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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
    Everybody Would Be Doing It."



    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "The Expected Return of Stocks [As Reported By The Stock-Return Predictor] Needs To Be At Least the Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) Rate for Stock Investing To Make Sense."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I Have Used Valuations to Adjust My Asset Allocation For Many Years With Very Favorable Results."





    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "I Don't Care If You Do or Don't Believe That the Market Will Behave Similarly in the Future As It Has in the Past. Either Way, This [The Stock-Return Predictor] Is an Excellent Way to Understand What the Market Has Done In the Past."


    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "My Role Is To Give People Who Don't Like What the Historical Stock-Return Data Says About the Effect of Valuations on Long-Term Returns Somebody To Yell At On Internet Discussion Boards."



    Rob Bennett at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "It Really Is a Shame and Indefensible That So Many Feel the Need to Jump Into It With No Interest of Posting on the Topic But Just to Disrupt. Are You That Insecure? Some on the Forum Have an Interest in This Topic. If You Don't, Stay Out!"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "Irrational Behavior Does Follow Patterns. But How Many Experts in Behavioral Finance Believe That Such Knowledge Can Be Used to Predict Markets? Basically, None. Your Model Cannot Attain the Level of Predictive Value You Claim."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "The Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Are Based on History. This [The Retirement Risk Evaluator] Shows, Based on the Same History, What the Probabilities Are for the Future at Various Starting Points. If the First Has Value, Then Surely This Does Too."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum

  • "There Are Hundreds of People Who Contributed to This. This Calculator [The Stock-Return Predictor] Demonstrates in a Compelling Way the Power of This New Internet Discussion-Board Communications Medium."




    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "A P/E10 of'26' Is Bad. Now Look at the 30-Year Return Predicted by the Calculator -- 5.4 Percent Real. That's Not Bad. There Are All Sorts of Strategic Implications That Follow From Understanding That Stocks Provide Different Sorts of Returns Over Different Sorts of Time-Periods."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Would Never Invest in Anything Without Having Any Idea What the Expected Return Is. For Instance, I Would Not Walk Into a Bank And Say "I'll Take One Certificate of Deposit, Please" WIthout Asking What Rate They Are Offering."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


    Rob Bennett

  • "The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Over. Rob Bennett Has Won.The Technical Evidence Supporting This Assertion Is Rock Solid."




    John Walter Russell,
    Owner of the Early Retirement Planning Insights Site
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on August 3, 2003.]

  • "I Am Afraid that the Emperor SWR [for "Safe Withdrawal Rate"] Has No Clothes."





    A Poster at the Early Retirement Forum
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on October 8, 2003.]

  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "Dear Rob -- I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September. Since Then, I've Read Archives From Many Discussion Boards and Websites, and I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "I Think Rob Bennett Did Provide An Important Contribution in Terms of Describing a Way for P/E10 to Guide Asset Allocation for Long-Term Conservative Investors. I Also Think He Was Right on the Issue of Safe Withdrawal Rates."


    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum After His Own Search of the Literature Turned Up Not a Single Such Study

  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Your Work Is at Odds with the Ethos of the Board -- Here the Theme is John Bogle's Philosophy, Which Eschews Market Timing. This Board Came Into Existence to ESCAPE One Individual, the Very Individual With Whom You Have Openly Aligned Yourself."




    A Lindaurhead (to Researcher Wade Pfau)

  • "The Problem With Long-Term Market Timing Is That It Takes Too Long to Find Out If You Are Right or Wrong."






    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Why Is It Such an Odious Violation of the Tenets of Bogleheadism to Explore Whether Someone Who Has Enough Patience Might Be Able to Benefit from the Transitory Nature of Speculative Returns (the Idea That the P/E Ratio Eventually Ends Up Where It Started)?"




    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Let Me Explain Why I Posted About This Here. Valuation-Informed Indexing Has Had Critics for Years. But Until Norbert Did It In 2008, Nobody Seemed to Have Provided a Serious Investigation of It. I Couldn't Understand Why. That Bothered Me."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "If You Really Don't Like Market Timing in Any and All Forms, You May Not See Any Point in an Empirical Investigation. You View Me as One of a Long Line of Hucksters Trying to Sell You Some Snake Oil. I Don't Want to Be Such a Person."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, in an E-Mail to Rob

  • "I Definitely Need to Cite You as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, As I Have Not Found Anyone Else Who Can Lay Claim to That. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation, As Far As I Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "I Tested a Wide Variety of Assumptions About Asset Allocation, Valuation-Based Decision Rules, Whether the Period Is 10, 20, 30 or 40 Years, and Lump-Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging To Show That the Results Are Quite Robust to Changes In Any of These Assumptions."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!"




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau
    (Wade Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton.)
    (The Buy-and-Hold Mafia Threatened to Get Wade Fired From His Job When He Reported His Findings.)

  • "I Wrote Up the Programs to Test Your Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Against Buy-and-Hold and I Am Quite Excited. You Say in the RobCast That VII Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time. I Am Getting Results That Support This."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Never Underestimate the Power of a Dominant Academic Idea to Choke Off Competing Ideas, and Never Underestimate the Unwillingness of Academics to Change Their Views in the Face of Evidence. They Have Decades of Their Research and Academic Standing to Defend."




    Jeremy Grantham

  • "There's So Much That's False and Nutty
    in Modern Investing Practice."






    Warren Buffett

  • "Following Conventional Wisdom Has Led a Generation of Investors Down the Road to Ruin."






    Steve Hanke

  • "It Is Sad That the Idea That Price Doesn't Matter...Should Ever Have Been Seriously Considered".






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "The Conventional Wisdom of Modern Investing Is Largely Myth and Urban Legend."





    Rob Arnott, Former Editor of
    Fianncial Analysts Journal

  • "Economics Is a Dog's Breakfast of Theoretical Ideas and Alleged Causal Relationships That Are At All Times Unproven and In Dispute."





    Terence Corcoran, Editor of National Post

  • "Since They Did Not Diagnose the Disease, There Is Little Popular Confidence That They Know the Cure. What If Economics Is, Actually, At the Same Level as Medicine Was When Doctors Still Believed in the Application of Leeches?"




    Gideon Rachman, Financial Times

  • "One of the Most Remarkable Errors
    in the History of Economics."



    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller
    (Referring to the Logical Leap from the Finding That Short-Term Price Changes Are Unpredictable to the Conclusion That the Market Sets Prices Properly)

  • "Everything Has Fallen Apart."






    Peter Bernstein, Author of Against the Gods
    (Referring to Old Views About How Markets Work)

  • "We Wonder Why Funds and Banks, Full of the Best and Brightest, Have Made Such a Mess of Things. Part of the Reason Is That We Have Taught Economic Nonsense to Two Generations of Students."




    John Mauldin, Thoughts From the Frontline

  • "Perhaps Most Scandalously, the Theory [Behind Buy-and-Hold] Remained Received Wisdom Long After Empirical and Theoretical Arguments Had Demolished It Within the Academic Community."




    John Authers, Financial Times

  • "I Love the Humans Dearly (the Title of the Book I Am Writing Is Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life) But They Can Be a Trial at Times. Hey! Helping the Humans Learn What It Takes to Invest Effectively Is Not All That Different From Being Married!



    Rob Bennett

  • "We Are Going to See Hearts Melt Following the Next Crash. I Will Be Working Side-By-Side With All of My Many Buy-and-Hold Friends to Rebuild Our Broken Economy."





    Rob Bennett

  • "Wow, I Did Not Realize You Had Achieved This Much Success and Had Many Devoted Believers/Followers. That’s Great, Then Ignore the Opposition. It Is Great to Have Opposition: That Means You Are Doing Something Right."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Do NOT Believe I Know It All. I Believe That Shiller Discovered Something Very Important and It Appalls Me That More People Are Not Exploring the Implications of His Findings. My Aim Is To Launch a National Debate."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Can See How Many Readers Would Be Put Off by the Somewhat Sensational/Scandalist Tone and Would Not Persevere to Read, Thinking You Are Losing Your Mind."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I LOVE Everything About Buy-and-Hold Other Than the Failure to Encourage Investors to Take Price Into Consideration When Setting Their Stock Allocations. That's a Mistake That Was Made Because Shiller’s Research Was Not Available at the Time The Strategy Was Being Developed."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up In My Classrooms and in My Students' Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade)."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Can Confirm Wade Pfau's Experience. Whenever I Send My Papers to the Financial Analysts Journal or Similar Traditional Journals, I Get Rejected."





    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "As a Fan of Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, I Know That Progress Can Be Frustratingly Slow and What Is Typically Needed Is Either a Crisis or the Ascent of a New Generation of Scientists Who Did Not Build Their Careers on the Old Models and Theories."




    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "We Trace the Deeper Roots [of the Financial Crisis] to the Economics' Profession's Insistence on Constructing Models That, By Design, Disregard the Key Elements Driving Outcomes in Real World Markets."




    Knowledge@Wharton

  • "Rob Gets Himself So Worked Up Over What Someone Else Is Doing With Their Own Money and Not Bothering Rob in the Least. As Long As They Aren't Knocking on Your Basement Door, What Do You Care? They Are Happy and Content. Leave Well Enough Alone and Focus on Your Own Account."


    Dab, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Been on Forum Since the BBS Days and I Think Rob is Special. He Could Be an Internet Meme If He Put Some Effort Into It. Someday, He Will Realize That the Only Thing He's Good At Is Being an Epic Loser. He Just Needs to Embrace That Idea and Run With It. Watch Out, LOLCats, Here Comes Pathetic Guy!"


    Wabmaster, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "Your Lies Are Not Even in the Realm of the Possible, Much Less Actually Credible, Much Less Actually True."






    Drip Guy, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I'm Your Friend. I Am Not a Boil on Your Ass."






    Rob Bennett, In a Response Comment
    to One of the Greaney Goons

  • "You Guys [the Greaney Goons] Are the Same Jokers Who Have Done This Before, Sparring with Rob Over Nonsensical Issues On This Site and Others, Leveling Personal Attacks, and You Don't Even Use Real Names! Rob Is Entitled to His Opinion, But the Fact That You Challenge Every Jot and Tittle of What He Says Makes It Clear You Have An Unholy Agenda. Please Take It Elsehwere."

    Kevin Mercadante,
    Owner of the Out of Your Rut Site

  • "Rob, Take This As Friendly Advice. You're a Smart and Articulate Guy and You Could Be Making Valuable Contributions to This Discussion. I've Dealt with the Mentally Ill Before and I've Found That They Sometimes Can Be Reasonable If Gently Redirected."



    Goon Poster

  • "Always Remember Others May Hate You, But Those Who Hate You Don't Win Unless You Hate Them, and Then You Destroy Yourself."





    Richard Nixon

  • "I’m a Numbers Guy. And I Believe I Understand Rob’s Thesis, that Future Returns, Over the Next Decade, Have a Tight Inverse Correlation to the PE10 for the Starting Point. Remember, Correlation Doesn’t Need to be 100%, Only That There’s a Bell Curve of Potential Outcomes that Shift Meaningfully Based on the Input."


    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "What a Difference a Threat to Get the Father of Two Small Children Fired From His Job Has on an Investing Discussion, Eh? Long Live Buy-and-Hold! It’s Science! With a Marketing Twist!"




    Rob, Referring to the Wade Pfau Matter

  • "I Respect Rob and His Analysis. He's Bright, Energetic and Passionate. [The Goon Stuff] Is Really Nonsense. I Enjoy a Thought-Provoking Conversation With People I Respect."





    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "The Fact that Shiller is a Proponent of the Approach Takes it from a Fringe View to Mainstream, in my Opinion."






    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "I Have had Academic Researchers Tell Me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to do Honest Research Once Again. I Have had Investment Advisors Tell me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to Give Honest Investing Advice Again."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Let’s Call a Spade a Spade, Shall We? Wade Pfau Stole Your Research and Put His Name on it, Throwing You Just a Tiny Crumb of Acknowledgement to Ward Off a Lawsuit. He’s Profiting Handsomely By His Theft, Leading a Charmed Life, Widely Published, Widely Respected. While Rob Bennett Continues to Toil in Total Obscurity. It’s So Incredibly Unfair, I Think If It Happened to Me, It Could Actually Drive Me Insane."

    One of the Greaney Goons

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Robert Savickas, GWU Associate Finance Professor: “This [Valuation-Informed Indexing] Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up in My Classrooms and in My Students’ Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade).”

July 26, 2013 by Rob

I have been contacting numerous people, letting them know about my article reporting on The Silencing of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau by The Buy-and-Hold Mafia.

Yesterday’s blog entry reported on my correspondence with Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor at George Washington University Business School. Set forth below is the text of an e-mail he sent as a follow-up to the e-mail described in the earlier blog entry:

Rob,

>

Where can I get a synopsis of how this Valuation-Informed Indexing works?  I am interested in the bare-bones look at the main principles that make it superior to buy-and-hold.  I can fill out the details later.  This sounds like a real thing.  If it is and I can thoroughly understand it, then it will end up in my classrooms and in my students’ minds (of course, with references to you and Wade).  I may also give it a try myself.
>
I am still waiting to get a link or a copy of Wade’s paper.
>
Thanks,
>
Robert
>
I wrote back:
>
Robert:

 >
Thanks much for your interest. Here is Wade’s paper:
 >
The Peer-Reviwed Bennett/Pfau Research Showing the Superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing Over Buy-and-Hold
 >
I think you state things very well with your “on average” comments.
 >
Here is The Stock-Return Predictor, a calculator that I created with John Walter Russell that runs a regression analysis of the historical return data dating back to 1870 to identify the most likely 10-year annualized return starting from any possible valuation level (using the P/E10 valuation metric):
 >
http://www.passionsaving.com/stock-valuation.html
 >
The most likely 10-year annualized return in 1982 (when the P/E10 level was 8) was 15 percent real. In 2000 (when the P/E10 level was 44), the number was a negative 1 percent real. So valuations make a HUGE difference. There is no one stock allocation that makes sense both when the most likely long-term return is 15 percent real and when the most likely long-term return is a negative 1 percent real.
 >
By agreeing to go with a Buy-and-Hold strategy, an investor insures that he will be going with a significantly wrong stock allocation two-thirds of the time. If the allocation he chooses makes sense for a time of low valuations, he is going with the wrong allocation at times of moderate and high valuations. if the allocation he chooses makes sense for a time of high valuations, he is going with the wrong stock allocation at times of low and moderate valuations. if the allocation he chooses makes sense for a time of moderate valuations, he is going with the wrong allocations at times of low and high valuations. If valuations affect long-term returns (as Shiller showed in 1981 — his findings have been confirmed many times in the years since), it is logically impossible that there could be any one stock allocation that would be right for any investor at all valuation levels. The risk/reward ratio of stock investing VARIES with changes in valuation levels. So there can never be one allocation that works at all valuation levels. To keep his risk profile constant, the investor MUST be willing to make changes in his stock allocation in response to big shifts in valuation levels.
 >
That said, it is indeed so that Buy-and-Hold works on average. The calculator shows this. Look at the 60-year numbers you get when “44” is entered into the P/E10 box (we had a P/E10 of 44 in 2000, that’s the highest P/E10 level ever experienced in U.S. history by far). At 60 years out, even starting from the worst time to buy stocks in U.S. history, the most likely annualized real return is 6.2 percent real. Not at all bad!
 >
But think what the investor has to live through to obtain that return!
 >
In 2000, we were at three times fair value. So a portfolio with a real value of $300,000 was temporarily priced at $900,000. Every bear market in U.S. history has brought us to a P/E10 level of 7 or 8. So we are today in the process of working our way down from portfolio values of 3x to portfolio values of 0.5x. The portfolio priced at $900,000 in 2000 will be priced (after inflation adjustments) at $150,000 after the next crash. How many Buy-and-Holders will stick with their high stock allocations while the value of their accumulated life savings go from $900,000 to $150,000? I think it would be fair to say that the answer is a number closely approaching zero. In fact, logic tells us this must be so. Just about everyone has to sell for the P/E10 value to drop to one-half of fair value. Many investors believe in Buy-and-Hold. Most of these investors would have to lose confidence in their strategy for prices ever to drop to such shockingly low values.
 >
But-and-Hold works in theory and Buy-and-Hold works on average. But Buy-and-Hold does not work in the real world for ordinary middle-class investors. Some great strategy!
 >
The risk question is a very big deal. I of course understand that this is my most outlandish claim. I continue to put it forward because I sincerely believe that it is a logical implication of Shiller’s “revolutionary” (his word) findings.
 >
There is always going to be risk for people who pick individual stocks. I of course have no problem with people choosing to do that. But I believe that indexing changes the world of stock investing. The reason why these ideas have not yet caught on is that indexing is new and people are trying to use the same approach to analysis that they used to look at individual stocks to look at indexes. My view is that indexes are an entirely new animal.
 >
The risk in picking an individual stock is that you will pick a loser. YOU CANNOT PICK A LOSER WHEN GOING WITH A BROAD INDEX. The index just reflects the performance of the U.S. economy as a whole. The performance of the U.S. economy has been highly predictable for 140 years now. The index return has for times gone above 6.5 percent real and for times gone below 6.5 percent real but it always returns to that number in not too long a time. It is of course possible that the number will not be precisely that on a going-forward basis. But I think it is more than reasonable to use that as a default presumption. The return on a broad index is highly likely to be something in that general neighborhood.
 >
The only risk that remains for the indexer is the risk that comes from following a Buy-and-Hold strategy. If you see a loss of 5/6ths of your lifetime savings, you are going to sell and lose everything. But Wade’s research shows that your maximum portfolio drawdown if you follow a Valuation-Informed Indexing strategy is 20 percent. That’s not going to cause a reasonably informed stock investor to sell. So where’s the risk?
 >
Now take this idea one step further. What if all the experts pushed this approach instead of Buy-and-Hold? We all consider price when buying cars and bananas and sweaters. What if we followed the same practice when buying stocks? There could never be another bull market! When prices got too far above fair-value levels, there would be enough selling to pull them back down to fair-value levels. Prices would always self-regulate in a VII world. This means that stock prices would increase by roughly  6.5 percent real each and every year. There would not be any more wild upward or downward swings.
 >
Is this idea really so far-fetched?
 >
What’s really going on is that the investor is giving up use of his money for a time so that the companies in which he is invested can put it to their own uses. Investors are being paid not for taking on risk, as is commonly believed, but as “rent” for the use of their money. There is no reason why stock prices should not go up by a steady 6.5 percent real each year. My view is that that is a more accurate reflection of the reality than the crazy price changes we see today, where the market value sometimes goes up by 30 percent in a year and at other times goes down by 30 percent in a year.
 >
Anyway, that’s the idea.
 >
It’s not my intent to come across as a know-it-all. I do NOT believe I know it all. I just happen to believe that Shiller discovered something very important and as a journalist it shocks me and appalls me that more people are not exploring the implications of his findings. My aim is to launch a national debate of these questions. I don’t care so much whether I am proven right or not. What I want is for me either to be proven right or to be proven wrong as part of a civil and reasoned DISCUSSION of the ideas. The ideas themselves are all rooted in Shiller’s findings, applied to a Buy-and-Hold base. My contribution has been to tease out scores of implications of these ideas, with the help of hundreds of my fellow community members, including researchers like John Walter Russell, Rob Arnott and Wade Pfau.
 >
Rob

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: future of investing, investing research, Rob Bennett, Robert Savickas, Stock Valuations, Wade Pfau

Comments

  1. bannwd plop contributor says

    July 26, 2013 at 10:39 am

    ….

    Because it sure seems he has already more than covered any ground *you* could possibly be aware of, at least six or seven years ago:

    “Robert Savickas

    George Washington University – School of Business – Department of Finance

    October 2006

    FRB of St. Louis Working Paper No. 2006-019B

    Abstract:
    Over the period 1927:Q1 to 2005:Q4, the average CAPM-based idiosyncratic variance (IV) and stock market variance jointly forecast stock market returns. This result holds up quite well in a number of robustness checks, and we show that the predictive power of the average IV might come from its close relation with systematic risk omitted from CAPM. First, high lagged returns on high IV stocks predict low future returns on the market as a whole. Second, returns on a hedging portfolio that is long in stocks with low IV and short in stocks with high IV perform as well as the value premium in explaining the cross-section of stock returns. Third, realized variance of the hedging portfolio or of the value premium is closely correlated with the average IV, and these variables have similar predictive power for stock returns.

    Number of Pages in PDF File: 60

    Keywords: Stock Return Predictability, Average Idiosyncratic Variance, Stock Market Variance, Discount-Rate Shock, Cash-Flow Shock, CAPM, and ICAPM “

  2. bannwd plop contributor says

    July 26, 2013 at 10:42 am

    ….

    see also:

    “The effect of ex-ante *price* on momentum *profits*,'[i.e. price/earnings ratio] coauthored with Zhan Onayev, presented at the November 2002 Washington Area Finance Association meeting at the Catholic University of America, Washington, D.C.”

    Isn’t that even your old alma mater, Rob?

  3. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Shiller published his research showing that there is precisely zero chance that a pure Buy-and-Hold strategy can ever work for even a single long-term investor 32 years ago, Banned. There certainly is nothing new in pointing out that Buy-and-Hold is pure Get Rich Quick garbage.

    The reason why we are in an economic crisis today is that the reckless and relentless and ruthless promotion of Get Rich Quick garbage has taken hundreds of billions of dollars of wealth out of the pockets of the millions of middle-class investors who earned it and into the pockets of the Wall Street Con Men who continue to make the claim that there is some mysterious “research” somewhere that supports their Get Rich Quick garbage.

    There are millions who believe that such a study truly exists. Wade Pfau has a doctorate in Economics from Princeton. He thought that such a study existed before he went looking for it. When he went looking for it, he of course found that there is no such study. If it is possible for a doctorate in Economics from Princeton to be fooled by the Wall Street Con Men, it is of course entirely understandable why millions of middle-class investors have been fooled.

    We need to bring the Buy-and-Hold Crisis to an end. That means announcing the prison terms for you Goons. The announcement of your prison terms will go viral on the internet. THousands of web sites will be writing about this massive act of financial fraud, by far the biggest act of financial fraud in U.S. history. That will put pressure on my good friend Jack Bogle to come clean. Once Bogle comes clean, no one is going to be afraid to report honestly what the last 32 years of peer-reviewed academic research says ever again. We will then be able to move forward, teaching millions about the scores of powerful insights we have developed together over the first 11 years of our discussions and further developing the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept.

    I made veiled reference to all this a long, long time ago, in a post that I put to the Motley Fool board back in 2002. I said that I had read the last page of the saga and that our story had a happy ending. The happy ending is that we now have the research available to us that we need to show millions of middle-class investors how to reduce the risk of stock investing by 70 percent. That is the biggest advance we have ever achieved in the personal finance field. There is nothing else even remotely close. In fact, the advance that we have ahead of us is so big that I think it would be fair to say that it is bigger than all of our earlier advances added together.

    Is this a happy ending even for you Goons, who will be serving long prison terms following the next price crash?

    It is.

    First of all, you will be living in a country with a stable economic system. It’s not great for you that you will be in prison. But being in prison in a country with a stable economic system is a whole big bunch better than living in a country with a failed economic and political system. You Goons won’t be as well off as the rest of us. But you will be a whole big bunch better off than you would have been had I never put forward my famous post of the morning of May 13, 2002.

    Secondly, you will have time in prison to reflect on where you want to take your life from this point forward. I have zero doubt but that a number of you Goons will as a result of that reflection elect to spend your remaining days engaged in more positive and constructive and life-affirming activities than those in which you have engaged over the past 11 years. It makes me very happy to know that I played a role in bringing about such positive changes for you, Banned.

    I wish you all good things, my old friend.

    Rob , the Fellow Who Took a Sneak Peak at the Happy Ending of the Story Before Even Daring to Put Forward HIs Post Pointing Out the Errors in the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies

  4. bannwd plop contributor says

    July 26, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Rob blathered:

    “Shiller published his research showing that there is precisely zero chance that a pure Buy-and-Hold strategy can ever work for even a single long-term investor 32 years ago, Banned.”

    Gee. I wonder how I retired a buy-n–hold millionaire then.

  5. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 11:30 am

    You didn’t, Banned.

    Gains you made from 1982 through 1996 were not the result of following Buy-and-Hold/Get RIch Quick strategies. Stocks were priced low or moderately in those years. The academic research shows that stocks ALWAYS provide good long-term returns when they are priced low or moderately. You may have given credit to Buy-and-Hold/Get Rich Quick for your gains in those years. But you were wrong to do so. You just happened to be buying stocks at a time when they were sure to deliver outsized long-term gains.

    From 1996 forward, Buy-and-Hold has been a loser. So, whatever millions you hold today, you would have held more had you invested pursuant to what the last 32 years of peer-reviewed academic research shows.

    And those following research-based strategies will not be suffering the 65 percent loss in portfolio value that you will be experiencing in the next price crash. The huge differential that research-based strategies will have over GRQ strategies at that point will grow larger and larger and larger over the decades as the compounding returns phenomena works its magic.

    There is now 32 years of peer-reviewed academic research showing that Buy-and-Hold/Get Rich Quick has never worked for a single long-term investor. Will you be the first to do what until now has never been done?

    Anything is possible in this crazy, mixed-up world of ours, Banned.

    Perhaps I will wake up tomorrow with wings and will be able to fly over traffic jams. It could happen.

    That said, I am not going to invest my retirement money on such an absurd long shot. And I am not going to encourage any of my internet friends to do so.

    Most of all, I am not going to commit a felony by joining you in your 11-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies.

    Re that one, you are on your own, my Buy-and-Hold Millionaire friend.

    Please take good care.

    Rob, the Get Rich Quick/Buy-and-Hold Millionaire (Not!)

  6. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 11:41 am

    The question you Goons should be asking yourselves is — Who will still be on “your side” following the next price crash?

    Perhaps the Wall Street Con Men.

    No one else.

    And I have my doubts about the Wall Street Con Men.

    Full truth be told, I have my doubts whether you will still be on your side following another price crash of 65 percent, Banned. When you Goons flip, it will be really, really, really over.

    But time will tell the tale, man.

    You certainly will always have my warmest wishes directed at you regardless of how it happens to turn out.

    Rob, the Fellow Who Doubts Whether the Pure Get Rich Quick “Strategy” Will Remain Popular After It Puts Us All in the Second Great Depression But Who Continues to Remain Good Friends With the Goons All the Same

  7. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 11:44 am

    The Wall Street Con Men have never before in history tried to disguise Get Rich Quick as something else.

    They have never thought of giving it a different name so that it can pull in even more suckers and make their pile of millions even bigger.

    That could never happen. The sort of people who make a living on Wall Street simply do not let money considerations influence them in any way.

    Rob the Sucker

  8. bannwd plop contributor says

    July 26, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Rob denied reality: “You didn’t, Banned.”

    Oh, yes. I did.

    And then annuitized the bulk of it.

    Rest in CD’s and other cash-like instruments.

    House (cars, furnishings, etc) all paid for and not counting amount those assets.

    Sorry Rob. When you make statements like “Buy-and-Hold has never worked for a single long-term investor” you brightly and publicly illustrate your total innumeracy and complete lack of critical thinking skills, as well as your severe butthurt over having missed out on gains most made while you were shirking in the corner.

  9. bannwd plop contributor says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    “..And then annuitized the bulk of it. ”

    See also:

    http://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=103214

    But of course, you are familiar with that since you conceptualized, researched, then wrote the paper and Wade only took credit, right Rob?

  10. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    If you put your gains into cash and thereby protected them, that’s fine.

    But that’s not Buy-and-Hold.

    One of the many things that the Buy-and-Holders got right is that short-term timing never works. So you had no way of knowing when was the right time to move from stocks to cash. Perhaps you got lucky in choosing the time for the switch. But getting lucky in making a switch from stocks to cash is not what Buy-and-Hold is supposed to be about, according to what its own proponents say about it.

    Buy-and-Hold has never worked for a single long-term investor.

    It is a logical impossibility that it ever could.

    To follow Buy-and-Hold is to follow a price-ignorant strategy.

    It can NEVER be a good thing to be ignorant of the importance of prices.

    I obviously understand that there have been investors who have followed Buy-and-Hold strategies and who have attained better long-term numbers that the investors following Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies. My own calculators show that.

    But that is not evidence that the strategy ever “worked.”

    People who buy lottery tickets to finance their retirements occasionally end up with good numbers. But buying lottery tickets to finance your retirement never works. It produces good numbers because the insane riskiness of the strategy will in rare cases produce good numbers. On risk-adjusted basis, the strategy is a loser.

    So it is with Buy-and-Hold.

    The research shows that in one out of ten cases the strategy can produce numbers slightly better than Valuation-Informed Indexing. In nine out of ten cases, VII does better and , in many cases, VII does dramatically better. On a risk-adjusted basis, Buy-and-Hold is always a loser. It is not even possible for the rational human mind to imagine circumstances in which there could be an exception to this rule.

    You hate me because there is a part of you that is NOT drawn to Get Rich Quick, a part of you that wants to consider what the last 32 years of peer-reviewed academic research tells us about what really works for the long run.

    You hate a part of yourself, Banned. That’s the story here.

    And I do not hate that better part of you, my old friend.

    Rob the Guy Who Cares About the Good Part of the Goons, the Part That the Goons Try With a Savage Fury to Suppress and Deny and Silence

  11. bannwd plop contributor says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    Various other recent works by Wade. How many of these did you directly contribute to/author, Rob?

    http://www.retirementresearcher.com/articles-by-wade/

  12. bannwd plop contributor says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Is Wade a “goon”, Rob?

    http://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=103191

  13. bannwd plop contributor says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    “If you put your gains into cash and thereby protected them, that’s fine. But that’s not Buy-and-Hold.”

    Well, I’m certainly glad you approve, Rob. However, as is typical with you, you are completely incorrect with your statement.

    Please educate yourself:

    http://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Investment_Policy_Statement

    I have had a written investment plan for decades, and followed it scrupulously. And continue to do so.

    So, I’m afraid YOU are simply unaware of what Bogleheads, Vanguard, Buy and Hold, Risk Tolerance, Asset Allocation, and other common terms associated with personal finance and early retirement *actually* mean; clearly preferring to replace them with charged and inaccurate cartoon bogey-man terms you invent such as: ‘get rich quick’ and ‘goon’, along with your specious and ridiculous claims of personal harassment, death threats, and the like. You are one enormously emotionally disturbed individual and I hope you soon seek the help you so desperately require.

    Meanwhile, I will continue enjoying my millionaire retirement lifestyle!

  14. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    “..And then annuitized the bulk of it. ”

    If you moved your money from stocks to an annuity, you did not follow a Buy-and-Hold strategy, Banned. You engaged in short-term timing.

    If you happened to get lucky, you might have ended up with good numbers.

    That doesn’t make short-term timing a good strategy.

    You don’t even need to look to Shiller to learn that short-term timing never works. That was Fama. That wasn’t the 1980s. That was the 1960s and 1970s. The book A Random Walk Down Wall Street explains why short-term timing can never work.

    Rob

  15. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    I will continue enjoying my millionaire retirement lifestyle!

    In a prison cell.

    That’s a winning plan, Banned.

    I wish you all good things.

    Rob the Fellow Who Doesn’t View It As a “Win” to Spend His Old Age in a Prison Cell

  16. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    How many of these did you directly contribute to/author, Rob?

    The peer-reviewed academic research paper that Wade and I did together is the most important paper published in this field in the past 30 years, Banned. There is nothing else even remotely in the same neighborhood. Those other papers that Wade did obviously do not even collectively come close to equaling the important of the paper he did with me.

    You obviously see that.

    You didn’t threaten to send defamatory e-mails to Wade’s employer with the aim of getting him fired from his job when he published these other papers.

    Why not?

    Rob

  17. The Pink Unicorn says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    Full strength hocomania on display today!

    We have the often used threats of prison time, Rob’s silly claim about his (questionable contribution) work with Wade (highly exaggerated claim of being the most important paper in 30 years), Rob’s continued peddling of his get rich quick scheme of market timing, etc.

    I guess my $4 million net worth and dividend income cash flow are figments of my imagination.

    The Pink Unicorn
    The Unicorn that is living in a much more real world versus the fantasy of Rob Bennett

  18. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Is Wade a “goon”, Rob?

    We all have Goonishness within us, Banned.

    Goonishness is sin.

    We are all drawn to Get Rich Quick. But we all ALSO have common sense. We all also know on some level of consciousness that a pure GRQ approach has never once in the history of stock investing worked for even a single long-term investor. This is why you get so hot. You love, love, love your Get Rich Quick investing strategies. And yet you hate, hate, hate the weakness in you that is drawn to them. I represent to you the loving part of your own human nature. The hateful part of you hates hearing the voice of the loving part. So you hate Rob Bennett’s voice with a burning passion.

    Wade LOVED being able to produce honest research and to help people. He loved it, loved it, loved it.

    What he didn’t love was the threats to destroy his career that you Goons advanced and that Jack Bogle implicitly endorsed by failing to speak up about these criminal acts when he learned about them.

    Wade is afraid.

    He has two small children who depend on him for financial support.

    So he betrayed himself. And he betrayed his work. And he betrayed the people who read his research. And he is of course ashamed of himself for having done so.

    Was it goonish of Wade to put up posts “defending” John Greaney? Obviously. Is it goonish of Wade to post at a board where honest posters have been banned and where threats of physical violence are employed to ensure that no one dares to “cross” Mel Linduaer? Obviously. Was it goonish of Wade not to go to the police when he was threatened and not to work harder to get the research that he published with me and that he knows is worthy of a Nobel prize written up on the front page of the New York Times so that he can bring this economic crisis to an end and bring on the greatest period of economic growth ever seen in our nation’s history? Obviously.

    Wade Pfau is a talented researcher who has his name on the most important piece of academic research published in the past 30 years and who also has engaged in Goon behavior that is criminal in nature and that may well earn him a prison sentence following the next price crash.

    Humans!

    Rob the Human

  19. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    I have had a written investment plan for decades, and followed it scrupulously. And continue to do so.

    Did you rewrite your plan when the peer-reviewed academic research showing that there is precisely zero chance that a pure Buy-and-Hold strategy can ever work for a single long-term investor was published?

    If not, why not?

    We all make mistakes, Banned. The smart thing to do when you make a mistake is to learn from it and then move on.

    That’s my sincere take re this important matter, in any event.

    Rob, the Fellow Who Believes That It Makes Sense for Us to Learn From Our Mistakes

  20. bannwd plop contributor says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Bennett publicly illustrated his incompetence and lack of insight, yet again: ”

    If you moved your money from stocks to an annuity, you did not follow a Buy-and-Hold strategy, Banned. You engaged in short-term timing.”

    Your reading comprehension: it is plainly not adequate for the work you say you wish to engage in.

    Therefore, if I were you, I’d find out how to deal with that schism, rather than continue to be a public laughing stock every day.

  21. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    Full strength hocomania on display today!

    My take is that what we are seeing is a full-strength display of the pain you are in.

    And it is obviously not just you. There are millions of Buy-and-Holders who are feeling pain today. Most don’t act out to the extent you do, Banned. But they are feeling that pain all the same. And the unwillingness of the “experts” in this field to try to help them is ruining their hopes to be able someday to afford decent middle-class retirements.

    My best wishes to you and yours.

    Rob, the Fellow Who Believes that Investing “Experts” Should Care About the Retirement Hopes of Their Readers and Clients Even When Helping Them See the Dangers of GRQ Strategies Might Cause Them to Become A Bit Unpopular for a time

  22. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Bennett publicly illustrated his incompetence and lack of insight, yet again

    My take is that with these words you evidence yet again the emotional pain that you are feeling as a result of your suppressed understanding that you have been taken by the claims that have been made for the purest and most dangerous Get Rich Quick scheme ever concocted by the human mind, Banned.

    I wish you all good things, in any event.

    Rob, the Fellow Who Hates to See His Goon Friends Suffer Such Pain at a Time When We All Have Available to Us the Research Showing Us How to Reduce the RIsk of Stock Investing by 70 Percent

  23. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    I guess my $4 million net worth and dividend income cash flow are figments of my imagination.

    The idea that following a pure GRQ strategy helped you acquire that amount is certainly a figment of your imagination, Banned.

    There’s 32 years of peer-reviewed academic research showing that.

    If Get Rich Quick worked, you wouldn’t be so angry.

    That’s my sincere take re this important matter, in any event.

    Rob, the Fellow Who Believes That a True Research-Based Strategy Would Not Fill Its Advocates With Such a Burning Hate for the Past 21 Years of Peer-Reviewed Research in This Field

  24. The Pink Unicorn says

    July 26, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Rob,

    You are quoting my statement, not banned’s statement. The pain is all yours and it has manifested over your continued mental decline as a result of getting kicked off a large number of financial boards.

    You are not helping anyone. Middles class America suffers due to lack of savings resulting from overspending. The people you call goons are doing fine because we know how to implement long term savings/investment strategies and don’t need to rely on get rich quick schemes of market timing that ultimately fail. Instead, we take a long tell, slow and steady approach.

    The Pink Unicorn
    A Factually driven Unicorn who doesn’t make silly threats when people don’t agree with my opinions

  25. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    That all makes good sense, Pink.

    Please take good care, my old friend.

    Rob the Fellow Who Can Recognize a Post That Makes Good Sense When He Sees One (I Think!)

  26. bannwd plop contributor says

    July 26, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    Hows that new book coming Rob?

    Are you hoping it will be as successful as your first?

    Passion Saving
    Hardcover: 248 pages
    Publisher: The Freedom Store, LLC (2005)
    Language: English
    ASIN: B000K9020O
    Average Customer Review: 1.0 out of 5
    Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #7,997,673

    http://www.fonerbooks.com/surfing.htm

  27. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    You’ve persuaded me, Banned.

    The safe withdrawal rate is always 4 percent.

    Buy-and-Hold is a research-based strategy.

    The economic crisis just happened, no one knows why.

    Rob the Realist

  28. I am scared says

    July 26, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    Oh, no. Rob Bennett is going to put everyone in jail and is going to take all our money when he wins those big lawsuits. If only we had made all those evil people reinstate Rob on all the message boards and agreed with every word Rob said, then we wouldn’t face this horrible wrath. I never should have joined the secret mass goon conspiracy. In fact, I am going to send back my decoder ring, club blazer and commemorative club plaque right now so that I can wash my hands of all this.

    Oh,please King Rob, have mercy on me.

  29. Rob says

    July 26, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    I responded to this one in more depth on the other thread.

    I’ll do what I can, Scared.

    Please hang in there.

    Rob, the Non-Superman

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