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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
    Everybody Would Be Doing It."



    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "The Expected Return of Stocks [As Reported By The Stock-Return Predictor] Needs To Be At Least the Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) Rate for Stock Investing To Make Sense."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I Have Used Valuations to Adjust My Asset Allocation For Many Years With Very Favorable Results."





    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "I Don't Care If You Do or Don't Believe That the Market Will Behave Similarly in the Future As It Has in the Past. Either Way, This [The Stock-Return Predictor] Is an Excellent Way to Understand What the Market Has Done In the Past."


    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "My Role Is To Give People Who Don't Like What the Historical Stock-Return Data Says About the Effect of Valuations on Long-Term Returns Somebody To Yell At On Internet Discussion Boards."



    Rob Bennett at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "It Really Is a Shame and Indefensible That So Many Feel the Need to Jump Into It With No Interest of Posting on the Topic But Just to Disrupt. Are You That Insecure? Some on the Forum Have an Interest in This Topic. If You Don't, Stay Out!"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "Irrational Behavior Does Follow Patterns. But How Many Experts in Behavioral Finance Believe That Such Knowledge Can Be Used to Predict Markets? Basically, None. Your Model Cannot Attain the Level of Predictive Value You Claim."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "The Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Are Based on History. This [The Retirement Risk Evaluator] Shows, Based on the Same History, What the Probabilities Are for the Future at Various Starting Points. If the First Has Value, Then Surely This Does Too."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum

  • "There Are Hundreds of People Who Contributed to This. This Calculator [The Stock-Return Predictor] Demonstrates in a Compelling Way the Power of This New Internet Discussion-Board Communications Medium."




    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "A P/E10 of'26' Is Bad. Now Look at the 30-Year Return Predicted by the Calculator -- 5.4 Percent Real. That's Not Bad. There Are All Sorts of Strategic Implications That Follow From Understanding That Stocks Provide Different Sorts of Returns Over Different Sorts of Time-Periods."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Would Never Invest in Anything Without Having Any Idea What the Expected Return Is. For Instance, I Would Not Walk Into a Bank And Say "I'll Take One Certificate of Deposit, Please" WIthout Asking What Rate They Are Offering."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


    Rob Bennett

  • "The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Over. Rob Bennett Has Won.The Technical Evidence Supporting This Assertion Is Rock Solid."




    John Walter Russell,
    Owner of the Early Retirement Planning Insights Site
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on August 3, 2003.]

  • "I Am Afraid that the Emperor SWR [for "Safe Withdrawal Rate"] Has No Clothes."





    A Poster at the Early Retirement Forum
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on October 8, 2003.]

  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "Dear Rob -- I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September. Since Then, I've Read Archives From Many Discussion Boards and Websites, and I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "I Think Rob Bennett Did Provide An Important Contribution in Terms of Describing a Way for P/E10 to Guide Asset Allocation for Long-Term Conservative Investors. I Also Think He Was Right on the Issue of Safe Withdrawal Rates."


    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum After His Own Search of the Literature Turned Up Not a Single Such Study

  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Your Work Is at Odds with the Ethos of the Board -- Here the Theme is John Bogle's Philosophy, Which Eschews Market Timing. This Board Came Into Existence to ESCAPE One Individual, the Very Individual With Whom You Have Openly Aligned Yourself."




    A Lindaurhead (to Researcher Wade Pfau)

  • "The Problem With Long-Term Market Timing Is That It Takes Too Long to Find Out If You Are Right or Wrong."






    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Why Is It Such an Odious Violation of the Tenets of Bogleheadism to Explore Whether Someone Who Has Enough Patience Might Be Able to Benefit from the Transitory Nature of Speculative Returns (the Idea That the P/E Ratio Eventually Ends Up Where It Started)?"




    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Let Me Explain Why I Posted About This Here. Valuation-Informed Indexing Has Had Critics for Years. But Until Norbert Did It In 2008, Nobody Seemed to Have Provided a Serious Investigation of It. I Couldn't Understand Why. That Bothered Me."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "If You Really Don't Like Market Timing in Any and All Forms, You May Not See Any Point in an Empirical Investigation. You View Me as One of a Long Line of Hucksters Trying to Sell You Some Snake Oil. I Don't Want to Be Such a Person."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, in an E-Mail to Rob

  • "I Definitely Need to Cite You as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, As I Have Not Found Anyone Else Who Can Lay Claim to That. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation, As Far As I Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "I Tested a Wide Variety of Assumptions About Asset Allocation, Valuation-Based Decision Rules, Whether the Period Is 10, 20, 30 or 40 Years, and Lump-Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging To Show That the Results Are Quite Robust to Changes In Any of These Assumptions."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!"




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau
    (Wade Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton.)
    (The Buy-and-Hold Mafia Threatened to Get Wade Fired From His Job When He Reported His Findings.)

  • "I Wrote Up the Programs to Test Your Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Against Buy-and-Hold and I Am Quite Excited. You Say in the RobCast That VII Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time. I Am Getting Results That Support This."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Never Underestimate the Power of a Dominant Academic Idea to Choke Off Competing Ideas, and Never Underestimate the Unwillingness of Academics to Change Their Views in the Face of Evidence. They Have Decades of Their Research and Academic Standing to Defend."




    Jeremy Grantham

  • "There's So Much That's False and Nutty
    in Modern Investing Practice."






    Warren Buffett

  • "Following Conventional Wisdom Has Led a Generation of Investors Down the Road to Ruin."






    Steve Hanke

  • "It Is Sad That the Idea That Price Doesn't Matter...Should Ever Have Been Seriously Considered".






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "The Conventional Wisdom of Modern Investing Is Largely Myth and Urban Legend."





    Rob Arnott, Former Editor of
    Fianncial Analysts Journal

  • "Economics Is a Dog's Breakfast of Theoretical Ideas and Alleged Causal Relationships That Are At All Times Unproven and In Dispute."





    Terence Corcoran, Editor of National Post

  • "Since They Did Not Diagnose the Disease, There Is Little Popular Confidence That They Know the Cure. What If Economics Is, Actually, At the Same Level as Medicine Was When Doctors Still Believed in the Application of Leeches?"




    Gideon Rachman, Financial Times

  • "One of the Most Remarkable Errors
    in the History of Economics."



    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller
    (Referring to the Logical Leap from the Finding That Short-Term Price Changes Are Unpredictable to the Conclusion That the Market Sets Prices Properly)

  • "Everything Has Fallen Apart."






    Peter Bernstein, Author of Against the Gods
    (Referring to Old Views About How Markets Work)

  • "We Wonder Why Funds and Banks, Full of the Best and Brightest, Have Made Such a Mess of Things. Part of the Reason Is That We Have Taught Economic Nonsense to Two Generations of Students."




    John Mauldin, Thoughts From the Frontline

  • "Perhaps Most Scandalously, the Theory [Behind Buy-and-Hold] Remained Received Wisdom Long After Empirical and Theoretical Arguments Had Demolished It Within the Academic Community."




    John Authers, Financial Times

  • "I Love the Humans Dearly (the Title of the Book I Am Writing Is Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life) But They Can Be a Trial at Times. Hey! Helping the Humans Learn What It Takes to Invest Effectively Is Not All That Different From Being Married!



    Rob Bennett

  • "We Are Going to See Hearts Melt Following the Next Crash. I Will Be Working Side-By-Side With All of My Many Buy-and-Hold Friends to Rebuild Our Broken Economy."





    Rob Bennett

  • "Wow, I Did Not Realize You Had Achieved This Much Success and Had Many Devoted Believers/Followers. That’s Great, Then Ignore the Opposition. It Is Great to Have Opposition: That Means You Are Doing Something Right."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Do NOT Believe I Know It All. I Believe That Shiller Discovered Something Very Important and It Appalls Me That More People Are Not Exploring the Implications of His Findings. My Aim Is To Launch a National Debate."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Can See How Many Readers Would Be Put Off by the Somewhat Sensational/Scandalist Tone and Would Not Persevere to Read, Thinking You Are Losing Your Mind."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I LOVE Everything About Buy-and-Hold Other Than the Failure to Encourage Investors to Take Price Into Consideration When Setting Their Stock Allocations. That's a Mistake That Was Made Because Shiller’s Research Was Not Available at the Time The Strategy Was Being Developed."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up In My Classrooms and in My Students' Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade)."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Can Confirm Wade Pfau's Experience. Whenever I Send My Papers to the Financial Analysts Journal or Similar Traditional Journals, I Get Rejected."





    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "As a Fan of Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, I Know That Progress Can Be Frustratingly Slow and What Is Typically Needed Is Either a Crisis or the Ascent of a New Generation of Scientists Who Did Not Build Their Careers on the Old Models and Theories."




    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "We Trace the Deeper Roots [of the Financial Crisis] to the Economics' Profession's Insistence on Constructing Models That, By Design, Disregard the Key Elements Driving Outcomes in Real World Markets."




    Knowledge@Wharton

  • "Rob Gets Himself So Worked Up Over What Someone Else Is Doing With Their Own Money and Not Bothering Rob in the Least. As Long As They Aren't Knocking on Your Basement Door, What Do You Care? They Are Happy and Content. Leave Well Enough Alone and Focus on Your Own Account."


    Dab, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Been on Forum Since the BBS Days and I Think Rob is Special. He Could Be an Internet Meme If He Put Some Effort Into It. Someday, He Will Realize That the Only Thing He's Good At Is Being an Epic Loser. He Just Needs to Embrace That Idea and Run With It. Watch Out, LOLCats, Here Comes Pathetic Guy!"


    Wabmaster, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "Your Lies Are Not Even in the Realm of the Possible, Much Less Actually Credible, Much Less Actually True."






    Drip Guy, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I'm Your Friend. I Am Not a Boil on Your Ass."






    Rob Bennett, In a Response Comment
    to One of the Greaney Goons

  • "You Guys [the Greaney Goons] Are the Same Jokers Who Have Done This Before, Sparring with Rob Over Nonsensical Issues On This Site and Others, Leveling Personal Attacks, and You Don't Even Use Real Names! Rob Is Entitled to His Opinion, But the Fact That You Challenge Every Jot and Tittle of What He Says Makes It Clear You Have An Unholy Agenda. Please Take It Elsehwere."

    Kevin Mercadante,
    Owner of the Out of Your Rut Site

  • "Rob, Take This As Friendly Advice. You're a Smart and Articulate Guy and You Could Be Making Valuable Contributions to This Discussion. I've Dealt with the Mentally Ill Before and I've Found That They Sometimes Can Be Reasonable If Gently Redirected."



    Goon Poster

  • "Always Remember Others May Hate You, But Those Who Hate You Don't Win Unless You Hate Them, and Then You Destroy Yourself."





    Richard Nixon

  • "I’m a Numbers Guy. And I Believe I Understand Rob’s Thesis, that Future Returns, Over the Next Decade, Have a Tight Inverse Correlation to the PE10 for the Starting Point. Remember, Correlation Doesn’t Need to be 100%, Only That There’s a Bell Curve of Potential Outcomes that Shift Meaningfully Based on the Input."


    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "What a Difference a Threat to Get the Father of Two Small Children Fired From His Job Has on an Investing Discussion, Eh? Long Live Buy-and-Hold! It’s Science! With a Marketing Twist!"




    Rob, Referring to the Wade Pfau Matter

  • "I Respect Rob and His Analysis. He's Bright, Energetic and Passionate. [The Goon Stuff] Is Really Nonsense. I Enjoy a Thought-Provoking Conversation With People I Respect."





    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "The Fact that Shiller is a Proponent of the Approach Takes it from a Fringe View to Mainstream, in my Opinion."






    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "I Have had Academic Researchers Tell Me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to do Honest Research Once Again. I Have had Investment Advisors Tell me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to Give Honest Investing Advice Again."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Let’s Call a Spade a Spade, Shall We? Wade Pfau Stole Your Research and Put His Name on it, Throwing You Just a Tiny Crumb of Acknowledgement to Ward Off a Lawsuit. He’s Profiting Handsomely By His Theft, Leading a Charmed Life, Widely Published, Widely Respected. While Rob Bennett Continues to Toil in Total Obscurity. It’s So Incredibly Unfair, I Think If It Happened to Me, It Could Actually Drive Me Insane."

    One of the Greaney Goons

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We Don’t Know Enough to Know What We Don’t Know

June 5, 2008 by Rob

We don’t.

We don’t know the meanings of the words. This one kills me. When people offer you investing advice, the odds are good that they don’t know the meanings of the most basic terms at issue.

If a baseball manager didn’t know what a bunt was or what a squeeze play was or what the infield fly rule was, you would fire him. I’ll bet 50 cents that whoever it is you turn to most often for investing advice doesn’t possess a strong grasp of the meaning of most basic investing concepts. I can say that because just about no one does today. Our understanding of how investing works is not yet sufficiently advanced for us to have reached agreement on even the most fundamental points.

Risk is fundamental, right? If you don’t understand risk, you don’t understand investing. Still, the reality is that there is not yet a general consensus on what risk is.

Lots of people say that risk is volatility. Stocks are risky because prices go up and down a lot. Buffett laughs at that idea. He points out that, if risk is volatility, then a stock that goes up in price is more risky than one that remains always at the same price. He’s got a point. But the others just keep insisting that volatility is risk, as if they knew what they were talking about and as if they had not heard what Buffett said. That’s reassuring — not!

What else?

The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate (SWR) Debate is the product of a failure of investing “experts” to distinguish between the concepts of “surviving” and “safe.” Say that you drove drunk two times and got in horrible accidents, but lived. You would not conclude that driving drunk is a safe thing to do. That’s what the Old School SWR studies do. They look for what withdrawal rate barely survived for the two times in history when we got to the price levels that apply today and declare that withdrawal rate “100 percent safe.” Um, that makes sense. If the authors of the studies understood the difference between these two simple concepts, they wouldn’t do that. And they probably do understand the difference when talking about other subjects. When it comes to investing, though, they “forget” the meaning of the words and offer highly dangerous retirement advice.

What else?

Greaney has a study that says that a 74 percent stock allocation is always “optimal.” John Walter Russell checked the historical data and found that that allocation is indeed optimal except for just about all of the other possibilities that can be imagined by the rational human mind. People don’t use the word “optimal” in the investing realm to mean the same thing that it means when used in any other context any more than they use the word “safe” to mean the same thing that it means when used in any other context.

What else?

Investing experts do not know what the word “indexing” means. There are big battles going on about it. Rob Arnott came up with something called “Fundamental Indexing” and John Bogle is saying that it is only Bogle’s idea of indexing that is really indexing and that no other understandings of the term are permitted. As Church Lady has been known to observe from time to time, how convenient!

What else?

People use the phrase “Passive Investing” to refer to indexing all the time. Are they the same thing? It sure doesn’t seem so to me. I love indexing (owning tiny interests in a large number of stocks so that you enjoy great diversification at low cost). Love it, love it, love it. I hate Passive Investing (sticking with the same stock allocation despite wild price swings). Hate it, hate it, hate it. If they are the same thing, how can one guy love one and hate the other? I’m thinking that it just might be possible to index without investing passively, you know?

What else?

Long-term. We’re all investing for the long-term today. So we need to know what it means. But we do not.

The promise that investing in stocks will always work out well in the long term works only for those willing to hold for 30 years. Few of the investors who say that they are investing for the long-term know that. Many think that the long-term is 5 years or 10 years. Guess what happens when those people learn that the results they were expecting to see in the “long-term” ain’t gonna show up when they were expected to show up?

What else?

Buy-and-hold. We don’t know what it means.

Buy-and-hold is effortless during a huge bull, like the one that ended in 2000. We’re now in the huge bear that inevitably follows a huge bull (during a bull, we borrow huge amounts from the returns of future investors to push current-day returns far above those justified by the economic realities). Ball-and-hold is now a very difficult thing, especially for those who were led to believe that it was always easy. The reality is that no one knows what is required to be a buy-and-hold investor yet because the strategy has never yet been tested in a bear market.

What else?

We don’t know what a high valuation level is. Most “experts” use P/E1 to tell us whether stocks are overvalued or not. P/E1 gives many false reads. Those who know what they are talking about use P/E10 or perhaps Tobin’s Q or some other legitimate valuation assessment tool. The majority of people who call themselves “experts” don’t know that they are using a tool that does not work. So they do not really know what valuation level applies at any given time or what its significance is (you cannot make meaningful comparisons of how stocks perform from various valuation levels if your valuation assessment tool is gravely flawed).

It’s not my intent here to put people down. My intent is to let people off the hook. If the experts would stop pretending that they know things they do not know, investors would know to check things out more carefully for themselves. People got proud and careless during the huge bull. Giving investing advice that “worked” during the huge bull was not too difficult a task. Most of us are not up to the job in this new environment.

We need to go back to school. We need to learn the basics. We need to be more cautious in how we state things. We need to learn how to say “I don’t know” and “I was wrong.”

Most of all, we need to develop the intellectual curiosity needed to begin an effort to nail down some of the most basic concepts.

Today’s Passion: The article entitled Investing Basics that Even the Pros Don’t Understand notes that the return you will obtain on your stock investment can be known in advance. Why don’t the big boys they tell us these things?

Filed Under: Investing Basics Tagged With: Investing Basics, investing experts

Scott Burns Complains About Low IBond Returns
That He Himself Helped Bring About

June 2, 2008 by Rob

Scott Burns is not pleased with the zero return being paid by IBonds.

Juicy Excerpt: By having a premium of zero over inflation, the Treasury is sending a simple message to savers: Drop dead.

Scott needs to spend some time studying The Stock-Return Predictor.

IBonds obviously are not offering as good a deal today as they were back when investor emotions re stocks were more out-of-control than they are today. In relative terms, though, they are still offering a strong value proposition.

The most-likely annualized 10-year return on stocks is 1.55 percent real. That’s for an asset class that on the three earlier occasions it was at these price levels suffered an average price drop of 67 percent. Is increasing your return by 1.55 percent per year worth taking a risk of a 67 percent loss? Not in this boy’s estimation, at least not for a large portion of one’s portfolio.

You also need to consider that stocks provide a most-likely annualized 10-year return of 6.3 percent real if prices drop to fair-value levels. So those holding zero-return IBonds are setting themselves up for far higher returns a bit down the road while those holding stocks are setting themselves up for permanenet losses, losses that will grow over the years as the compounding returns effect kicks in.

It certainly can be argued that a zero percent return for IBonds is “irrational.” But so is a 1.55 percent return for stocks. The root problem is that the investors choosing between these asset classes have been making irrational choices ever since stocks went to wildly overpriced valuation levels.

Investors’ emotional take on stocks dominates decision-making in InvestoWorld. When the stock market is priced as absurdly as it is today, other asset classes feel the effect. Today’s IBond return is nuts. But, compared to today’s likely stock return, it’s great. Smart investors are looking at the relative value proposition and their demand for IBonds has brought the return down to a level that appears absurd when considered in isolation but that makes a good bit of sense when viewed in comparison to the return now available from stocks.

If the “experts” gave us the straight story re how valuations affect long-term stock returns, most investors would have abandoned stocks when the long-term return went negative back at the top of the bubble. That would have brought the price down to reasonable levels and we would as a result be enjoying good long-term returns on stocks today. In the world in which we actually live, we have to figure out the truth about stocks for ourselves in this crazy way in which we see prices go down a bit and then hold stable or go up a bit, and then eventually go down a bit more. All that the “experts” accomplish by ignoring the message of the historical data is to stretch out a painful process of price adjustment.

Investors do not have the same confidence in stocks today that they had back at the top of the bubble. That’s a good thing. That’s a step in the right direction. That’s one of the reasons why the return on IBonds is so low. Investors have been gradually moving from stocks to safer asset classes offering a better long-term deal, and the increased demand for those asset classes brings down the return they need to offer to attract money to them. Zero-return IBonds are not entirely irrational; there’s an element of rationality mixed in with the overall irrationality that governs all investing decisions for so long as stock prices remain where they are today.

I certainly would not describe today’s IBond return as exciting. The informed investor was loading up on IBonds back when they were paying a return of over 3 percent real and stocks were offering an even worse deal than they are today. However, IBonds are still a good bit more attractive than stocks.

That’s irrational, and I would like to see that situation change; stocks are the riskier asset class and stocks are the asset class that should be offering the better value proposition for investors willing to take on reasonable amounts of risk. To get to where we all want to be, we all need to get about the business of accepting that the absurdly oversized returns handed out to stock investors of the late 1990s were borrowed from the returns available for stock investors of today and that it is only by acknowledging that reality that we can get to a place where stocks will once again offer a superior long-term value proposition to even zero-return IBonds.

It is the irrationality of Passive Investing enthusiasts (I think it would be fair to describe Scott Burns as such a one) that is causing the problem. When Scott Burns is looking around for people to blame for the unfortunate message being delivered to savers today (zero-return IBonds do indeed send a discouraging message) he should look first at the face of the man in the bathroom mirror.

Today’s Passion: The article entitled IBonds are New and Improved Cash argues that cash is not only for sissies anymore.

Filed Under: Scott Burns & VII Tagged With: certificates of deposit, IBonds, investing experts, Scott Burns, TIPS

Unmentionables

October 3, 2006 by Rob

Scott Burns puts forward tantalizing hints but doesn’t dare to tell the full story.

William Bernstein took a chance by stating it pretty darn clearly one time and is not inclined to take a bigger one by stating it pretty darn clearly a second time.

John Bogle says enough to permit those who want to know the realities figure them out for themselves, but holds back enough to permit those who do not to remain in the temporary comfort of the darkness.

Jonathan Clements knows enough to see that there is a big story out there, but elects to spend his time pursuing less controversial topics.

I mentioned in yesterday’s blog entry that: “We don’t want it shoved in our faces just how bad things have gotten, just how irresponsible we have been in bidding up stock prices to such absurd levels in recent years.”

It’s a big story that as of yet has not been widely reported. I don’t mean the fact that stocks are overvalued. That’s been written about some. I mean how upset it makes people to think about it, and how much anger some experience when they hear it discussed in a clear and direct and understandable and undeniable way.

The conventional thinking on stocks is that stock investing is primarily a rational endeavor. I challenge anyone to devote 15 minutes to reading the transcript of The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Debate and to continue to maintain afterwards that stock investing is primarily a rational endeavor. The debate transcript shows that stock investing is primarily an emotional endeavor. I mean, come on.

What are we going to do about it?

I propose that we learn more about it.

Learning that stock investing is primarily an emotional endeavor changes everything. It compels a different starting point for the analysis of every possible investing question. Change all of the starting points, and you change all of the end points.

It would not be overstating things all that much to say that everything we thought we knew five years ago about investing has turned out to be at least a little bit wrong. We’ve got some challenging work ahead of us. Some exciting opportunities to make the world a better place now appear before us too.

Burns, Bernstein, Bogle and Clements are four of the best. Each of them has played a role in the development of the insights we have generated during The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Debate. Thanks, guys!

Each of them has pulled back from exploring in depth those insights on his own. Way to drop the ball, guys!

I have hopes that we are not going to drop the ball. I have hopes that we are going to hold onto the ball for a run all the way into the end zone.

If it were easy to tell the full truth about stock investing, Burns, Bernstein. Bogle and Clements would have already done it. It’s not easy. We’re going to do it anyway. That’s why we set up this community in the first place, is it not? That’s the job we have taken on, is it not?

The first step is to figure out why Burns, Bernstein, Bogle and Clements have shied away from the task. What are they afraid is going to happen if they tell it straight, with no chaser?

My sense is that they are afraid that telling the stock investing story straight and full and true would make make their readers angry at them. It’s one thing to talk about how stocks work. It’s a very different thing to talk about how people work, especially when part of the story that needs to be told relates to how people sometimes mess up.

People got us to the P/E10 level that we are at today. Isn’t it just like those darn humans to do something like that? Look into a problem deeply enough, and it always seems to turn out that it’s the humans who are at the center of the mess-up!

The humans messed up in a big way. That’s the big Unmentionable in the field of investing analysis today. The human factors are the Unmentionables because it’s humans who buy the newspapers and attend the speeches and subscribe to the newsletters and all that sort of thing.

We all want our fellow humans to like us, and, if we start telling them that they messed up, they might not. So many of the best investing analysts have elected not to say too much about it and to be less than clear and direct in what little they do say.

We need to be charitable. We need to be balanced. We need to be diplomatic. We need to tell the story, though. We need to mention the Unmentionables. It’s an important part of the investing story. The story as a whole does not make sense unless this aspect of it is addressed in some depth.

You might want to click on your seat-belt. It promises to be a rocky ride. We’re going to be doing some truth-telling around this place in the days and weeks and months and years to come.

Our mission, if we elect to accept it (and we have so elected) is — To tell the part of the stock investing story that Burns and Bernstein and Bogle and Clements have never quite possessed the courage to tell.

Wish me — I mean us! — luck!

Filed Under: SWRs Tagged With: investing experts, Investor Psychology, SWRs

Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?

August 10, 2006 by Rob

What do you know? How do you know it?

You need to know certain things to get from the place where you are when you pull yourself out of your bed in the morning to the place where you are will be when you throw yourself back into it at night. For example, you need to know about gravity. If not for gravity, you would need to dress differently. You might need to wear heavy boots to keep from floating off into space. Gravity matters. Since you know that gravity exists, you keep this reality in mind as you make all of the various life decisions put before you during the course of another day spent journeying through this Valley of Tears.

You do know that gravity exists, right?

No. The truth is, you really don’t.

Have you ever explored the gravity question in depth? Have you ever checked out the claims that teachers and friends and experts have made about gravity? You haven’t. You have taken them on faith.

That’s what humans do. There are thousands of things we need to do to keep body and soul joined. We couldn’t possibly check out each and every little detail of each and every little claim that we elect to take on faith for the purpose of freeing up some time to devote to the things in our lives that we care about most.

I think you made the right choice re the gravity thing. I personally am confident that there really is such a force and that it really does work at least largely as lots of people tell us it does. The conventional understanding of how gravity works is cool.

The conventional understanding of how stocks work is not cool.

Taking things on faith makes sense. It save us an awful lot of time to just assume that, when lots of people say the same thing, they must all be right or at least close enough to being right that we don’t need to worry about it much. There are times, though, when taking things on faith can get you in a whole bunch of trouble. One of those times is when you are deciding how to invest your money.

Here are some words from a community member named “Janey”:

“What Rob said sounds reasonable enough, so I wouldn’t be able to judge his advice without additional input. I must rely on the fact that I don’t hear the authors I trust saying the same thing. The authors I trust seem to agree that returns may be lower in the years to come, but none of them suggest that we should drastically reduce our stock allocations in light of this information….I don’t have time to join the search for ‘the Grail of Investing.’ Besides, I have other priorities in life. So, I have to rely on the judgment of people who make the most sense.”

Janey is telling it straight. She is acknowledging that she is not able to identify any reasons why the Valuation-Informed Indexing approach to investing is not superior to the conventional indexing approach. It sounds fishy to her, though. There are lots of smart and well-informed and well-respected people who say things that are at odds with what I say. So she can’t help but conclude that there is probably something wrong with what I am saying. Given the practical reality that she cannot afford to spend years of her life researching my claims and the counters to my claims advanced by my critics, she has decided to place her confidence in what a lot of smart and well-informed and well-respected people have told her.

Janey believes in gravity. Is that so wrong?

I think it makes a lot of sense. I think Janey is a smart cookie and a nice person too (I am going by what I have read in a few posts she has put forward at the Vanguard Diehards board). I think she is making a mistake to place her confidence in the smart and well-informed and well-respected people in whom she has elected to place her confidence. But I understand why she has done so and I am grateful to her for sharing with us a look into the thought-process by which she made a decision to do so.

Janey makes investing decisions in the way that most smart and nice people make investment decisions. We humans are not computers with legs. We are social animals. We often decide what we think by asking others what they think.

The dominant investing paradigm assumes that we are computers with legs. The dominant investing paradigm says that the stock market is efficient because prices are set by millions of investors acting rationally in their self-interest.

In reality, prices are set by people. People make their investing decisions not rationally (reason comes into it, of course, but reason is not the dominant influence on our investing choices), but by talking with other people. Each time that another human becomes convinced that stocks are “good,” two things happen: (1) stocks become a little less “good” (because that human’s purchases cause the price of stocks to go up and the long-term return obtained by those who purchase stocks in future days to go down); and (2) those who retain doubts about how good stocks are become less sure of themselves as the result of hearing from yet one more fellow human how good they are. In time, just about all the humans that can be reached by telephone or e-mail or radio broadcasts own stocks and prices have been driven so high that we are in one of those rare time-periods when stocks are not so “good.”

Janey has been misled by the smart and well-informed and well-respected people in whom she has placed her trust. Not because they are bad or dumb or uncaring people (athough human failings do indeed play a role in making transparently silly ideas popular for a time). Because they are just as human as Janey is. Being smart and well-informed and well-respected doesnt make you any better at understanding how stocks work than all of your fellow humans who are a bit less smart and a bit less well-informed and a bit less well-respected than you. Janey would be better off listening to her common sense than listening to the people she has come to view as investing experts.

You cannot learn about stocks in the way that you learn about gravity. Why? Because the very fact that so many people have come to like stocks so much is what makes them unappealing. It is because so few question the value proposition of stocks today that stocks have today become such a dubious investment choice for the middle-class investor.

Filed Under: Investor Psychology Tagged With: investing experts, Investor Psychology

My Response to Jonathan Clements’ E-Mail on FIRECalc

May 24, 2006 by Rob

My blog entry for May 23, 2006, set forth the text of an e-mail sent to me by Wall Street Journal Columnist Jonathan Clements. In the e-mail, Clements defended Bill Sholar’s FIRECalc retirement planning tool from my criticisms of it, while acknowledging that FIRECalc “may not be the last word in safe withdrawal rates.” Set forth below is my response to Clements’ e-mail:

Jonathan:

Thanks for your response.

I agree that the conventional methodology studies have served to lower expectations and that that is a good thing. Bernstein described the Trinity study (the grandfather of conventional methodology studies) as “breakthrough research.” I agree with that assessment.

The fact that there has been one breakthrough in the safe withdrawal rate field does not rule out further breakthroughs. I hope you will take at least a quick look at Russell’s site. He has done some amazing work.

If it would help you to look at summaries of major findings, please let me know the sorts of questions in which you have the greatest interest. I can’t do the statistical work that Russell does. But I am writing a book on his findings. So I very familiar with his work and its implications.
You hint at one of the most important findings with your reference to TIPS. Given the valuations that apply to stocks today, a strategy of shifting a good bit of one’s portfolio to TIPS until such time as valuations return to moderate levels is highly appealing, given what the historical data says about the long-term returns likely to be provided by stocks from today’s valuation levels.

Please let me know if it is okay with you to quote your response to my e-mail in my blog. The question of the analytical validity of FIRECalc is a matter of considerable controversy at the Financial Freedom Community boards. So I set forth the text of my e-mail to you in my blog entry for today. I would like to set forth the text of your response as well (in part in fairness to Sholar and his supporters since to some extent you are defending the FIRECalc tool from my criticisms of it), but I of course will not do so unless you give me permission to do so.

Russell and I are in the process of constructing a calculator that uses the historical stock-return data to generate “predictions” of the range of stock returns we will likely see over 10-year, 20-year and 30-year time-periods and to assign rough probabilities to various points on the spectrum of possibilities. I have hopes that the calculator will be up at my site within three or four weeks. I will send you an e-mail letting you know when it is available. It is the work we did together on safe withdrawal rates that led to our study of the effect of valuations on long-term stock returns, which is of course an issue of even more far-reaching import.

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Jonathan Clements on Safe Withdrawal Rates

May 23, 2006 by Rob

My blog entry for May 22, 2006, set forth the text of an e-mail that I wrote to Wall Street Journal Columnist Jonathan Clements urging him not to put forward further endorsements of Bill Sholar’s dangerous FIRECalc retirement planning tool. Set forth below is the response that I received from Clements (he has given me permission to post his response here):

Rob:

Thanks for the email.

Given its length, my short reply will hardly do it justice. But I think there are a few points worth considering:

1) Firecalc may not be the last word on safe withdrawal rates, but it does what it states — it tells you how your strategy would have fared historically;

2) Surveys suggest that most retirees have a wildly inflated idea of what a safe withdrawal rate is, so Firecalc is a good reality check, even if it isn’t as much of a reality check as you would like;

3) With 10-year TIPS yielding 2.4%, the safe withdrawal rate must be higher than that, assuming a willingness to eat into principal.

Best,

Jonathan

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My E-Mail to Wall Street Journal
Columnist Jonathan Clements

May 22, 2006 by Rob

I sent an e-mail this morning to Wall Street Journal Columnist Jonathan Clements urging him not to include further endorsements of Bill Sholar’s dangerous FIRECalc retirement calculator in his “Getting Going” investment column. Here is the text:

Mr. Clements:

My name is Rob Bennett. I am the founder of the Financial Freedom Community (a group of internet discussion boards) and the owner of the www.PassionSaving.com web site, where I report on findings of the research that we have been doing in our community for over six years now.

You included a link to the FIRECalc retirement calculator in your Wall Street Journal column of May 21, 2006, entitled “Make Sure Your Money Lasts as Long as You.” There have been extensive discussions of the FIRECalc calculator in our community over the past four years. We have determined beyond any reasonable doubt that the methodology used in FIRECalc is analytically invalid for purposes of determining safe withdrawal rates. I urge you not to give further publicity to this dangerous retirement planning tool unless the flaws in it are corrected by its creator, Bill Sholar. (I of course have made Sholar aware of the flaws).

The problem is that FIRECalc does not make adjustments to the safe withdrawal rate to reflect the effect of changes in valuation levels. The historical stock-return data shows that the valuation level that applies on the starting date of a retirement is the single most important factor determining what withdrawal rate is safe.

For retirements beginning in January 2000, FIRECalc reports a safe withdrawal rate (for a high S&P portfolio) of 4 percent. Analytically valid studies put the number at 1.6 percent. For a retiree with a $1 million portfolio, that’s the difference between living on annual spending of $40,000 for the last 30 years of his life and living on annual spending of $16,000 for the last 30 years of his life. That’s not a rounding error. That’s a deadly serious mistake.

Valuations are not as high today and so the safe withdrawal rate for a high S&P portfolio is today higher. But it is still nowhere even remotely in the neighborhood reported in FIRECalc. The SWR for a high S&P portfolio today is about 2.5 percent. The odds of an 80 percent S&P/20 percent commercial paper portfolio for which a 4 percent withdrawal applies surviving 30 years are at today’s valuations about 50-50.

Placing one’s entire life savings down on a coin flip is not a safe thing to do. It is an extremely risky thing to do. The words “safe” and “risky” are not synonyms; they are antonyms. FIRECalc is not science. It is science fiction.

William Bernstein, author of The Four Pillars of Investing, has confirmed the analytical flaws of FIRECalc. He has said that any investor giving thought to using a conventional-methodology safe withdrawal rate study (FIRECalc uses the conventional methodology) to plan a retirement would be well-advised to “FuhGeddaBoudit!” Bernstein calculated the safe withdrawal rate for a high S&P portfolio near the top of the bubble to be about 2 percent. That is in accord with what other analytically valid studies have shown. The four years of research done in the Financial Freedom Community backs up Bernstein all down the line.

I have had extensive communication with Dallas Morning News Columnist Scott Burns on the flaws of FIRECalc and a similar study (the conventional-methodology study published by John Greaney at his RetireEarlyHomePage.com site). Burns has told me that he agrees with the conclusions reached by the Financial Freedom Community in its investigations of the flaws of these two retirement planning tools. Burns has won for himself a reputation as an expert on the topic of safe withdrawal rates as the result of a column he wrote some years ago correcting an error Peter Lynch made in overstating the safe withdrawal rate for stocks.

Burns published a column on June 3, 2005, saying: “The established safe-withdrawal-rate rules of thumb are based on long periods of time in which yields were higher than today and stock valuations were lower. A growing school of thought believes future withdrawal rates should be reduced to reflect lower expected future returns. This would knock another 1.5 to 2 percentage points off the safe withdrawal rate.” Burns added that the reason why there has been only a smattering of reports in the general press about these critically important findings is that “it is information most people don’t want to hear.”

Greaney is a highly abusive poster in a number of discussion-board communities in which he participates. He has threatened physical violence on any poster who posts honestly on what the historical stock-return data says regarding safe withdrawal rates. Sholar is not himself abusive, but he permits Greaney defenders to have the run of the board that he owns (the Early Retirement Forum). At one time, Sholar permitted honest discussions of the safe withdrawal rate topic. But after Greaney defenders threatened to burn his site to the ground if he continued to do so, Sholar imposed a ban on honest posting. The ban remains in effect today.

The fact that Sholar has banned honest posting at his board shows that he knows from our community discussions that there is no possible reasoned defense that can be put forward in support of his safe withdrawal rate claims. In the event that stocks perform in the future somewhat as they always have in the past, these demonstrably false claims are likely to cause hundreds of thousands of busted retirements. You should not be putting the good name of the Wall Street Journal behind an endorsement of such an individual or behind an endorsement of safe withdrawal rate claims likely to cause such devastating life setbacks to so many middle-class investors.

I think you would be doing a great service to your readers to report in your column on the safe withdrawal rate findings of the Financial Freedom Community. Much of our best research has been published by John Walter Russell at the www.Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com site.

In contrast to Sholar and Greaney, Russell exemplifies the best of the new internet communications medium. He is a retired government engineer who became interested in safe withdrawal rates as the result of our community discussions and has now devoted four years of full-time work to studying in depth what the historical data really says. Giving some publicity to Russell’s findings could well save millions of middle-class retirements from going bust in days to come.

Please let me know if you have any questions about any of the points put forward in this e-mail. Please also know that the fine work you do in your column is appreciated by many, many middle-class workers trying to make sense of the question of how to invest successfully for the long run.

Rob

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