Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to the discussion thread for another blog entry at this site:
you wrote a long posting about how someone should ask shiller a question. well, gee, why don’t you just ask him? what’s stopping you?
I have written to Shiller.
There was one occasion when John Walter Russell and I were working on a calculator and John sent him an e-mail asking about him about how he developed his data-set. Shiller responded to that. There was at least one other occasion (I think there might have been two) in which I sent an e-mail to Shiller letting him know about the problems that I have experienced with you Goons. He did not respond to those.
That’s the problem. That’s why we are in the mess that we are in today. Shiller’s discovery that valuations affect long-term returns (that there is precisely zero chance that a Buy-and-Hold strategy could ever work for even a single long-term investor) was not the first breakthrough in the history of scientific investigations. But it is the only one that I know of that has been largely ignored for 38 years. In ordinary circumstances, you would expect that everyone on the planet would be rushing to ask Shiller questions about the implications of his findings. Every last one of us needs to know how stock investing works. But in this case it’s not only that not everyone is asking Shiller questions. Shiller actually goes out of his way to avoid discussing the implications of his research. There is not one word of practical how-to advice in his book. Huh? What the f?
Shiller leaves out the how-to stuff because that is the stuff that enrages the Buy-and-Holders. We should have enjoyed a national debate on this stuff shortly after he published his “revolutionary” (his word) research findings, in 1981. We didn’t see that. I think that what happened is that as a society we experienced cognitive dissonance. The change in going from an understanding that the market is efficient (that market timing does not work) to an understanding that valuations affect long-term returns (that long-term market timing is REQUIRED for those seeking to keep their risk profile roughly constant over time) was so big that we just couldn’t let it in. So we entered this strange Twilight Zone world where for the first time in history we knew intellectually how stock investing works but in which we did not permit ourselves to talk about what we knew so that for practical purposes most of us continued doing the OPPOSITE of what works (the Buy-and-Holders not only do not encourage long-term market timing, they discourage it — in fact, they engage in criminal acts to block millions of investors from learning how important it is to exercise price discipline when buying stocks).
As the length of the cover-up has grown, the Buy-and-Holders have become more and more nuts about making sure that it remains in place. Now we are in a situation where it is likely that a good number of Buy-and-Holders will be going to prison when the national debate is launched. People who are at risk of going to prison are highly motivated to block discussions of the peer-reviewed research. As you know.
Shiller would of course be 100 percent happy to share everything he knows and thinks about the far-reaching implications of his research. He published the research to help people. And he needs to answer people’s questions about it to help people to the fullest extent possible. But he needs to know that the discussions that follow will be conducted pursuant to the laws of the United States. He needs to know that there are not going to be any death threats or any demands for unjustified board bannings or any acts of defamation or any threats to get academic researchers fired from their jobs. He needs to know that as a society we have buried all this intimidation stuff ten-thousand miles in the bottom of the ocean. For obvious reasons. Anyone who has seen any of what has gone on at our boards and blogs over the past 17 years will have no difficulty understanding where Shiller is coming from re that one.
When we see an article on the front page of the New York Times talking about all of the financial fraud stuff that has been stopping the national debate from taking place for 17 years now, Shiller will feel comfortable speaking out on hundreds of critically important issues. When we see prison sentences announced for you Goons, Shiller will feel comfortable speaking out. When I receive my $500 million settlement check, Shiller will feel comfortable speaking out. When Wade Pfau is awarded a Nobel prize for the peer-reviewed research that he co-authored with me showing that “Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing works!”, Shiller will feel comfortable speaking out.
We need to speak out as a society letting all interested parties know that the coast is clear to launch the national debate. We want to have it. We know that we need to have it. We wouldn’t have reviewed Shiller’s book in all of the top publications if we didn’t want to have it. We wouldn’t have awarded Shiller a Nobel prize if we didn’t want to have it. We wouldn’t have seen thousands of our fellow community members express a desire that honest posting on the last 38 years of peer-reviewed research in this field be permitted at every discussion board and blog on the internet if we didn’t want to have it.
We want to have that national debate and we don’t want to have it at the same time. We want to have it because it would teach us so many important things about how stock investing works. And we don’t want to have it because we understand on some level of consciousness that we are going to learn when we have it that our portfolios are not worth what we were led to believe they were worth during the Buy-and-Hold Era. Our intellects tell us that we need to have the debate. Our Get Rich Quick urges tell us that having the debate would ruin everything. As of this moment in time, our Get Rich Quick urges are remaining dominant.
The question is whether that will continue to be the case after the next price crash. Once our portfolios are priced at their real value or at something less than that, what the heck good does Buy-and-Hold do anyone? At that point, we will be able to see with our own eyes that Buy-and-Hold doesn’t work. So why would we not be willing to have that national debate over the last 38 years of peer-reviewed research in this field? I believe that the debate will go forward at that time.
Shiller will be answering questions. And thousands of other good and smart people who have been intimidated out of coming forward during the Buy-and-Hold Era will be answering questions. It will be a blast. I wish that this had all gone forward on the afternoon of May 13, 2002. That was my vote. My vote doesn’t always win the day. Perhaps you’ve noticed.
Rob


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