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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
    Everybody Would Be Doing It."



    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "The Expected Return of Stocks [As Reported By The Stock-Return Predictor] Needs To Be At Least the Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) Rate for Stock Investing To Make Sense."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I Have Used Valuations to Adjust My Asset Allocation For Many Years With Very Favorable Results."





    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "I Don't Care If You Do or Don't Believe That the Market Will Behave Similarly in the Future As It Has in the Past. Either Way, This [The Stock-Return Predictor] Is an Excellent Way to Understand What the Market Has Done In the Past."


    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "My Role Is To Give People Who Don't Like What the Historical Stock-Return Data Says About the Effect of Valuations on Long-Term Returns Somebody To Yell At On Internet Discussion Boards."



    Rob Bennett at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "It Really Is a Shame and Indefensible That So Many Feel the Need to Jump Into It With No Interest of Posting on the Topic But Just to Disrupt. Are You That Insecure? Some on the Forum Have an Interest in This Topic. If You Don't, Stay Out!"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "Irrational Behavior Does Follow Patterns. But How Many Experts in Behavioral Finance Believe That Such Knowledge Can Be Used to Predict Markets? Basically, None. Your Model Cannot Attain the Level of Predictive Value You Claim."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "The Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Are Based on History. This [The Retirement Risk Evaluator] Shows, Based on the Same History, What the Probabilities Are for the Future at Various Starting Points. If the First Has Value, Then Surely This Does Too."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum

  • "There Are Hundreds of People Who Contributed to This. This Calculator [The Stock-Return Predictor] Demonstrates in a Compelling Way the Power of This New Internet Discussion-Board Communications Medium."




    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "A P/E10 of'26' Is Bad. Now Look at the 30-Year Return Predicted by the Calculator -- 5.4 Percent Real. That's Not Bad. There Are All Sorts of Strategic Implications That Follow From Understanding That Stocks Provide Different Sorts of Returns Over Different Sorts of Time-Periods."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Would Never Invest in Anything Without Having Any Idea What the Expected Return Is. For Instance, I Would Not Walk Into a Bank And Say "I'll Take One Certificate of Deposit, Please" WIthout Asking What Rate They Are Offering."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


    Rob Bennett

  • "The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Over. Rob Bennett Has Won.The Technical Evidence Supporting This Assertion Is Rock Solid."




    John Walter Russell,
    Owner of the Early Retirement Planning Insights Site
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on August 3, 2003.]

  • "I Am Afraid that the Emperor SWR [for "Safe Withdrawal Rate"] Has No Clothes."





    A Poster at the Early Retirement Forum
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on October 8, 2003.]

  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "Dear Rob -- I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September. Since Then, I've Read Archives From Many Discussion Boards and Websites, and I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "I Think Rob Bennett Did Provide An Important Contribution in Terms of Describing a Way for P/E10 to Guide Asset Allocation for Long-Term Conservative Investors. I Also Think He Was Right on the Issue of Safe Withdrawal Rates."


    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum After His Own Search of the Literature Turned Up Not a Single Such Study

  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Your Work Is at Odds with the Ethos of the Board -- Here the Theme is John Bogle's Philosophy, Which Eschews Market Timing. This Board Came Into Existence to ESCAPE One Individual, the Very Individual With Whom You Have Openly Aligned Yourself."




    A Lindaurhead (to Researcher Wade Pfau)

  • "The Problem With Long-Term Market Timing Is That It Takes Too Long to Find Out If You Are Right or Wrong."






    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Why Is It Such an Odious Violation of the Tenets of Bogleheadism to Explore Whether Someone Who Has Enough Patience Might Be Able to Benefit from the Transitory Nature of Speculative Returns (the Idea That the P/E Ratio Eventually Ends Up Where It Started)?"




    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Let Me Explain Why I Posted About This Here. Valuation-Informed Indexing Has Had Critics for Years. But Until Norbert Did It In 2008, Nobody Seemed to Have Provided a Serious Investigation of It. I Couldn't Understand Why. That Bothered Me."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "If You Really Don't Like Market Timing in Any and All Forms, You May Not See Any Point in an Empirical Investigation. You View Me as One of a Long Line of Hucksters Trying to Sell You Some Snake Oil. I Don't Want to Be Such a Person."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, in an E-Mail to Rob

  • "I Definitely Need to Cite You as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, As I Have Not Found Anyone Else Who Can Lay Claim to That. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation, As Far As I Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "I Tested a Wide Variety of Assumptions About Asset Allocation, Valuation-Based Decision Rules, Whether the Period Is 10, 20, 30 or 40 Years, and Lump-Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging To Show That the Results Are Quite Robust to Changes In Any of These Assumptions."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!"




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau
    (Wade Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton.)
    (The Buy-and-Hold Mafia Threatened to Get Wade Fired From His Job When He Reported His Findings.)

  • "I Wrote Up the Programs to Test Your Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Against Buy-and-Hold and I Am Quite Excited. You Say in the RobCast That VII Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time. I Am Getting Results That Support This."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Never Underestimate the Power of a Dominant Academic Idea to Choke Off Competing Ideas, and Never Underestimate the Unwillingness of Academics to Change Their Views in the Face of Evidence. They Have Decades of Their Research and Academic Standing to Defend."




    Jeremy Grantham

  • "There's So Much That's False and Nutty
    in Modern Investing Practice."






    Warren Buffett

  • "Following Conventional Wisdom Has Led a Generation of Investors Down the Road to Ruin."






    Steve Hanke

  • "It Is Sad That the Idea That Price Doesn't Matter...Should Ever Have Been Seriously Considered".






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "The Conventional Wisdom of Modern Investing Is Largely Myth and Urban Legend."





    Rob Arnott, Former Editor of
    Fianncial Analysts Journal

  • "Economics Is a Dog's Breakfast of Theoretical Ideas and Alleged Causal Relationships That Are At All Times Unproven and In Dispute."





    Terence Corcoran, Editor of National Post

  • "Since They Did Not Diagnose the Disease, There Is Little Popular Confidence That They Know the Cure. What If Economics Is, Actually, At the Same Level as Medicine Was When Doctors Still Believed in the Application of Leeches?"




    Gideon Rachman, Financial Times

  • "One of the Most Remarkable Errors
    in the History of Economics."



    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller
    (Referring to the Logical Leap from the Finding That Short-Term Price Changes Are Unpredictable to the Conclusion That the Market Sets Prices Properly)

  • "Everything Has Fallen Apart."






    Peter Bernstein, Author of Against the Gods
    (Referring to Old Views About How Markets Work)

  • "We Wonder Why Funds and Banks, Full of the Best and Brightest, Have Made Such a Mess of Things. Part of the Reason Is That We Have Taught Economic Nonsense to Two Generations of Students."




    John Mauldin, Thoughts From the Frontline

  • "Perhaps Most Scandalously, the Theory [Behind Buy-and-Hold] Remained Received Wisdom Long After Empirical and Theoretical Arguments Had Demolished It Within the Academic Community."




    John Authers, Financial Times

  • "I Love the Humans Dearly (the Title of the Book I Am Writing Is Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life) But They Can Be a Trial at Times. Hey! Helping the Humans Learn What It Takes to Invest Effectively Is Not All That Different From Being Married!



    Rob Bennett

  • "We Are Going to See Hearts Melt Following the Next Crash. I Will Be Working Side-By-Side With All of My Many Buy-and-Hold Friends to Rebuild Our Broken Economy."





    Rob Bennett

  • "Wow, I Did Not Realize You Had Achieved This Much Success and Had Many Devoted Believers/Followers. That’s Great, Then Ignore the Opposition. It Is Great to Have Opposition: That Means You Are Doing Something Right."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Do NOT Believe I Know It All. I Believe That Shiller Discovered Something Very Important and It Appalls Me That More People Are Not Exploring the Implications of His Findings. My Aim Is To Launch a National Debate."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Can See How Many Readers Would Be Put Off by the Somewhat Sensational/Scandalist Tone and Would Not Persevere to Read, Thinking You Are Losing Your Mind."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I LOVE Everything About Buy-and-Hold Other Than the Failure to Encourage Investors to Take Price Into Consideration When Setting Their Stock Allocations. That's a Mistake That Was Made Because Shiller’s Research Was Not Available at the Time The Strategy Was Being Developed."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up In My Classrooms and in My Students' Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade)."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Can Confirm Wade Pfau's Experience. Whenever I Send My Papers to the Financial Analysts Journal or Similar Traditional Journals, I Get Rejected."





    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "As a Fan of Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, I Know That Progress Can Be Frustratingly Slow and What Is Typically Needed Is Either a Crisis or the Ascent of a New Generation of Scientists Who Did Not Build Their Careers on the Old Models and Theories."




    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "We Trace the Deeper Roots [of the Financial Crisis] to the Economics' Profession's Insistence on Constructing Models That, By Design, Disregard the Key Elements Driving Outcomes in Real World Markets."




    Knowledge@Wharton

  • "Rob Gets Himself So Worked Up Over What Someone Else Is Doing With Their Own Money and Not Bothering Rob in the Least. As Long As They Aren't Knocking on Your Basement Door, What Do You Care? They Are Happy and Content. Leave Well Enough Alone and Focus on Your Own Account."


    Dab, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Been on Forum Since the BBS Days and I Think Rob is Special. He Could Be an Internet Meme If He Put Some Effort Into It. Someday, He Will Realize That the Only Thing He's Good At Is Being an Epic Loser. He Just Needs to Embrace That Idea and Run With It. Watch Out, LOLCats, Here Comes Pathetic Guy!"


    Wabmaster, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "Your Lies Are Not Even in the Realm of the Possible, Much Less Actually Credible, Much Less Actually True."






    Drip Guy, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I'm Your Friend. I Am Not a Boil on Your Ass."






    Rob Bennett, In a Response Comment
    to One of the Greaney Goons

  • "You Guys [the Greaney Goons] Are the Same Jokers Who Have Done This Before, Sparring with Rob Over Nonsensical Issues On This Site and Others, Leveling Personal Attacks, and You Don't Even Use Real Names! Rob Is Entitled to His Opinion, But the Fact That You Challenge Every Jot and Tittle of What He Says Makes It Clear You Have An Unholy Agenda. Please Take It Elsehwere."

    Kevin Mercadante,
    Owner of the Out of Your Rut Site

  • "Rob, Take This As Friendly Advice. You're a Smart and Articulate Guy and You Could Be Making Valuable Contributions to This Discussion. I've Dealt with the Mentally Ill Before and I've Found That They Sometimes Can Be Reasonable If Gently Redirected."



    Goon Poster

  • "Always Remember Others May Hate You, But Those Who Hate You Don't Win Unless You Hate Them, and Then You Destroy Yourself."





    Richard Nixon

  • "I’m a Numbers Guy. And I Believe I Understand Rob’s Thesis, that Future Returns, Over the Next Decade, Have a Tight Inverse Correlation to the PE10 for the Starting Point. Remember, Correlation Doesn’t Need to be 100%, Only That There’s a Bell Curve of Potential Outcomes that Shift Meaningfully Based on the Input."


    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "What a Difference a Threat to Get the Father of Two Small Children Fired From His Job Has on an Investing Discussion, Eh? Long Live Buy-and-Hold! It’s Science! With a Marketing Twist!"




    Rob, Referring to the Wade Pfau Matter

  • "I Respect Rob and His Analysis. He's Bright, Energetic and Passionate. [The Goon Stuff] Is Really Nonsense. I Enjoy a Thought-Provoking Conversation With People I Respect."





    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "The Fact that Shiller is a Proponent of the Approach Takes it from a Fringe View to Mainstream, in my Opinion."






    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "I Have had Academic Researchers Tell Me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to do Honest Research Once Again. I Have had Investment Advisors Tell me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to Give Honest Investing Advice Again."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Let’s Call a Spade a Spade, Shall We? Wade Pfau Stole Your Research and Put His Name on it, Throwing You Just a Tiny Crumb of Acknowledgement to Ward Off a Lawsuit. He’s Profiting Handsomely By His Theft, Leading a Charmed Life, Widely Published, Widely Respected. While Rob Bennett Continues to Toil in Total Obscurity. It’s So Incredibly Unfair, I Think If It Happened to Me, It Could Actually Drive Me Insane."

    One of the Greaney Goons

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“If the Bennett/Pfau Research Is Not Worthy of a Nobel Prize, Why Did You Threaten Wade? You Would Have No Motive to Risk a Prison Sentence Unless the Research Was Very, Very, Very, Very Important. Your Own Criminal Behavior Tells the Tale.”

September 16, 2013 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently put to another blog entry at this site:

Wade said you are wrong and even mentioning the Nobel prize is just silly exaggeration.

He only said that after he was threatened, Pink.

The problem with threatening academic researchers is that it becomes impossible to have confidence they believe anything they say once they agree to change what they say in response to threats.

Wade made MANY comments indicating that he believed that the work was Nobel prize quality prior to when the threats were made.

In fact, you have done the same, Pink.

You said for years that my claim of May 13, 2002, that the numbers in the Old School SWr studies were wildly wrong was unbelievable because none of the “experts” had said this at the time. Now every “expert” in the field says that I was right all along.

My guess is that several of the “experts” had doubts about the Old School numbers but were afraid to post honestly because they know what the Buy-and-Hold Mafia does to honest researchers.

We have been making huge strides in our understanding of how stock investing works for 32 years now. But we have gained no benefits because the Buy-and-Hold Mafia has intimidated all who understand what the research really says into silence.

You obviously didn’t know about the errors.

Now you do.

That’s what Nobel Prize quality research does, Pink. It brings you up to speed on realities you never imagined.

My peer-reviewed research shows millions of middle-class investors how to reduce the risk of stock investing by 70 percent. That is BY FAR the biggest advance ever made in this field.

The idea that that research is not worthy of a Nobel prize is pure Goon nonsense.

If the research was not worthy of a Nobel Prize, why did you threaten Wade? There would be no motive to risk a prison sentence unless the research was very, very, very important.

Your own criminal behavior tells the tale.

Rob, the Fellow Who Believes that Every Investor Should Have Access to Honest Research and that the Buy-and-Hold Mafia Should Be Put in Prison Before the Close of Business Today

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau

“I Put Up a Post Reporting on the Errors in the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Many Years Before Any of the ‘Experts’ in This Field Had Discovered Them”

January 4, 2013 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I put to an article that my friend Academic Researcher Wade Pfau posted to the Market Watch site:

I am the person who discovered the errors in John Greaney’s safe withdrawal rate study. I put up a post reporting on them at a Motley Fool board that we posted at together on the morning of May 13, 2002, many years before any of the experts in this field were saying that it is not possible to calculate the safe withdrawal rate accurately without taking into account the valuation level that applies on the day the retirement begins.

A fantastic discussion followed in which hundreds of us learned some amazing things about how stock investing works. Unfortunately, John and some others did not want the learning experience to continue and engaged in abusive posting tactics to destroy the board. The comments of hundreds of our fellow community members who wanted this learning experience to continue are detailed in this article:

http://www.passionsaving.com/investing-discussion-boards.html

Wade is familier with this history. I have discussed different aspects of it with him in great depth on numerous occasions.

Stock investing is an intensely emotional endeavor. It is not possible to make sense of any element of the stock investing project without taking the effect of investor emotions on stock prices into account. The P/E10 metric has been shown in research to be the best tool for doing this. There was a time when we didn’t know this but that was 30 years ago. Shiller showed in research published in 1981 that valuations (emotions) must always be considered.

We will not get the SWR (or retirement planning in general) right until we work up the courage to acknowledge that investing is not strictly a numbers game. This is a numbers plus emotions game. P/E10 is the metric that permits us to take valuations into account. It is my strongly held belief that valuation-informed retirement planning strategies are the future.

Rob

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: academic research, retirement planning, SWRs, Wade Pfau

“Why the Heck Would I Want to Destroy the Credibility of the Academic Researcher Who Has Done More Than Any Other to Advance the Investing Strategy That I Believe Is Going to Pull Us Out of This Economic Crisis?”

October 10, 2012 by Rob

Set forth below is my response to a comment that was put to the blog last week charging me with having advanced a “screed” re Academic Researcher Wade Pfau:

You Goons say this sort of thing all the time, Trebor.

I am the biggest Wade Pfau booster alive on Planet Earth. Wade did the research showing that Valuation-Informed Indexing dramatically increases returns while also dramatically reducing risk. I am the person who developed the VII strategy. Why the heck would I want to destroy the credibility of the academic researcher who has done more than any other to advance the investing strategy that I believe is going to pull us out of the economic crisis? That’s insane.

What you are getting at, of course, is that I have argued that Wade made a terrible mistake to sacrifice his personal integrity and flip to the Goon side. He did. That’s going to follow him around for the rest of his lifetime. He will likely have lawsuits filed against him in days to come. He could land in prison. Is the popularity he has achieved by agreeing to side with the Goons and keep the Buy-and-Hold Tragedy going a few more months or a few more years worth it? I certainly do not think so.

Wade has two small children to worry about. I think in fairness that that should be mentioned. That’s a bit of an explanation. But it is not an excuse. If Wade does not possess the courage to stand up to the Goons, he needs to find another line of work. An academic researcher needs to report his findings honestly and accurately. People look to the academic research to learn the realities. You cannot let internet Goons intimidate you into saying things you do not believe.

Here is my grand summing-up article reporting on the many blog posts I wrote on my 16 months of e-mail correspondence with Wade:

http://arichlife.passionsaving.com/the-buy-and-hold-crisis/academic-researcher-silenced-by-threats-to-get-him-fired-from-his-job-after-showing-dangers-of-buy-and-hold-investing-strategies/

I love Wade, Trebor. I loved the work we did together. I miss working with him. I respect him and admire him. It breaks my heart to think about what he has done both to himself and to the many people who look to him to give helpful guidance on stock investing. I implored him not to go down the path he has gone down. Is there anything you can think of that I could have said that I did not say? If you suggest anything that makes sense, I will say it.

I will always be Wade’s friend. Any time he wants to contact me, he will get a warm welcome. You call that a “screed”.” I call it friendship. As far as I am concerned, Wade and I remain friends to this day. Wade doesn’t see it that way because he is ashamed of his betrayal. That’s something he needs to work out on his own. If he reaches a point where he wants to reestablish contact, I can promise you with 100 percent certainty that I will be there for him. Nothing would make me happier.

Please take good care. If you happen to be in contact with our friend Wade, I hope you will send him my warm regards.

Rob

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: academic research, Rob Bennett, SWRs, Wade Pfau

Coda — What Am I Going to Do Now That My Reporting on the Wade Pfau Saga Is Complete?

August 8, 2012 by Rob

I’m going to Disney World!

Well, not quite. I’m saving that for the day the Ban on Honest Posting comes to an end. But I’m doing something close. I’m going to Ocean City, New Jersey. We take off in a few minutes. I will not be approving comments to the blog during the time I am gone (sand and computers don’t mix, according to Old Farmer Hocus). But fear not, Goon friends! If you file your stupid comments — er, I mean your well-informed and helpful and much-appreciated comments — now, I will read them when I get back and get them quickly posted or (more likely) sent to the Trash Bin along with most of your smelly, yucky, anti-human comments– er, I mean well-informed and helpful and much-appreciated comments.

I will return to the computer on Friday, August 17, 2012, presuming that one of the Greaney Goons doesn’t shoot me down in cold blood while I am playing a round of miniature golf with my boys on the boardwalk.

I earned this one!

I’ve posted an article to the “The Buy-and-Hold Crisis” section of the site titled Academic Researcher Silenced by Threats to Get Him Fired From His Job After Showing Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies — Teaser Version. The purpose of the teaser version is to give me something to send to political bloggers who might not immediately see the political implications of the story and might be enticed by some of the hottest Wade Pfau comments into reading the version that provides more background and context and detail.

My best wishes to all my internet friends, both the Valuation-Informed Indexers and the Buy-and-Holders.

Stay the Course!

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: academic research, buy-and-hold, financial crisis, Value Indexing, Wade Pfau. Rob Bennett. John Bogle, Wall Street corruption

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #18 — The Problem Is That Not One Buy-and-Holder Today Has Confidence in Buy-and-Hold

August 5, 2012 by Rob

I would be embarrassed.

If someone on “my side” put forward a death threat, I would cringe. If someone on “my side” engaged in defamation, I would disassociate myself from the comments. If someone on “my side” sought unjustified board bannings, I would object if the site administrator went along. If someone on “my side” threatened to get an academic researcher fired from his job, I would rush to put up comments saying that I want to know what that academic researcher really believes, that silencing the researchers makes it impossible for any of us to trust what any of the researchers say from that point forward.

It’s a good idea to learn how to reduce your message to a few words, to figure out how you would make your pitch if you were trying to convince someone during the 30 seconds you would share in an elevator. So I am going to keep this one short.

Wade Pfau published research showing that Valuation-Informed Indexing has provided far greater returns than Buy-and-Hold at greatly reduced risk for the entire 140 years now in the historical record. The research of this Ph.D. from Princeton is the most important research ever published in this field. We all should be thanking him. We all should be exploring his ideas. We all should be making the shift to Valuation-Informed Indexing and encouraging our friends and neighbors and-co-workers to do the same.

John Bogle isn’t doing that. Bill Bernstein isn’t doing that. Scott Burns isn’t doing that. Jonathan Clements isn’t doing that. Larry Swedroe isn’t doing that.

They don’t believe.

It’s that simple.

If they believed, they would react differently to the news of the silencing of a great researcher. There are two legitimate responses here. One is to make the switch from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing. One is to make the case for why Buy-and-Hold remains a legitimate strategy despite the publication of the powerful new research findings.

Threatening to get the researcher fired from his job is not a legitimate response. Creating a “hostile atmosphere” (Wade’s term) for the researcher is not a legitimate response. Ignoring the research is not a legitimate response. Ignoring the story of the silencing of the researcher is not a legitimate response.

The Buy-and-Holders do not have confidence in their strategy. That’s 11 words. That’s the story here.

They follow it. There is a mountain of evidence showing that they follow it. They are not lying about that part.

But they don’t believe in it. Not deep in their hearts.

The only question that remains is when they will work up the courage to say that publicly and thereby let the effort to learn what does work to proceed.

I hope that happens soon. I have a funny hunch that deep in their hearts every last one of the Buy-and-Holders hopes the same thing. I promise to continue doing my part to bring them to a point where they feel able to say The Three Magic words and thereby to see their long-deferred dream of promoting a smart, simple, safe and truly research-backed strategy for millions of middle-class investors come true.

Hate is not a sound long-term investing strategy. Love is the answer. I know that much for sure.

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: buy-and-hold, financial crisis, investing strategies, John Bogle, Rob Bennett, Valuation-Infomed Indexing, Wade Pfau

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #17 — How Valuation-Informed Indexing Will Reach Its Tipping Point

August 4, 2012 by Rob

Wade says that I “desperately” want to hear researchers and other experts in this field say that the Old School safe-withdrawal-rate studies need to be corrected. The suggestion is that I place too much importance on this matter. Others have said similar things. My ten-year effort to get the errors in the retirement studies corrected has been referred to as my “obsession.” I have been told that I am on a “crusade.” It has been said that my passion re this matter causes me to suffer “death by verbosity.”

I don’t buy it.

When I gain the right to post honestly on the internet re SWRs and many other critically important investment-related topics, it won’t be only Rob Bennett who gains that right. Robert Shiller (the author of Irrational Exuberance) will gain that right. Vanguard Founder John Bogle will gain that right. William Bernstein (author of The Four Pillars of Investing) will gain that right. And on and on and on.

When I gain the right to post honestly, we ALL gain the right to post honestly. There’s huge leverage in that. We have denied ourselves the right to speak openly and plainly and honestly and realistically about how stock investing works for 30 years now. Behind the scenes, we have achieved huge advances in our understanding of the realities during those three decades. When we give ourselves permission to talk about what we have learned (and thus for the first time to fully understand it — we humans take in knowledge by talking it over), we will shoot ahead at an amazing pace. Can you imagine where we would be today in the electronics field if a law had been passed in 1981 saying that advances in that field had to cease because it would hurt the feelings of the people who didn’t know everything there was to know about electronics in 1974 for us to continue to move ahead? There’s huge leverage to be had by permitting thousands of smart and good people to use their brains again and help us all learn how stock investing really works even when telling that story means pointing out that there was a time decades ago when we didn’t know it all perfectly.

The Buy-and-Holders did something potentially wonderful back in the early 1970s. They developed an investing strategy rooted not in vague and subjective impressions and opinions but in the hard stuff, academic research based on an examination of the historical return data. It’s that breakthrough that has permitted us to make so much progress. There would be no Valuation-Informed Indexing today had it not been for work the Buy-and-Holders did in earlier times arguing that we should research investing questions rather than just offer off-the-cuff subjective opinions about them. What we didn’t see in the early 1970s was how the power of research could be used to hold us back rather than to push us forward. It is the claim that Buy-and-Hold is rooted in research that has made it so influential a strategy. But, because the Buy-and-Holders got it wrong, all that influence has been used to steer investors in the wrong direction. The road out of this economic crisis is to permit the researchers to report honestly and accurately what they learn when they study the data. It’s not putting numbers into tables that is the purpose of investment research. It’s discovering truths about investing that is the purpose. To discover truths, we need to become able to acknowledge errors when we make them.

That’s why this is such a big deal. That’s why I am “desperate” to see the Old School SWR studies corrected. Causing millions of people to suffer failed retirements is a big deal. The Buy-and-Holders want to avoid acknowledging the errors they made in the studies in the worst way. The Old Boys Club has sent down the word — you spill the beans re this one and you’ll never be able to get work in this field again. But what happens if the economic crisis grows so terrible that even people in the investing field begin to feel the need to take action to bring it to an end? I believe that we will then see forward movement. And it won’t be a little bit of forward movement. Valuation-Informed Indexing is close to its Tipping Point as a breakthrough idea. Once we get a few of the big names in this field developing the courage to stand up to the Goons, we will see an avalanche of investing insights. We will as a society experience the benefits of 30 years of insights over the course of about six months of time. It will be something else!

We need to get to that Tipping Point. There’s nothing intellectually we need to do. We have the data that shows that Valuation-Informed Indexing is superior. We have the research that shows that Valuation-Informed Indexing is superior. We have the expert statements showing that Valuation-Informed Indexing is superior. What we need is a means to spread the word to the millions of middle-class investors crying out for a more sensible and effective way to invest. There’s a sense in which we even have that. The internet is a powerful communications medium. We could spread the word quickly if those who knew what works were not afraid of what will be done to their careers if they dare to speak up. And we even have rules in place at all our boards and blogs protecting those people from the brutal tactics of the Buy-and-Hold Goons. We are on the 99-yard line. All we really need today is effective enforcement of the rules that in theory already are in place at the web sites where we need to be spreading the word.

Set forth below are 10 examples of experts who would love to be able to tell the truth about stock investing, if only as a society we were willing to do what we need to do to make them feel safe doing so.

1) I learned about the errors in the Old School safe-withdrawal-rate studies by reading John Bogle’s book. Bogle explained that Reversion to the Mean is an “Iron Law” of stock investing. If high prices always lead to low prices, the safe withdrawal rate obviously cannot be the same when prices are high as it is when prices are low. Bogle would love to feel free to tell the truth about stock investing, as revealed by the last 30 years of academic research. We should let him.

2) Years before all of the major publications in this field acknowledged the errors in the Old School studies, one of the Goons asked William Bernstein whether he agreed with my claim that the Old School studies employed an invalid methodology. Bernstein said that “of course” the methodology used was valid but that anyone who was giving thought to making use of one of the Old School studies to plan a retirement would be well-advised to “FuhGedDaBouDit!” The second part of his statement is obviously just a down-to-earth way of saying that the methodology used in the studies was analytically invalid (if a valid methodology had been used, the numbers generated by the studies would not have been so wildly off the mark). Bernstein would love to feel free to tell the truth about stock investing, as revealed by the last 30 years of academic research. We should let him.

3) Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller described the theory behind the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept in his bestselling book Irrational Exuberance. But Shiller held back from including even one paragraph in the book telling investors how they should invest now that we know that Buy-and-Hold strategies can never work in the long run. Shiller told us why in an interview in which he said that he has never dared to go public with all he knows about how stock investing works because he would be smeared as “unprofessional” if he did so (I have a funny hunch that I might know what investing strategy it would be that would inspire its followers to do something like that). I wouldn’t be at all surprised to learn that Shiller has already written Irrational Exuberance II, the book that describes what it is that investors need to do now that they know how dangerous it is not to practice long-term timing. Shiller would love to feel free to tell the truth about stock investing, as revealed by the last 30 years of academic research. We should let him.

4) Philip Taylor is a blogger who organizes the annual Financial Blogger Conferences. I submitted an article on Valuation-Informed Indexing for inclusion in the conference magazine. Phil rejected the article not because he does not see merit in the investing strategy but solely because he knows that bloggers don’t today know enough about the dangers of Buy-and-Hold and the benefits of Valuation-Informed Indexing to appreciate how much they would be helping their readers to lead the transition to the new strategy. He told me: “I assure you, my rejection of your article has nothing to do with my opinion on your particular strategy. I don’t need convincing of anything. Your way is perfect as far as I am concerned. Go preach it to the nations. #FinCon12, though, is not the right pulpit for this topic. The bloggers just don’t care. They have shown time and time again in the surveys that these types of topics are not of interest. Please respect that I know my audience.” Phil is right in what he says about out fellow bloggers. I have experienced this indifference to the new strategy on hundreds of occasions. But what if Bogle and all the others came out with public statements saying that Buy-and-Hold is the past and Valuation-Informed Indexing is the future? Would financial bloggers not be thrilled to lead the effort to get accurate and honest and realistic information about how to invest in stocks out to their readers? The question answers itself. Taylor and all other financial bloggers would love to feel free to tell the truth about stock investing. We should let him.

5) Mike Piper is the author of the Oblivious Investor blog. I had a long talk with him at last year’s Financial Bloggers Conference about the ban on honest posting in place today at his site and in place today at a good number of other sites. Mike told me that “there is nothing I would like more” than to see a lifting of the ban. But Mike has a problem. He permitted honest posting at his site for a time and my daily comments pointing out the dangers of Buy-and-Hold enraged his readers, most of whom follow the Buy-and-Hold strategy. If Mike were to permit honest posting, would he be able to retain his readership? If Bogle and all the others spoke out, he sure could. If Mike were giving honest and accurate and research-supported investing advice, his readership would skyrocket and all those Buy-and-Hold readers who are upset today to read the truth about stock investing would be thrilled to do so. But Mike needs our help. He needs Bogle and lots of others to give him “cover.” Mike would love to feel free to tell the truth about stock investing. We should let him.

6) Financial Planner Michael Kitces wrote at his blog that: “There are time-periods where stocks are a terrible addition to that portfolio. Yet inexplicably, we as planners STILL tend to suggest that it is ‘risky’ to not own stocks when in reality the only material risk is to our business and ability to keep clients, NOT to the clients’ goal.” I think it would be fair to say that Michael very much looks forward to the day when he can tell his clients the truth about stock investing. He has told me in e-mail correspondence that he knows of numerous financial planners who were in the days following the 2008 crash discussing the possibility of starting to let their clients in on some of the stuff that all those who work in this field today know about but dare not give voice to in public comments. Michael would love to feel free to tell the truth about stock investing. We should let him.

7) New York Times Financial Blogger Carl Richards has said of my work: “I have read everything I can about Valuation-Informed Indexing. What you are doing has huge value.” But Carl too banned me from his site. Again the reason was the burning rage that my reports on what the academic research says about stock investing caused in many of his readers, people who were trying to maintain a belief in Buy-and-Hold principles three decades after the research showed that there is precisely zero chance that Buy-and-Hold can ever work in the long term. Carl would love to feel free to tell the truth about stock investing. We should let him.

8) In the wake of the onset of the economic crisis, a federal commission was formed to identify its cause. The effort bore no good fruit. Democrats on the commission blamed the policies of Republicans. Republicans on the commission blamed the policies of Democrats. No one paid any attention to what the commission said because we all hear Democrats yelling at Republicans and Republicans yelling at Democrats on a daily basis. I have a funny hunch that the members of the commission would have loved to have felt free to identify the obvious true cause of the crisis. Stocks were overpriced by $12 trillion in 2000. Even John Bogle, the King of Buy-and-Hold, acknowledges that stock prices always return to fair-value levels after the passage of 10 years or so. Bogle calls this an “Iron Law” of stock investing. So everyone paying attention knew in 2000 that roughly $12 trillion of consumer buying power would be disappearing from our economy by sometime near the end of the first decade of the 21st Century. There’s your economic crisis! The members of the economic crisis commission would love to feel free to tell the truth about stock investing. We should let them.

9) Rajiv Sethie, a Professor of Economics at Columbia University, said of my work: “Rob Bennett makes the claim that market timing based on aggregate PE ratios can be a far more effective strategy. I can see how it could be true.” Rajiv would love to do the research proving it to be so and to win the Nobel prize that would follow from doing so. If he weren’t aware of what was done to Wade Pfau when he did this and what has happened to numerous others in this field who have dared to speak honestly about what the last 30 years of academic research shows us, Rahiv would have done that research a long time ago. If he hadn’t, hundreds of other fine academic researchers would have jumped at the chance to win that Nobel prize. Rajiv and hundreds of other fine academic researchers would love to feel free to tell the truth about stock investing We should let them.

10) The first two words in the February 2005 e-mail sent to me by Dallas Morning News Columnist Scott Burns in response to my e-mail pointing out the errors in the Old School SWR studies were: “You’re right!” Scott asked me in that e-mail for my telephone number so that he could interview me in preparation for an article letting his readers know of the dangers of following the Old School studies. He thought better of it. Scott later wrote an article pointing out that “some people” believe that the Old School studies are analytically invalid. But he was careful not to let his readers know of his personal viewpoint that these criticism are on the mark. And he was careful not to mention the name of the person who pointed out the errors in the studies to him. And he was careful not to include a link to my Retirement Risk Evaluator calculator (which reports the SWR numbers accurately) in his article. And he was careful to put forward numerous defamatory comments about me to keep himself in the favor of the Lindauerheads and the Greaney Goons. Scott would love to feel free to tell the truth about stock investing. We should let him.

We all want to feel free to tell the truth about stock investing. Why wouldn’t we? We all benefit from knowing how stock investing works. And we can only understand things that we feel free to discuss. Permitting honest posting on safe withdrawal rates and many other critically important investment-related topics is a win/win/win/win/win.

So why don’t we do it?

We don’t like to have death threats directed at us. We don’t like to have tens of thousands of acts of defamation directed at us. We don’t like to be banned from the internet sites we frequent. We don’t like to have internet Goons sending defamatory e-mails to our employers in efforts to get us fired from our jobs.

Once even a small number of influential people speak out in opposition to the Campaign of Terror, it’s all over. Buy-and-Hold is no more at that point. Valuation-Informed Indexing is the new dominant model at that point.

The Tipping Point is one price crash away. It is the next price crash that will change things in a way that will permit us to to begin work on bringing about the greatest period of economic growth ever seen in U.S. history. There is a reason why it’s darkest before the dawn. It often takes a whole big bunch of darkness to help the humans work up the courage to do what deep in their hearts they knew for many years very much needed to be done.

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: academic research, investing theory, Rob Bennett, the future of investing, Value Indexing, Wade Pfau

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #16 – The Secret to Solving the Entire Mystery

August 3, 2012 by Rob

Everyone wants to invest successfully. So there’s lots of money to be made in helping people do so. If Valuation-Informed Indexing is as superior as Wade Pfau’s research shows it to be, there should be hundreds of businesses being formed to spread the word in one way or another. Instead I am talking all the time about the Goon Squads who follow me around everywhere I post on the internet. How can this be? If I knew of a better way to invest, the world would beat a path to my door. No one would listen to the Goon Squads. There’s something weird going on here.

I will reveal the secret to solving the mystery by telling you a story about my mother and my older brother Richard.

Richard is 65. He has been smoking two packs of cigarettes since he was 16. My mother died a few years ago. In the years before she died, she was worried about how things were going to go after she passed from the scene. One of the things she worried about was my brother’s health. She would say to me: “Why doesn’t he quit? He knows that smoking that much is bad. He’s so smart!”

Of course he knows. We all know that the bad things we do to ourselves are bad. The trouble is that, once we find emotional comfort in some bad behavior (for me it’s eating too many chocolate chip cookies, for my mother it was playing the slot machines in Atlantic City), we use our brains not to avoid the bad behavior but to rationalize it. My brother can tell himself that we all die from something, if it’s not the cigarettes that get him it will be something else. I can tell myself that I am healthy except for the weight thing and that the extra weight hasn’t caused me to have a heart attack yet. My mother could tell herself that, if you count the prizes she won at the casinos, she probably broke even in the end. We all break even with the casinos in the end. In our minds.

I don’t say that people shouldn’t be able to sell cigarettes or chocolate-chip cookies or chances to win a million dollars at the slot machines. Making that stuff appear as appealing as all get-out is all part of the wonderful game, so far as I am concerned. I say that we have a right as American citizens to ruin our lives however we please!

But I say that The Stock-Selling Industry crosses a line when it tells us that there is some mystical, magical research somewhere that shows that there is no need to consider price when buying stocks.

There is no such research. You don’t have to take my word for it. Wade Pfau holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton. If there were any research supporting Buy-and-Hold, he would have found it. He looked. He looked hard. He found nothing. That’s because there is nothing.

It’s a lie.

We can use softer words. We can say it’s marketing. Like the idea that you are really going to win the lottery. Like the idea that eating cookies will make your troubles go away. Like the idea that smoking eases stress in anything but the most temporary way.

People trying to sell us junk tells lies all the time. But the lie that The Stock-Selling Industry tells us is an especially pernicious one.

We all know the other side of the story when it comes to cigarettes and cookies and slot machines. A lot of us fall for the lies (and have a great deal of fun doing it!). But we all know the other side of the story. We are exposed to different sources of information. Doctors tell us the truth about cigarettes. Nutritionists tell us the truth about cookies. Friends tell us the truth about casinos.

Who tells us the truth about stock investing?

Just about no one does. There’s too much money in this field for the people who make a buck telling the lies to permit the other side of the story to be told. So it is made clear to people like Wade Pfau that they either get with the program or they find another line of work. This is a field in which the academic research is cited on a daily basis. But not honestly. Honest reports of what the research says would undermine the marketing slogans. Stocks are not always best for the long run — there are times when money market accounts offer a better deal. Timing always works — so long as it is the long-term variety. There really is such a thing as a free lunch — Valuation-Informed Indexers earn far higher returns while taking on far less risk. They always have. They always will. Learning is a free lunch. That’s how it works in the field of stock investing as much as that is how it works in all other fields. Learning how stock investing works is a free lunch. Learn how stock investing works and you’ll be able to retire many years sooner. You’ll be able to live a richer life.

I want to be able to teach millions of middle-class people how to live richer lives. That’s the work I’ve taken on. That’s why the Buy-and-Holders hate me with such a burning passion. The more people who come to learn the truth, the fewer there are to fall for their marketing slogans.

It’s not just that the experts in this field lie to us. It’s that we want them to lie to us. So they can tell us the most obvious lies imaginable and get away with it. Who is going to call them on it? The people begging for more lies?

We’re in a trap and we need to find a way out. The only way out is through learning. Fewer people smoke today than in earlier days. We got accurate information out to people and they elected not to take up the habit. Some couldn’t give up the habit entirely but cut back. Those who haven’t cut back are thinking about it. Perhaps some day the time will be right.

Investors are always going to fall for Get Rich Quick schemes. I cannot change that.

But I think that I should be able to call people out on it when they claim that there is research supporting their mumbo-jumbo marketing claims. If we cannot do that, there’s really no hope. We all find emotional appeal in Get Rich Quick investing schemes and now we have “experts” telling us that there is “research” supporting those emotional impulses. And there are gangs of internet Goons who direct savage smear campaigns at anyone who tells the truth about what the research says. You can’t beat that. That’s too much. If that remains our story, the free enterprise system goes down.

I have been able to persuade people of the merits of following research-supported strategies when I have been able to find places that for a time permitted civil and reasoned discussions of investing. But the Buy-and-Hold Goons want no part of civil and reasoned discussion. So those places don’t last long. Where do we go from here?

If the experts would tell us the truth, we all would be better investors. But there is an awful lot of money in it for them if they keep repeating the Buy-and-Hold lies.

If we insisted that the experts tell the truth, they would have to do it. But how can we insist when we don’t understand the realities ourselves? We would have to become informed to insist. And we cannot become informed without first insisting. It’s a Catch-22.

My hope is that a deepening of the economic crisis will melt hearts.

Stock investing is intellectually easy. It is emotionally hard. We need a new group of investing experts who tries to help us overcome our negative emotions rather than tries to make a quick buck off of exploiting them.

I don’t want to outlaw cigarettes. But I want people to be able to report honestly that smoking causes cancer.

Buy-and-Hold Investing causes failed retirements and economic crises.

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: Investor Psychology, Rob Bennett, Wade Pfau

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #15 — No Apologies?

August 2, 2012 by Rob

Where are the apologies?

I’ve generated hundreds of important investing insights in my podcasts and weekly columns and articles and discussion-board comments of the past 10 years. The Buy-and-Hold Machine is not happy to see me telling people about those insights and yet has not been able to find any flaws in the academic research that supports them. Let’s say that the insights are all baloney. Let’s say they are all wrongheaded. All but one. The first one cannot be wrongheaded because even The Buy-and-Hold Machine now (tens years later) agrees that that one is on point. The Old School safe-withdrawal-rate studies got the numbers that millions of middle-class people used to plan their retirements wildly wrong. There’s no argument anymore than I am off base re that one. We have achieved a consensus at least re that one.

So where are the apologies?

I am owed an apology re that one even if every other insight I have generated is baloney, no? It was no small insight. One of the primary reasons why people invest in stocks is to finance their retirements. The Old School studies didn’t get the retirement numbers a little wrong, they got them wildly wrong. A failed retirement is a serious life setback. I helped everyone out — or at least I tried to help everyone out — when I dared (it took courage) to step forward and tell the truth about safe withdrawal rates. I helped — or tried to help — the retirees who would have suffered failed retirements if I didn’t work up the courage to take on The Machine (the retirees may suffer failed retirements all the same because of the ten-year cover-up but I also spoke out in the strongest possible terms against the cover-up). And I helped the “experts” in this field who were leading the cover-up. They have incurred hundreds of billions of dollars in potential legal liabilities. I did all I could to help them avoid those liabilities. No?

So where are the apologies?

Where are the expressions of gratitude? John Bogle has not sent me an e-mail saying “Thanks, man!” Huh? What’s the problem here?

Where are the offers to help me spread my ideas far and wide?

Where are the links to my web site?

Where are the articles demanding that the Goons drop their Campaign of Terror against our board and blog communities, including a number of communities that I built pretty much with my bare hands?

Is there a problem?

There is a problem.

We are ashamed.

All of us.

We need to get over it.

Do you know why the Buy-and-Holders act like they know it all? A number of people who agree with my general take have said that it is because there is money in it. What industry wouldn’t want people to believe that the product it offers for sale is worth buying at any price imaginable? That’s what Buy-and-Hold says, is it not? When the stock-selling experts tell us not to time the market, what they are really saying is not to take price into consideration when buying stocks. Just buy stocks! Lots of them! Price be darned! As Church Lady might observe, “How convenient!”

I certainly agree that money-making comes into play here. I do NOT believe that this is the primary problem, however. I think that some of my friends may at times fall into the trap of being a little too cynical.

Say that we were to open up every internet board and blog to the discussion of Valuation-Informed Indexing. Say that the idea spread like wildfire. Say that one year from now 90 percent of investors were Valuation-Informed Indexers. Would the profits of The Stock-Selling Industry go up or down?

They would go up. Investors who understand how stock investing works have confidence in their financial futures. People who have confidence in their financial futures buy stuff. If most investors became Valuation-Informed Indexers, the fears that keeping consumers from spending and extending and worsening our economic crisis would be overcome. We would see an economic boom. And investors who understand how stock investing works buy more stocks than investors who are intimidated by the subject. Valuation-Informed Indexing is common-sense investing. If the experts got behind the idea, more people than ever before would buy stocks. The transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing would be a boon for millions of middle-class investors and for the industry that advises them both.

So this is not really a money thing. Those who participated in the ten-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School SWR studies are worried about lawsuits. To that extent it’s a money thing. But the opposition to honest posting came long before lawsuits were a big concern. The core problem here is something different. If we are going to overcome this mysterious force that is holding us back from an economic boom and that is threatening to pull us into the Second Great Depression, we need to develop a true understanding of what it is.

What is really at the core of all this craziness?

On the surface, it appears to be arrogance. The Buy-and-Holders don’t admit mistakes. They don’t ever, ever, ever, ever, ever admit mistakes.

But what’s behind the arrogance? Why are they like this?

Say that you were a doctor and that you thought that cutting someone open might help them with their problem but you were not sure. What would you do? A lot of us would not be able to cut unless we were sure. So we would try to convince ourselves that we were sure. Then, if there were a bad result and someone questioned our decision, we would become angry and defensive. The person questioning the choice is giving voice to our own doubts. So their words really hurt. And it becomes important to us to silence that voice.

That’s why the Buy-and-Holders hate me. It’s not that I am saying something they don’t think makes sense. If they thought that what I said doesn’t make sense, it wouldn’t bother them. They would laugh it off. They wonder themselves if what I am saying is right and, when I give voice to their doubts, it makes them go crazy. The want me to shut up. And I won’t. Not because I want to hurt them. Because I believe that they are on the wrong track and that deep in their hearts they want to be on the right track. So I am doing for them what they would want me to do for them if they were able to think straight about these issues.

Why can’t the doctor acknowledge that he really doesn’t know if cutting is a good idea or not? Because cutting is a big deal. No one wants to be cut for no good reason. You can’t just go ahead and cut unless you are sure. Unfortunately, the humans are born ignorant. We don’t it all. Sometimes we are guessing. That’s sometimes so even when we are making decisions as important as whether to cut another human body or not.

If a perfect world, the investing experts could continue doing studies until they learned everything there is to know and only then offer any advice to investors. We don’t live in an ideal world. In the world in which we live in people need investing advice TODAY. We don’t have perfect information today. So we might mess up. But we cannot take a pass. We have to recommend something.

The Buy-and-Holders did the best they could given the limited extent of their knowledge when they designed the Buy-and-Hold Model. But, since the matter they were advising people on (what to do with their retirement money) was so important, they acted like they were a lot more confident than they were. And, because they cannot stand the thought of having caused the great human misery they caused if they really are wrong (as they now suspect), they become highly defensive when challenged. They cannot admit they were wrong. They feel that their lives will have been wasted if they admit that.

I don’t say that the investing experts did nothing wrong. What I say is that we all did wrong too. We should have made clear to them that we don’t expect them to have all the answers. We never should have started calling John Bogle “Saint Jack.” That put him in a terrible spot. That made it that much harder for him to acknowledge his mistakes. He feels that he needs to live up to the exalted view we have of him. We would have been better friends if we had made it a practice to ask hard questions of him, to always challenge him to learn more and to sharper his ideas over time.

So it is not only John Bogle who today is feeling shame. All the people who followed John Bogle’s ideas are feeling shame too. That’s most of us.

The shame makes us defensive and our defensiveness causes the problem to grow worse and the problem growing worse makes us feel more shame. We’re caught in a trap of self-recrimination.

I believe that the next price crash will help. The next crash will scare us more than did the first one. People who become very scared give up their pride in desperation. If we give up our pride, we will open our minds to accepting ideas that show that we got things wrong in earlier times. That sort of thing doesn’t seem like such a big deal when things reach a point where your way of life is at risk.

We need to hurt. We need to suffer. It’s the only way past the defensiveness and the anger and the shame that keeps us in ignorance today.

We all want the same things. I did not develop the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept by myself. Hundreds of people helped me. Including lots of Buy-and-Holders. Including John Bogle.

I wish that John Bogle and my other Buy-and-Hold friends could see that and that it could help them feel less ashamed of the mistakes they have made. If they felt less shame, they would find it easy to thank me. And I would find it easy to shake their hands and say “don’t worry about it” and begin working together with my Buy-and-Hold friends to rebuild our broken economy.

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: buy-and-hold, John Bogle, Rob Bennett, safe withdrawal rate

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #14 — This Is Not Primarily an Investing Story, It Is Primarily a Political Story

August 1, 2012 by Rob

Response Article #13 argued that the ten-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School safe-withdrawal rate studies is the biggest news story of my lifetime (I’m 55). It sure hasn’t gotten that kind of play. What’s up?

People are expecting the story to be an investing story or perhaps an economics story. It is both of those. But at its core this is a political story. I say nothing “controversial” in any intellectual sense when I say that researchers need to take the valuation level that applies at the beginning of a retirement into consideration when calculating the safe withdrawal rate that applies for that retirement. This is an obvious implication of the research published by Yale University Economics Professor Robert Shiller in 1981. Everyone knows that you need to consider valuations.But no one does it. Why does no one do what everyone knows always must be done? That’s the meat of the story. Answering that one requires making reference to how The Stock-Selling Industry makes use of its power and money and influence and contacts in an effort to keep the Buy-and-Hold investing strategy alive another day, another week, another month, another year. That aspect of the story is political in nature.

Listed below are ten political questions that reporters covering this story need to address in their reports.

1) Why does Robert Shiller’s “revolutionary” book Irrational Exuberance not tell investors what to do? Shiller is masterful in describing the theory behind Valuation-Informed Indexing. But why does he not address the practical questions that are of greatest concern to most investors. It is politically incorrect to do so today? This is the line that may not be crossed. I have been told by the Goons on many occasions that it is not what I say that inflames them but how I say it. What they mean is that my criticisms of Buy-and-Hold are rooted in objective findings, not subjective impressions. I don’t say that I personally favor the use of a withdrawal rate lower than 4 percent for retirements that began at the top of the bubble. I say that the academic research in this field shows that the withdrawal rate for those retirements is 1.6 percent. That’s a far more powerful criticism. No one can prove the value of a subjective impression. Numbers can be checked. Every researcher who has employed an analytically valid methodology to identify the SWR that applied at the top of the bubble has generated a number close to 1.6 percent. No one has generated a number anything close to 4 percent. That’s because the 4 percent number is wrong. 

Buy-and-Holders have no objection to people saying that they follow strategies other than Buy-and-Hold. They are intolerant of objective statements showing that their investing strategy never works in the long run. Buy-and-Hold is a marketing gimmick. The Stock-Selling Industry has always pushed Get Rich Quick investing schemes. The first rule of marketing is that people buy when you form an emotional connection with them. There is nothing that makes stock investors love you more than putting forward claims seeming to show that their Get Rich Quick dreams can come true. It never works out but such claims possess huge marketing appeal during out-of-control bull markets. There is obviously nothing wrong with those trying to sell stocks making such claims. Using puffery to sell stuff is part of how our economic system works.

But Buy-and-Hold advocates claim that their strategy is beyond puffery. They claim that the idea that there is no need for investors to adjust their stock allocations downward when prices rise to insanely dangerous levels is supported by research. This goes beyond the normal sort of puffery. This claim is demonstrably false. There is 30 years of academic research showing that stocks are more risky when prices are high. So investors who fail to adjust their stock allocations are permitting their risk levels to go wildly out of whack. That’s dangerous stuff and a good argument can be made that it is against public policy for “experts” in this field to advance such claims. We all lose when millions of middle-class investors see large portions of their retirement savings disappear and thus become unwilling to spend at earlier levels on goods and services; a broad unwillingness to spend always brings on an economic crisis. But even this could be tolerated so long as it remained possible for those seeking to offer better-informed and more realistic investing advice to challenge the claims of the Get Rich Quickers/Buy-and-Holders.

The Buy-and-Holders have gone a step further in their ten-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School SWR studies. They have put forward death threats. They have advanced tens of thousands of defamatory posts. They have demanded unjustified board bannings. They have threatened to get an academic researcher fired from his job. Wade Pfau described what he experienced when he posted at the Bogleheads Forum as a “hostile atmosphere.” It’s not just that Mel Lindauer (co-author of the Book The Bogleheads Guide to Investing) accused Wade of unethical research practices when Wade posted his breakthrough research findings at the board. It is that no one other than Wade objected when he did so. John Bogle posts at that board but he kept it zipped. Bill Bernstein posts at that board but he kept it zipped. Larry Swedroe posts at that board but he kept it zipped. Rick Ferri posts at that board but he kept it zipped. It became clear to Wade that his reputation would be destroyed is he continued to present research showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing over Buy-and-Hold and to state his honest belief that retirement studies that get the numbers wildly wrong need to be promptly corrected.

The Stock-Selling Industry today is like Penn State in the years when the Sandusky scandal was being hushed up. Lots of people want to talk. All know that to talk means career death. The investing advice field is today 100 percent corrupt. To fix the problem, we need to have big-name people speak out. Had Wade knew that there were big-name people who would speak out against the abusive posting practices of those who have posted in “defense” of Lindauer and Greaney, he would never have given ten seconds of consideration to flipping. Wade is responsible for two small children. No academic researcher responsible for two small children should be placed in the circumstances in which he was placed. No academic researcher should be forced to choose between doing his job with integrity or being able to make a living in his chosen field. Wade and all others in this field should be able to do both. That won’t be possible until the Campaign of Terror against our board and blog communities has come to a full and complete stop and posts pointing out the dangers of Buy-and-Hold strategies have become so commonplace that no one sees anything even the slightest bit “controversial” about them.

2) Why does the book The Myth of Rational Markets not tell investors how they should change their investing strategies now that the Efficient Market Hypothesis has been discredited? Shiller’s is not the only important book addressing these matters that strangely fails to address itself to the practical question of how to invest given what we have learned over the past three decades. You see the same thing in the book The Myth of Rational Markets. The book does a great job of explaining why the mistakes that made Buy-and-Hold so dangerous a strategy were made in the first place. We didn’t know it all. As we learn more, we need to make changes. Surprise! Surprise! Again, though, the book cops out on the question of how our investing strategies need to change now that we know what we have learned over the past 30 years. That’s what Wade Pfau’s research told us. That’s why Wade Pfau was singled out for “special treatment.” That’s why Wade Pfau has announced that he will no longer be doing research on the “controversial” question of whether Valuation-Informed Indexing has given superior results to Buy-and-Hold for the entire 140 years of stock market history now available to us.

We need to have these practical questions answered. We cannot even begin to answer them in a definitive way until we hear from hundreds if not thousands of people. We cannot hear from any until we make it clear to all that reporting on the 140 years of historical data showing that Buy-and-Hold has never worked well for any long-term investor is no crime against the state. Or is it?

3) What needs to be done to launch a national debate on the question of whether Buy-and-Hold or Valuation-Informed Indexing is superior?  I have been saying for years now that the obvious way to bring the Campaign of Terror to an end is for John Bogle to give a speech in which he acknowledges that he was wrong about long-term timing (he said that it never works but the research shows that it always works) and for the New York Times to report on the speech on its front page. That would do it. I have had many middle-class investors tell me that the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept makes perfect sense to them but that they feel that, given that it is their retirement money that is at stake, they must place their confidence in “experts.” Bogle is the most respected expert in the eyes of middle-class investors. If Bogle were to acknowledge that long-term timing always works and in fact is required for those seeking a realistic chance of long-term investing success, that would trigger a national debate on the merits of Valuation-Informed Indexing. People are very interested in these questions. Hundreds of my fellow investors have told me so. But people are afraid to violate social taboos. People need reassurance that it is “okay” to talk about these matters.

4) To what extent did Bogle or other “experts” encourage the Campaign of Terror against our board communities? I have sent two e-mails to Bogle asking for his help in getting Lindauer banned from the Bogleheads Forum. He has not responded. This sends the worst possible signal to all my fellow community members. Say that Bogle were the head of a used-car lot and that he became aware that there were people using his name who engaged in all sorts of low practices of deception and defamation and intimidation. Would he not act quickly to see that the nonsense stopped so that further damage was not done to his good name? Bogle has not acted. It’s worse than that. Lindauer has suggested that he has Bogle’s support. He has said that “higher-ups” at Vanguard read the board on a regular basis and know what goes on there. The unspoken suggestion is that since Lindauer has not yet been banned, there are some powerful people who are just fine with the tactics he employs to intimidate those posting in opposition to Buy-and-Hold strategies. These things get noticed by the members of a board posting community. Those with bigger names have greater responsibilities than those with smaller names. Bogle should have disassociated himself from the Lindauerheads a long, long time ago. Why hasn’t he?

5) Do site owners have responsibilities to honor the promises they use to attract good posters to their discussion boards? I was the most popular poster at the Motley Fool site on the morning of May 13, 2002. I had built the site’s Retire Early board into the most successful board in the site’s history. The co-founder of the site thought so highly of my work that he wrote one of the blurbs that appears on the back of my book Passion Saving. Motley Fool hired me to teach its online retirement planning course. Motley Fool charges for admission to its boards and runs advertising at its boards. So my work brought money to the owners of Motley Fool. Motley Fool promised in its published site rules to protect me from the sorts of individuals who employ death threats and defamation and long-running smear campaigns to silence posters who offer views at odds with their own. When John Greaney threatened to kill my wife and children to stop me from posting honestly on the SWR matter, Motley Fool’s response was not to ban Greaney but to ban me. Greaney cited the ban at scores of other sites as evidence that I should not be permitted to post.

This general pattern has been repeated at many boards and blogs (Get Rich Quick investing strategies are insanely popular for so long as prices remain high). I have not been able to build my internet writing business for ten years because Greaney and his Goon Squad follow me to every site at which I post and intimidate community members who post in support of me and site owners who permit me to post. What are the responsibilities of internet site owners who post published rules not permitting defamation and intimidation on their sites but who either permit it or even encourage it by posters promoting Get Rich Quick investing schemes?

6) Why have so few (if any!) identified the obvious true cause of the economic crisis? I have been writing about the true cause of the economic crisis since before it happened. Yes, before! All Valuation-Informed Indexers saw it coming. We have had four economic crises since 1870 and each and every one of them was preceded by a P/E10 level of 25 or greater. Runaway bull markets always cause economic crises. It’s not even a tiny bit hard to understand why. Stocks were overpriced by $12 trillion in 2000. Reversion to the Mean is an “Iron Law” of stock investing — John Bogle, hardly an individual biased against Buy-and-Hold, says this! So we knew in 2000 that sometime before the end of the first decade of the new Century, $12 trillion of spending power would be disappearing from our economy. When millions of consumers see their retirement dreams deferred, they become afraid to spend money on goods and services. Tens of thousands of businesses fail. Millions lose their jobs.

Is this not a public policy issue? Only the biggest of our time! And yet who is writing about it? Valuation-Informed Indexing shows us how to avoid future economic crises. No investor wants to invest ineffectively. If we could show investors how much higher the returns are for Valuation-Informed Indexers and how much lower the risks are for Valuation-Informed Indexers, all investors would lower their stock allocations when prices first showed signs of getting out of control. That would bring prices down! So they would never actually get out of control! Stock valuations are self-correcting in a world in which those who have studied the academic research are free to report on what they have learned without needing to fear that their reputations and careers will be destroyed by Buy-and-Hold dogmatics.

It turns out that University of Chicago Economics Professor Eugene Fama was not so wrong. It was Fama who argued that the market is efficient (that is, priced properly) because all investors look for imbalances and quickly exploit them when they identify them. What Fama missed was the Campaign of Terror. People who understand the research do not tell others what they know so long as the penalties for doing so are as severe as they have become during the Buy-and-Hold Era. But there is every reason to believe that, once we do something about the death threats and the defamation and the board bannings and the threats to get people fired from their jobs , all this will change. This is a money field. Permit people to make money offering sound investing advice and thousands of new businesses will be formed to take advantage of the opportunity. But those promoting alternatives to Buy-and-Hold cannot succeed so long as the Buy-and-Holders have a monopoly on the academic research. The data supports Valuation-Informed Indexing, not Buy-and-Hold, and we need to be able to have researchers like Wade Pfau use his talents to educate millions of investors as to the realities without feeling that he is putting his career at risk by doing so.

7) How do we avoid the Second Great Depression? From the standpoint of those who are familiar with the message of the past 30 years of academic research, the response of policymakers to the economic crisis has been frighteningly inappropriate. Why is it that every runaway bull market has caused a series of price crashes that eventually brought the P/E10 level down to 8 or lower (one-half of fair value)? There is no rational reason why prices should fall to one-half of fair value. Prices must fall to fair-value levels for the market to continue to function. That drop makes sense. But why do prices continue to fall until they hit levels of one-half of fair value?

This question is of critical importance. The P/E10 level today is 22. If we fall to 15 (fair value), we will all be taking a big hit. But if we stabilize at 15, we may make it out of this economic crisis without it becoming the Second Great Depression. A drop all the way down to 7 or 8 would be catastrophic. That would represent a price drop of two-thirds from today’s levels. And that price drop would hit with much greater force than the price drop we experienced in 2008. In 2008, most of us had some slack in our budgets. The hit we took to our retirement accounts hurt. But most of us found ways we could cut back on spending and at least maintain some hope that we will be able to retire at a reasonable age. There’s no slack in most family budgets today. A 65 percent hit today would wipe many of us out. It would be emotionally devastating. So policymakers need to focus on the question — How do we stop prices from continuing to fall not just to fair-value levels but all the way down to one-half of fair-value levels?

This is a silly question to those who believe in the Buy-and-Hold Model. The Buy-and-Hold Model posits that prices are determined by each day’s unexpected  economic and political developments (the effect of anticipated developments is priced in at the time the developments come to be anticipated). There’s obviously nothing we can do to affect what sorts of unexpected economic and political developments turn up in coming days. So Buy-and-Holders are not focused on avoiding a drop to price levels of one-half of fair value. And, indeed, no policymakers are talking about this question today.

It is essential that they begin talking about it. If we fall to price levels of one-half of fair value, we will enter the Second Great Depression. If we stabilize at fair-value prices, we can avoid the Second Great Depression. There is no more urgently important public policy question before us today.

Valuation-Informed Indexing posits that prices are determined primarily by investor emotions. So irrational price drops CAN be avoided. How? Be addressing the irrationality that would otherwise cause them to take place. We need to look at the investor psychology that causes prices to drop so low in the wake of huge bulls and change it. 

The reason why investors become so depressed about their futures in the wake of huge bulls is that the money they were expecting to be able to retire on was phony and seeing it disappear is a mighty discouraging experience. At the top of the bull, stocks were priced at three times fair value. Prices stopped falling at the end of all earlier bears only when they dropped to one-half of fair value. Going from 3x (where “x” is the fair value of one’s portfolio) to .5x means losing five-sixths of the accumulated wealth of a lifetime. Is it any wonder that most investors become depressed in the wake of runaway bulls?

We need to tell investors the truth about stock investing. Once investors come to understand that there is 30 years of academic research showing that the prices achieved at the top of runaway bulls are not real, they will come to understand that the prices achieved at the end of runaway bears are not real either. It is insane for us to let stock prices fall to levels representing one-half of fair value. Why would we want to price our retirement portfolios at LESS than their real value (pricing them at more than their fair value is not a good idea but at least it makes sense from a short-term-thinking standpoint — pricing portfolios at lower than their fair value is truly crazy even if it has been a reality of every runaway bear in U.S. history).

Warren Buffett and John Bogle and Eugene Fama were telling investors to remain heavily invested in the stock market in the wake of the 2008 crash. That was bad advice. It is the standard Buy-and-Hold line, of course. But it is the wrong thing for investors to do. No, you don’t want to sell when prices are low. But guess what? Prices were not low following the crash. For most of the time that Buffett and Bogle and Fama were giving that advice, stocks were priced well above fair value levels. Prices dropped in the crash from the insanely high levels that had applied for many years but only for a very brief time-period (a few months) did they drop low enough to justify claims that they were fairly priced (it made sense to buy during that brief time-period). Today stocks are priced very high. Investors who buy at these levels should not be expecting good long-term returns. It is irresponsible for leaders in this field to encourage investors to once again buy overpriced stocks and thereby set themselves up for yet another big upset to their retirement plans.

Investors need to know the score. When you buy stocks at good prices, you get good returns. When you buy stocks at poor prices, you get poor returns. We need to get the word out on that. When prices first drop below fair-value levels, it is going to be imperative that we persuade investors that stocks finally represent a good buy, If the experts have been telling them that stocks always represent a good buy and they have seen with their own eyes that this claim is nonsense, they are going to tune out the message that they should buy stocks once prices drop below fair-value levels. We need to get the message out about how stock investing really works before we are at serious risk of seeing the price drop that will put us into the Second Great Depression. Investors will be extremely distrustful once things get to that point and will tune out even messages truly rooted in the academic research.

If we end up in the Second Great Depression, it will be because we did not abandon the Buy-and-Hold dogmas that have now caused four economic crises. We had an excuse the three earlier times. We didn’t have academic research teaching us the realities on those earlier occasions. Now we do. We should make use of it. Policymakers should be doing everything in their power to prepare investors for the price drops still to come and to explain to them why a drop to fair-value price levels is necessary and good but a drop to levels far below fair-value price levels is neither necessary or good.

8) Why do financial journalists not point out inconsistencies in statements by experts in this field? Journalists hold politicians’ feet to the fire. That’s the job. Voters need to know whether politicians are shooting straight with them or not.

Unfortunately, this practice is rarely followed in the investing field. Journalists in this area too often play the role of stenographers and happily report the words of investing “experts” as if they were filled with insight when the reality is that the statements are full of holes or even self-contradictory.

I’ll give a few examples.

Bogle has said that not only does he not know anyone who has successfully timed the market, he does not know anyone who knows anyone who has successfully timed the market. Cute. But Bogle has said in interviews that he himself successfully timed the market in 2000. He saw that stocks were priced too high, he lowered his stock allocation dramatically as a result, and he profited handsomely by doing so. You can’t recommend long-term market timing at the Bogleheads Forum even though there’s 30 years of academic research showing that those who engage in long-term timing earn far higher returns while taking on dramatically reduced risks. Yet the guy whose name is used in the board title follows the practice. This does not make sense.

Bill Bernstein (The Four Pillars of Stock Investing) has said that he does not view the Old School safe-withdrawal-rate studies as analytically valid. “Of course they are analytically valid!” he said when asked the question. But Bernstein then added that anyone who would use one of the Old School SWR studies to plan a retirement would be well-advised to “FuhDedDaBouDit!” Huh? Isn’t that what the phrase “analytically invalid” means? That the study uses such a bogus methodology that it would be dangerous for investors to place any confidence in its conclusions? Isn’t it the job of investing experts to warn their readers and clients about such studies? Why pretend that dangerous studies are analytically valid all the same? It’s this Old Boy’s Club way of doing business that brought on the losses that caused the economic crisis.

9. How will damages for the ten-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School retirement studies be paid? It’s hard for me to figure out what the motivation is for The Stock-Selling Industry to continue its cover-up of the errors in the Old School studies. I believe that in the early days it was mostly pride. People in this field like to give the impression that they are on top of things and acknowledging mistakes undercuts that impression (i don’t think this is strictly so, I respect people who acknowledge mistakes, but I believe that many in this field see it as a bad thing to acknowledge mistakes). But I don’t see how there would have been much risk of lawsuits had the studies been corrected when the errors in them first became publicly known (May 2002). The mistakes were rooted in a perfectly understandable analytical error that was made by lots of good and smart people and stock prices had not fallen much from their highs at the time. So retirees who had made bad investment choices because of the incorrect numbers reported in the studies could have at least partially recovered from the damage done.

The situation is different today. Today we are looking at the possibility of millions of failed retirements. This will be one of the worst social crises we have ever faced as a nation. And there is a ten-year record of posts showing the extreme efforts (including death threats!) of the Buy-and-Holders to cover up the errors. Lawsuit city! It’s hard for me to imagine that enterprising lawyers are not going to start bringing lawsuits after the next price crash disabuses the investors who today are trying to maintain confidence that Buy-and-Hold can work from any such notions. It’s not hard to imagine that the total damages awarded could be in the hundreds of billions of dollars.

Can the Stock-Selling Industry handle liabilities of that size? The liabilities could be even larger if lawsuits are also brought because of industry efforts to block the spread of knowledge of Valuation-Informed Indexing. There the liabilities could be in the trillions. The industry almost certainly cannot handle liabilities of that size.

Are we going to see more bailouts? Will there be congressional hearings on how this all happened? What policies will be adopted to insure that nothing like this ever happens again?

These are important public policy questions.

10. How will we get the word out about the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept? Millions of workers today finance their retirements largely thought investments in the stock market. If those people cannot obtain access to accurate and realistic guidance because of an industry too ego-obssessed to acknowledge its mistakes and too greed-infested to resist the temptation to push Get Rich Quick strategies over research-supported ones and too power-mad to speak out against vicious intimidation tactics employed by the gooniest of the internet goons among us, we have not just an investing problem on our hands but a political problem. People who invest in the stock market to finance their retirements will lose confidence in our political system if they find out that good information on how to invest for the long term has been held back from them for three decades. And this is of course precisely what has happened.

We could all get depressed worrying about these negative possibilities.

You know what? The transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing is going to bring on the greatest period of economic growth we have ever seen. Buy-and-Hold was a huge advance over what came before it. Valuation-Informed Indexing is an even bigger advance. Ours is a dynamic society. The story of the ten-year Campaign of Terror against our board and blog communities is a story at odds with our most fundamental social norms. Working together, we are going to find a way around the obstacles this industry has placed in our path. The industry leaders will come around. They will help us spread the word about the new investing strategies far and wide, creatively and effectively.

The nasty stuff that held us back for so long will get blown away in the wind. It is the wonderful insights that we developed together (with important contributions made by Valuation-Informed Indexers and Buy-and-Holders alike) that will be around for decades. The story of how we will pick ourselves up from the damage done during the Buy-and-Hold years and move on to our most productive and enriching days of all is a political story too. It is the way we do things. We are a rich nation because we have mastered the art of creative destruction. We will bury Buy-and-Hold 30 feet in the ground, where it can no longer do harm to humans and other living things, because we must bury Buy-and-Hold 30 feet in the ground, where it can no longer do harm to humans and other living things. We will move confidently into the better future that awaits us.

Until the next time the humans mess up something awful!

 

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: financial fraud, Joe Paterno, Sandusky, scandal

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #13 — The Ten-Year Cover-Up of the Errors in the Old School Safe-Withdrawal-Rate Studies Is the Biggest Economic and Political Story of Our Time

July 31, 2012 by Rob

I have been trying for several years now to get political and financial bloggers interested in the story of how leaders in The Stock-Selling Industry have for ten years suppressed the story of the errors that were made in the Old School safe-withdrawal rate studies. I haven’t had a great deal of luck. For an odd reason. The story is too big!

It’s a reporter’s dream to get a big story. But not this big! When a story is TOO big, people have a hard time believing it. When a story is TOO big, reporting it changes the society in which the story is being reported in fundamental ways. So it takes a lot to get people interested in a story like that.

When a story like that finally breaks, though — Yikes! This is going to be a big, big. big story when it finally breaks. It is my belief that this is the biggest story of my lifetime (yes, bigger even than Watergate). There are 10 reasons.

1) The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Debate is a story that hits people in their pocketbooks. News junkies care intensely about politics. Ordinary people, not so much. Ordinary people care about things that affect their day-to-day lives. Everyone is looking for a smart, simple and safe way to invest in stocks. Valuation-Informed Indexing permits people to retire five to ten years sooner than they imagined was possible in the Buy-and-Hold Era. It permits them to obtain far higher returns from stocks while taking on greatly diminished risks. This is not boring, theoretical stuff. This is “News You Can Use” to the max!

2) That said, this story has huge political implications for conservatives. Conservatives love economic growth. One of the reasons why they vote down calls for greater government spending is that they believe that the private economy does a better job of creating wealth than do bureaucrats. The VII story is a story of a new stage of capitalism, a stage in which the decisions of thousands of entrepreneurs become more important and in which the decisions of central planners become less important. Why is it that free-market economies outperform command economies? The edge comes from the fact that, in command economies, resource-allocation decisions are made by “experts” rather than by the millions of people who make use of the goods and services being created by the economic system. Capitalism does a better job because the people affected by the goods and services being created call the shots as to which producers are rewarded for providing valuable goods and services and which are penalized for failing at the job. The promotion of Buy-and-Hold caused our economy to collapse because consumers lost influence over what goods and services were created. At the top of the bull market, stocks were priced at three times fair value and all investors came to believe that they had accumulated far more wealth than they had in fact accumulated. This misunderstanding caused them to reward a different set of companies than the companies they would have rewarded had they had access to realistic portfolio-statement numbers. Had the numbers on all portfolio statements been marked down by 65 percent during the bubble years, many companies providing luxury goods would have been put out of business and many companies providing well-priced goods and services that in a bubble environment failed would instead have thrived. The free market economy is the first victim of bull-market psychology. By making bull markets impossible, VII will make greatly expand the power of the free market to enrich all our lives.

3) This story also has huge implications for liberals. It’s not only conservatives who should be excited about the shift from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing. Liberals believe that those with power and wealth and the influence that goes with it should not be able to use that influence to obtain an edge over those who make important contributions by working hard for relatively small incomes. The promotion of Buy-and-Hold strategies greatly exacerbate unjust income and wealth disparities. Millions of middle-class investors have placed their trust in investing experts who have advised them to go with high stock allocations at times when stocks were selling at prices that insured they would receive poor long-term returns on their money. The super-wealthy have access to high-priced financial advice and financial advisors are more likely to report what we have learned from the academic research of the past 30 years in private sessions with their wealthy clients than they are in television or newspaper reports that would inflame Buy-and-Holders. The non-volatile markets facilitated by VII strategies provide an equal chance to investors of all income classes. The heavy promotion of Buy-and-Hold strategies exacerbates income inequalities.

4) The story has lots of the nasty stuff that I hate but that appeals to the base desire for sensationalism. The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Debate is a story about the biggest advance in our understanding of how stock investing works in U.S. history. It’s good stuff piled on top of good stuff piled on top of good stuff. The nasty stuff — the death threats, the defamation, the board bannings, the threats to get academic researchers fired from their jobs — will get blown away in the wind once the good stuff comes out. Still, it would be naive of me to claim that sensationalism has never helped a news story from gaining traction. That nasty stuff is there for those drawn to that sort of thing. I’d like to think that we will see some good come of it in the end.

5) There’s a huge economics story here too. Buy-and-Hold caused the economic crisis. Of all our findings, that is the single most important one. How many news stories have been devoted to some angle of the economic crisis? Tens of thousands of them. The most important thing we need to know is what caused the crisis and what we need to do to bring it to a quick end. Those who have been following The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Debate have known the answer to that one since before the crisis even began. In fact, Valuation-Informed Indexers knew the answer to that one since before the May 13, 2002, start to The Great Debate since Shiller predicted the economic crisis in his book Irrational Exuberance, published in March of 2000.

6) It’s better than that. There are TWO huge economic stories here. Conservatives favor Adam Smith Economics. Liberals favor Keynesianism. VII posits that there is some truth in both economic models and also some weaknesses in both models. Keynes was right that it takes a shock to the system to defeat the gloom that discourages consumers from spending once an economic crisis begins. He was wrong that a government stimulus can always provide that positive shock. Once deficits grow as large as they are today, deficit spending cannot do the trick because the increased deficit spending needed to finance the shocks generates enough new fears to counter any positive effect the spending might otherwise have achieved. But Keynes is right that we need some sort of shock to reestablish consumer confidence after an economic crisis has wiped out a big percentage of a society’s wealth. Valuation-Informed Indexing provides the needed positive shock in a way that does not add to the deficit. VII represents a huge advance in our understanding of how stock investing works that permits investors to retire five to ten years sooner than they earlier imagined possible. That should do the trick! Consumers are afraid to spend today because they have lost so much ground on their efforts to finance their retirement accounts. Once we permit them to learn the realities of stock investing that have been kept hidden from them during the Buy-and-Hold Era, consumer confidence should quickly be restored to the levels needed for an economic rebound.

7) This is a story of the dangers of placing too much confidence in elites. A theme that has popped up in a number of important news stories in recent years is the increasing power of elites and the dangers of placing too much confidence in them. This theme is core to the VII story. I have spoken to tens of thousands of middle-class investors about the dangers of Buy-and-Hold strategies. Many have told me that they find my investing ideas perfectly sensible but hesitate to take any steps not approved by the “experts.” This is a case where “expert” opinion has led millions astray. And it is fair to say that one of the reasons why so many experts got it wrong is that the experts stood to make so much money by endorsing Buy-and-Hold strategies that had never justified the level of confidence they were accorded by those who stood to make fortunes promoting them. The Buy-and-Hold story is a story of our society’s system of checks and balances breaking down. Where were the personal finance journalists to hold John Bogle’s feet to the fire when he spoke out of both sides of his mouth in so many of his speeches? Where were the policymakers to step in and insist that the Old School SWR studies be corrected once they were found to be in error? Where were the Peer Review Teams to approve quality research showing the holes in the Buy-and-Hold Model (Wade Pfau’s research showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing over Buy-and-Hold was rejected by two journals before finding a home at a journal he characterized as solid but as something less than one of the most influential journals in the field)? Where were the consumer watchdog groups to jump in and help Wade when The Buy-and-Hold Machine threatened to get him fired from his job if he continued to publish groundsbreaking research on Valuation-Informed Indexing and to push for corrections in the long-discredited Old School SWR studies?

8) The story has a compelling “Who Done It?” mystery element to it. Everybody loves a “Who Done It?” This story is a “Who Done It?” that would give Columbo a run for his money. There’s a temptation to lay the blame on the “experts” in The Stock-Selling Industry. They are the ones who got the numbers wrong in the Old School SWR studies, no? They are the ones who got the numbers wrong. But it is not fair to lay all the blame on the investing experts who pushed Buy-and-Hold. Look at what happened when I posted at Motley Fool about the errors in the studies. A significant percentage of the community that met there evidenced great excitement about the discussions that followed. But a larger and far more intense group demanded my head. It’s not just the stock-selling experts who are to blame. The stock-selling experts are telling us what we want to hear because that’s how you make a buck — All salesmen know that the key to success is getting the customer to like you. The Motley Fool site administrators did not ban me because I discovered the errors in the studies. They banned me because so many of their community members hated me for discovering the errors in the studies. This is a case in which to a large extent we done it to ourselves. That’s an Alfred Hitchcock twist if I ever heard of one!

9) There’s a big psychological dimension to the story. Our second most important finding (after the finding that Buy-and-Hold caused the economic crisis) was our finding that permitting honest posting on the academic research of the past 30 years would reduce the risk of stock investing by 80 percent. Even I find that one hard to believe, but that is indeed what the research shows. How is it possible? It’s possible because making reference to P/E 10 opens up an entire new world of investing insights. There have been two big risks to stock investing that have plagued investors for many years. One is that, when you pick individual stocks, you can pick wrong. That risk was made optional when John Bogle made index funds available to us all. The other risk is the risk that you will ignore valuations and thereby inevitably find yourself taking on dramatically more risk than you can handle. That risk ends once we permit honest posting re Shiller’s findings. Once it becomes possible to make a living promoting the Shiller model, there will be hundreds of businesses formed to help investors invest effectively and it will be impossible for Buy-and-Hold strategies ever again to gain a foothold. What’s really going on here is that we are learning how to control investor emotion through the use of the powerful P/E1o feedback mechanism. The behavioral finance people have been showing for decades how important it is for investors to become aware of their capacity for self-deception but until now there were no practical tools available by which we could do the job effectively. Now there are. That changes everything.

10) This is a story showing the power of the internet to change our lives for the better. None of this would have been possible without the internet. I have written a separate article exploring this aspect of the story in depth.

 

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