indexing. The intellectual case is so strong that it is simply undeniable. That’s the problem. The resistance to the idea is emotional. It hurts Buy-and-Holders deeply for them to learn that they have been following a Get Rich Quick scheme for years. They do not want to hear this. They block out the information. They seek to ban the fellow giving voice to the information, however polite he might be or however many warm words he might add to the mix when conveying that information.

Consider the argument about the economic crisis. Nothing could be more obvious than my point that Buy-and-Hold caused the economic crisis. Stocks were overpriced by $12 trillion in 2000. Stocks always return to fair-value price levels in about 10 years. So we knew in 2000 that over the course of the next 10 years something close to $12 trillion of spending power was going to be removed from our economy. An economy that loses $12 trillion of spending power collapses. There is no way to imagine any other possible outcome. The economic crisis was assured when we permitted stocks to reach the price levels they reached in the late 1990s.

How many times have you heard anyone other than Rob Bennett blame the economic crisis on the Buy-and-Hold investing strategy (Buy-and-Hold teaches that there is no need to lower one’s stock allocation when prices rise to insanely high levels — that’s why prices got so out of hand)? I’ve never heard anyone else say it. I know that lots of people understand the point because I have read the work of many who do and I have spoken to many who do. Why don’t we hear people making this point? Lots of people who understand that Buy-and-Hold can never work are following the path elected by John and Wade.

John and Wade and all these others are nice people. I get why they play it the way they do.

But guess how the Buy-and-Holders respond when I say that Buy-and-Hold caused the economic crisis? They say that that can’t be so because I am the only one saying it!

When people don’t hear an argument being made, they assume that that is because there is not much to the argument. When John and Wade and all the others elect not to hurt the feelings of the Buy-and-Holders by not telling them things they very much need to know (we are all worried about the economic crisis and we all need to know what caused it to have any realistic hope of bringing it to an end), they hurt the Buy-and-Holders in a different way. We tell our friends things they need to know. When we don’t tell the Buy-and-Holders things they need to know, we leave them in ignorance. Friends don’t do that to friends.

We are going to hurt the Buy-and-Holders one way or the other. Tell them the truth and we hurt their feelings. Hold back from telling them the truth and we will cause them to suffer huge financial losses. Isn’t there some rudeness in that too? The soft way of telling the story ends up having some unanticipated hard edges to it.

If the people who developed the Buy-and-Hold Model had gotten things just a little wrong, there would be no problem. We would make note of the problem and they would fix it. Easy, peasy. Our problem is that the error made by the people who developed the Buy-and-Hold Model was not small thing. It was a gigantic error, an error big enough to cause millions of middle-class people to suffer failed retirements somewhere down the line. We are doing the Buy-and-Holders no kindness by letting it slide. They do not want to cause millions of failed retirements and they do not want to suffer failed retirements themselves. They object when we tell them the truth. But there is part of every Buy-and-Holder that thirsts for the truth, that wants to be treated with respect and that wants to be forced to cope with the realities however unsettling they are on first hearing.

The soft approach will never reach the Buy-and-Holders. They are master rationalizers. It was ten years ago that I put up the post pointing out the errors in the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies and not one of those studies has been corrected to this day. This is not a group that responds well to soft approaches.

Now —

I’ve tried hitting the Buy-and-Holders over the head with what the academic research of the past 30 years says about stock investing and that approach has not exactly lit up the sky in fireworks either. I don’t say that what I have done has been a big success. Still, I think the direct approach holds more promise. An approach more direct than mine waits on the horizon. If no one other than me gets about the business of telling the truth to the Buy-and-Holders soon, they are going to be seeing Truth with a capital T making a showing on the final line on the final page of their portfolio statements. Now that’s rude! The kinder thing is to tell them what they need to know today to avoid being hit with that rude surprise a bit down the line.

Here’s the good news.

As noted above, the Buy-and-Holders deep in their hearts want to know the truth about stock investing. Remember, they fell in love with Buy-and-Hold because they were drawn to its claims to being a research-backed approach. If we hit them with the truth in creative (and always kind and warm and respectful ways), they will in time hear it. I have seen this magic happen. Not often enough for my tastes, but I have seen it happen. I am sure that, if more of us worked together to deliver the message more forcefully than we have so far, we would see it happen more frequently.

Once the idea builds up some momentum, it will start generating some amazing leverage effects.

I’ve told you how Wade was jumping around like a kid on Christmas morning when he learned the realities of stock investing. Wade is not the only academic researcher out there who enjoys that feeling. If more of us got in the habit of delivering the truth about stock investing straight and unvarnished, we would begin to flip some Buy-and-Holders and then the idea of doing that sort of thing would spread and then soon we would have hundreds of Wade Pfaus competing with each other to be the next researcher to put out fresh and amazing stock research.

We would learn and learn and learn and learn. And we would feel better and better and better and better about ourselves.

The Buy-and-Holders are in great emotional pain. The soft approach leaves them in pain. It’s kind only in a surface sense.

When people have come to believe in something terribly wrong and dangerous, their friends should want to see them give it up as soon as possible. If that means saying some things that hit with a bit of a snap, so be it. I’d prefer that the reality were otherwise. But it is what it is. The kind thing is to bring the Buy-and-Hold madness to an end quickly. It is killing us. We are in an economic crisis. We need to act with polite and kind and warm firmness.

 

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: Investor Psychology, Stock Valuations, Wade Pfau

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #11 — Many of Today’s Investing Advisors Are Positioning Themselves for the Post-Buy-and-Hold Era

July 29, 2012 by Rob

I’m going to let you in on a little secret. Ssssh! You must promise not to tell. I will no longer be the golden boy of the Big Shots in The Stock-Selling Industry if this one gets out.

I’m not the only one who has been thinking in recent years about where this industry is headed. Lots of people are having that thought. Buy-and-Hold died intellectually 30 years ago and the only thing that has been keeping it alive for a long, long time was that it had not yet brought on the economic crisis that always follows a time-period when a good number of the rubes buy into the Buy-and-Hold mumbo jumbo. Now that the crisis is here, the smart people are plotting their next move. When the next crash comes, the music stops for the Greatest Get Rich Quick scheme ever concocted by the human mind, Rob Bennett or no Rob Bennett.

Wade asked me about this in one of the response comments he posted to my blog. He said: “Rob, suppose the stock market does drop 65% as you are expecting. It might happen, who knows? Step 1: Stock Market Drops 65%. Step 2: ?? Step 3: Rob wins $500 million settlement from the Goons, the Goons are sent to prison, the investing public learns about and adopts VII. What is Step 2? There isn’t one. You will still be in the same position as you’ve been in for the last 10 years. Why didn’t something happen for you after the 2008 financial crisis? You are like the guy who keeps predicting new ends for the world as each previous prediction date passes by.”

Wade loves Valuation-Informed Indexing. He said it in twenty different ways in his e-mail correspondence with me. So his concern is not that the academic research doesn’t support the new strategy. His concern is that it gets the members of The Old Boy’s Club angry if we spill the beans. Showing that the academic research doesn’t support a strategy that has been marketed as a research-supported strategy hurts the marketing effort. People love jazzy slogans. But they lose their pop when it becomes widely known that they are not rooted in truth.

If things were going to change, he could sit tight for a year or two. But are things going to change? When? How? Can we be sure?

We cannot be sure of anything down here in the Valley of Tears. But my feeble brain tells me that things are going to change. Why? Because they cannot stay the same. There aren’t too many other alternatives.

My sense is that Wade thinks of the problems with Buy-and-Hold as being similar to the problems with the deficit. Smart people keep saying that the deficit is not sustainable. Yet it sustains! Smart politicians don’t offer specific statements on how they would reduce the deficit. Because what you say about reducing the deficit can and will be used against you. And nothing ever happens anyway. So why stick your neck out? The budget deficit issue is referred to on Capitol Hill as The Third Rail of American Politics. I think it would be fair to say that Wade Pfau has come to perceive the core error of the Buy-and-Hold Model as The Third Rail of Personal Finance.

Perhaps.

I’ve been foreseeing a Wave of community members rising up against the Lindaurheads and Greaney Goons going back to sometime in 2003. This is one movie in which the posse never shows up just in the nick of time. The posse is always to be found taking a nap in the guest room while I am left alone with my six-shooter against a gang of guys in black hats. These fellows are not gentlemen. Wade doesn’t like the sight of blood when it is on him and when it is his blood. In fairness, there are moments when I can kinda, sorta see the point.

Still, I think this one comes to a head soon.

Stock prices always end up at one-half of fair value in the wake of a huge bull. There’s not one exception in the historical record. That’s 65 percent down from where we are today. Bear markets usually last about 15 years. We are now 12 years into this one. Do the math. It’s not a pretty picture for those who have been telling tales about how stocks are always a good buy for the long run.

The Buy-and-Holders say they will never cry “uncle!” Watch their actions, not their words. Taylor Larimore (co-author of The Bogleheads Guide to Investing) was on the verge of selling in the months following the first crash. Some Diehard! Bill Bengen’s retirement study presumes that the retiree will never sell, no matter what. What did Bill tell his retiree clients in the months following the first crash? Sell! Sell! They always promise never to sell. They always sell. Buy-and-Hold advocates are like politicians. Their promises come with expiration dates.

This isn’t speculation. We know this to be so. What do you think always pulls the P/E10 value down to 7 or 8? Stocks sales do that. The reason why it takes years to get there is that the Buy-and-Holders always resist for a time. It is their sales that end the thing and permit prices to start working their way up again.

The next drop will hurt more than the first one. The first one came in the wake of a huge bull. People had slack in their budgets in those days. No one has slack today. Big price drops that take place when feelings are as raw as they are today hurt. People are going to be angry following the next crash. They are going to be looking for people to whom to direct their anger. Something tells me that I don’t want to have posts in my file saying that there is no need for corrections for retirement studies that get the numbers wildly wrong when those dark days arrive.

The experts in this field are smart people. They are already positioning themselves.

What do you think that Brett Arends fellow at the Wall Street Journal is up to? He says: “For years, the investment industry has tried to scare clients into staying fully invested at all times, no matter how high stocks go….It’s hooey…. They’re leaving out more than half the story.” That was a trial balloon. I hoped the article would go viral. It did not. But that doesn’t mean that it is not going to go viral someday. I’ll bet that I wasn’t the only one watching to see the reaction to that one. Everyone wants to be the new John Bogle. No one wants to stick his neck out too soon. Everyone wants to see someone else stick his neck out and live before sticking his own out too far. Most are cautious today. But wait. Wait until someone gives a big speech telling Truth and is applauded rather than jeered. Then comes the deluge.

Shiller didn’t include any discussion of how investors should adjust their stock allocations in his book. He left it to Old Farmer Hocus to tell the juicy part of the story. But how much do you want to bet that he’s already got a second book ready to send to the printers when the coast is clear for discussion of the practicalities?

And how about that Michael Kitces individual? He says: “There are time-periods where stocks are a terrible addition to that portfolio. Yet inexplicably, we as planners STILL tend to suggest that it is ‘risky’ to not own stocks when in reality the only material risk is to our business and ability to keep clients, NOT to the client’s goal.” Positioning, well-timed and well-executed. Did I mention that people in this field are smart?

Could it be that the rains will never fall hard enough to require the abandonment of Buy-and-Hold?

I believe that the Buy-and-Holders believe that.

I’ve looked at the data. It tells a different story than the one the Buy-and-Holders believe.

The Buy-and-Holders hate me with a burning passion. I do not think they should. I believe that, once you know you must make a change, the thing to do is to make the change as quickly as possible and thereby get that nasty transition period behind you. Things always look better when you wake up with the hard part of the hike behind you.

I’m trying to help the Buy-and-Holders. They don’t see it, but I am. I say that they got it almost right and that that is better than what just about any other group of investing analysts has managed. I am trying to persuade them to fix that one teensy little error so that they can continue to get credit for all the truly good stuff they have contributed. But do they thank me? Nooooo.

Wade is wrong when he suggests that nothing changed for me after the price crash. He wasn’t around before the crash. He thinks I am hated today. He doesn’t know what hate is! I was hatefully hated in a hateful way before the crash. Today you can tell that even the Goons are putting on an act. They try. The fire is just not there. Paul McCartney still sings “I Saw Her Standing There” today. And the words are all the same. But…. Well, you know.

Get Rich Quick schemes are a con. I saw a movie once where there’s this fellow selling snake oil and the townspeople catch on. Come back, Wade! Think it over!

I don’t think Wade is right that this is never going to flip. I think it is going to flip and I think it is going to flip hard when it does.

I think this is a Tipping Point thing. You can’t say anything real about Buy-and-Hold today. Because the Buy-and-Holders are the experts. No one cares what the research really says today. They are the experts. They get to decide.

People care about the numbers they see on their portfolio statements. When the numbers they see on their statements come to match the realities that they have not been told for years now, the word “expert” is not going to impress anymore. It’s going to be too late then to switch sides. People are not dumb.

We’ve never done this before. We’ve built stocks up to crazy prices and then watched those prices tumble. But never on this scale. Never with so much middle-class money (in the old days, only rich people could afford stocks). We certainly never did it with the internet available for the checking of stories. All those posts that argue that there’s no need to correct retirement studies just because the numbers in them are wildly wrong will sound different on the other side. They were meant as jokes! Funny, funny!  But jokes that were once widely thought funny can fall flat in changed circumstances.

Wade says that it is unclear what will happen in Step Two. He writes the words “Step Two” and follows them with a question mark.

Not this boy. I follow them with an exclamation point.

I’ve been seeing Step Two coming from the distance for a long time. I hope I’m well-positioned. I hope people don’t say I was too soft on the Buy-and-Holders!

 

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: buy-and-hold is dead, financial fraud, investing advisors, next stock crash, Wade Pfau

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #3 — Those Infuriating Peer Review Reports That Crushed Wade’s Hopes of Revolutionizing the Field of Investment Research

July 21, 2012 by Rob

The Greaney Goons threatened to send defamatory e-mails to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau’s employer to get him fired from his job. Wade had seen how the Goons operate up close and personal at the Bogleheads Forum and at Goon Central and at my site. He knew they were capable of following through on their threats and desperate enough to try just about anything. He expressed his worries to me re how the Goons might destroy his career.

All that said, I do not believe for two seconds that the threats made by the Greaney Goons were Wade’s only concern with publishing more research showing that Valuation-Informed Indexing has throughout the 140 years of stock-market history available to us always provided far higher returns than Buy-and-Hold at greatly reduced risk. Wade had LOTS of concerns. And properly so. There are lots of powerful people who have made careers pushing Buy-and-Hold. They are lots of powerful people who have made many millions of dollars pushing Buy-and-Hold. There are lots of powerful people who will be faced with billion-dollar lawsuits if middle-class investors learn what the last 30 years of academic research really says about the chances of Buy-and-Hold strategies ever working out well for long-term investors.

Wade’s research promised to revolutionize the field. There are a good number of people who do not want to see the field revolutionized. Wade was stepping on the toes of people who have demonstrated for many years now that they have ways of teaching a lesson to those who step on their toes.

Academic researchers live or die by their Peer Review reports. Wade shared with me two Peer Review reports for his revolutionary research. He was greatly discouraged by the words he read in those reports.

One of the reports was flat-out insulting. It stated: “We did not find the paper’s incremental contribution to the academic finance literature, assuming the analysis proved to be correct, rose to the level that we are seeking for papers in the JFR.” There’s nothing that can be said re that one. That one is a sick joke.

My sense is that it was the second Peer Review report that hit Wade harder. When he learned from our discussions how stock investing really works, he had big dreams for what he could do with this knowledge. He envisioned himself being published in the Journal of Finance, the most prestigious journal in the field. I told Wade that he was on his way to winning a Nobel prize. He didn’t permit himself to enjoy that crazy a dream. But he didn’t entirely rule out the possibility. He held it at a distance. Had his research really been published in the Journal of Finance, I am confident that he would have begun to seriously entertain hopes of winning a Nobel prize.

He was planning on doing lots of follow-up research. He told me when I praised his initial study comparing Valuation-Informed Indexing and Buy-and-Hold: “You ain’t seen nothing yet!” He wanted to see that initial research win at least a small percentage of the praise it merited. Then he would take things to the next step. That’s how bright, ambitious (in the good way) and prudent people proceed.

That second Peer Review Report killed that dream. The first one could be explained away as a quirk of one particular Peer Review team. But two negative reports? Given to a guy who was not accustomed to hearing negative words about his research work product? When Wade saw that second discouraging report, he realized that the mountain he was attempting to climb was a lot higher than he had anticipated. He was either going to have to prepare himself for an ordeal or — Move over to a mountain a bit less steep. He elected to move over to a mountain a bit less steep. He was probably thinking in the back of his mind that he could return to the first mountain at a later time if circumstances changed enough to make that one appear more imminently climbable.

What is the story with that Peer Review report? That’s a public policy issue. We need to teach millions of middle-class investors how stock investing really works if we are to overcome the economic crisis and get things back on the right track. If the best work of the best researchers gets shot down in Peer Review, we’ve got a serious problem on our hands, Houston.

There’s part of me that is enraged that Wade’s work did not receive a more enthusiastic reception. The research revolutionizes the field. It tells us the things about stock investing that we should have learned 30 years ago but did not because no researcher prior to Wade picked up on the implications of Shiller’s amazing 1981 findings.

There’s another part of me, though, that is not so shocked by the language in the Peer Review report. I have been writing about these matters on the internet for 10 years. I have seen lots of reactions that were 50 times worse than what Wade saw in that Peer Review report. The people who serve on Peer Review committees are humans too. They are subject to the same fears as the rest of us. They are subject to the same prejudices as the rest of us. They are subject to the same emotional addictions as the rest of us. My guess is that Wade was just unlucky enough to have one of those darn humans assigned to the Peer Review Committee for his research paper!

I like the comment that one of the peer reviewers made on Wade’s paper. He said: ““The elephant-in-the-room question is — What is the ultimate criterion for one to conclude with confidence that one strategy is better than the other?” That’s a pretty darn intelligent question. I have been promoting Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies on the internet for 10 years now. I’ve heard lots of reactions to the concept. I’ve heard many reactions less intelligent and less on the mark than that one. So I don’t feel entirely right slamming the Peer Review Team that so discouraged Wade. That comment indicates to me that the team approached the paper in at least a somewhat serious way.

I do slam the Peer Review Team for their conclusion, however. Their conclusion does not follow from the analysis evidenced in that comment. Yes, it is true that we need to identify with confidence the superior strategy. That’s the ultimate goal. But what if we genuinely do not know today whether Buy-and-Hold or Valuation-Informed Indexing is superior? What do we do, fake it? Do we pretend that we maintain confidence in Buy-and-Hold even though we have seen research that shakes that confidence?

What we must do is launch a national debate on this question of which strategy is superior. This question is far, far, far too important to duck. We need to resolve the question. No one investing expert, no one journalist, no one academic researcher, no one Peer Review Team can do that. We all have biases. We all have come from different sets of life experiences. To come to a conclusion re which strategy is superior, we must stage a national debate in which we all work together and we all get to have our say.

Yes, we must ultimately identify one strategy as superior. But that’s a process that will take time. To identify one strategy as superior prior to having the debate is to short-circuit the learning process. Is there some reason to believe that Buy-and-Hold is superior? There is not. Buy-and-Hold was developed at a time when long-term timing was not a practical option (index funds had not yet been created). So the researchers responsible for development of the Buy-and-Hold Model never tested whether long-term timing works. Wade did. He found zero reason to believe that Buy-and-Hold can work. Given that there is zero reason to believe that Buy-and-Hold can work and a great wealth of evidence showing that Valuation-Informed Indexing can work, it is not even remotely reasonable to conclude prior to any discussion or consideration of the issue that Buy-and-Hold is superior.

We need a national debate to tackle the question raised by the peer reviewer. And that’s just the purpose that peer reviewers should understand that academic journals serve! By publishing Wade’s research rather than rejecting it, the journal would have been making a statement that the critically important question of whether Buy-and-Hold or Valuation-Informed Indexing is superior was being put on the table for consideration. We would have seen many research articles submitted to many academic journals as a result. We would have had a great discussion. And, when the time was right, the issue would have been brought to a successful resolution.

The rejection of Wade’s paper didn’t help us answer the question raised by the Peer Review Team. It kept us in the dark regarding that important question. The Peer Review Team properly identified the question that matters and then failed to execute its duties in the manner required to see that that question received a good answer.

That said, I believe that Wade permitted himself to be overly discouraged by the two rejections.

Wade made a great comment in one of our conversations. He noted that there is a saying among academic researchers that all truly worthwhile papers are rejected at least once. That’s it! That’s the insight that applies!

Why is it that all truly important papers are rejected at least once? It’s because most papers are ordinary stuff, stuff that is perfectly fine in its way but stuff that is not going to change the world in any significant sense. Peer reviewers don’t experience much difficulty seeing the value of those papers because those papers conform to their expectations about how stock investing works. Papers that change history don’t fit the mold. Papers that change history are hard to accept. Papers that change history are unsettling. Papers that change history threaten to make you look like a fool if you endorse them because others may see them as strange and weird and different.

I run into this sort of concern all the time. People say my investing views are “controversial.” They say it in a way that suggests that that’s a bad thing. Huh? I’m a journalist. We live for controversy, Nobody reads newspapers that hint at no controversies. Controversy is good!

If a controversial claim ends up not being true, that’s no good, to be sure. But controversy by itself is not a bad thing. A controversial claim must be scrutinized carefully. Controversy for the sake of controversy serves no good purpose. But a controversial claims that stands up to scrutiny is the best sort of claim there is. It is controversial claims that stand up to scrutiny that change the world in a positive and constructive and life-affirming way.

Wade should have hung in there. Support for Buy-and-Hold is fading. Support for Valuation-Informed Indexing is growing. I have been taking vicious hits for 10 years now. I feel that Wade had it relatively easy. I essentially handed him a Nobel prize in Economics on a silver platter. He was going to need to demonstrate a little bit of patience before raking in all the praise and glory. But, presuming that Shiller is right, we will be seeing the next price crash within a few years. That’s when I expect to see a big change in public opinion on the question of whether honest discussion of the last 30 years of academic research should be permitted or not.

The Peer Review process has certainly let us down. The purpose of academic research is to teach us new things and Wade’s research showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing over Buy-and-Hold puts us on a path to discovering an entire universe of new things. His work should have been accepted immediately at the most important journals in the world. Still, the research was accepted — after two rejections, Wade was published by a perfectly acceptable journal. Had Wade stuck at it, his reputation would have grown and his follow-up studies would have been published by ever more prestigious journals. When you are publishing change-the-world stuff, you have to understand that it takes time to persuade the world that it needs changing.

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: investing research, peer review, Wade Pfau

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #2 — “I Really Don’t Know How You Think You Come Out of This Whole Episode Looking Like the Good Guy”

July 20, 2012 by Rob

My first reaction to this comment of Wade’s is that it is an odd one for an academic researcher to be putting forward. The value of academic research is that those who produce it are given tenure so that they can report honestly what the historical data reveals. Those trying to make a buck in this field are inevitably going to be drawn to doing the popular thing, which often translates into doing the thing that appeals most to the Get Rich Quick urge that exists within all of us. The reason why we turn to academic research for the straight story is that we imagine researchers to be beyond all that. Their jobs are safe. They are not caught up in the dog-eat-dog world of commerce. They are not salesmen. They can tell the truth because they do not need to worry about whether what they say will make them popular or not.

I think it would be fair to say that we have overestimated the extent to which living the life of the academic can insulate one from financial considerations, especially in a field in which there is so much money floating around. Wade has produced amazing research. But he wants its both ways. He wants to produce great research and to be popular too. He wants the links to his blog that go to those who play ball with The Buy-and-Hold Machine. He wants the job referrals that go to those who play ball with the Buy-and-Hold Machine. He wants the applause that goes to those who flatter investors who have bought into the marketing pitches advanced by The Buy-and-Hold Machine.

Make no mistake. I want those things too. I want links. I want job referrals. I want applause. I want bucks.

But I take strong offense at the idea that I need to post dishonestly on the numbers that my friends use to plan their retirements to get those things. I have seen little bits of corruption at every job I have worked, going back to my fast food days. That’s the way it is with the humans. You take that sort of thing in stride. You understand that humans have a lot of good in them and a bit of bad in them as well and you make the best of things as they are. Fine. But I have never experienced anything like what I have experienced in the ten years since I put forward that fateful post of May 13, 2002, pointing out the errors in the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies. What I have seen in the past ten years has been special and in a very, very bad way. Tens of thousands of links are not payment enough to persuade me to betray my friends. And I consider it a fresh insult every time I am asked.

That said, there is a practical point that Wade is making here that is worthy of some consideration.

I am trying to sell something. I am trying to persuade people of the merits of a new investing strategy. No one buys anything from anyone whom he doesn’t like. Gaining the customer’s respect and affection comes first. When they like you and respect you, they listen to your pitch. If your product is good enough, they buy it. If they hate your guts with a burning passion, as many Buy-and-Holders hate my guts with a burning passion, no amount of historical data will win them over.

I need people to like me. Wade is right about that. And Wade needs people to like him. He cannot do the good work he wants to do if people hate him with a burning passion. One of the things he learned during his 16 months of e-mail correspondence with me is that lots of Buy-and-Holders hate me with a burning passion.

Here are some words that Drip Guy wrote to the Bogleheads Forum when Wade posted about his research showing that Valuation-Informed Indexing has provided far higher returns than Buy-and-Hold at greatly reduced risk for the entire 140 years for which we now possess return data: “Since your own work is overtly at odds with the ethos of the board — here, the theme is John Bogle’s philosophy, which eschews market timing — I myself will no longer obliquely support it by giving you a whetstone on which to sharpen your knife. You must certainly know that this very board came into existence in order to ESCAPE the lunatic behaviors of one individual — the very individual with which you have publicly and openly aligned yourself, and who you are openly quoting and sourcing in your column and are forming your intended paper around.  While there is much merit in open discussion of competing, differing, and varied approaches, as to you, sir, I personally will have no more of it here on this forum, given the poison well from which you are now openly drawing your own water.” That’s hate. And there’s a threat implicit in those words. Drip Guy is telling Wade “We will destroy you if you associate with Rob Bennett.” And Wade knows that Drip Guy is prepared to follow through with the threat.

He knows something else. He knows that no one at the Bogleheads Forum is willing to speak up in opposition to the threat. Not John Bogle. Not Bill Bernstein. Not Larry Swedroe. Not Rick Ferri. Not anyone.

If Wade posts honestly on Valuation-Informed Indexing and on my role in developing the concept, he is finished in this field. That’s what his experiences posting at the Bogleheads Forum taught him. I don’t approve of his behavior. But it would not be fair to him to fail to point out that the opposition to anyone who sings my praises is rooted in nothing short of blind rage. If we are to make the transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing and thereby bring this economic crisis to an end, we are going to need to come to a understanding of the cause of that blind rage.

There are three elements.

First, I put forward insights. In ordinary circumstances, that is seen as a good thing. I know that because I put forward many important insights in the days before I posted about investing and I was the most loved poster at the Motley Fool site because of them. Putting forward insights does not by itself cause rage. But in the particular circumstances that apply in the investing realm, it does. The particular circumstances that make something that is ordinarily seen to be a good thing (advancing insights) to become viewed as a very bad thing are contained in the remaining two elements of the story.

The second element is the core of the problem. The insights are of earth-shaking significance. Making the shift to Valuation-Informed Indexing reduces investing risk by 80 percent. Buy-and-Hold caused the economic crisis and making the shift to Valuation-Informed Indexing would bring it to an end. All four economic crises that we have experienced since 1870 were caused by the widespread adoption of the Buy-and-Hold “idea” that there is no need for investors to lower their stock allocations when prices rise to insanely dangerous levels. Once we open the internet to honest posting, millions of middle-class people will be able to retire five to ten years sooner than they imagined was possible during the Buy-and-Hold Era. Valuation-Informed Indexing takes the emotion out of stock investing. It is the first truly research-based investing strategy and the first emotionally balanced investing strategy.

When someone gives you directions to the restaurant you are trying to locate, you thank them. They obviously possess some piece of information about the world that you lacked but you don’t see that as being a big deal. By sharing the information with you, they make your life better. They are doing you a favor! You say “thank you” and you go on your way.

It’s different when someone says you are living your life wrong. You don’t thank someone when they tell you that you married the wrong person. You don’t thank someone when they tell you that you are going about this business of raising your children all wrong. You don’t thank someone when they tell you that you have wasted 20 years of your life doing work for which you are not suited and which has little value in this world. You don’t thank someone when they tell you that your religion is a false one, that you are on the road to hell and you had better make some changes pronto.

We like people who help us out in small ways. We do not like people who offer to shake up our foundations and change our lives around from top to bottom.

I thought I was offering the ordinary sort of insight on the morning of May 13, 2002. I read some things in John Bogle’s book about how stock prices are determined and what I read told me that studies that did not contain adjustments for the valuation level that applies on the day the retirement begins could not possibly get the number right. I told my friends what I thought I had learned. I didn’t do it in even a slightly arrogant way. I didn’t even put forward a declarative statement. I posed a question. I asked my friends at the Motley Fool board: “Should we be considering valuations when calculating safe withdrawal rates?” I obviously believed we should be doing that, but I wasn’t certain and I didn’t pretend to be certain.

So I did nothing offensive. Zero. Nada. Zilch. There are Post Archives. This can be checked.

The problem is that the Buy-and-Holders had formed doubts in their own minds about those Old School safe withdrawal rate studies long before I came on the scene. They didn’t want to think about those doubts. They wanted things to go on as they had been going on during the huge bull. There were implications to what I was saying that they did not want to entertain. They wanted me to drop it and they made that clear. I didn’t want to drop it. I wanted to learn. I took the defensiveness as a sign that there was a lot to learn here. And the more I explored, the more I did learn. I learned amazing things. I generated insight after insight after insight.

In ten years, I revolutionized our understanding of how stock investing works.

I feel like I should apologize for that statement.

None of us are supposed to stand above all the others to that extent. None of us are supposed to be smarter or better or more ethical or whatever.

I cannot apologize. The insights that I have generated are too important. I am happy and proud to have produced them. So no apologies.

I can share credit. That’s honest. I obviously could not have done what I have done without huge amounts of help from people like Robert Shiller and John Bogle and Bill Bernstein and John Walter Russell and Wade Pfau and hundreds of other fine people. By no wild stretch of the imagination am I saying that I produced these amazing insights on my own or that I am smarter or better or more ethical than these other people. But I cannot deny the power of the insights. If our free market system is to survive, we need to make the shift to Valuation-Informed Indexing. I love our economic system. I cannot betray it by pulling a Wade Pfau and doing the popular thing and saying that perhaps Buy-and-Hold is not really all that dangerous, perhaps we will find a way to muddle through without Bogle ever having to say The Three Magic Words (“I” and “Was” and “Wrong”).

I violated a Social Taboo. I did too much. I generated investing insights of far too great a power. I made lots of smart and good and hard-working people look bad by doing so.

I cannot change that. I can offer the hand of kindness to these people. I can praise them to the skies. Because they have achieved things that justify me praising them to the skies. I can say that I love them and respect them and am grateful for all the things they have taught me over the years. But I cannot deny the power of the insights themselves. The insights are our salvation. The insights are the means by which we bring an end to the financial misery we brought on because of the ignorance about how investing works into which we were born and which we have only begun to rise above in recent decades.

People hate that. People are small that way. It’s one of the deficiencies of the humans. Some people will no doubt hate me even more for stating things so frankly here. Again, I cannot apologize. We need to get over the hate and start enjoying the benefits that come from learning about the insights. So it is my job to help interested parties understand where all this hate comes from. It comes from a place in the human psyche that hates, hates, hates, those of us who get too big for our britches. I am no investing expert. I am some guy whose only claim to expertise in this field is that I figured out what buttons to push to get my words to appear on other people’s computer screens. I am not supposed to know things that John Bogle does not know. And I obviously do. And so a good number of people hate me with a burning passion and for ten years now have not been able to give it up.

The third element is that the manner in which I tapped into all these powerful insights makes it seem so darned unfair that I was the one to develop them.

I contacted Dallas Morning News Columnist Scott Burns about my safe-withdrawal-rate findings in February 2005. The first two words of Scott’s response to my e-mail were: “You’re right.” He asked me in that e-mail for my telephone number so that he could interview me for an article. Then he got cold feet. Five months later, he published an article on the SWR findings but did not mention my name or include a link to my New School SWR calculator (“The Retirement Risk Evaluator”). Nor did he note his personal belief that I was right in my criticisms of the Old School studies; he presented the findings as if they had just appeared on the internet somewhere and as if he was not able to verify whether they were solid or not. This strange reaction on Scott’s part led us into an exchange of e-mails in which he offered a number of inappropriate personal comments.

Scott said that my efforts to get the discredited studies corrected would prove to be “catastrophically unproductive.” He said that the enthusiasm I evidenced re my efforts to give investors accurate SWR numbers demonstrated a desire for “personal aggrandizement.” Huh? Why would it be a bad thing to try to get discredited retirement studies corrected? And why would it be a bad thing to develop a calculator that offered access to the correct numbers?

The “problem” was that Scott knew for years that valuations matter. Shiller published his research showing that valuations matter in 1981. Scott was angry that I was using information that had been readily available to him for decades to produce the most powerful investing insights in history. How dare I? That could have been Scott Burns doing that!

Except it would have taken a level of courage that Scott Burns did not possess at that time for Scott Burns to have done that. What we have learned over the past 10 years is that offering good investing advice is not primarily an intellectual endeavor. The thing that makes stock investing hard is that we all possess an inclination to fall for Get Rich Quick strategies, and, once we fall for them, we become emotionally addicted to Get Rich Quick thinking. But we never lose the common sense that tells us that Get Rich Quick approaches always turn out badly in the long run. The true investing experts are not those who promote Buy-and-Hold strategies but those who warn us of their dangers.

The “experts” in this field are envious of Rob Bennett and the mountain of investing insights he has generated over the past 10 years by ignoring the ruthless attacks of The Buy-and-Hold Machine and by following the academic research where it led him. It would be dishonest of me to deny the power of the insights. So that cannot happen. It is the experts who have rationalized their continued promotion of the purest and most dangerous Get Rich Quick scheme ever concocted by the human mind for 30 years after the research showed that there is precisely zero chance that it can ever work for any long-term investor who need to make some changes.

These people are great people. They have a lot to offer. They have done good work in the past. They are smart. They are hard-working. They are good.

But they are going to need to get over their anger and envy and hate if they are to going to continue to do good work in the Valuation-Informed Indexing Era.

My hand is outstretched to all of them. There is nothing I would rather do than to work with them to help the millions of investors who were taken in by the Buy-and-Hold mumbo jumbo to learn what really works.

But I cannot bring about healing by agreeing to post dishonestly about the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies or any other critically important investment-related topic. It is the Buy-and-Holders who got it wrong. It is the Buy-and-Holders who have been behaving uncharitably and in fact shamefully for ten years now. It is the Buy-and-Holders who at this point need to extend the hand of kindness to get us out of the economic crisis brought on by their relentless promotion of dangerous and irresponsible and research-discredited investing strategies.

In the long run, all the ugly stuff will get blown away in the wind. It is the insights we have generated together over the past 10 years that will live on forever. We need to have the smartest people in this field united in their effort to spread knowledge of those insights to every middle-class investor. We need to get over our personal regrets over our earlier bad behavior and move on to better things and better days. All of us have a role in helping the Buy-and-Hold advocates come to recognition of why it is so important that they take that step soon.

We will all be viewed as Good Guys when we make it together to the other side of The Big Black Mountain!

The short version?

Some people need to get over themselves.

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