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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
    Everybody Would Be Doing It."



    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "The Expected Return of Stocks [As Reported By The Stock-Return Predictor] Needs To Be At Least the Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) Rate for Stock Investing To Make Sense."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I Have Used Valuations to Adjust My Asset Allocation For Many Years With Very Favorable Results."





    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "I Don't Care If You Do or Don't Believe That the Market Will Behave Similarly in the Future As It Has in the Past. Either Way, This [The Stock-Return Predictor] Is an Excellent Way to Understand What the Market Has Done In the Past."


    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "My Role Is To Give People Who Don't Like What the Historical Stock-Return Data Says About the Effect of Valuations on Long-Term Returns Somebody To Yell At On Internet Discussion Boards."



    Rob Bennett at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "It Really Is a Shame and Indefensible That So Many Feel the Need to Jump Into It With No Interest of Posting on the Topic But Just to Disrupt. Are You That Insecure? Some on the Forum Have an Interest in This Topic. If You Don't, Stay Out!"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "Irrational Behavior Does Follow Patterns. But How Many Experts in Behavioral Finance Believe That Such Knowledge Can Be Used to Predict Markets? Basically, None. Your Model Cannot Attain the Level of Predictive Value You Claim."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "The Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Are Based on History. This [The Retirement Risk Evaluator] Shows, Based on the Same History, What the Probabilities Are for the Future at Various Starting Points. If the First Has Value, Then Surely This Does Too."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum

  • "There Are Hundreds of People Who Contributed to This. This Calculator [The Stock-Return Predictor] Demonstrates in a Compelling Way the Power of This New Internet Discussion-Board Communications Medium."




    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "A P/E10 of'26' Is Bad. Now Look at the 30-Year Return Predicted by the Calculator -- 5.4 Percent Real. That's Not Bad. There Are All Sorts of Strategic Implications That Follow From Understanding That Stocks Provide Different Sorts of Returns Over Different Sorts of Time-Periods."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Would Never Invest in Anything Without Having Any Idea What the Expected Return Is. For Instance, I Would Not Walk Into a Bank And Say "I'll Take One Certificate of Deposit, Please" WIthout Asking What Rate They Are Offering."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


    Rob Bennett

  • "The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Over. Rob Bennett Has Won.The Technical Evidence Supporting This Assertion Is Rock Solid."




    John Walter Russell,
    Owner of the Early Retirement Planning Insights Site
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on August 3, 2003.]

  • "I Am Afraid that the Emperor SWR [for "Safe Withdrawal Rate"] Has No Clothes."





    A Poster at the Early Retirement Forum
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on October 8, 2003.]

  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "Dear Rob -- I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September. Since Then, I've Read Archives From Many Discussion Boards and Websites, and I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "I Think Rob Bennett Did Provide An Important Contribution in Terms of Describing a Way for P/E10 to Guide Asset Allocation for Long-Term Conservative Investors. I Also Think He Was Right on the Issue of Safe Withdrawal Rates."


    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum After His Own Search of the Literature Turned Up Not a Single Such Study

  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Your Work Is at Odds with the Ethos of the Board -- Here the Theme is John Bogle's Philosophy, Which Eschews Market Timing. This Board Came Into Existence to ESCAPE One Individual, the Very Individual With Whom You Have Openly Aligned Yourself."




    A Lindaurhead (to Researcher Wade Pfau)

  • "The Problem With Long-Term Market Timing Is That It Takes Too Long to Find Out If You Are Right or Wrong."






    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Why Is It Such an Odious Violation of the Tenets of Bogleheadism to Explore Whether Someone Who Has Enough Patience Might Be Able to Benefit from the Transitory Nature of Speculative Returns (the Idea That the P/E Ratio Eventually Ends Up Where It Started)?"




    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Let Me Explain Why I Posted About This Here. Valuation-Informed Indexing Has Had Critics for Years. But Until Norbert Did It In 2008, Nobody Seemed to Have Provided a Serious Investigation of It. I Couldn't Understand Why. That Bothered Me."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "If You Really Don't Like Market Timing in Any and All Forms, You May Not See Any Point in an Empirical Investigation. You View Me as One of a Long Line of Hucksters Trying to Sell You Some Snake Oil. I Don't Want to Be Such a Person."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, in an E-Mail to Rob

  • "I Definitely Need to Cite You as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, As I Have Not Found Anyone Else Who Can Lay Claim to That. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation, As Far As I Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "I Tested a Wide Variety of Assumptions About Asset Allocation, Valuation-Based Decision Rules, Whether the Period Is 10, 20, 30 or 40 Years, and Lump-Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging To Show That the Results Are Quite Robust to Changes In Any of These Assumptions."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!"




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau
    (Wade Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton.)
    (The Buy-and-Hold Mafia Threatened to Get Wade Fired From His Job When He Reported His Findings.)

  • "I Wrote Up the Programs to Test Your Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Against Buy-and-Hold and I Am Quite Excited. You Say in the RobCast That VII Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time. I Am Getting Results That Support This."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Never Underestimate the Power of a Dominant Academic Idea to Choke Off Competing Ideas, and Never Underestimate the Unwillingness of Academics to Change Their Views in the Face of Evidence. They Have Decades of Their Research and Academic Standing to Defend."




    Jeremy Grantham

  • "There's So Much That's False and Nutty
    in Modern Investing Practice."






    Warren Buffett

  • "Following Conventional Wisdom Has Led a Generation of Investors Down the Road to Ruin."






    Steve Hanke

  • "It Is Sad That the Idea That Price Doesn't Matter...Should Ever Have Been Seriously Considered".






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "The Conventional Wisdom of Modern Investing Is Largely Myth and Urban Legend."





    Rob Arnott, Former Editor of
    Fianncial Analysts Journal

  • "Economics Is a Dog's Breakfast of Theoretical Ideas and Alleged Causal Relationships That Are At All Times Unproven and In Dispute."





    Terence Corcoran, Editor of National Post

  • "Since They Did Not Diagnose the Disease, There Is Little Popular Confidence That They Know the Cure. What If Economics Is, Actually, At the Same Level as Medicine Was When Doctors Still Believed in the Application of Leeches?"




    Gideon Rachman, Financial Times

  • "One of the Most Remarkable Errors
    in the History of Economics."



    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller
    (Referring to the Logical Leap from the Finding That Short-Term Price Changes Are Unpredictable to the Conclusion That the Market Sets Prices Properly)

  • "Everything Has Fallen Apart."






    Peter Bernstein, Author of Against the Gods
    (Referring to Old Views About How Markets Work)

  • "We Wonder Why Funds and Banks, Full of the Best and Brightest, Have Made Such a Mess of Things. Part of the Reason Is That We Have Taught Economic Nonsense to Two Generations of Students."




    John Mauldin, Thoughts From the Frontline

  • "Perhaps Most Scandalously, the Theory [Behind Buy-and-Hold] Remained Received Wisdom Long After Empirical and Theoretical Arguments Had Demolished It Within the Academic Community."




    John Authers, Financial Times

  • "I Love the Humans Dearly (the Title of the Book I Am Writing Is Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life) But They Can Be a Trial at Times. Hey! Helping the Humans Learn What It Takes to Invest Effectively Is Not All That Different From Being Married!



    Rob Bennett

  • "We Are Going to See Hearts Melt Following the Next Crash. I Will Be Working Side-By-Side With All of My Many Buy-and-Hold Friends to Rebuild Our Broken Economy."





    Rob Bennett

  • "Wow, I Did Not Realize You Had Achieved This Much Success and Had Many Devoted Believers/Followers. That’s Great, Then Ignore the Opposition. It Is Great to Have Opposition: That Means You Are Doing Something Right."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Do NOT Believe I Know It All. I Believe That Shiller Discovered Something Very Important and It Appalls Me That More People Are Not Exploring the Implications of His Findings. My Aim Is To Launch a National Debate."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Can See How Many Readers Would Be Put Off by the Somewhat Sensational/Scandalist Tone and Would Not Persevere to Read, Thinking You Are Losing Your Mind."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I LOVE Everything About Buy-and-Hold Other Than the Failure to Encourage Investors to Take Price Into Consideration When Setting Their Stock Allocations. That's a Mistake That Was Made Because Shiller’s Research Was Not Available at the Time The Strategy Was Being Developed."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up In My Classrooms and in My Students' Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade)."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Can Confirm Wade Pfau's Experience. Whenever I Send My Papers to the Financial Analysts Journal or Similar Traditional Journals, I Get Rejected."





    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "As a Fan of Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, I Know That Progress Can Be Frustratingly Slow and What Is Typically Needed Is Either a Crisis or the Ascent of a New Generation of Scientists Who Did Not Build Their Careers on the Old Models and Theories."




    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "We Trace the Deeper Roots [of the Financial Crisis] to the Economics' Profession's Insistence on Constructing Models That, By Design, Disregard the Key Elements Driving Outcomes in Real World Markets."




    Knowledge@Wharton

  • "Rob Gets Himself So Worked Up Over What Someone Else Is Doing With Their Own Money and Not Bothering Rob in the Least. As Long As They Aren't Knocking on Your Basement Door, What Do You Care? They Are Happy and Content. Leave Well Enough Alone and Focus on Your Own Account."


    Dab, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Been on Forum Since the BBS Days and I Think Rob is Special. He Could Be an Internet Meme If He Put Some Effort Into It. Someday, He Will Realize That the Only Thing He's Good At Is Being an Epic Loser. He Just Needs to Embrace That Idea and Run With It. Watch Out, LOLCats, Here Comes Pathetic Guy!"


    Wabmaster, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "Your Lies Are Not Even in the Realm of the Possible, Much Less Actually Credible, Much Less Actually True."






    Drip Guy, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I'm Your Friend. I Am Not a Boil on Your Ass."






    Rob Bennett, In a Response Comment
    to One of the Greaney Goons

  • "You Guys [the Greaney Goons] Are the Same Jokers Who Have Done This Before, Sparring with Rob Over Nonsensical Issues On This Site and Others, Leveling Personal Attacks, and You Don't Even Use Real Names! Rob Is Entitled to His Opinion, But the Fact That You Challenge Every Jot and Tittle of What He Says Makes It Clear You Have An Unholy Agenda. Please Take It Elsehwere."

    Kevin Mercadante,
    Owner of the Out of Your Rut Site

  • "Rob, Take This As Friendly Advice. You're a Smart and Articulate Guy and You Could Be Making Valuable Contributions to This Discussion. I've Dealt with the Mentally Ill Before and I've Found That They Sometimes Can Be Reasonable If Gently Redirected."



    Goon Poster

  • "Always Remember Others May Hate You, But Those Who Hate You Don't Win Unless You Hate Them, and Then You Destroy Yourself."





    Richard Nixon

  • "I’m a Numbers Guy. And I Believe I Understand Rob’s Thesis, that Future Returns, Over the Next Decade, Have a Tight Inverse Correlation to the PE10 for the Starting Point. Remember, Correlation Doesn’t Need to be 100%, Only That There’s a Bell Curve of Potential Outcomes that Shift Meaningfully Based on the Input."


    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "What a Difference a Threat to Get the Father of Two Small Children Fired From His Job Has on an Investing Discussion, Eh? Long Live Buy-and-Hold! It’s Science! With a Marketing Twist!"




    Rob, Referring to the Wade Pfau Matter

  • "I Respect Rob and His Analysis. He's Bright, Energetic and Passionate. [The Goon Stuff] Is Really Nonsense. I Enjoy a Thought-Provoking Conversation With People I Respect."





    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "The Fact that Shiller is a Proponent of the Approach Takes it from a Fringe View to Mainstream, in my Opinion."






    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "I Have had Academic Researchers Tell Me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to do Honest Research Once Again. I Have had Investment Advisors Tell me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to Give Honest Investing Advice Again."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Let’s Call a Spade a Spade, Shall We? Wade Pfau Stole Your Research and Put His Name on it, Throwing You Just a Tiny Crumb of Acknowledgement to Ward Off a Lawsuit. He’s Profiting Handsomely By His Theft, Leading a Charmed Life, Widely Published, Widely Respected. While Rob Bennett Continues to Toil in Total Obscurity. It’s So Incredibly Unfair, I Think If It Happened to Me, It Could Actually Drive Me Insane."

    One of the Greaney Goons

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“There Are Hundreds of Smart Bloggers Who Would LOVE to Be Making Millions From Their Blogs and Who Today Are Not Doing So. All They Need to Do Is To Turn Their Efforts to Further Development of the Valuation-Informed Indexing Concept. The Only Reason Why They Don’t Do It Is That They Fear What You Goons Would Do to Them and Their Businesses If They Began Posting Honestly.”

May 6, 2015 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to another blog entry at this site:

“How will I profit? It’s impossible even to count the ways, Yogi. ”

Try, Rob.

Try.

Just one would be a start.

We now know that emotion (valuations) is 80 percent of the stock investing story, Yogi.

I think it would be fair to say that I am the world expert on the ways in which investors engage in self-deception to persuade themselves that the inflated numbers on their portfolio statements are real. There are THOUSANDS of articles and blog posts and podcasts and columns at this site detailing in great depth how it is done. I will be making money for many years to come using that material to help investors understand how stock investing works in the real world through the publication of books and by giving speeches and by creating CD products and through personal consulting and on and on and on.

Shiller’s 1981 finding changed the history of investing analysis in a profound way. He “revolutionized” (the word is Shiller’s) the field. We have as a society delayed our recognition of his earth-shaking accomplishment. But we are not going to have any choice about going forward following the next price crash. From that point forward, nothing will ever be the same again.

Shiller and Fama say opposite things. They cannot both be right. It is a logical impossibility.

If Fama is right, we are doing fine. 95 percent of the investing advice that the average investor hears is rooted in Fama’s research.

But what if Fama is wrong? What if Shiller is right (there is now 33 years of peer-reviewed research showing this to be so)? If that’s so, then we should be in an economic crisis today. If that’s so, we are on our way to the Second Great Depression. If that’s so, we should be seeing threats of violence and career destruction on the part of the Buy-and-Holders in a futile effort to keep their strategy going for a few more months or a few more years.

If Shiller is right (and I obviously believe strongly that he is), the investing advice field is today in the process of being rebuilt from the bottom up. That’s why the Buy-and-Holders fight so hard. They know the stakes as well as I do. If valuations matter, Buy-and-Hold is not just wrong, it is the purest and most dangerous Get Rich Quick scheme ever concocted by the human mind.

Valuations (investor emotion) is no small thing, Yogi. Either it is nothing (as Fama theorized) or it is 80 percent of the stock investing story. I have played the lead role for 12 years now in getting accurate and honest reports of what the last 33 years of peer-reviewed research says out to millions of middle-class investors. I have zero fear that there will not be thousands upon thousands of money-making opportunities opening up to me once we pull together as a society to open every board and blog on the internet to honest posting. I will have far too many money-making opportunities available to me following that day than I will possibly be able to handle by myself. I will be hiring teams of people to help me take advantage of all the opportunities that will be open to me once this story gets out.

Does Jack Bogle have ways to make money?

Does Robert Shiller have ways to make money?

Does Rob Arnott have ways to make money?

Does Bill Bernstein have ways to make money?

The shift from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing is a bigger accomplishment than anything that any of those four has enjoyed. It was Shiller who showed that Buy-and-Hold doesn’t work, not me. But Shiller has not yet written clearly about the practical how-to IMPLICATIONS of his amazing research findings. I am the first to have done that in a comprehensive way. That’s huge. And achieving huge breakthroughs like that lead to tons of money in the long run in the society in which we live in today. (I think that’s entirely appropriate. Some might disagree. But, whether one agrees or not that it is appropriate, that certainly is the case).

It won’t just be me making tons of money once the internet is opened to honest posting. There will be hundreds of us, thousands of us. There are hundreds of smart bloggers who would LOVE to be making millions from their blogs and who today are not doing so. All they need to do is to turn their efforts to further development of the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept. The only reason why they don’t do it is that they fear what you Goons would do to them and their businesses if they began posting honestly.

Do you really think that they are going to continue to live in fear following the next price crash?

They are not. They are going to work up the courage to go for the money. And we are all going to be a lot better off as a result. People SHOULD be rewarded for giving accurate and honest investing advice. Seeing that the thousands of people who will be further developing the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept receive financial rewards for their efforts is in the best interests of every person alive in the United States today.

We have had big advances in the computer field since 1981, no? There was no internet in 1981. Now there is. Thousands of people made fortunes as a result of the development of the internet. There was no YouTube in 1981. Now there is. Thousands of people made fortunes as a result of the development of YouTube (there was an article on the front page of the New York Times on this just last Friday). There were no laptops or tablets or smart phones in 1981. Now there are. Thousands of people made fortunes as a result of the development of laptops and tablets and and smart phones.

Say that there has been a Typewriter Mafia back in 1981 that has devoted hundreds of billions of marketing money to seeing that no one could succeed in selling computers. We would today be a poorer people as a result. The advances that we have seen in the investing advice field over the past 33 years are 50 times greater than the advances we have seen in the computer field. The only reason why we have not seen thousands and thousands and thousands of millionaires made through the promotion of the first true research-based strategy is that the Buy-and-Hold Mafia has possessed the power to keep us all in the Dark Ages re our understanding of how stock investing works in the real world.

But for how much longer?

The next step down is the Second Great Depression, Yogi. Do you think people are going to stand for that? I do not. I love my country. I have noticed by reading history that my country has in the past always possessed the intelligence and fortitude and love to overcome forces like the Buy-and-Hold Mafia. I believe that we will prevail once again. When we do, no one is going to be able to count the money that will be flowing in to those who worked up the courage to post in support of those offering honest investing advice.

Money is what this whole freakin’ saga is about. If there weren’t so much darned money in pushing Get Rich Quick garbage, everyone in the field would have made the shift from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing by January 1982. The problem is that the big shots in this field love the marketing edge that comes from saying that their advice is research-based but cannot bear to give up the short-term wealth that comes from pushing Get Rich Quick garbage. Buy-and-Hold gives them the best of both worlds, in their eyes. It is pure Get Rich Quick garbage. So it makes them all rich beyond their wildest hopes. But because Fama made a mistake back in 1965 and many of us have been too afraid to say that in clear and firm and simple language in the three decades since, they have been able to make claims that there is research supporting these “ideas.”

The problem with spending billions of dollars promoting the purest and most dangerous Get Rich Quick strategy ever concocted by the human mind is that doing so eventually causes the collapse of the economic system in which you live. And the collapse of the economic system eventually causes the collapse of the political system. Lots of the people who push Buy-and-Hold are very wealthy people as a result of doing so and don’t want to get off the gravy train. But do they have any real choice? Where are they going to spend their money when the economic and political system of the United States collapses? In an ultimate sense Jack Bogle has as much of a motivation to see that honest posting be permitted as I do.

These people are today suffering from cognitive dissonance. They are telling themselves that pushing the purest and most dangerous Get Rich Quick scheme ever concocted by the human mind might work out in the long run, they are trying to hang on to a belief that we will NOT see an economic or political collapse.

But based on what do they believe this?

In 12 years they have not been able to find any support in the peer-reviewed academic research for this belief of theirs.

I am a research-oriented guy, Yogi. I believe that we are going to see the economic collapse that the last 33 years of peer-reviewed research says we are going to see.

And I believe that my many Buy-and-Hold friends are going to flip shortly after we see that collapse. I believe that my good friend Jack Bogle is a good man. I believe that he is going to be my biggest booster in days to come. With Jack’s help, I am going to experience no problems receiving that $500 million paycheck or taking over ownership of the Bogleheads Forum or being invited to give the keynote address to the next FinCon event or bringing thousands upon thousands of community members to this site or profiting from books and speeches and CD packages and consulting arrangements and on and on and on.

I am not a multi-millionaire today only because my good friend Jack Bogle has not yet worked up the courage to say the three magic words “I” and “Was” and “Wrong.” But Jack is going to work up the courage to do that. He has no choice if he wants to save from economic ruin the country he loves and that has blessed him in so many ways. So Old Saint Jack is in days to come going to work up the courage to do what he should have done 33 years ago. And from that point forward we will ALL be in much more favorable financial circumstances. But that will be so for me especially. Because I am the one who has been fighting so hard for 12 years now for a principle that Old Saint Jack first articulated many years back — INVESTORS SHOULD BE ROOTING THEIR INVESTING STRATEGIES IN THE PEER-REVIEWED RESEARCH.

I’m not too worried about making money, Yogi. I would like to see it happen soon. I would like to have seen it begin happening on the morning of May 13, 2002. So I do want to see a change in that department. But that is not the thing that I worry about most.

I worry that the economic collapse will get out of hand and that even working together we will not be able to turn things around in time. I don’t think that that is how things will play out. But the fact that there is even a small chance that things might play out that way scares me to death.

That’s my primary worry, not the money thing. The money thing will work out more than fine so long as Jack eventually works up the courage to say The Three Magic Words. And he doesn’t exactly have much choice, does he? He loves his country, does he not?

I say that Jack Bogle loves his country. I am sure.

So I see good things happening for all of us in days to come, Yogi.

My best and warmest wishes to you and yours.

Rob

Filed Under: From Buy/Hold to VII

Comments

  1. Dizzy says

    May 6, 2015 at 9:03 am

    It’s difficult to fathom your motivation. By all observable evidence, your sole purpose for this site is to irritate anyone who bothers to comment. But then you seem genuinely baffled by your unpopularity. Puzzling.

  2. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 9:39 am

    Did you ever hear a football coach yelling at his players in the hot August sun that they need to stop being such sissies and run harder and hit harder?

    Did you ever see someone who is trying to lose weight put a photo of his or her fat self on the refrigerator as a motivational tool that will kick in when he or she goes looking for another can of soda or another bowl of ice cream?

    Did you ever notice that the best teachers are the one who are not afraid to give their students a grade less than “A+.”

    We all like to give positive feedback. It makes us feel good to make others feel good. And in the investment advice field, there is huge money to be made in encouraging people to believe that Buy-and-Hold strategies can work.

    In the long-term, however, there is more profit to be made in being honest than in churning out even more of the smelly Get Rich Quick flattery garbage.

    Or so Rob Bennett sincerely believes.

    I am not just unpopular. I am very, very, very unpopular with you Buy-and-Hold Goons. But a big part of the reason why you Buy-and-Hold Goons hate me so much is that I am so insanely popular with non-Goon Buy-and-Holders. There are millions of people out there who follow Buy-and-Hold strategies only because they don’t know about the 34 years of peer-reviwed research showing that there is precisely zero chance that this “strategy” could ever work for a single long-term investor and who very, very much want to see the Ban on Honest Posting on that 34 years of peer-reviewed research lifted. You only hate me because those people love me, Dizzy. Take away the thousands of posters who have demonstrated a desire to be able to hear honest posting and none of this would upset you so.

    Is it understandable that those who tell the truth about stock investing would be unpopular when there is so much money to be made by lying to people about what the peer-reviewed research says? In a sick way, that makes a certain amount of sense. Flattery is an easy way to make a buck. Peer-reviewed research makes it impossible for those who push an investing strategy rooted in flattery to make a buck with their flattery. That’s why I fell in love with the idea of using the peer-reviewed research as a guide (an idea that I learned about from my Buy-and-Hold friends!) in the first place. Peer-reviewed research is objective and real. It takes us out of the flattery zone and exposes those who are just in this field to make a smelly buck no matter how much it hurts their readers and clients and indeed their country.

    My words irritate anyone trying to believe that this might be the first time in history that the pure Get Rich Quick approach might work for one or two long-term investors either in this solar system or is some distant alternative one.

    Good.

    IT’S MY JOB to irritate those people.

    The Bennett/Pfau research shows that 70 percent of the risk of stock investing is rooted in the reality that we all have a Get Rich Quick urge and the Wall Street Con Men know that there is a mountain of money to be made exploiting that urge. I once believed in Buy-and-Hold myself. I am not saying that I am better than the millions of middle-class people who fell for the con.

    What I am saying is that I did not become a Buy-and-Holder because I wanted to be taken in by a con. And I don’t believe that the millions of middle-class people whose lives are in the process of being destroyed became Buy-and-Holders for that reason either.

    I thought that all the garbage was real. They think that too.

    Yes, it irritates them to know that they were taken. The fact that telling the truth to people who have been taken irritates them makes my job a hard one. That much is certainly so.

    At least it doesn’t get me sent to prison!

    Joining you in your massive act of financial fraud would get me sent to prison. Um — No thanks, friend.

    Yes, I irritate people who still have dreams that all the rules of stock investing might be turned on their heads this time, just as the Wall Street Con Men and their Internet Goon Squads assure them. But at least the research-based stuff that I push works.

    So over time more and more people come around to my way of thinking while fewer and fewer come around to your way of thinking.

    That’s the path that I have chosen. And I certainly have never doubted the wisdom of taking it for even two seconds. I made the right call on the morning of May 13, 2002. The mountain of evidence showing that to be so has grown higher and higher on every day of the first 13 years of our Debate About Having a Debate.

    I believe that the next price crash will irritate people 500 more times than any words that I have ever put forward.

    And I believe that a good percentage of those irritated will then go looking for explanations of how they happened to lose most of their retirement money.

    This site tells the story.

    I believe that what they find at this site will make them angry. Not at those who irritated them by telling the truth about what the last 34 years of peer-reviewed research shows. At those who blocked them from learning what they very, very, very much needed to know about the corruption on Wall Street and how it brought on this economic crisis.

    I will be doing what I can at that time to keep your prison sentence a bit shorter than what the millions of middle-class investors whose lives you will have destroyed will want it to be. I don’t say that I will have great success in my efforts. I don’t think I will. But you have my pledge that I will give the matter my best shot.

    And that’s as far as I can go without committing acts likely to get me thrown in prison along with you.

    Um — find somebody else, you know? I can’t go for that. No can do.

    But what do I know? We’ll have to wait a bit to see how things actually play out in the real world.

    I naturally wish you the best of luck in all your future life endeavors.

    Rob

  3. Anonymous says

    May 6, 2015 at 10:22 am

    They probably noted the level of success you’ve had, and decided to find more profitable blog content.

    Some folks like to be able to take their kids to Disneyland, no?

  4. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 11:57 am

    If that’s so (and I believe that to a large extent it is), that’s good news for the future.

    We learned what works in stock investing in 1981. The ordinary way to proceed is to start teaching people what works as soon as we learn what works. There were many years in which people had come to very different conclusions. So not everyone was going to switch over to the new thinking on the day after Shiller published his “revolutionary” (his word) research. So if things had proceeded in the usual way, we would have had 90 percent Buy-and-Holders and 10 percent Valuation-Informed Indexers in 1981. And then the percentages would have gradually shifted in the VII direction year by year so that today it would be 90 percent Valuation-Informed Indexers and 10 percent Buy-and-Holders.

    Things obviously did not proceed in that manner. The Buy-and-Holders went into cover-up mode rather than encouraging and participating in a national debate re the breakthrough finding that valuations affect long-term returns (and that the market is thus not efficient and long-term timing is 100 percent required). As the research-based case against Buy-and-Hold grew stronger and stronger and stronger, the tactics used by the Wall Street Con Men to block millions of middle-class investors from learning what they very, very much need to know became more and more brutally abusive. Until today, we have lots of Wall Street Con Men and lots of members of their Internet Goon Squads looking at long prison sentences to begin following the next price crash.

    The criminal behavior of the Buy-and-Holders has SLOWED the transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing. It hasn’t stopped it. As you point out, people like to have successful blogs. So people have held back from exploring the implications of the recent research so as to avoid having their careers destroyed by you Goons.

    The announcement of your prison sentence flips that, Anonymous. When word gets out that those who lie about the last 34 years of peer-reviewed research are landing in prison cells, what do you think the people who want to have profitable blog content are going to do? They are going to run from Buy-and-Hold at a very, very, very fast pace.

    The transition should have been gradual. Because of the criminal behavior, it will be sudden. In an overall sense, it’s unfortunate that things played out as they did. But it is certainly a good thing that it is not going to take 34 years for us to increase the percentage following VII strategies to 90 percent, that we are going to be able to do it in a year or two.

    Had things been done the right way, I would not today be in line to receive a $500 million settlement payment. I am not saying that that reality makes me happy that things played out this way. I would have preferred to have received a whole big bunch less than $500 million in compensation and not to have millions of people on the road to experiencing failed retirements.

    But given the realities that apply, I’ll take it!

    Given that there has been a 13-year delay in getting the word out to people, it’s better that we will be able to get the word out in six months or a year or two years rather than having it take the 30 years that it might take if ordinary procedures were followed. And lots of other people will be making millions giving honest investing advice following the crash. So there are lots of people who will be seeing outsized benefits just for being honest. And that reality will cause the momentum to grow all the faster.

    The promotion of Buy-and-Hold strategies has caused four economic crises. Following the first three, we eventually fell for the smelly Buy-and-Hold garbage once again. The difference is that there was not 34 years of peer-reviewed research showing the dangers of Buy-and-Hold following the three earlier crises. This time there is. So this time those who engaged in criminal behavior will be going to prison. That is going to make a difference. When Buy-and-Hold goes down this time, it ain’t ever coming back.

    Good.

    People like to take their kids to Disneyland. The transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing is the biggest advance in the history of personal finance. There is nothing even in a close second place. MILLIONS of middle-class people who could not afford to take their kids to Disneyland in earlier days will be able to do so not long following the announcement of your prison sentence, Anonynmous.

    I think it is wonderful. I cannot wait. I think it shows the wonders of our political system that as a people we were smart enough to adopt laws making financial fraud a felony before you Goons even showed up to darken our collective doorstop.

    My best and warmest wishes to you and yours, Goon friend.

    Rob

  5. Evidence Based Investing says

    May 6, 2015 at 12:10 pm

    I am so insanely popular with non-Goon Buy-and-Holders.

    So popular in fact that not one “non-Goon Buy-and-Holder” posts at your blog or comments on your Value Walk articles or interacts with you on twitter.

  6. The Massive Goon Conspiracy says

    May 6, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    It is all just one big mass conspiracy. Hopefully, Rob won’t find our secret hideout and uncover all our secret plans.

  7. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    What you are saying is so, Evidence.

    I want that to change.

    It’s not going to change if all of us who want to post honestly live in fear of the Buy-and-Hold Mafia, is it?

    We need to stand up to them. We need to protect each other. We need to get those who have posted in “defense” of Mel Lindauer and John Greaney and Jack Bogle sent to prison.

    Then it’s all downhill sledding.

    I wish that someone had done it before I came along. That would have saved me a lot of grief.

    How do you think the people who come after me are going to feel about all the grief I save them?

    They are going to feel very grateful.

    When you see criminal behavior, the thing to do is not to run from it. The thing to do is to report it, to expose it, to bring it to a full and complete stop.

    Once I am free to post honestly, we are ALL free to post honestly.

    Once we are all free to post honestly re safe withdrawal rates, we are all free to post re ALL critically important investment-related topics.

    I wish that this part was not necessary. Obviously.

    But it IS necessary. You Goons are not going to just walk to the police station and turn yourselves in. Goons don’t do that sort of thing. If you were inclined to do something like that, you would never have become a Goon in the first place.

    So this is part of a process that must be played out.

    It’s a pain. It’s a stone-cold drag.

    But it’s worth it for what is waiting on the other side.

    10,000 times over.

    My take.

    I wish you all good things.

    Rob

  8. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    It is all just one big mass conspiracy. Hopefully, Rob won’t find our secret hideout and uncover all our secret plans.

    I already know the name of your secret hideout, Massive. It’s called Planet Internet.

    And I know your secret plan. Your secret plan is to make use of ever low-handed trick you can think of to be able to remain in Planet Ignorance for ever and ever and ever.

    If you did that only for yourself, I would wish you the best of luck with it.

    When you go beyond that and engage in trickery that keeps millions of middle-class investors in Planet Ignorance along with you, that becomes an important public policy matter. When you engage in financial fraud to protect people from learning things that they have expressed a desire to be able to learn, that’s financial fraud. That’s a crime, a felony. That’s prison time.

    Planet Ignorance is not for me. Sue me.

    Going to prison is not high on my bucket list.

    Find someone else.

    Rob

  9. Dizzy says

    May 6, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    “I want that to change.”

    No you don’t. All you want is to dictate and not be challenged. You censor here more than the Kremlin ever did. Unfortunately other sites won’t give you censorship power, which is why you refuse to venture out anymore. Still, since this site has gotten so godawful stale, here’s a suggestion that might just inject a little life: Open Posting Day!

    No? Didn’t think so.

  10. Anonymous says

    May 6, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    “We need to get those who have posted in “defense” of Mel Lindauer and John Greaney and Jack Bogle sent to prison.”

    The school that proffered a law degree onto you should hide their face in shame. AFTER they withdraw your diploma. And sure, why not go ahead and call that a threat if you like, you laughable dipsh*t.

  11. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    A non-Goon would have said “you lovable dipshit.”

    That’s how you can recognize a Goon. They always take it a step too far.

    My best and warmest wishes to you and yours, Anonymous.

    Rob, the Lovable Dipshit

  12. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    here’s a suggestion that might just inject a little life: Open Posting Day!

    All of the non-Goons will feel free to say what they truly believe once you Goons are put safely inside prison cells, Dizzy. That’s the magic of the laws making financial fraud a felony.

    Do you see?

    Rob

  13. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 5:20 pm

    All you want is to dictate and not be challenged. You censor here more than the Kremlin ever did.

    I’m a meanie. Everybody knows that.

    Rob

  14. Evidence Based Investing says

    May 6, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    Once I am free to post honestly, we are ALL free to post honestly.

    You are free to post honestly on this blog.

    And the result is “No comments” from anyone other that those you refer to as goons.

  15. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    And the people of the United States are free to enforce the laws against financial fraud following the next price crash and put you in a prison cell, Evidence.

    I think you are crazy to play it the way you have played it. But it’s not my call. You make the call as to whether you commit felonies or not.

    I ain’t committing no felonies. I ain’t even giving it two seconds of consideration.

    So we are just going to have to wait to see how it all plays out.

    I wish you the best of luck with it.

    Fair enough?

    Rob

  16. Evidence Based Investing says

    May 6, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    And the people of the United States are free to enforce the laws against financial fraud following the next price crash and put you in a prison cell, Evidence.

    Asking you questions that you can’t answer and pointing out that the vast majority of your output is worthless nonsense does not constitute financial fraud.

    As you own this blog you are free to link to any statement that I have made that you consider to be financial fraud.

    You will of course not be able to do so.

  17. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    Your jury will decide the matter, Evidence.

    That’s how our system works.

    I naturally wish you all good things.

    Rob

  18. Evidence Based Investing says

    May 6, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    Your inability to link to any evidence of financial fraud suggests I won’t be appearing in front of any jury.

  19. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    The contents of the entire web site constitute the evidence against you, Evidence.

    The fact that you Goons post here daily shows that you are a lot more worried about it than you let on.

    I’m telling the story. That’s all. I don’t decide whether you go to prison or not and I have zero interest in gaining the power to decide that. What I say doesn’t matter except to the extent that it prompts others to take action following the price crash.

    We’re just going to have to wait to see how it all plays out, Evidence. That’s the bottom line. I cannot in good conscience fail to mention the prison sentences so long as there is even a tiny chance that I could help you (and lots of others) out. But I am under no illusions that the odds favor you making a good choice. So we are just going to have to wait and see what happens.

    Rob

  20. Anonymous says

    May 6, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    We cannot, in good conscience, fail to mention that you have no evidence of fraud and that it is one part of your silly fantasy.

  21. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    It sounds like we have a standoff.

    These things happen.

    Rob

  22. Anonymous says

    May 6, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    What standoff. There are no fraud charges, there are no prison sentences, there is no evidence. Case closed.

  23. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    Good point, Anonymous.

    Truly outstanding.

    Rob

  24. Anonymous says

    May 6, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    Betting your future on a fantasy of a $500 million windfall and prison for those you hate, is childish and stupid. Tell us you have a real plan to actually provide for your family.

  25. Rob says

    May 6, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    Being willing to commit a felony and go to prison because some Internet Goon Squad demands it of you is what is truly stupid, Anonymous. Find someone else.

    I’d rather bet my future on the people of the United States than bet it on the ability of a bunch of internet goons to stay out of prison one more day, one more week, one more month, one more year.

    I didn’t build the Retire Early board at Motley Fool into the most successful board at that site for the purpose of destroying the lives of the people who posted there. Those people were my friends. I will continue to stand by them.

    If we go into the Second Great Depression, my family has big problems. By posting honestly, I help the millions of middle-class Americans who need to learn the truth about what the last 34 years of peer-reviewed research says AND my family.

    Please take good care.

    Rob

  26. Anonymous says

    May 7, 2015 at 6:48 am

    If there are millions to be made, why aren’t you making millions?

  27. Rob says

    May 7, 2015 at 7:20 am

    My millions have been deferred by the biggest act of financial fraud in the history of the United States, Anonymous.

    I get the sense that you forget at times that I was once a Buy-and-Holder myself. I know why millions of middle-class investors are drawn to this strategy. People don’t want to take crazy risks with their retirement money. They want something real, something that will work in the long run. That’s what Buy-and-Hold is promoted to be. That’s what Buy-and-Hold really was (at least as far as we knew) prior to 1981. It has not been that for the past 34 years. When Bogle failed to walk to the front of a big room and say the words “I Was Wrong,” it became a con, a fraud, a Ponzi scheme a Get Rich Quick scheme. Something very, very, very different from what it was intended to be in the early years.

    That is of course an unfortunate fact. There is not one of us, Buy-and-Holder or Valuation-Informed Indexer, who wanted it to go this way. If Bogle could go back in time, he would give the speech that he failed to give. But we cannot go back in time. So we are all stuck in the place in which we are stuck.

    That reality created opportunities for people like me.

    I am no investing expert. But I am capable of reading a book. Robert Shiller has published a book detailing what the last 34 years of peer-reviewed research tells us about how stock investing works. In ordinary circumstances, there would be hundreds of web sites detailing all of the many important strategic implications that follow from the 34 years of peer-reviewed research. The massive act of financial fraud has limited it to one. I own the most important web site on the face of Planet Internet. And it’s not a close call.

    I intend to cash in. I would be a damn fool not to do so.

    And I intend to cash in on the publicity for that site that I get by exposing the biggest act of financial fraud in the history of the United States. Again, I would be a damn fool not to do so.

    There’s nothing that you can offer me that can match the benefits of continuing to post honestly. Even if you offered me the $500 million settlement payment and required that I agree to keep quiet about the massive case of financial fraud as a condition of receiving it, that wouldn’t work. I need the publicity that comes from everyone in this field coming clean at one time to realize the full monetary and educational potential of the assets that I hold today. I can agree to state things in a charitable way. Doing that does not pose problems. But I cannot lie about basic facts like whether Greaney’s retirement study contains an adjustment for the valuation level that applies on the day the retirement begins or not.

    I have made my decision as to how I am going to play this. I made that decision on the morning of May 13, 2002. I have never given two seconds of consideration to the idea of playing it any other way. If you truly think that there is some chance that I am going to flip, you are as stupid as you pretend to believe that I am.

    My course is set. I understand that you feel that your course is set too — You feel that there is a chance that the crash will not come and that it is better to bet on that chance than to turn yourself in and go to prison for a shorter amount of time. I get it. I don’t like it. But I accept it. The world is not always what we want it to be. The world is what the world is.

    We are going to have to wait it out and see whether that crash comes or not. If it does, I will be one of the richest men in the United States and you will be in a prison cell. That’s where we are. You are not going to give an inch because you don’t want to go to prison even for a relatively short time and I am not going to give an inch because I am not willing to give up my $500 million settlement payment and because I don’t like the idea of playing a role in bringing on the Second Great Depression.

    It is what it is and we are where we are. You can cry about it. But it’s not going to do you (or anyone else) any good to do so.

    I’ve made my millions. I’ve done the work. I collect after the crash. I don’t like waiting. I’ve earned the money and I want to see it deposited into my account. That’s not the way our system works in these sorts of circumstances. In these sorts of circumstances, our system says that I need to wait for the crash to come for people’s emotions to change so that they come to hate the con being worked on them as much as today they love it. So be it, you know? I love my country. I think its laws are good laws. I will wait to wait a bit to collect on the years of good work that I have done here.

    If if it not been for the massive con, I would have collected a much smaller amount of money in a much shorter amount of time while being put to a great deal less trouble. I would have preferred that option. These are the cards I was dealt. So these are the cards that I played. I am not going to cry over having been put in circumstances in which I need to wait a bit before collecting my $500 million. I mean. come freakin’ on.

    I hope that we don’t hear you crying when it comes time for you to walk into your prison cell and hear the door close on you. We all make our choices and we all have to live with the consequences that they bring on. Prison sentences come to an end someday. This does not need to be the last chapter of your life story.

    I wish you all good things. That much I can do without going to the wrong side of The Felony Line myself.

    Hang in there, man.

    Rob

  28. Rob says

    May 7, 2015 at 7:31 am

    The shorter version:

    If emotion is as strong a factor in investing as it has shown itself to be during the Buy-and-Hold years, those who have criticized Buy-and-Hold are going to be in clover following the next crash. No one alive has been as critical of Buy-and-Hold as I have been over the past 13 years. That translates into huge amounts of money once the emotion flips from loving Get Rich Quick to hating it.

    We’ll see.

    Rob

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