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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
    Everybody Would Be Doing It."



    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "The Expected Return of Stocks [As Reported By The Stock-Return Predictor] Needs To Be At Least the Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) Rate for Stock Investing To Make Sense."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I Have Used Valuations to Adjust My Asset Allocation For Many Years With Very Favorable Results."





    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "I Don't Care If You Do or Don't Believe That the Market Will Behave Similarly in the Future As It Has in the Past. Either Way, This [The Stock-Return Predictor] Is an Excellent Way to Understand What the Market Has Done In the Past."


    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "My Role Is To Give People Who Don't Like What the Historical Stock-Return Data Says About the Effect of Valuations on Long-Term Returns Somebody To Yell At On Internet Discussion Boards."



    Rob Bennett at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "It Really Is a Shame and Indefensible That So Many Feel the Need to Jump Into It With No Interest of Posting on the Topic But Just to Disrupt. Are You That Insecure? Some on the Forum Have an Interest in This Topic. If You Don't, Stay Out!"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "Irrational Behavior Does Follow Patterns. But How Many Experts in Behavioral Finance Believe That Such Knowledge Can Be Used to Predict Markets? Basically, None. Your Model Cannot Attain the Level of Predictive Value You Claim."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "The Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Are Based on History. This [The Retirement Risk Evaluator] Shows, Based on the Same History, What the Probabilities Are for the Future at Various Starting Points. If the First Has Value, Then Surely This Does Too."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum

  • "There Are Hundreds of People Who Contributed to This. This Calculator [The Stock-Return Predictor] Demonstrates in a Compelling Way the Power of This New Internet Discussion-Board Communications Medium."




    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "A P/E10 of'26' Is Bad. Now Look at the 30-Year Return Predicted by the Calculator -- 5.4 Percent Real. That's Not Bad. There Are All Sorts of Strategic Implications That Follow From Understanding That Stocks Provide Different Sorts of Returns Over Different Sorts of Time-Periods."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Would Never Invest in Anything Without Having Any Idea What the Expected Return Is. For Instance, I Would Not Walk Into a Bank And Say "I'll Take One Certificate of Deposit, Please" WIthout Asking What Rate They Are Offering."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


    Rob Bennett

  • "The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Over. Rob Bennett Has Won.The Technical Evidence Supporting This Assertion Is Rock Solid."




    John Walter Russell,
    Owner of the Early Retirement Planning Insights Site
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on August 3, 2003.]

  • "I Am Afraid that the Emperor SWR [for "Safe Withdrawal Rate"] Has No Clothes."





    A Poster at the Early Retirement Forum
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on October 8, 2003.]

  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "Dear Rob -- I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September. Since Then, I've Read Archives From Many Discussion Boards and Websites, and I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "I Think Rob Bennett Did Provide An Important Contribution in Terms of Describing a Way for P/E10 to Guide Asset Allocation for Long-Term Conservative Investors. I Also Think He Was Right on the Issue of Safe Withdrawal Rates."


    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum After His Own Search of the Literature Turned Up Not a Single Such Study

  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Your Work Is at Odds with the Ethos of the Board -- Here the Theme is John Bogle's Philosophy, Which Eschews Market Timing. This Board Came Into Existence to ESCAPE One Individual, the Very Individual With Whom You Have Openly Aligned Yourself."




    A Lindaurhead (to Researcher Wade Pfau)

  • "The Problem With Long-Term Market Timing Is That It Takes Too Long to Find Out If You Are Right or Wrong."






    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Why Is It Such an Odious Violation of the Tenets of Bogleheadism to Explore Whether Someone Who Has Enough Patience Might Be Able to Benefit from the Transitory Nature of Speculative Returns (the Idea That the P/E Ratio Eventually Ends Up Where It Started)?"




    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Let Me Explain Why I Posted About This Here. Valuation-Informed Indexing Has Had Critics for Years. But Until Norbert Did It In 2008, Nobody Seemed to Have Provided a Serious Investigation of It. I Couldn't Understand Why. That Bothered Me."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "If You Really Don't Like Market Timing in Any and All Forms, You May Not See Any Point in an Empirical Investigation. You View Me as One of a Long Line of Hucksters Trying to Sell You Some Snake Oil. I Don't Want to Be Such a Person."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, in an E-Mail to Rob

  • "I Definitely Need to Cite You as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, As I Have Not Found Anyone Else Who Can Lay Claim to That. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation, As Far As I Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "I Tested a Wide Variety of Assumptions About Asset Allocation, Valuation-Based Decision Rules, Whether the Period Is 10, 20, 30 or 40 Years, and Lump-Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging To Show That the Results Are Quite Robust to Changes In Any of These Assumptions."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!"




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau
    (Wade Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton.)
    (The Buy-and-Hold Mafia Threatened to Get Wade Fired From His Job When He Reported His Findings.)

  • "I Wrote Up the Programs to Test Your Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Against Buy-and-Hold and I Am Quite Excited. You Say in the RobCast That VII Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time. I Am Getting Results That Support This."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Never Underestimate the Power of a Dominant Academic Idea to Choke Off Competing Ideas, and Never Underestimate the Unwillingness of Academics to Change Their Views in the Face of Evidence. They Have Decades of Their Research and Academic Standing to Defend."




    Jeremy Grantham

  • "There's So Much That's False and Nutty
    in Modern Investing Practice."






    Warren Buffett

  • "Following Conventional Wisdom Has Led a Generation of Investors Down the Road to Ruin."






    Steve Hanke

  • "It Is Sad That the Idea That Price Doesn't Matter...Should Ever Have Been Seriously Considered".






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "The Conventional Wisdom of Modern Investing Is Largely Myth and Urban Legend."





    Rob Arnott, Former Editor of
    Fianncial Analysts Journal

  • "Economics Is a Dog's Breakfast of Theoretical Ideas and Alleged Causal Relationships That Are At All Times Unproven and In Dispute."





    Terence Corcoran, Editor of National Post

  • "Since They Did Not Diagnose the Disease, There Is Little Popular Confidence That They Know the Cure. What If Economics Is, Actually, At the Same Level as Medicine Was When Doctors Still Believed in the Application of Leeches?"




    Gideon Rachman, Financial Times

  • "One of the Most Remarkable Errors
    in the History of Economics."



    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller
    (Referring to the Logical Leap from the Finding That Short-Term Price Changes Are Unpredictable to the Conclusion That the Market Sets Prices Properly)

  • "Everything Has Fallen Apart."






    Peter Bernstein, Author of Against the Gods
    (Referring to Old Views About How Markets Work)

  • "We Wonder Why Funds and Banks, Full of the Best and Brightest, Have Made Such a Mess of Things. Part of the Reason Is That We Have Taught Economic Nonsense to Two Generations of Students."




    John Mauldin, Thoughts From the Frontline

  • "Perhaps Most Scandalously, the Theory [Behind Buy-and-Hold] Remained Received Wisdom Long After Empirical and Theoretical Arguments Had Demolished It Within the Academic Community."




    John Authers, Financial Times

  • "I Love the Humans Dearly (the Title of the Book I Am Writing Is Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life) But They Can Be a Trial at Times. Hey! Helping the Humans Learn What It Takes to Invest Effectively Is Not All That Different From Being Married!



    Rob Bennett

  • "We Are Going to See Hearts Melt Following the Next Crash. I Will Be Working Side-By-Side With All of My Many Buy-and-Hold Friends to Rebuild Our Broken Economy."





    Rob Bennett

  • "Wow, I Did Not Realize You Had Achieved This Much Success and Had Many Devoted Believers/Followers. That’s Great, Then Ignore the Opposition. It Is Great to Have Opposition: That Means You Are Doing Something Right."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Do NOT Believe I Know It All. I Believe That Shiller Discovered Something Very Important and It Appalls Me That More People Are Not Exploring the Implications of His Findings. My Aim Is To Launch a National Debate."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Can See How Many Readers Would Be Put Off by the Somewhat Sensational/Scandalist Tone and Would Not Persevere to Read, Thinking You Are Losing Your Mind."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I LOVE Everything About Buy-and-Hold Other Than the Failure to Encourage Investors to Take Price Into Consideration When Setting Their Stock Allocations. That's a Mistake That Was Made Because Shiller’s Research Was Not Available at the Time The Strategy Was Being Developed."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up In My Classrooms and in My Students' Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade)."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Can Confirm Wade Pfau's Experience. Whenever I Send My Papers to the Financial Analysts Journal or Similar Traditional Journals, I Get Rejected."





    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "As a Fan of Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, I Know That Progress Can Be Frustratingly Slow and What Is Typically Needed Is Either a Crisis or the Ascent of a New Generation of Scientists Who Did Not Build Their Careers on the Old Models and Theories."




    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "We Trace the Deeper Roots [of the Financial Crisis] to the Economics' Profession's Insistence on Constructing Models That, By Design, Disregard the Key Elements Driving Outcomes in Real World Markets."




    Knowledge@Wharton

  • "Rob Gets Himself So Worked Up Over What Someone Else Is Doing With Their Own Money and Not Bothering Rob in the Least. As Long As They Aren't Knocking on Your Basement Door, What Do You Care? They Are Happy and Content. Leave Well Enough Alone and Focus on Your Own Account."


    Dab, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Been on Forum Since the BBS Days and I Think Rob is Special. He Could Be an Internet Meme If He Put Some Effort Into It. Someday, He Will Realize That the Only Thing He's Good At Is Being an Epic Loser. He Just Needs to Embrace That Idea and Run With It. Watch Out, LOLCats, Here Comes Pathetic Guy!"


    Wabmaster, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "Your Lies Are Not Even in the Realm of the Possible, Much Less Actually Credible, Much Less Actually True."






    Drip Guy, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I'm Your Friend. I Am Not a Boil on Your Ass."






    Rob Bennett, In a Response Comment
    to One of the Greaney Goons

  • "You Guys [the Greaney Goons] Are the Same Jokers Who Have Done This Before, Sparring with Rob Over Nonsensical Issues On This Site and Others, Leveling Personal Attacks, and You Don't Even Use Real Names! Rob Is Entitled to His Opinion, But the Fact That You Challenge Every Jot and Tittle of What He Says Makes It Clear You Have An Unholy Agenda. Please Take It Elsehwere."

    Kevin Mercadante,
    Owner of the Out of Your Rut Site

  • "Rob, Take This As Friendly Advice. You're a Smart and Articulate Guy and You Could Be Making Valuable Contributions to This Discussion. I've Dealt with the Mentally Ill Before and I've Found That They Sometimes Can Be Reasonable If Gently Redirected."



    Goon Poster

  • "Always Remember Others May Hate You, But Those Who Hate You Don't Win Unless You Hate Them, and Then You Destroy Yourself."





    Richard Nixon

  • "I’m a Numbers Guy. And I Believe I Understand Rob’s Thesis, that Future Returns, Over the Next Decade, Have a Tight Inverse Correlation to the PE10 for the Starting Point. Remember, Correlation Doesn’t Need to be 100%, Only That There’s a Bell Curve of Potential Outcomes that Shift Meaningfully Based on the Input."


    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "What a Difference a Threat to Get the Father of Two Small Children Fired From His Job Has on an Investing Discussion, Eh? Long Live Buy-and-Hold! It’s Science! With a Marketing Twist!"




    Rob, Referring to the Wade Pfau Matter

  • "I Respect Rob and His Analysis. He's Bright, Energetic and Passionate. [The Goon Stuff] Is Really Nonsense. I Enjoy a Thought-Provoking Conversation With People I Respect."





    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "The Fact that Shiller is a Proponent of the Approach Takes it from a Fringe View to Mainstream, in my Opinion."






    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "I Have had Academic Researchers Tell Me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to do Honest Research Once Again. I Have had Investment Advisors Tell me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to Give Honest Investing Advice Again."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Let’s Call a Spade a Spade, Shall We? Wade Pfau Stole Your Research and Put His Name on it, Throwing You Just a Tiny Crumb of Acknowledgement to Ward Off a Lawsuit. He’s Profiting Handsomely By His Theft, Leading a Charmed Life, Widely Published, Widely Respected. While Rob Bennett Continues to Toil in Total Obscurity. It’s So Incredibly Unfair, I Think If It Happened to Me, It Could Actually Drive Me Insane."

    One of the Greaney Goons

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Rob’s E-Mail to Quillette.com Transferring His Article Arguing That “Buy-and-Hold Is Dangerous”

November 16, 2018 by Rob

On October  24, I sent my article “Buy-and-Hold Is Dangerous” to the Quillette.com site for possible publication there. The article is an 11,300-word summary of my experiences of the past 16 years trying to get the word out about the errors in the Buy-and-Hold retirement studies and about the dangers of the Buy-and-Hold Model in general, focusing on the public policy aspects of the question (rather than on the investment advice side of the story).

Set forth below is the text of my e-mail to the editors at Quillette.com:

Quillette Editors:

The primary purpose of this article (“Buy-and-Hold Is Dangerous”) is not to make the case against Buy-and-Hold as an investment strategy. It is to point out the harm that the relentless promotion of this long discredited model for understanding how stock investing works is doing from a public policy standpoint. For example, Robert Shiller explains in his book “Irrational Exuberance” that it was the bull market of the late 1990s, which was brought on by the widespread price indifference encouraged by Buy-and-Hold, that served as the primary cause of the economic crisis of 2008. And prices are high enough today to justify concerns that we will be seeing a repeat of that crisis in not too long a time.

Thanks for giving the article a look. The article explains who I am and how I came to be the world’s leading expert on the 37-year cover-up of the dangers of the Buy-and-Hold Model.
 /
Rob Bennett
 /
I received a response later the same day saying:
 /
Hi Rob,
 /
Thank you for thinking of us but we’ll pass on this. We’re already over-capacity as it is for the time being so unable to take this on board.
 /
Best of luck pitching this elsewhere.
 /
Kind regards,
 /
Jamie

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“Rob to the Author of the Penny Pinchin’ Mom Blog: “I Did Not Feel Comfortable Following the Conventional Investing Advice, Which Says That Stocks Are ALWAYS Worth Buying at ANY Price. Huh? It Sounds Like a Con. I Investigated. And Indeed That Is the Case”

August 22, 2017 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of an e-mail that I sent to Tracie, author of the Penny Pinchin’ Mom blog, on May 16, 2017:

Tracie:

 >
My name is Rob Bennett. I write the “A Rich Life” blog and have posted 340 entries to the weekly “Valuation-Informed Indexing” column at the ValueWalk.com site. Your name came up this morning when you retweeted one of my tweets and I thought I should contact you re the idea below.
 >
I of course understand that you don’t run an investing site. However, Valuation-Informed Indexing (the only subject I have written about for 15 years) is a strategy born from the frugality mindset that you advocate everyday. My wife and I became very frugal in our spending habits at one time in our lives. I did not feel comfortable following the conventional investing advice, which says that stocks are ALWAYS worth buying at ANY price. Huh? That’s not the way it works with anything else. It sounds like a con. I investigated. And indeed that is the case.
 >
With Valuatiion-Informed Indexing, investors go with higher stock allocations when prices (valuations) are low and with lower stock allocations when prices are high. I am the co-author of peer-reviewed research that shows that investors who follow this common-sense approach can thereby reduce the risk of stock investing by 70 percent while earning far higher returns. This is investing heaven.
 >
So why haven’t you heard about it? For the same reason that advertising agencies trying to persuade you to waste money on things you don’t need don’t give you the best spending advice. Most investing advisors make their money by persuading people to buy stocks. They are the last people that middle-class investors should be trusting to tell them the straight story. A group of people who advocate conventional investing strategies threatened to send defamatory e-mails to the employer of the co-author of my study if he continued promoting it. I have been subjected to so many death threats that I have lost count of them.
 >
I would be happy to answer any questions if you have an interest in seeing a guest post on this topic. I am always trying to spread the word. I am thinking that I might have better luck moving away from investing blogs, where people feel that they need to push the conventional ideas to stay in business.
 >
I wish you the best of luck in all your future life endeavors in any event.
 >
Rob

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Barton Swaim to Rob: “This Is Terrific. Thank You for Writing. Very Grateful That You Read My Piece [on the Expertocracy] and Took the Time to Explain What It Looks Like in Your Field.”

August 21, 2017 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of an e-mail that I sent to Barton Swaim, author of an article published in the Weekly Standard titled The Expertocracy: What If They Don’t Know As Much As They Think They Do?, on May 15, 2017, followed by his response:

Barton:

 >
My name is Rob Bennett. I write a weekly column called “Valuation-Informed Indexing” at the ValueWalk.com site and house tons of materials on the same subject at my own PassionSaving.com site. I enjoyed your article on the Expertocracy and would like to describe for you a frightening example of the phenomenon, the one that applies in the investing advice field.
 >
The dominant model for understanding how stock investing works is the Buy-and-Hold Model, which is rooted in the research of Nobel-Prize-Winning Economist Eugene Fama. Fama showed in 1965 that stock prices play out in a random walk in the short term (less than 10 years). The Buy-and-Holders concluded that market timing is a bad idea and thus advise investors always to stick with the same stock allocation.
 >
Robert Shiller, another Nobel-Prize-Winning economist, discredited that conclusion (but not Fama’s finding itself) with research published in 1981. He showed that, while short-term timing really does not work, long-term timing (adjusting one’s stock allocation in response to big shifts in stock valuations) ALWAYS works. Follow-up research that I prepared with Wade Pfau, who holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton, shows that investors can reduce the risk of stock investing by 70 percent while suffering no reduction in long-term return solely by being willing to go with higher stock allocations when prices are low and lower stock allocations when prices are high.
 >
What Shiller really showed is that the primary determinant of stock prices is investor emotion, not economic developments. The implications are far-reaching. If Shiller is right, stock prices are self-regulating. The long-term value proposition for stocks is poor when prices are high; if investors are told this, they will sell when prices rise and those sales will bring prices back down to reasonable levels again. However. if Buy-and-Hold is pushed hard, investors will be afraid to sell and prices will continue rising until they reach insanely dangerous levels. Then prices will crash and trillions of dollars of pretend money will disappear, causing an economic crisis. Shiller predicted the economic crisis that began in September 2008 in a book published in March 2000 because he saw how high prices had risen and understood that trillions of dollars of spending power would leave the economy as prices worked their way back to fair-value levels (we still have a long way to go!).
 >
The expertocracy angle is that many economists, journalists and investment advisors hold back from saying in clear terms what they know or believe about stock investing because ideas rooted in Shiller’s research are perceived as a threat by those promoting Buy-and-Hold strategies. I can tell many stories along these lines; getting this story exposed has been my life project for 15 years now. As one example, when Wade Pfau was publicizing our research findings, a group of Buy-and-Holders threatened to send defamatory e-mails to his employer in an attempt to get him fired from his job. Many people in this field are afraid of what the expertocracy will do to protect their turf.
 >
Please send me a return e-mail if you have any questions or would like to talk over some of these issues.
 >
I wish you the best of luck in all your future life endeavors.
 >
Rob
 >

Rob,

>
This is terrific. Thank you for writing. Very grateful that you read my piece, and took the time to explain what it looks like in your field.
>
Barton

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Rob to James Altucher: “I Like It That You Think. For 15 Years I Have Been Pushing an Idea That My Brain Says Is Supported By All the Evidence But That Has Not Caught On Because (In My View) Many People Permit Their Need for Social Approval to Cloud Their Thinking.”

August 11, 2017 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of an e-mail (the heading is “Shiller’s ‘Revolutionary’ Research Findings”) that I sent to James Altucher on May 6, 2017:

>

James:

 >
This is Rob Bennett. I am the fellow who tried to hand you a brochure at the end of the FinCon Masters Event in New York City last Tuesday night. I said that I liked it that you think. I noticed that because for 15 years I have been pushing an idea that my brain says is supported by all the evidence but that has not caught on because (in my view) many people permit their need for social approval to cloud their thinking.
 >
Shiller showed in 1981 that valuations affect long-term returns. This means that stock prices are primarily determined not by economic factors but by shifts in investor emotions. The implications of this insight are far-reaching and have only rarely been explored in any depth.
 >
One big implication is that long-term returns are highly predictable for those who invest in index funds. I worked with Wade Pfau, who holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton, to produce peer-reviewed research showing that investors can reduce the risk of stock investing by 70 percent by being willing to adjust their stock allocations in response to big shifts in valuations.
 >
Another big implication is that it was the bull market of the late 1990s that served as the primary cause of the economic crisis of 2008. Stocks were overpriced by $12 trillion at the top of the bubble. Shiller’s work shows that this pretend money disappears as valuations work their way downward. As investors lose significant portions of their life savings, they cut spending and businesses fail and workers lose their jobs. Shiller predicted the economic crisis in his book (published in 2000) but his explanation of it was ignored when the crisis came.
 >
It is this latter point that is the most important, in my assessment. Shiller was awarded a Nobel prize, so as a society we appreciate the importance of his work. But we patronize him. Most experts in the field continue to push Buy-and-Hold strategies without even mentioning the 36 years of peer-reviewed research showing that they cannot work. Why? Many investors would like to better understand the implications of Shiller’s work (I know this because of the reactions that I have seen to my own writings). And there is of course a huge amount of money to be made showing people a better way to invest.
 >
Why haven’t Shiller’s “revolutionary” (this is the word used to describe his research in the subtitle of his book) findings caught on in 36 years?
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I believe that the Shiller revolution represents such a big advance over the earlier understanding of how stock investing works that we have not yet been able to incorporate frank discussions of it into the public debate. I have been banned at over 20 web sites because I have tried to get discussions started and because about 20 percent of most community members express a desire to participate in such discussions and thereby pose a threat to those promoting the now dominant ideas. Those who believe in and promote the conventional ideas are threatened by an advance that would help them and lots of others if they could open their minds enough to explore it in some depth.
 >
If you have an interest in any of this, please ask any questions that occur to you. I would love to talk it over with you.
 >
I enjoyed your talk, and, as I said, I like your style. You create thought-provoking work.
 >
Rob

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Rob’s E-Mail to Emily Bazelon, Author of an Article in the New York Times Magazine re Internet Bullying

July 29, 2016 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of an e-mail that I sent on January 16, 2014, to Emily Bazelon, the author of an article in the New York Times Magazine on internet bullying. The heading for the e-mail was: “A Case of Internet Bullying That Affects Us All in Big Ways.”

Emily:

My name is Rob Bennett. My bio is here.

I saw your article on internet bullying in the New York Times Magazine and noted that you have done a lot of other work on internet bullying as well. I have a story to tell about a case of internet bullying that has had far-reaching economic and political implications.

The easiest way to tell you enough about the story for you to see if you have an interest in learning more is to point you to an article at my web site titled Academic Researcher Silenced by Threats to Get Him Fired From His Job After Reporting on Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies.

My best and warmest wishes to you!

Rob

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Jaime Tardy to Rob: “What Is the Number One Objection From the Average Person – Not One of the Haters?”

July 14, 2016 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of an e-mail that I sent to Jaime Hardy, owner of the EventualMillionaire.com site, on October 24, 2013, followed by her response:

Jaime:

This is Rob Bennett, at “A Rich Life.” We spoke at FinCon13 re the possibility of me hiring you as a coach. I hope the rest of the conference was successful for you. I much enjoyed giving the talk I gave at the Ignite sessions. That was a trip. And I think I did a good job of getting the essence of my story down to five minutes!

My recollection is that there were three questions you wanted to ask of me before deciding whether it made sense to proceed. Please send the three questions when you get a chance. I don’t know whether this idea makes sense or not. But I would like to explore the possibility a bit more in an effort to find out.

My warmest wishes to you.

Rob

 

Hi Rob!

So great to connect online.

Here are some questions to answer and then I’ll give you some actions to try. Then we can chat in later November when I have a spot for coaching open up. Make sense?

What is the number one objection from the average person – not one of the haters?

Have you been able to convince others to see your side? When?

What do you think your positioning/branding is currently on your current site?

Thanks Rob! Can’t wait to hear your answers.

My email inbox is a bit too full right now – so I’ll do my best for a speedy reply. Answering this email from the doctors office about to get my cast off!

Have an amazing day!
Warmest,
Jaime

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Rob’s E-Mail to Danielle Citron, A Law Professor Who Wrote a New York Times Article on Revenge Porn

June 29, 2016 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of an e-mail that I sent to Danielle Citron at the University of Maryland Law School on September 24, 2013:

Danielle:

My name is Rob Bennett. My bio is here.

I saw your name in the New York Times article on revenge porn. Thank you for doing the important work you are doing!

The article suggested that the book you are working on may address internet harassment in general and not just revenge porn in particular. If that is the case, I can tell a story about internet harassment that is truly jaw-dropping in scope and that affects everyone living in the United States today.

To understand my case, you need to understand a bit of background re the history of our growing knowledge of how stock investing works. There are two major schools of thought: (1) The Buy-and-Hold Model, which is rooted in the research of University of Chicago Economics Professor Eugene Fama; and
(2) The Valuation-Informed Indexing Model, which is rooted in the research of Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller. The Fama model is dominant today. I advocate the Shiller model. My web site has more material explaining the  implications of the Shiller model than any other site on the internet.

An individual who was embarrassed when I let people know that he got a number wrong in a retirement study has waged a 11-year smear campaign against me with the aim of making it impossible for me to earn a living from my work on the internet. Thousands of community members at various discussion boards and blogs have expressed a desire that honest posting on both points of view be permitted on the internet. But his Goon Squad disrupts conversations wherever they are held on this topic. Numerous site owners have reacted in fear of what will be done to them if they allow the issues to be discussed and have banned posting on the implications of the Shiller model at their sites.

I spent 16 months working on research with an academic researcher with a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton. The researcher (Wade Pfau) was thrilled with what we accomplished. He told me that our research product was worthy of publication in the Journal of Finance, the top journal in the field. These
internet Goons threatened to send defamatory e-mails to Wade’s employer with the aim of getting him fired from his job if he did not stop pursuing this research. Wade had seen what had happened to me and agreed to stop publishing similar research (one study had already been published in a peer-reviewed
journal at the time this happened).

If you have an interest in learning more about the story, I have extensive  documentation of the entire 11-year history of the matter. Please just send me an e-mail letting me know and we can set up a time to talk by telephone.

Here is an article giving background on the investing issues:

http://arichlife.passionsaving.com/about/

Here is an article giving an in-depth report on the Wade Pfau matter
(please note that there are links to reactions from numerous academics at the end of the article):

http://arichlife.passionsaving.com/the-buy-and-hold-crisis/academic-researcher-silenced-by-threats-to-get-him-fired-from-his-job-after-reporting-on-dangers-of-buy-and-hold-investing-strategies-teaser-version/

Here is an article in which I set forth 101 comments of my fellow community members expressing
a desire that honest posting on these important investment topics be permitted:

http://www.passionsaving.com/investing-discussion-boards.html

I wish you the best of luck with all your future endeavors!

Rob

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“If We Can Get a Small Group of Independent Bloggers Writing About These Ideas, They Will Spread. Lots of the Big Names in This Field Want to Feel Free to Tell Their Clients What Really Works. But They Are Afraid. They Need Cover. The More People Who Speak the Truth Openly, the Less Afraid All the Others Who Want To Do So Feel. So This Thing Will Gain Momentum Fast Once We Get the Fire Started.”

June 10, 2016 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of correspondence that I engaged in with Jeff, owner of the Sustainable Life Blog, on October 6, 2013:

Hi Rob,

I just wanted to drop you a quick line and say how nice it was meeting you at fincon in St Louis this year. I don’t know about you, but I had such a great time hearing from all the speakers and meeting online friends (some for the first time).

It was great meeting you at Ignite Fincon and chatting with you about Value Index Investing. I thought it was really interesting, and I’d really like to know how you got started with Value Index Investing and what you enjoy most about it. I had such a great time meeting and talking to so many different people, I didn’t get much time to focus on the most interesting parts – like why they do what they do!

I remember that we chatted a bit about being the most hated guy on investing forums and branding it as well. That was really great to hear about, and I think it’s so funny that people get so angry at you for those comments you left. Glad that you were basically proven right by the downturn though.

Please, don’t hesitate to email me if you’ve got any questions or need help with anything. I’ve been blogging for almost 5 years, and love to help out anyone that asks!

Once again, it was great meeting you..

Jeff

Jeff:

That’s super kind! Seeing your e-mail brought a nice measure of good cheer to my Saturday afternoon.

I got started with Valuation-Informed Indexing when I was putting together an early retirement plan in the late 1990s (I left corporate employment in August 2000 and our family of four has been living off our investments for the 13 years since). When you are handing in a resignation from a big-paycheck job (I was a Director at the Ernst & Young accounting firm), you need to be SURE that you have enough to make it on your own.  So I investigated a concept called “Safe Withdrawal Rates.”

I discovered (ironically enough, I discovered this by reading John Bogle’s book — this is ironic because Bogle is the lead advocate of Buy-ad-Hold, the strategy that VII replaces) that the conventional SWR studies get the numbers wrong (they fail to consider the effect of valuations). I was posting daily at a Retire Early board at Motley Fool and a retired government engineer there named John Walter Russell became interested enough in what I was saying to spend the next eight years of his life researching questions related to VII. John did HUNDREDS of studies backing all this up and published them at his own site. John died a few years ago and the right to publish all his research passed to me.

At some point, I started posting at the Vanguard Diehards board at Morningstar.com. An academic researcher (Wade Pfau — he has a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton) discovered my posts and wrote me to ask if I would be interested in doing some research with him. Our paper has been published in a peer-reviewed journal. I believe that it is the most important research published in this field in the past 30 years. It shows investors that simply by taking valuations into consideration when setting their stock allocations they can reduce the risk of stock investing by 70 percent. Once we reach a point where we can publicize these findings,  stocks will become essentially a risk-free investment class. This is a huge deal.

The thing that I like most about VII is not the investing benefits. I have made my living as a journalist pretty much my entire life (I was hired at Ernst & Young as a tax lobbyist because they learned about my work reporting on tax legislation on Capitol Hill — I also hold a law degree and a Masters in Tax Law). So I have a strong interest in public policy issues. VII is rooted in the research of Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller (who won the Nobel prize a week or two ago). Shiller’s findings don’t just make stock investing a risk-free endeavor. They also have huge implications re stabilization of our economic system.

Shiller predicted the 2008 economic crisis in a book published in March 2000. Do you know how he did it?

Shiller’s research shows that EVERY economic crisis in U.S. history was caused by excessive stock valuations. There has never been a single exception. Take away excessive stock valuations and you take away economic crises and all the huge increase in unemployment that always follows from them. Shiller’s work has the greatest potential for easing human suffering of any research being done today. What he has found (and what I have been writing about for 11 years) is the financial sector equivalent of the cure for cancer.

How do we stop stocks from becoming overpriced? It is amazingly easy.

I have a calculator at my site called “The Stock-Return Predictor.” It applies a regression analysis to the 140 years of historical return data to reveal the most likely annualized 10-year return for stock purchases made at any possible price level. It shows that the claim you always hear from Wall Street that “you can’t time the market!” is 100 percent false marketing mumbo jumbo. It has ALWAYS been possible and easy and necessary to time the market. There is a hyper-technical way in which what they say is so. It is NOT possible to engage in short-term market timing (guessing where stock prices will be in a year or so) effectively. However, it is VERY easy to engage in LONG-TERM market timing. You can know today (with a high but not perfect level of accuracy) where stock prices will be 10 years from today. Using the calculator, you can know when stocks are worth buying and when they are not. This permits you to retire as much as 10 years sooner than you ever before imagined possible.

The Stock-Return Predictor reveals the price tag of stocks. Middle-class people who don’t practice long-term timing are essentially making the most important purchase of their lives (we spend more in the course of a lifetime on stocks than we do on clothes or food or housing or cars) without knowing the price! It’s insane. Why do they do it? Every industry that exists would love to have its customers believe that its product is a good buy at any possible price. The Stock-Selling Industry is the only industry that has ever been able to persuade its customers that this is actually so. They get away with it because most investors are intimidated by the subject of investing. They defer to experts. And the experts in this field get paid depending on how effective they are in persuading people to buy stocks. The conflict overwhelms most people’s sense of right and wrong and they rationalize saying all sorts of things that have long been shown to be nonsense by the peer-reviewed academic research.

Once people understand that stocks are not worth buying at high prices, guess what happens? That makes it impossible for high prices ever to be seen again. As prices go up, people sell shares. The sales of the shares pull price down again. If they go too low, people start buying more and that pushes prices up again. Stock prices are self-regulating. So long as people are told about the research!

The trick today is getting the word out about what the research really says. Most of the people who work in this field have built careers around promotion of Buy-and-Hold. There are lots of powerful and wealthy people who very, very much do not want middle-class people to learn about Shiller’s research and its implications. So we face heavy resistance.

But things have changed in a big way since the crash. I couldn’t get a guest blog published anywhere on the internet in the old days. Today there are lots of blogs that welcome me. Shiller’s research shows that there will be another crash in a year or two. I believe that the gates will swing wide open then.

You probably know that many blogs have been hit hard by Google. I believe that VII is going to prove to be the salvation of the Personal Finance Blogosphere. Bloggers are not as beholden to the industry big shots as are most others in this field. We are at least capable of independence. If we can get a small group of independent bloggers writing about these ideas, they will spread and spread and eventually gain recognition everywhere. I have spoken with LOTS of people over these 11 years. Lots of the big names in this field want to feel free to tell their readers and clients what really works in the long run. But they are afraid. They need cover. The more people who speak the truth openly, the less afraid all the others who want to do so feel. So this thing will gain momentum fast once we get the fire started.

Please come back to me and ask questions about this at any time. My site is today the only site on the internet that explores the implications of Shiller’s research in an in-depth way. There is room for hundreds of blogs doing this kind of work. And we would be helping millions of middle-class people by doing it. VII is safe, smart, simple investing. I have had THOUSANDS of people encourage me to pursue this quest. People need this. They need it badly. And the demand is going to go through the roof following the next crash, which is likely coming in not too long a time.

I hope that helps a bit.

Thanks again for your exceedingly king and encouraging note.

Rob

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Owner of the Out of Your Rut Blog to Rob: “I Think Apathy More Than Anything Is Keeping Other Bloggers From Seeing the Light. You May Want to Back Down Until the Worm Turns. It Will. And Then People Will Listen.”

June 8, 2016 by Rob

Yesterday’s blog entry reported on correspondence I had in 2013 with Kevin, owner of the Out of Your Rut blog. Set forth below is follow-up correspondence:

Hi Rob,

I think apathy more than anything is keeping other bloggers from seeing the light. There’s also go along to get along factor; inertia is very powerful, as I’m sure you understand. If I’m a blogger and making money selling ad space or affiliate links to investment companies, I hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. The bull runs forever.

What’s keeping buy and hold afloat are the actions by the Fed and the US govt to maintain a perpetual bull market in stocks, no matter what the economic backdrop is. The economy is on wobbly legs, and a rising stock market is the only game in town. When that goes down, it will be the last leg holding the house of cards up.

I wouldn’t be surprised to find that these “goons” are more significant than you think. Fraud is keeping systems afloat, and some pretty powerful people have a vested interest in keeping it going.

You may want to back down until the worm turns. It will. And then people will listen. I’m of the opinion that getting into debates with these types is worse than counter-productive. Their aim isn’t to debate, it’s to discredit. And right now “the facts”, contrived and manipulated as they are, are supporting their case. Right now, nothing can kill the bull, the Fed won’t allow it. That’s ultimately what QE and zero interest rates are all about.

Kevin

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Rob to Owner of the Out of Your Rut Blog: “Do You Know From Your Conversations With Other Bloggers What They Are Afraid Of? It Seems to Me That If There Were 10 of Us Who Stuck Together, the Goons Would Be Powerless To Do Harm to Any Of Us.”

June 7, 2016 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of an e-mail sent to me by Kevin, the owner of the Out of Your Rut site, on October 2, 2013, and the text of my response to him. For several years, I wrote a weekly column titled Beyond Buy-and-Hold at Kevin’s site.

Hi Rob,

I skimmed through the 125 comments that were on this post, and they’re pure mud-slinging by Heywood and “Reality”. I deleted all the comments including yours, and put up my own reply. Hope you don’t take offense to that as I meant none toward you.

Those two are just looking for trouble, and they won’t get any help on OOYR. Constructive, adult disagreements are fine, but attack style is out of the question.

Do these guys bother you elsewhere???

Thanks,

Kevin

Kevin:

It’s good to hear your voice again.

Yes, the Goons bother me elsewhere.

They have my name in a Google notification service. So if I post at any blog on the internet, they know and they posts an endless number of abuse posts until the site owner agrees with their demands. There are blog owners who have put up Guest Blogs by me and the Goons sent an e-mail to the owner of the blog telling him that they would destroy his site if he did so again.

I spent 16 months working with Wade Pfau, an academic researcher with a Ph.D. in Economics on a piece of research that I believe can fairly be called the most important research published in this field in the past 32 years. It shows investors that, by looking at valuations when setting their stock allocations, they reduce the risk of stock investing by 70 percent. I have had long-time Buy-and-Holders tell me after they looked at that research they were rethinking their beliefs about how investing works.

The response of the Goons was to send an e-mail to Wade telling him that they would send defamatory e-mails to his employer with the aim of getting him fired. Wade sent me several e-mails telling me that he was afraid of what they could do to him. When they continued, he worked out a deal with them in which he took down every comment I had written at his site (which he thanked me for profusely when I wrote them) and put up comments praising the leader of the Goons. Wade dropped plans to do follow-up
research on Valuation-Informed Indexing (he told me when we did the first research paper that “You ain’t seen nothing yet!” and that he expected eventually to get research on Valuation-Informed Indexing published in the Journal of Finance, the most respected journal in the field).

The 11-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies is the greatest act of financial fraud in the history of the  United States. We are going to see many people going to prison for this massive act of financial fraud following the next price crash.

It is my strongly held view that every blogger on the internet should be speaking out about this.

It is not entirely true that the Goons are “just looking for trouble.” They are looking to INTIMIDATE. For 11 years, that has worked. They are now not just covering up the errors in the retirement studies. They are now covering up the cover-up. Things get worse and worse and worse as they commit more felonies as as bloggers in this field and experts like Bogle and Swedroe and Ferri and Burns and Bernstein fail to speak up.

Rob Arnott (the former editor of the Financial Analysts Journal) wrote me an e-mail in which he told me that “your ideas are sound.” He described acts of intimidation by Buy-and-Holders that he has experienced himself. Two young researchers wanted to do research in this area. They were taken aside by an older Buy-and-Holder who told them that they would be hurting their careers if they were to do so. Rahiv Sethie, an Economics Professor at Columbia, told me that all of my ideas follow from Shiller’s findings and that he could see why Valuation-Informed Indexing would work. But he hasn’t published research showing this. Given these other events, I don’t think it is too hard to figure out why he holds back.

Arnott copied Bogle on his e-mail to me. So Bogle knows all about this.

This is not an economics story. It is primarily a POLITICAL story. The question on the table is whether citizens of the United States should be permitted to know what the last 32 years of peer-reviewed academic research in this field tells us about how stock investing works. Wall Street wants us to believe that Buy-and-Hold can work. There is now 32 years of peer-reviewed research showing otherwise. Investors MUST take price into consideration to have any chance of achieving long-term success.

I believe that things will change following the next crash (the research shows that we have another
crash of 65 percent coming up ahead). The problem with waiting for the crash is that another crash
of that magnitude will put us in the Second Great Depression. I am not sure that our political system
can sustain a Second Great Depression, one that will according to the research be far deeper and far longer-lasting than the depression we experienced in the 1930s.

This is not just about giving me a hard time. It is about keeping information from millions of middle-class people who very much need to hear it.

It’s important to understand that the Goons do not benefit from a Second Great Depression any more
than any of the rest of us. They are in emotional pain. The Buy-and-Hold advocates created a monster when they encouraged so many people to believe in this stuff. And of course the advocates too would
like to get out of the corner into which they have painted themselves.

The positive news here is 50 times more positive than the negative news is negative. The answer
is just to get a discussion started and then we see good things piled on top of good things piled on top of good things.

Do you know from your conversations with other bloggers what they are afraid of? It seems to be that
if there were 10 of us who stuck together, the Goons would be powerless to do harm to any of us. All of their power to destroy us comes from the fact that they can take us on one by one. I’ve spoken to financial advisors and academic who have been intimidated too. It seems to me that the logical step is for 10 people (a combination of financial bloggers, political bloggers, academics and financial advisors) to agree to meet at a discussion board set up at one site and to keep a record of the intimidation tactics. Then anyone being hassled could point to that site. I would think that would end the nasty stuff in no time.

Do you see merit in that idea? Please let me know if you have thoughts in reaction to all this.

And please take good care.

Rob

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