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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
    Everybody Would Be Doing It."



    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "The Expected Return of Stocks [As Reported By The Stock-Return Predictor] Needs To Be At Least the Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) Rate for Stock Investing To Make Sense."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I Have Used Valuations to Adjust My Asset Allocation For Many Years With Very Favorable Results."





    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "I Don't Care If You Do or Don't Believe That the Market Will Behave Similarly in the Future As It Has in the Past. Either Way, This [The Stock-Return Predictor] Is an Excellent Way to Understand What the Market Has Done In the Past."


    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "My Role Is To Give People Who Don't Like What the Historical Stock-Return Data Says About the Effect of Valuations on Long-Term Returns Somebody To Yell At On Internet Discussion Boards."



    Rob Bennett at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "It Really Is a Shame and Indefensible That So Many Feel the Need to Jump Into It With No Interest of Posting on the Topic But Just to Disrupt. Are You That Insecure? Some on the Forum Have an Interest in This Topic. If You Don't, Stay Out!"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "Irrational Behavior Does Follow Patterns. But How Many Experts in Behavioral Finance Believe That Such Knowledge Can Be Used to Predict Markets? Basically, None. Your Model Cannot Attain the Level of Predictive Value You Claim."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "The Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Are Based on History. This [The Retirement Risk Evaluator] Shows, Based on the Same History, What the Probabilities Are for the Future at Various Starting Points. If the First Has Value, Then Surely This Does Too."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum

  • "There Are Hundreds of People Who Contributed to This. This Calculator [The Stock-Return Predictor] Demonstrates in a Compelling Way the Power of This New Internet Discussion-Board Communications Medium."




    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "A P/E10 of'26' Is Bad. Now Look at the 30-Year Return Predicted by the Calculator -- 5.4 Percent Real. That's Not Bad. There Are All Sorts of Strategic Implications That Follow From Understanding That Stocks Provide Different Sorts of Returns Over Different Sorts of Time-Periods."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Would Never Invest in Anything Without Having Any Idea What the Expected Return Is. For Instance, I Would Not Walk Into a Bank And Say "I'll Take One Certificate of Deposit, Please" WIthout Asking What Rate They Are Offering."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


    Rob Bennett

  • "The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Over. Rob Bennett Has Won.The Technical Evidence Supporting This Assertion Is Rock Solid."




    John Walter Russell,
    Owner of the Early Retirement Planning Insights Site
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on August 3, 2003.]

  • "I Am Afraid that the Emperor SWR [for "Safe Withdrawal Rate"] Has No Clothes."





    A Poster at the Early Retirement Forum
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on October 8, 2003.]

  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "Dear Rob -- I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September. Since Then, I've Read Archives From Many Discussion Boards and Websites, and I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "I Think Rob Bennett Did Provide An Important Contribution in Terms of Describing a Way for P/E10 to Guide Asset Allocation for Long-Term Conservative Investors. I Also Think He Was Right on the Issue of Safe Withdrawal Rates."


    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum After His Own Search of the Literature Turned Up Not a Single Such Study

  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Your Work Is at Odds with the Ethos of the Board -- Here the Theme is John Bogle's Philosophy, Which Eschews Market Timing. This Board Came Into Existence to ESCAPE One Individual, the Very Individual With Whom You Have Openly Aligned Yourself."




    A Lindaurhead (to Researcher Wade Pfau)

  • "The Problem With Long-Term Market Timing Is That It Takes Too Long to Find Out If You Are Right or Wrong."






    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Why Is It Such an Odious Violation of the Tenets of Bogleheadism to Explore Whether Someone Who Has Enough Patience Might Be Able to Benefit from the Transitory Nature of Speculative Returns (the Idea That the P/E Ratio Eventually Ends Up Where It Started)?"




    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Let Me Explain Why I Posted About This Here. Valuation-Informed Indexing Has Had Critics for Years. But Until Norbert Did It In 2008, Nobody Seemed to Have Provided a Serious Investigation of It. I Couldn't Understand Why. That Bothered Me."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "If You Really Don't Like Market Timing in Any and All Forms, You May Not See Any Point in an Empirical Investigation. You View Me as One of a Long Line of Hucksters Trying to Sell You Some Snake Oil. I Don't Want to Be Such a Person."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, in an E-Mail to Rob

  • "I Definitely Need to Cite You as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, As I Have Not Found Anyone Else Who Can Lay Claim to That. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation, As Far As I Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "I Tested a Wide Variety of Assumptions About Asset Allocation, Valuation-Based Decision Rules, Whether the Period Is 10, 20, 30 or 40 Years, and Lump-Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging To Show That the Results Are Quite Robust to Changes In Any of These Assumptions."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!"




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau
    (Wade Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton.)
    (The Buy-and-Hold Mafia Threatened to Get Wade Fired From His Job When He Reported His Findings.)

  • "I Wrote Up the Programs to Test Your Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Against Buy-and-Hold and I Am Quite Excited. You Say in the RobCast That VII Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time. I Am Getting Results That Support This."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Never Underestimate the Power of a Dominant Academic Idea to Choke Off Competing Ideas, and Never Underestimate the Unwillingness of Academics to Change Their Views in the Face of Evidence. They Have Decades of Their Research and Academic Standing to Defend."




    Jeremy Grantham

  • "There's So Much That's False and Nutty
    in Modern Investing Practice."






    Warren Buffett

  • "Following Conventional Wisdom Has Led a Generation of Investors Down the Road to Ruin."






    Steve Hanke

  • "It Is Sad That the Idea That Price Doesn't Matter...Should Ever Have Been Seriously Considered".






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "The Conventional Wisdom of Modern Investing Is Largely Myth and Urban Legend."





    Rob Arnott, Former Editor of
    Fianncial Analysts Journal

  • "Economics Is a Dog's Breakfast of Theoretical Ideas and Alleged Causal Relationships That Are At All Times Unproven and In Dispute."





    Terence Corcoran, Editor of National Post

  • "Since They Did Not Diagnose the Disease, There Is Little Popular Confidence That They Know the Cure. What If Economics Is, Actually, At the Same Level as Medicine Was When Doctors Still Believed in the Application of Leeches?"




    Gideon Rachman, Financial Times

  • "One of the Most Remarkable Errors
    in the History of Economics."



    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller
    (Referring to the Logical Leap from the Finding That Short-Term Price Changes Are Unpredictable to the Conclusion That the Market Sets Prices Properly)

  • "Everything Has Fallen Apart."






    Peter Bernstein, Author of Against the Gods
    (Referring to Old Views About How Markets Work)

  • "We Wonder Why Funds and Banks, Full of the Best and Brightest, Have Made Such a Mess of Things. Part of the Reason Is That We Have Taught Economic Nonsense to Two Generations of Students."




    John Mauldin, Thoughts From the Frontline

  • "Perhaps Most Scandalously, the Theory [Behind Buy-and-Hold] Remained Received Wisdom Long After Empirical and Theoretical Arguments Had Demolished It Within the Academic Community."




    John Authers, Financial Times

  • "I Love the Humans Dearly (the Title of the Book I Am Writing Is Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life) But They Can Be a Trial at Times. Hey! Helping the Humans Learn What It Takes to Invest Effectively Is Not All That Different From Being Married!



    Rob Bennett

  • "We Are Going to See Hearts Melt Following the Next Crash. I Will Be Working Side-By-Side With All of My Many Buy-and-Hold Friends to Rebuild Our Broken Economy."





    Rob Bennett

  • "Wow, I Did Not Realize You Had Achieved This Much Success and Had Many Devoted Believers/Followers. That’s Great, Then Ignore the Opposition. It Is Great to Have Opposition: That Means You Are Doing Something Right."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Do NOT Believe I Know It All. I Believe That Shiller Discovered Something Very Important and It Appalls Me That More People Are Not Exploring the Implications of His Findings. My Aim Is To Launch a National Debate."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Can See How Many Readers Would Be Put Off by the Somewhat Sensational/Scandalist Tone and Would Not Persevere to Read, Thinking You Are Losing Your Mind."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I LOVE Everything About Buy-and-Hold Other Than the Failure to Encourage Investors to Take Price Into Consideration When Setting Their Stock Allocations. That's a Mistake That Was Made Because Shiller’s Research Was Not Available at the Time The Strategy Was Being Developed."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up In My Classrooms and in My Students' Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade)."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Can Confirm Wade Pfau's Experience. Whenever I Send My Papers to the Financial Analysts Journal or Similar Traditional Journals, I Get Rejected."





    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "As a Fan of Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, I Know That Progress Can Be Frustratingly Slow and What Is Typically Needed Is Either a Crisis or the Ascent of a New Generation of Scientists Who Did Not Build Their Careers on the Old Models and Theories."




    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "We Trace the Deeper Roots [of the Financial Crisis] to the Economics' Profession's Insistence on Constructing Models That, By Design, Disregard the Key Elements Driving Outcomes in Real World Markets."




    Knowledge@Wharton

  • "Rob Gets Himself So Worked Up Over What Someone Else Is Doing With Their Own Money and Not Bothering Rob in the Least. As Long As They Aren't Knocking on Your Basement Door, What Do You Care? They Are Happy and Content. Leave Well Enough Alone and Focus on Your Own Account."


    Dab, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Been on Forum Since the BBS Days and I Think Rob is Special. He Could Be an Internet Meme If He Put Some Effort Into It. Someday, He Will Realize That the Only Thing He's Good At Is Being an Epic Loser. He Just Needs to Embrace That Idea and Run With It. Watch Out, LOLCats, Here Comes Pathetic Guy!"


    Wabmaster, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "Your Lies Are Not Even in the Realm of the Possible, Much Less Actually Credible, Much Less Actually True."






    Drip Guy, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I'm Your Friend. I Am Not a Boil on Your Ass."






    Rob Bennett, In a Response Comment
    to One of the Greaney Goons

  • "You Guys [the Greaney Goons] Are the Same Jokers Who Have Done This Before, Sparring with Rob Over Nonsensical Issues On This Site and Others, Leveling Personal Attacks, and You Don't Even Use Real Names! Rob Is Entitled to His Opinion, But the Fact That You Challenge Every Jot and Tittle of What He Says Makes It Clear You Have An Unholy Agenda. Please Take It Elsehwere."

    Kevin Mercadante,
    Owner of the Out of Your Rut Site

  • "Rob, Take This As Friendly Advice. You're a Smart and Articulate Guy and You Could Be Making Valuable Contributions to This Discussion. I've Dealt with the Mentally Ill Before and I've Found That They Sometimes Can Be Reasonable If Gently Redirected."



    Goon Poster

  • "Always Remember Others May Hate You, But Those Who Hate You Don't Win Unless You Hate Them, and Then You Destroy Yourself."





    Richard Nixon

  • "I’m a Numbers Guy. And I Believe I Understand Rob’s Thesis, that Future Returns, Over the Next Decade, Have a Tight Inverse Correlation to the PE10 for the Starting Point. Remember, Correlation Doesn’t Need to be 100%, Only That There’s a Bell Curve of Potential Outcomes that Shift Meaningfully Based on the Input."


    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "What a Difference a Threat to Get the Father of Two Small Children Fired From His Job Has on an Investing Discussion, Eh? Long Live Buy-and-Hold! It’s Science! With a Marketing Twist!"




    Rob, Referring to the Wade Pfau Matter

  • "I Respect Rob and His Analysis. He's Bright, Energetic and Passionate. [The Goon Stuff] Is Really Nonsense. I Enjoy a Thought-Provoking Conversation With People I Respect."





    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "The Fact that Shiller is a Proponent of the Approach Takes it from a Fringe View to Mainstream, in my Opinion."






    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "I Have had Academic Researchers Tell Me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to do Honest Research Once Again. I Have had Investment Advisors Tell me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to Give Honest Investing Advice Again."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Let’s Call a Spade a Spade, Shall We? Wade Pfau Stole Your Research and Put His Name on it, Throwing You Just a Tiny Crumb of Acknowledgement to Ward Off a Lawsuit. He’s Profiting Handsomely By His Theft, Leading a Charmed Life, Widely Published, Widely Respected. While Rob Bennett Continues to Toil in Total Obscurity. It’s So Incredibly Unfair, I Think If It Happened to Me, It Could Actually Drive Me Insane."

    One of the Greaney Goons

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“There Are No Other Learning and Teaching Opportunities with 1/500th of the Potential of This One Available Today in This World.”

October 31, 2019 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:

Other than a few critics, everyone avoids and / or ignores you, yet you don’t want to accept the realities of why this is the case. Instead, you try and cope with a fake story line.

I don’t want to be ignored and I don’t want any of the others (about 10 percent of the population) who believe that the last 38 years of peer-reviewed research in the investment advice field is legitimate research to be ignored. I think that we have something important to add to the discussion that benefits Valuation-Informed Indexers and Buy-and-Holders alike. I view powerful learning experiences as one of the few true free lunches available in this world and I love free lunches! And I care about all of the investors who are hurt when the laws of the United States are violated in an effort to keep people in ignorance re the far-reaching implications of Shiller’s research findings.

I am a Valuation-Informed Indexer, not a Buy-and-Holder. I want to see Valuation-Informed Indexing grow in influence at a much more rapid pace. That won’t happen until Valuation-Informed Indexers adopt a policy of calling Buy-and-Holders out when they engage in criminal or abusive acts to suppress discussion of the new research. If I am going to ask others to speak out, I need to speak out myself.

There’s nothing fake about the story line. The very fact that we have laws against this stuff shows that as a society we view it as bad stuff. I think we are right to do so!

There’s no valuation adjustment in Greaney’s retirement study! There’s no valuation adjustment in Greaney’s retirement study! There’s no valuation adjustment in Greaney’s retirement study! My sincere take.

Many people will react differently to a showing that there’s no valuation adjustment in Greaney’s retirement study in the days following the next price crash than they do today. That’s just human nature. You Goons show that you see that by the fact that you post here. If you were not worried about going to prison, you would just go on with your lives. You’ve said that you’re going to do that on several occasions, but you never stick to it. I wonder why.

Anyway, I see no valuation adjustment in Greaney’s study. And I think that people who are considering making use of the study to plan their retirement need to know that and to reflect on what it means for the likelihood that their retirement plan will be successful. I view a failed retirement as a serious life setback. Shiller is not a Buy-and-Holder. He wouldn’t have been awarded a Nobel prize if he were saying the same things that lots of others have been saying for over 50 years now.

There have been many people who did NOT avoid me or ignore me. There have been thousands of people who have expressed a desire that I be permitted to post at every discussion board and blog on the internet and to not be subjected to intimidation tactics when I do so There have been hundreds who have responded to my stuff with helpful comments and observations and questions that have helped me and many others to learn important things. And there have been a few who have worked with my to develop the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept in -ways that I believe will change the world in important and life-affirming ways. I view the peer-reviewed research that I co-authored with Wade Pfau as the most important research published in this field in 30 years. I added more value to this world with the 16 months that I spent working with Wade on that research than I did with any other project that I have worked on in my lifetime. I am exceedingly proud of it. And Wade never would have sent me an e-mail asking me to work on that research with him had I not worked up the courage to stand up to Greaney seven years earlier. Doing the right thing in the face of relentless abuse can have a big payoff somewhere down the line.

I’m a learner and a teacher, Anonymous. That’s the deal. Maybe God made me a learner and a teacher (that’s what I think), maybe it was Evolution, maybe it was just the Fates. Whatever it was, that’s the way the cards came down. There are no other learning and teaching opportunities with 1/500th of the potential of this one available today in this world. So I think that I am just going to continue riding this wave and seeing where it takes me. It has taken me to some awful places in the past 17 years. I’ll give you that one. It has also taken me to some amazing, wonderful places, places that I couldn’t have dreamed up in the days before I advanced that famous post from the morning of May 13, 2002. My assessment is that the good stuff that we have seen is going to end up having 500 times the influence of all of your nasty, abusive garbage. Just a funny hunch I have experienced from time to time, you know?

We’ll see. Learn! Teach! Grow! Read the Research! All of It!

My best wishes to you, Anonymous.

Avoided and Ignored Rob

Filed Under: Rob Bennett

“I Am Not Ashamed of My Behavior From May 13, 2002, Forward. I Am Proud of It. It Would Be Fair to Say That I Am Somewhat Ashamed of My Behavior Prior to May 13, 2002.”

October 17, 2019 by Rob

Set forth below is a comment that I recently posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:

Unbelievable. This is it? You have been lying about death threats all this time. You should be ashamed of your behavior.

I am not ashamed of my behavior from May 13, 2002, forward, Anonymous. I am proud of it.

It would be fair to say that I am somewhat ashamed of my behavior prior to May 13, 2002.

Not entirely so. Given what we have seen from May 13, 2002, forward, most reasonable people would conclude that my behavior prior to May 13, 2002, was completely understandable. Perhaps. But I am not so sure. I would like to expect better of myself.

I knew in May 1999, when I put my first post to the Motley Fool board, that the retirement study posted at John Greaney’s web site lacked an adjustment for the valuation level that applied on the day the retirement began. I lacked the courage to say so. That’s not good. All of the extenuating circumstances that applied and that influenced me were real. But still….

I would like to see us ALL expect better of ourselves. That’s what this thing is all about. The idea is to bring us all to a higher level and thereby to help us all live better lives in the future.

We’ll see.

Rob

Filed Under: Rob Bennett

“When Millions of People See 50 Percent of Their Retirement Savings Disappear Into Thin Air for No Good Reason, I Have a Funny Feeling That They Are Going to Know That SOMEONE Is Lying About How This Stock Investing Stuff Works. I Have a Further Funny Feeling That They Are Going To Be Able To Figure Out That It Isn’t Me.”

October 3, 2019 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:

“If I post a link to Shiller’s book, will that one count? ”

Just like your website, it doesn’t provide a direct link to any death threats or job threats.

It’s not hard, Rob. If the threats exist, then you just provide the links. When you don’t, people know you are lying.

When millions of people see 50 percent of their retirement savings disappear into thin air for no good reason, I have a funny feeling that they are going to know that SOMEONE is lying about how this stock investing stuff works. I have a further funny feeling that they are going to be able to figure out that it isn’t me.

But we’ll have to wait a bit to find out for sure, you know?

I wish you the best of luck with it, in any event.

Born Liar (Or Not?) Rob

Filed Under: Rob Bennett

Buy-and-Hold Goon to Rob: “Write Your Own Book and Say What You Want to Say, But Leave Everyone Else Alone.”

September 2, 2019 by Rob

Set forth below is a comment that I posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:

“But he never actually says those words.”

And there you have it. Shiller says what HE is thinking, not what Rob Bennett wants him to say. You do this with almost everything. You twist around what people say, or don’t say, in order to make it seem like everything aligns to what you want. You somehow feel as if everyone needs to say what you want and that people need to let you say whatever you want on their forum. Write your own book and say what you want to say, but leave everyone else alone.

We live in communities, Anonymous. When one member of the investment advice community (Shiller) says something important (that valuations affect long-term timing), other members of the community (like me) incur an obligation to take that something into consideration when advancing their own contributions to the community discussions. If valuations affect long-term timing, there is precisely zero chance that the safe withdrawal rate is the same number at all times; it is a number that is higher when valuations are low and lower when valuations are high. So I said that. Good for me. I did what all community members are supposed to do.

You didn’t like that. Because you want people to maintain confidence in Greaney’s study. I don’t want that. I want people to have confidence in Greaney’s study if it is accurate. But if Greaney got the numbers wildly wrong, I want people to lose confidence in Greaney’s study. I like Greaney as a friend and I am perfectly happy to help him out when I am able. But I like all of my fellow community members. I am not willing to risk seeing thousands of my fellow community members suffer failed retirements just because one insanely abusive community member is embarrassed to have people learn that he got the numbers wildly wrong in a retirement study posted at his web site. No freakin’ way, no freakin’ how.

I don’t feel that everyone should say what I want. I believe that everyone should feel 100 percent safe saying precisely what they believe. I am 100 percent opposed to the use of intimidation tactics to coerce community members into saying things that they do not believe to create a phony impression of consensus when no consensus truly exists. The majority of our fellow community members are Buy-and-Holders. I want them saying why they think Buy-and-Hold is a good approach. But a significant minority (perhaps 10 percent) has serious doubts about Buy-and-Hold. I want those people expressing those doubts and not being threatened into silence by you Goons.

Why should I “leave everyone else alone,” as you suggest? If I see that Greaney’s study is in error, I have a responsibility to point that error out to community members who might believe that the study is legitimate if I fail to speak up. I want to help people, not destroy their lives. I am going to continue pointing out errors in studies when I see them. I am going to continue objecting to acts of financial fraud and to death threats and to all the rest that you Goons bring to the table.

The United States is a community of people too. As a community of people, we have made it a crime to advance threats of physical violence and to engage in extortion and financial fraud. I think that those are good and necessary laws. So I am not going to join you Goons in pretending that Greaney included a valuation adjustment in his study. Thousands of our fellow community members have looked at the Greaney study over the past 17 years and not one has been able to locate a valuation adjustment in it. That tells me that I am on the right track in thinking that there is not one there.

I will indeed say what I have to say in my book. But I will then try to share what I write in my book with every investor on the planet, including those who congregate at all of the boards from which I have been improperly banned at the demand of you Goons. I offer no apologies whatsoever. I like those board communities and I want to see them serving the purposes for which they were formed. It is not possible for them to do that for so long as this massive act of financial fraud continues.

My sincere take.

And my best and warmest wishes to you and yours.

Saying-What-He-Believes (Not Just in His Book But Everywhere!) Rob

Filed Under: Rob Bennett

“I Think That I Have Accomplished More Good for the World in the Past 17 Years Than I Could Have Reasonably Expected to Have Accomplished in 50 Full Lifetimes. If Big Mistakes Are Made in Retirement Studies That Are Not Corrected for a Significant Length of Time, That Causes Not Only Economic Problems But Also Political Problems — People Lose Confidence in the Political System Under Which They Live When That System Cannot Find Some Means to Provide Access to Honest and Accurate Retirement Planning Numbers.”

August 23, 2019 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:

Wasted 17 years of your life is the correct assessment.

Okay, Yip.

I don’t think so.

I think that I have accomplished more good for the world in the past 17 years than I could have reasonably expected to have accomplished in 50 full lifetimes. Getting the numbers right in retirement studies is a very, very, very big deal. And if big mistakes are made in retirement studies that are not corrected for a significant length of time, that causes not only economic problems but also political problems — people lose confidence in the political system under which they live when that system cannot find some means to provide access to honest and accurate retirement planning numbers.

And I believe that it is by providing value to the world that one earns money for one’s self and one’s family — it is providing value that is the driver behind wealth accumulation. I think it is the fact that I have provided so much value that has made this 17-year journey so contentious. You Goon can’t stand to think of me being so successful. So you double down and triple down and quadruple down on your abusiveness. And a lot of the people who are in positions of authority and who should be helping to expose your criminal behavior and bring it to a complete stop are worried too that getting the numbers right in retirement studies is a big deal and that their reputation as experts will be jeopardized when it becomes common knowledge that the numbers that they have been providing for years are miles off the mark, according to the last 38 years of peer-reviewed research.

We have got ourselves into a big mess. But we are blessed to be living at a time when the 38 years of peer-reviewed research needed to make sense of this investing stuff is available to us and to have had thousands of fine and brave and intelligent people already express a desire that every site on the internet be opened to honest posting. And to live in a country that is just too good to permit the horrible stuff that we have seen continue much longer after we all see the human suffering that will result from a price crash of 50 percent or more that remains in place for some time. I think we are very close to a breakthrough that will go down in history as the biggest advance in the history of personal finance and I am humbled to have played a lead role in bringing it about.

Please let me know if there is ever anything that I can do to make your life go a little easier. I naturally wish you all the best that this life has to offer a person.

Hang in there, man.

Confident (Reasonably!) Rob

Filed Under: Rob Bennett

“I Take All of the Stuff that Bogle Got Right and Incorporate it Into My Analysis. Then I Add the Stuff that Shiller Got Right So That the Stuff That Bogle Did Actually Helps People Instead of Destroying Their Lives. And Then I Add the Part that Shiller Failed to Put Into the Mix, the Exploration of the Far-Reaching How-To Implications of Shiller’s ‘Revolutionary’ (His Word) Research Findings. Without That Critical Part, the Entire Thing Just Does Not Work.”

August 12, 2019 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:

You think way too much of yourself.

You’ve said that in a direct way hundreds of times, Anonymous. If we count indirect ways, you’ve said in thousands of times. So the thought behind the statement is obviously of great import to you.

I am extremely proud of the work that I have done over the past 17 years. If that’s what you are accusing me of, then you are right on. I think that Bogle is a giant. He built the foundation for the Valuation-Informed Indexing Model, which I see as the future of investment analysis. So I of course think very, very highly of Bogle. But I of course believe that he got the valuations question wrong. Which means that he got every calculation wrong. If valuations have to be considered in every calculation, every calculation that Bogle performed got the wrong answer because he never considered the effect of valuations.

Shiller is the one who corrected Bogle’s work by showing that valuations must be considered in every calculation. So I also think a great deal of Shiller. I also view Shiller as a giant. But Shiller’s work has not had nearly the influence that it should have had for the past 38 years because Shiller and all those who believe that his work is important have shied away from saying to the Buy-and-Holders: “hey, you got the numbers wrong.” So Shiller doesn’t tell the entire story right either.

I say those words. I take all of the stuff that Bogle got right and incorporate it into my analysis. Then I add the stuff that Shiller got right so that the stuff that Bogle did actually helps people instead of destroying their lives. And then I add the part that Shiller failed to put into the mix, the exploration of the far-reaching how-to implications of Shiller’s “revolutionary” (his word) research findings. Without that critical part, the entire thing just does not work. People who don’t know Bogle don’t know how stock investing works. And people who don’t know Shiller don’t know how stock investing works. And people who don’t know Bennett don’t know how stock investing works. The way it is.

You are right that I think very, very highly of the work that I have done. But when you say that I think “too much” of myself, there is a clear suggestion that my high appraisal of my work is not justified by the realities. My high appraisal of my work is 100 percent justified. If I had not been right in my famous post of the morning of May 13, 2002, John Walter Russell would not have devoted eight years of his life to doing research on my ideas. If I had not been right in my famous post, Wade Pfau would not have devoted 16 months of his life to co-authoring research with me that shows beyond any doubt whatsoever that, in his words, “Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing works!” If I had not been right in my famous post, you Goons would not have put yourselves at risk of spending the remaining years of your lives in prison cells due to your desperate concern that, if the published rules of every internet site were followed, millions of investors would learn about the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept and buy into it.

You are the one who has an unjustifiably exalted view of yourself. Your view is that you can never admit even the possibility of once having made a mistake and that, if the laws of the United States don’t permit you to threaten academic researchers who show that you did indeed make a mistake, then those laws have to be ignored. You are the one on the wrong side of the law and that reality shows us that you are the one with the unjustifiably exalted view of himself.

I follow the law. I follow the peer-reviewed research. I follow the published rules of every site. I am the humble one here.

The work that I have done is of great value. I offer zero apologies for the work that I have done. But when I praise the work product, I am offering tribute to the country that put in place the laws that protect people like me from people like you. I am praising this country that I love as much as I am praising Rob Bennett the person. And I am praising Bogle when I praise my work because my work gives new life to Bogle’s work. And I am praising Shiller when I praise my work because my work gives new life to Shiller’s work.

Full truth be told, I am praising Greaney when I praise my work. Greaney’s intent when he posted his retirement study was to help people, not to destroy their lives. So, if Greaney had been thinking clearly, he would have thanked me for pointing out the error in his study and thereby permitting him to correct it before it caused him further embarrassment.

I have done amazing work. But I did not do it alone. I couldn’t have done it without the help of millions of people who formed the laws of this country and who built the Buy-and-Hold Model and who worked up the courage to stand up to you Goons when you threatened those of us trying to help out our fellow community members. It is the lawbreakers among us who suffer from an exalted view of themselves. I am just doing the job that we all sign up for when we sign up at a discussion board — using my intelligence and experience and love to help out my fellow community members.

I am playing it straight. You are playing it crooked. That’s a big distinction. It is because I am playing it straight that I have been able to achieve more and more great advances as the sand has continued to pass through the hourglass. I offered Greaney the opportunity to do the same. I asked him to work with John Walter Russell and me to develop the first valid safe-withdrawal-rate study. He took a pass. Greaney would be one of the ones today with all of the amazing accomplishments had he taken me up on that offer.

I think that what was going on there is that he just didn’t love himself enough to position himself to realize all those achievements. I like to think that I DO love myself enough to do good in the world. I am humble enough to respect the laws of the country in which I operate. That’s an appropriate and healthy humility. But I am proud enough to want to get the numbers right in retirement studies that I put before others for their consideration. That’s an appropriate and healthy pride.

Hating yourself is not the answer. Greaney hates himself. Not this boy, you know? I often point out that I can get things wrong, just as Greaney did. But I show deference to the law and I invite other community members to point out any mistakes that I have made so that I can fix them quickly. That’s a healthy humility that does not evidence itself in self-loathing. Greaney’s self-loathing helps no one, it brings us all down.

I love my work, I love my accomplishments. I hate your goonishness because it destroys you and millions of others. It is my view that the laws against financial fraud are good and necessary laws. I love it that my country protects me from people like you who engage in financial fraud. I wish that it protected me immediately. I wish that those laws were self-enforcing. I have learned through 17 hard years that this is not the way it works. But I still love it that I live in a country that has such laws and I retain confidence that those laws will be recognized in good and effective and life-affirming ways in days to come.

Proud (and Rightfully So!) Rob

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Buy-and-Hold Goon to Rob: “We Don’t Need to Seek Revenge and Call People Names Like You Do. We Decided Long Ago to Keep Working and Saving So That We Don’t Have to Struggle in Retirement. I Can’t Imagine Having to Go Back to Work at Your Age After Being Out of the Market for So Long.”

August 7, 2019 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:

“I am still going to be doing the honest-posting thing. So how are you Goons better off?”

We are already just fine. We post honestly instead of trying to convince people about being perceived as honest (when you are not). We don’t need to seek revenge and call people names like you do. We decided long ago to keep working and saving so that we don’t have to struggle in retirement. I can’t imagine having to go back to work st your age after being out of the market for so long.

Okay, Anonymous.

I do wish you all good things, in any event.

Hang in there, my good friend.

In-a-Bad-Spot Rob

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“I Wrote Draft Seven, Which Is Largely Organized But Still Somewhat Scattered Thoughts Placed in Chapters (the Chapter Titles Are a Lock at This Point — Just Making Final Decisions on Chapter Titles Is a Big Organizational Advance) but Without Good Enough Narrative Flow, Earlier This Year. I Am Now Working on Draft Eight, Which Will Have the Proper Narrative Flow. I Am Getting Through Roughly a Chapter per Week.”

July 15, 2019 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:

Have you started your job search?

I have not.

I am working on what I consider the eighth draft of the book. I count the collection of the material that I put in the 30 binders that used to be in my basement as Draft One. I count the exploration of the ideas on internet discussion boards that I participated in after I put forward my famous post of May 13, 2002, as Draft Two. I count the writing of full-length articles at this site (which forced me to organize and expand my thinking more than I did to write discussion-board posts) as Draft Three. I count the recording of the 200 one-hour podcasts that I recorded in 2009 (in the days following the initiation of the economic crisis) as Draft Four. I count my first stab at writing a full book (in which the ideas were not yet sufficiently developed for the book to possess a high level of clarity and flow) as Draft Five.

I count the 11,000 word article (“Buy-and-Hold Is Dangerous”) that I wrote near the end of last year to summarize all that I have learned in one complete and concise statement of the case as Draft Six. I wrote Draft Seven, which is largely organized but still somewhat scattered thoughts placed in chapters (the chapter titles are a lock at this point — just making final decisions on chapter titles is a big organizational advance) but without good enough narrative flow, earlier this year. I am now working on Draft Eight, which will have the proper narrative flow.

I am getting through roughly a chapter per week. I expect to finish that by Labor Day. Draft Nine is for fine-tuning. I want to give myself two months for that. Draft Nine is for proof-reading. I want to give myself a month for that (I had to read through my book on saving 40 times before I was able to get through the entire thing without making a single fix — that’s when I knew that it was ready [I only identified one missing comma after it was printed). That would get me to December 1. Then I give myself a month of slack time to finish by the end of the year.

I expect that I will put out some feelers re a job when I have finished this draft and have only the fine-tuning and proofing drafts remaining. If I don’t immediately get a job, which is the likely scenario, then I will continue with the book-writing until it is complete. If I hear about a job that I don’t want to pass up, I will grab it but then the only work that will be remaining on the book will be fine-tuning and proofing. Those are tasks that don’t require a huge amount of mental energy, so I would have no concern that I wouldn’t be able to complete those tasks at the end of a full work day (I would be concerned that I would not be able to complete the work that I am doing today in an effective and timely way while also holding a full-time job). So I would be okay with accepting a job from September 1 forward.

If I haven’t found a job by the end of the year, then I would of course lower my standards a bit re what I would accept to bring myself more into line with what the job market is offering me at this stage of my life. Until the book is complete, my intent is to accept only a job that represents a very good fit. That’s the current plan, in any event. I like to have a plan. But I also try to adapt to changing circumstances. So none of this is written in stone.

My best wishes to you.

Book-Writing Rob

Filed Under: Rob Bennett

“I Only Feel Competent to Address One Question. Are Stock Prices Determined By Rational Assessments or By Emotional Inclinations? There Are Lots of Smart People Around Who Address Themselves to All of the Hundreds of Other Important Issues That Arise in Discussions of Stock Investing. That Said, I Believe That the Valuations/Emotions Question Is BY FAR the Most Important Investing Question. And I Not So Humbly Submit That I Am the World’s Leading Expert on That One Important Question.”

July 10, 2019 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:

If someone came to you today and said they wanted to invest their life savings of $5 million by following the VII strategy, what specific investments and percentage allocations would you give them as a recommendation?

I like that question. It seems down-to-earth and real.

I only feel competent to address one question, Anonymous. Are stock prices determined by rational assessments or by emotional inclinations? There are lots of smart people around who address themselves to all of the hundreds of other important issues that arise in discussions of stock investing and I prefer that people looking for guidance turn to those others over me because I don’t believe that I possess any special expertise re any of those matters.

That said, I believe that the valuations/emotions question is BY FAR the most important investing question. It is also the most ignored investing question. The valuations/emotions question is the undiscovered continent of investing analysis. There is nothing more important in any market than the exercise of price discipline and, without an understanding of the valuations/emotions question, it is not possible for the stock buyer to exercise price discipline effectively when buying stocks. I would say that getting a handle on the valuations/emotions question is 70 percent of the story of how to become a successful long-term stock investor. It is one question but it is the one question that is so important and so poorly understood today that getting a handle on that one question provides the investor with 70 percent of what he needs to know to achieve his goals.

And I not so humbly submit that I am the world’s leading expert on that one important question. I didn’t set out to become the world expert on valuations/emotions. I was just some guy at a discussion board on early retirement who didn’t want to see my friends suffer failed retirements and thus worked up the courage to point out that the study that they were using to prepare their retirement plans lacked a valuations adjustment despite 21 years (at that time) of peer-reviewed research showing that one is required to get the numbers right. The reactions that I saw to that post told me that I was on to something “revolutionary,” to use Shiller’s word.

I saw intense positive reactions (many people told me that I was the first person who ever talked about stock investing in a way that made complete sense to them) and I saw intense negative reactions (a greater number either advanced death threats or tolerated those who advanced death threats in their presence). I knew when I saw those reactions that the story of how as a society we have for decades avoided exploring the far-reaching implications of Shiller’s work was the biggest story that I was ever going to stumble upon and that, if I truly believed that journalism is a noble calling (I do or I wouldn’t have made it my life’s work), then I had better get about the business of nailing this one down.

I have now spent 17 years of my life doing just that. I think that I have done a good job. I of course did not do it on my own. I had help from thousands of fine people, including some of the biggest-name experts in the field and lots of ordinary folks who just want to gain a better understanding of how to invest in stocks with less risk and with a good chance of earning far higher returns in the long run. I have told the story. I have been denied the readership that my work merits because of the corruption that has come to dominate this field in the Buy-and-Hold Era. But I believe that as a society we will be dealing with that corruption in the days following the next price crash. And then the work that I have done will be helping millions of people in a very big way. Shiller’s research changes everything. Absolutely everything. And I am the only guy walking Planet Earth today who can tell the story with the depth and detail with which it is told on the pages of this web site, So good for me (and good for all the people who have helped out — that includes you Goons!), you know?

So I know something very, very very important. And I know it in great detail and in great depth. But I know only one thing (the valuations/emotions thing). If I venture outside of my area of expertise, all that I am going to do is to mess people up. So the wise course of action for me is to keeping hitting away at the one big thing that I know better than anyone else while taking a pass on the hundreds of things that lots of others know better than me.

That’s preface.

I would tell that person that valuations matter and why I believe that and then try to answer any questions that he had or to address any concerns that he had. Does that answer your question?

I don’t believe that there is one answer to your question. I write for the average person. So I recommend index funds. I am persuaded by arguments that were advanced by Jack Bogle (one of my heroes) that index funds are the best choice for the average investor. I would refer people to Bogle’s writings for more detail on why index funds are best for the average person. But I would make that recommendation.

I would of course tell the person that, while investing in index funds as Bogle recommended, they need to take valuations into consideration when setting their stock allocation, which Bogle did not recommend. So I would not just say “do whatever Bogle said.” I would say to do what Bogle said re the many questions that Bogle got right but to not do what Bogle said re the very important question that Bogle got terribly wrong. If the person wanted to know why I am so sure that Bogle got that one important question so terribly wrong, I would tell him. But I would suggest that he read Bogle’s work to gain a good understanding of why index funds are a good choice because I think that Bogle handles that one perfectly well and probably better than I could (since I learned most of what I know about that topic from reading Bogle’s work).

What if the person were a more sophisticated investor, one who believed that he is capable of picking stocks effectively? I would tell him to go for it and wish him luck. I would warn him that investors can fool themselves about their abilities to pick stocks. Bogle pointed out that reality and I think he was right to do so. But I do believe that there are some investors who have the ability to add to their returns by picking stocks effectively and so I would tell the guy that and suggest that he check out all the people who offer good advice on how to do that. I don’t believe that I have much to offer in that area and so I would not say more than that.

Does that answer the question?

I would certainly recommend a lower stock allocation than what is generally recommended today because stock valuations are so scary high today. I would not recommend a stock allocation of zero unless the person was in highly unusual circumstances (as am I). I would recommend 30 percent stocks in the usual case. The reason is that short-term timing does not work and thus it is possible that we will see prices shoot up over the next year or two and I think it is better psychologically if the investor gets to share in those gains to some extent in the event that that happens. So 30 percent stocks would be my general recommendation.

I like TIPS and IBonds and CDs for the non-stock portion of the portfolio. But I am okay with other options for investors who have a strong desire to go with other options. I was talking with a friend about these matters about two weeks ago and I persuaded him that most experts are not giving due consideration to valuations. He hated the idea of going with TIPS or IBonds or CDs because he believes that the returns available from those asset classes today are too small. So he came up with the idea of moving a good portion of his money to high-dividend-paying stocks. He wanted me to endorse that choice. I did not do it.

I said that it made a good bit of sense to me. I said that I could imagine endorsing it if lots of people who believe that valuations matter studied it and came to the conclusion that it is a good choice. But I said that as of today I have not seen enough research on and discussion of that particular question to put my name to an endorsement. I did not oppose the idea. But I just don’t feel sure enough that that is the way to go to put my name to an endorsement. I feel sure that valuations matter. So I endorse valuation-informed strategies. But I believe that more study is needed re lots of follow-up questions. That’s why I always argue for the launching of a national debate re these matters.

I hope that that helps at least a tiny bit, my dear friend.

My best and warmest wishes to you and yours.

World Expert (re One Question Only!) Rob

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“My Primary Project Today Is Writing the Book ‘Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life.’ I Expect to Finish That By the End of the Year. At That Time, My Intent Is to Seek Employment in the Corporate World. I Will Continue to Write My Weekly Column and to Respond to Blog Comments and to Contact Other Sites at Nights and on Weekends. I Can Continue Doing That Indefinitely Even If There Is Not Money Coming in From the Investing Work.”

July 4, 2019 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of several comments that I recently posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:

If another 20 years passes and you don’t get your story in The New York Times and you don’t see a dime of the $500 million payout, will you come to the conclusion that you wasted your time?

I think that another 20 years would just about do it, Anonymous. I am a stubborn cuss. But a person struggling to make his way through this mixed-up world of ours has to strive to be at least a tiny bit realistic.

No?

Flexible Rob

Can you afford to wait that long?

My primary project today is writing the book Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life. I expect to finish that by the end of the year. At that time, my intent is to seek employment in the corporate world. I will continue to write my weekly column and to respond to blog comments and to contact other sites at nights and on weekends. I can continue doing that indefinitely even if there is not money coming in from the investing work.

Rob

Job market is great right now. Why not go back to the corporate world now while things are good versus risking a potential down market in the future?

My most valuable asset is the 17 years of material that I house here at the site that tells the story of what the last 38 years of peer-reviewed research teaches us all about how stock investing works in the real world. My top priority is to protect and develop that asset. Finishing the book is a huge advance in that area. So that needs to come first.

Rob

What kind of job will you look for?

I’ve been out of the job market for a long time. I cannot be super choosy. I will be looking for editing jobs or low level jobs in the legal field.

Rob

You can go get a job now, to help avoid your own failure and finish your book during nights and weekends.

That’s not my intent. I have a lot riding on getting this story out and I believe that there’s going to be a big opportunity to get people to listen in the days following the next price crash, when millions of people will be hurting and looking for explanations. So I don’t want to take any chances on not having the book ready to go when the next crash comes. And of course I don’t know when that is going to be. So my aim is just to get it all down in a way that satisfies my high standards and then move on to the job thing.

It’s possible that I could finish the book prior to the end of the year. In that event I could seek employment a few months sooner. However, I don’t want to count on that. Things have been going well. But my experience with big projects is that unexpected obstacles always come into play before you get to the finish line.

I naturally wish you the best of luck in all your future life endeavors.

Rob

 

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    • Wall Street Journal Article Pointing Out That" "This Ratio (P/E10) Has Been a Powerful Predictor of Long-Term Returns" and That "Valuation Is By Far the Most Important Issue for Investors"

    • The Internet Blowhard's Favorite Phrase: Why Do People Love to Say That Correlation Does Not Imply Causation?

    • Michael Kitces (One of the Bravest of the Good Guys in This Field) Asks: "Who's Really at Risk When Avoiding Overvalued Stocks?"

    • Financial Mentor Article Reporting on How Our Knowledge of How to Calculate Safe Withdrawal Rates Has Grown During the First Nine Years of The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Debate

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