Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:
Note that I, nor others that comment on this board call you names , like “goon”. Notice that we don’t make threats, like prison. Notice that we behave ourselves and are mindful of community standards, keeping us from banning.
Learning anything?
Greaney has not corrected his retirement study. I pointed out the error in it on the morning of May 13, 2002. I noted that it does not contain an adjustment for the valuation level that applies on the day the retirement begins. Thousands of people have looked at the study over the course of the past 17 years and not one has been able to identify a valuation adjustment in it. So I was right re what I said.
Greaney said that the safe withdrawal rate was 4 percent. If you include a valuation adjustment, you learn that the safe withdrawal rate for those who retired in January 2000 was 1.6 percent. Greaney said that those taking a 4 percent withdrawal had “100 percent safe” retirements. The properly done studies show that the odds of those retirements lasting 30 years is only 30 percent. So they were not safe or anything even remotely close to it.
I am not willing to lie re these matters. A failed retirement is a serious life setback. So, when I am on a discussion board and someone asks “what is the safe withdrawal rate?” I post honestly. I do not say that it is always the same number, 4 percent. I say what it is for retirements beginning with the valuation level that applies at that time. That’s the dispute. That’s what you refer to as my “bad behavior.” That’s always been the dispute. I say that the Buy-and-Hold retirement studies should be corrected. You don’t want to see them corrected. That’s why we are working at cross purposes.
I could live with it if you told people that Buy-and-Holders believe that the safe withdrawal rate is always 4 percent but also let them know that those who believe in Nobel-prize-winning Economist Robert Shiller’s research showing that valuations affect long-term returns get a very different number (1.6 in January 2000, other numbers at other times). But I am not going to lie re this critically important matter. I believe that valuations affect long-term returns. If I say that I believe that the safe withdrawal rate is always the same number, I am obviously telling a lie. It’s not going to happen.
I have not threatened you with prison. I have no power to put you in prison and I have no desire to seek such power. I have pointed out that you have committed crimes that will likely get you sent to prison in the days following the next price crash. It is the U.S. statute books that threaten you with prison. Take it up with them.
By pointing out that you have committed crimes that will likely get you sent to prison, I am being a friend to you. The easy thing to do here would be to ignore the criminal acts and then act surprised when you are taken away. It won’t do you any good for me to warn you about prison when it is too late for you to help the millions of people whose retirements in danger. You can help those millions of people by doing what you can to open ever discussion board and blog on the internet to honest posting re the last 38 years of peer-reviewed research. Do that and people will be less angry in the end. Which will translate into a shorter prison term for you.
I am doing for you what I would want you to do for me if the tables were turned. I am your friend, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. I have always been your friend. I was Greaney’s friend when I pointed out the error that he made in his study. If I had made an error in a retirement study, I would be horrified. I would want people to point it out so that I could correct it before it did more harm. Greaney is off his rocker if he thinks that I was somehow being something other than his friend by pointing out the error. I am his best friend in this world. Those who fail to urge him to correct his study are being cruel. He applauds them for it. But they are being cruel all the same. They are being cruel because that is the easier path to take in the short term but one that does great harm to him in the long run.
I am Greaney’s friend and your friend for the long term. I say as a friend that you should urge him to correct the study. Or, if not that, to at the very bare minimum urge him to come clean by acknowledging that there are two schools of academic thought as to how stock investing works and that those who follow the research of Robert Shiller (Valuation-Informed Indexers) get very different numbers than the number that Greaney reports in his study.
If there is ever anything that I can do to help you, please let me know.
If you want me to turn on my friend John Greaney by pretending that I see a valuation adjustment in his study, please try to find somebody else. No freakin’ way, no freakin’ how. I would be hurting him by doing that and of course I would be hurting all of the readers of his study as well. No can do.
My best wishes to you and yours, Anonymous.
Rob


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