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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
    Everybody Would Be Doing It."



    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "The Expected Return of Stocks [As Reported By The Stock-Return Predictor] Needs To Be At Least the Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) Rate for Stock Investing To Make Sense."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I Have Used Valuations to Adjust My Asset Allocation For Many Years With Very Favorable Results."





    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "I Don't Care If You Do or Don't Believe That the Market Will Behave Similarly in the Future As It Has in the Past. Either Way, This [The Stock-Return Predictor] Is an Excellent Way to Understand What the Market Has Done In the Past."


    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "My Role Is To Give People Who Don't Like What the Historical Stock-Return Data Says About the Effect of Valuations on Long-Term Returns Somebody To Yell At On Internet Discussion Boards."



    Rob Bennett at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "It Really Is a Shame and Indefensible That So Many Feel the Need to Jump Into It With No Interest of Posting on the Topic But Just to Disrupt. Are You That Insecure? Some on the Forum Have an Interest in This Topic. If You Don't, Stay Out!"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "Irrational Behavior Does Follow Patterns. But How Many Experts in Behavioral Finance Believe That Such Knowledge Can Be Used to Predict Markets? Basically, None. Your Model Cannot Attain the Level of Predictive Value You Claim."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "The Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Are Based on History. This [The Retirement Risk Evaluator] Shows, Based on the Same History, What the Probabilities Are for the Future at Various Starting Points. If the First Has Value, Then Surely This Does Too."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum

  • "There Are Hundreds of People Who Contributed to This. This Calculator [The Stock-Return Predictor] Demonstrates in a Compelling Way the Power of This New Internet Discussion-Board Communications Medium."




    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "A P/E10 of'26' Is Bad. Now Look at the 30-Year Return Predicted by the Calculator -- 5.4 Percent Real. That's Not Bad. There Are All Sorts of Strategic Implications That Follow From Understanding That Stocks Provide Different Sorts of Returns Over Different Sorts of Time-Periods."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Would Never Invest in Anything Without Having Any Idea What the Expected Return Is. For Instance, I Would Not Walk Into a Bank And Say "I'll Take One Certificate of Deposit, Please" WIthout Asking What Rate They Are Offering."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


    Rob Bennett

  • "The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Over. Rob Bennett Has Won.The Technical Evidence Supporting This Assertion Is Rock Solid."




    John Walter Russell,
    Owner of the Early Retirement Planning Insights Site
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on August 3, 2003.]

  • "I Am Afraid that the Emperor SWR [for "Safe Withdrawal Rate"] Has No Clothes."





    A Poster at the Early Retirement Forum
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on October 8, 2003.]

  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "Dear Rob -- I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September. Since Then, I've Read Archives From Many Discussion Boards and Websites, and I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "I Think Rob Bennett Did Provide An Important Contribution in Terms of Describing a Way for P/E10 to Guide Asset Allocation for Long-Term Conservative Investors. I Also Think He Was Right on the Issue of Safe Withdrawal Rates."


    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum After His Own Search of the Literature Turned Up Not a Single Such Study

  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Your Work Is at Odds with the Ethos of the Board -- Here the Theme is John Bogle's Philosophy, Which Eschews Market Timing. This Board Came Into Existence to ESCAPE One Individual, the Very Individual With Whom You Have Openly Aligned Yourself."




    A Lindaurhead (to Researcher Wade Pfau)

  • "The Problem With Long-Term Market Timing Is That It Takes Too Long to Find Out If You Are Right or Wrong."






    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Why Is It Such an Odious Violation of the Tenets of Bogleheadism to Explore Whether Someone Who Has Enough Patience Might Be Able to Benefit from the Transitory Nature of Speculative Returns (the Idea That the P/E Ratio Eventually Ends Up Where It Started)?"




    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Let Me Explain Why I Posted About This Here. Valuation-Informed Indexing Has Had Critics for Years. But Until Norbert Did It In 2008, Nobody Seemed to Have Provided a Serious Investigation of It. I Couldn't Understand Why. That Bothered Me."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "If You Really Don't Like Market Timing in Any and All Forms, You May Not See Any Point in an Empirical Investigation. You View Me as One of a Long Line of Hucksters Trying to Sell You Some Snake Oil. I Don't Want to Be Such a Person."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, in an E-Mail to Rob

  • "I Definitely Need to Cite You as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, As I Have Not Found Anyone Else Who Can Lay Claim to That. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation, As Far As I Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "I Tested a Wide Variety of Assumptions About Asset Allocation, Valuation-Based Decision Rules, Whether the Period Is 10, 20, 30 or 40 Years, and Lump-Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging To Show That the Results Are Quite Robust to Changes In Any of These Assumptions."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!"




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau
    (Wade Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton.)
    (The Buy-and-Hold Mafia Threatened to Get Wade Fired From His Job When He Reported His Findings.)

  • "I Wrote Up the Programs to Test Your Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Against Buy-and-Hold and I Am Quite Excited. You Say in the RobCast That VII Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time. I Am Getting Results That Support This."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Never Underestimate the Power of a Dominant Academic Idea to Choke Off Competing Ideas, and Never Underestimate the Unwillingness of Academics to Change Their Views in the Face of Evidence. They Have Decades of Their Research and Academic Standing to Defend."




    Jeremy Grantham

  • "There's So Much That's False and Nutty
    in Modern Investing Practice."






    Warren Buffett

  • "Following Conventional Wisdom Has Led a Generation of Investors Down the Road to Ruin."






    Steve Hanke

  • "It Is Sad That the Idea That Price Doesn't Matter...Should Ever Have Been Seriously Considered".






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "The Conventional Wisdom of Modern Investing Is Largely Myth and Urban Legend."





    Rob Arnott, Former Editor of
    Fianncial Analysts Journal

  • "Economics Is a Dog's Breakfast of Theoretical Ideas and Alleged Causal Relationships That Are At All Times Unproven and In Dispute."





    Terence Corcoran, Editor of National Post

  • "Since They Did Not Diagnose the Disease, There Is Little Popular Confidence That They Know the Cure. What If Economics Is, Actually, At the Same Level as Medicine Was When Doctors Still Believed in the Application of Leeches?"




    Gideon Rachman, Financial Times

  • "One of the Most Remarkable Errors
    in the History of Economics."



    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller
    (Referring to the Logical Leap from the Finding That Short-Term Price Changes Are Unpredictable to the Conclusion That the Market Sets Prices Properly)

  • "Everything Has Fallen Apart."






    Peter Bernstein, Author of Against the Gods
    (Referring to Old Views About How Markets Work)

  • "We Wonder Why Funds and Banks, Full of the Best and Brightest, Have Made Such a Mess of Things. Part of the Reason Is That We Have Taught Economic Nonsense to Two Generations of Students."




    John Mauldin, Thoughts From the Frontline

  • "Perhaps Most Scandalously, the Theory [Behind Buy-and-Hold] Remained Received Wisdom Long After Empirical and Theoretical Arguments Had Demolished It Within the Academic Community."




    John Authers, Financial Times

  • "I Love the Humans Dearly (the Title of the Book I Am Writing Is Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life) But They Can Be a Trial at Times. Hey! Helping the Humans Learn What It Takes to Invest Effectively Is Not All That Different From Being Married!



    Rob Bennett

  • "We Are Going to See Hearts Melt Following the Next Crash. I Will Be Working Side-By-Side With All of My Many Buy-and-Hold Friends to Rebuild Our Broken Economy."





    Rob Bennett

  • "Wow, I Did Not Realize You Had Achieved This Much Success and Had Many Devoted Believers/Followers. That’s Great, Then Ignore the Opposition. It Is Great to Have Opposition: That Means You Are Doing Something Right."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Do NOT Believe I Know It All. I Believe That Shiller Discovered Something Very Important and It Appalls Me That More People Are Not Exploring the Implications of His Findings. My Aim Is To Launch a National Debate."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Can See How Many Readers Would Be Put Off by the Somewhat Sensational/Scandalist Tone and Would Not Persevere to Read, Thinking You Are Losing Your Mind."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I LOVE Everything About Buy-and-Hold Other Than the Failure to Encourage Investors to Take Price Into Consideration When Setting Their Stock Allocations. That's a Mistake That Was Made Because Shiller’s Research Was Not Available at the Time The Strategy Was Being Developed."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up In My Classrooms and in My Students' Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade)."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Can Confirm Wade Pfau's Experience. Whenever I Send My Papers to the Financial Analysts Journal or Similar Traditional Journals, I Get Rejected."





    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "As a Fan of Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, I Know That Progress Can Be Frustratingly Slow and What Is Typically Needed Is Either a Crisis or the Ascent of a New Generation of Scientists Who Did Not Build Their Careers on the Old Models and Theories."




    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "We Trace the Deeper Roots [of the Financial Crisis] to the Economics' Profession's Insistence on Constructing Models That, By Design, Disregard the Key Elements Driving Outcomes in Real World Markets."




    Knowledge@Wharton

  • "Rob Gets Himself So Worked Up Over What Someone Else Is Doing With Their Own Money and Not Bothering Rob in the Least. As Long As They Aren't Knocking on Your Basement Door, What Do You Care? They Are Happy and Content. Leave Well Enough Alone and Focus on Your Own Account."


    Dab, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Been on Forum Since the BBS Days and I Think Rob is Special. He Could Be an Internet Meme If He Put Some Effort Into It. Someday, He Will Realize That the Only Thing He's Good At Is Being an Epic Loser. He Just Needs to Embrace That Idea and Run With It. Watch Out, LOLCats, Here Comes Pathetic Guy!"


    Wabmaster, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "Your Lies Are Not Even in the Realm of the Possible, Much Less Actually Credible, Much Less Actually True."






    Drip Guy, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I'm Your Friend. I Am Not a Boil on Your Ass."






    Rob Bennett, In a Response Comment
    to One of the Greaney Goons

  • "You Guys [the Greaney Goons] Are the Same Jokers Who Have Done This Before, Sparring with Rob Over Nonsensical Issues On This Site and Others, Leveling Personal Attacks, and You Don't Even Use Real Names! Rob Is Entitled to His Opinion, But the Fact That You Challenge Every Jot and Tittle of What He Says Makes It Clear You Have An Unholy Agenda. Please Take It Elsehwere."

    Kevin Mercadante,
    Owner of the Out of Your Rut Site

  • "Rob, Take This As Friendly Advice. You're a Smart and Articulate Guy and You Could Be Making Valuable Contributions to This Discussion. I've Dealt with the Mentally Ill Before and I've Found That They Sometimes Can Be Reasonable If Gently Redirected."



    Goon Poster

  • "Always Remember Others May Hate You, But Those Who Hate You Don't Win Unless You Hate Them, and Then You Destroy Yourself."





    Richard Nixon

  • "I’m a Numbers Guy. And I Believe I Understand Rob’s Thesis, that Future Returns, Over the Next Decade, Have a Tight Inverse Correlation to the PE10 for the Starting Point. Remember, Correlation Doesn’t Need to be 100%, Only That There’s a Bell Curve of Potential Outcomes that Shift Meaningfully Based on the Input."


    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "What a Difference a Threat to Get the Father of Two Small Children Fired From His Job Has on an Investing Discussion, Eh? Long Live Buy-and-Hold! It’s Science! With a Marketing Twist!"




    Rob, Referring to the Wade Pfau Matter

  • "I Respect Rob and His Analysis. He's Bright, Energetic and Passionate. [The Goon Stuff] Is Really Nonsense. I Enjoy a Thought-Provoking Conversation With People I Respect."





    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "The Fact that Shiller is a Proponent of the Approach Takes it from a Fringe View to Mainstream, in my Opinion."






    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "I Have had Academic Researchers Tell Me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to do Honest Research Once Again. I Have had Investment Advisors Tell me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to Give Honest Investing Advice Again."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Let’s Call a Spade a Spade, Shall We? Wade Pfau Stole Your Research and Put His Name on it, Throwing You Just a Tiny Crumb of Acknowledgement to Ward Off a Lawsuit. He’s Profiting Handsomely By His Theft, Leading a Charmed Life, Widely Published, Widely Respected. While Rob Bennett Continues to Toil in Total Obscurity. It’s So Incredibly Unfair, I Think If It Happened to Me, It Could Actually Drive Me Insane."

    One of the Greaney Goons

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Law Professor Brad Borden: “This [My Article on The Silencing of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau by the Buy-and-Hold Mafia] Is Interesting. I’m Curious, However, to Know Why You Chose to Contact Me.”

March 1, 2013 by Rob

I have been sending e-mails to numerous people telling them about my article on The Silencing of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau by the Buy-and-Hold Mafia. Set forth below is the text of a response that I received from Law Professor Brad Borden, followed by my reply to Brad:

Hi, Rob:

This is interesting. I’m curious, however, to know why you chose to contact me.

Thanks,

Brad

 

Brad:

Thanks for your response.

There is no particular reason why I contacted you in particular.

The entire story is very strange. I have been working on this for 10 years. I have had mixed reactions to the work I have done.

Those who “get it” (a small number in percentage terms) view this as the most important advance ever achieved in the investing field. There are numerous smart and good people who see the implications as being very positive and very far-reaching. Those reactions naturally make it impossible for me to give this up. I want this work to be recognized and to help people live better lives.

Those who do NOT get it (a high percentage of the population, perhaps 90 percent, and a group that also includes many very smart and very good people) see only limited value here or (in not a small number of  cases) react with hostility.

The high percentage of indifferent and (especially) hostile reactions has made it impossible for me to spread the word effectively. For example, I built a very large Retire Early discussion-board community at the Motley Fool site. The board was destroyed by arguments over the merits of these ideas. A small group thought these ideas generated the best discussions ever held at the board. A large group preferred to see the entire board destroyed rather than to permit the discussions to continue.

The short version of all this is — These ideas generate intensely emotional reactions. To spread the ideas, I need to find a way to work around this problem.

My current effort is to contact all sorts of people by e-mail and to answer any questions they have and to try to gain support that way. Since it is only one person taking in  the  idea, there is none of the negative group dynamic that has poisoned discussions so many times in the past. If the people who I win over are as intense in their enthusiasm as some of those I have won over in the past, even a small number of supporters might make a huge difference.

I am not focusing on one type of person because I have not found any one type of person that is particularly open to hearing about the ideas. Some investing experts love this stuff and some hate it. Some journalists love this stuff and some hate it. Some economists love this stuff and some hate it.

I fully understand that my explanation sounds odd. This entire matter is very odd. I have never seen anything remotely like it. If the ideas are sound (there is a mountain of evidence that they are, at least in my assessment), it is imperative that I spread the word before more damage is done to our economy through the promotion of the discredited conventional investing ideas. But the normal ways of building support for personal finance ideas (getting experts on board, writing articles, going to blogs, etc.) just do not work for this particular concept. I am trying something different just to see whether the effort bears good fruit or not.

You don’t possess any particular characteristics that make you a good person to contact other than that you obviously possess a strong intellect and are involved in at least a tangential way with some matters that relate in some way to public policy. If you end up feeling that you learned something, I will of course be 100 percent happy. If you  prefer that I not contact you again, I am of course okay with that. If you ask questions, I will do what I can to respond effectively. If somewhere down the line you become a supporter, I will be thrilled about anything you can do to move the ball forward. I of course understand that that’s an extreme long-shot. My belief is that I only need a  small number of those extreme long-shot bets to come through to make a big positive difference. And I think that in time I will see a small number of these “bets” come through for me.

Sorry for the long explanation. I feel that you merit as clear an answer as I am able to provide. Please don’t feel any obligation at all to do anything further. The vast majority of those I contact do not respond in any way. You have already made me feel good by saying “this is interesting.” If by any chance you feel a desire to explore any aspect of this in greater depth, certainly feel free to shoot me back a follow-up e-mail with more questions or concerns or reactions or whatever.

And thanks for giving me an opportunity to work that all out on paper!

Rob

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investing research, investing theory

Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning at Life Planning Partners, Inc.: “Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do.”

February 18, 2013 by Rob

I’ve been sending e-mails to various people letting them know of the efforts by the Buy-and-Hold Mafia to silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau after he published research showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies over Buy-and-Hold strategies. Set forth below are reports on five responses I received.

1) Nancy Rapoport, a Professor of Law at Boyd School of Law, said: “Thanks so much for reaching out to me.”

2) Golaka C. Nath, a Researcher for the Clearing House Corporation of India, wrote: “Thanks. I will surely look at the article.”

3) David Zetland, who teaches a class on Environmental Economics and Policy at the University of California at Berkeley, told me: “I agree that ‘advisers’ are not very helpful but discussing these issues is not within my expertise/vocation.” David included a link to an article. I wrote back: “I understand re the expertise matter. However, given the message of the article you linked to, I think an argument might be advanced that those put forward as the ‘experts” in this field may in reality not be much more ‘expert’ than you or I. Ssssh! Please don’t tell anyone I said that! I may have gone ‘controversial again! Please take good care.” David shot back a one-word reply: “Agreed.”

4) Carolyn McClanahan, the Director of Financial Planning at Life Planning Partners, Inc., told me in a tweet that: “Valuation-Informed Indexing is the same song we sing. Glad you belong to the same choir we do.” I tweeted back to Carolyn that: “I saw that Michael Kitces followed you. Michael knows all the best people in this field!”

5) Edward Tower, an Economics Professor at Duke, and a Bogleheads Forum participant, said: “Rob, Thanks. Ive had a quick look. I wish that Robert Shiller had bond rates of return on his web site, not just long-term bond yields, so one could use his data to test this hypothesis.” I wrote back: “Thanks for your response. There sure are lots of angles. It would definitely be a good thing if more effort were directed to exploring all of them.”

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investing research, Wall Street corruption

“It Is Natural That Powerful People Will Do What They Can to Protect Their Interest. It Is the Norm in the Academic World and In the Broader World. I Am Grateful That You Write About It.”

February 12, 2013 by Rob

I have been sending e-mails to various people letting them know of how the Buy-and-Hold Mafia silenced Academic Researcher Wade Pfau after he published research showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies over Buy-and-Hold strategies. Set forth below are reports on five of the responses I received.

1) Alessandro Acquisti, Associate Professor at Carnegie Mellon University, said: “Thanks for the link.”

2) Jay Desai, Assistant Professor at Shri Chimanbhai Patel Institute of Management and Research, said: “I have gone through your article. I also believe that no market in the world is efficient as explained by the Fama-French Model.”

3) Jing Chen,an Assistant Professor at the University of Northern British Columbia who has done important research that attempts to integrate physics, biology, economics, information science and other fields and to provide an entirely new foundation for economic theory, said: “Thanks for your message and your article.  It is natural that powerful people will do what they can to protect their interest. It is the norm in the academic world and in the broader world. I am grateful that you write about it.”

4) Joe Fuller, a co-founder of Monitor Group, a multinational consulting firm, said: “I’m afraid this literature is not anything I’m remotely expert in, so I’m afraid I’m not comfortable taking a position.”

5) Steve Jewson, a Vice President for Model Development at Risk Management Systems, said: “I like it. It makes sense to me.”

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investing research, Wade Pfau, Wall Street corruption

“Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds”

February 6, 2013 by Rob

I have been sending out numerous e-mails to let people know about my article on the silencing of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, the researcher who published the breakthrough paper showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies over Buy-and-Hold strategies. Set forth below are reports on five of the responses I have received.

1) Walter Block, an Economics Professor at Loyola University, suggested that I contact the Institute for Justice and suggested that I check out a number of books relating to Austrian Economics. I thanked Walter for his kind response and told him that his love for the subject of Austrian Economics came through in his e-mail and inspired me to want to learn more about it.

2) Ted Sichelman, a Law Professor at the University of San Diego, said: “Thanks for the e-mail and interesting article. Unfortunately, many academics can become quite strident when their views are challenged, which is why I was counseled not to tread on treacherous ground prior to getting tenure. Like most other fields, academia is often subject to self-serving bias that obliterates ethical bounds. As it may be, best of luck in your worthy endeavors.”

I told Ted that I agree with the point that he was making but that, in fairness, I do not believe that it is only academics that caused the problem. ” Journalists should be asking harder questions and with more persistence and follow-up. Policymakers should be trying to overcome their ideological biases and looking for more creative and more balanced solutions to our problems. Investors should be more skeptical of claims they hear from those who have a financial interest in slanting things in a certain direction.” In short, I argued that “it’s those darn humans who are messing things up again!”

I further wrote:
>
“I’m only half joking. The academics really did drop the ball on this one. But it is also the academics who will be helping us to get to the next stage once it hits them what they need to do. We ALL see through a glass darkly. The academics are good people, as are the journalists, the policymakers (yes, even them! — I used to work on Capitol Hill and I got to know some personally) and the investors. We all get made fools of by our biases from time to time.
>
“I was no doubt affected by my biases myself in what I wrote in that article. The trouble is that I cannot see my own biases as clearly as I can see the biases of those darn academics and those darn other journalists and those darn policymakers and those darn investors.
>
“Thanks much for your real and true response. I have lots of blather directed at me in the work I do. I need to hear some real stuff from time to time to remain sane. You have added a nice measure of cheer to my Friday morning with the sincerity of your kind wishes.”

3) Ashta Arvind, a Law Professor at the Burgundy School of Law and a Holder of the Microfinance Chair, said: ” I’m very happy in microfinance research because at the end of it, whether microfinance does good or not, everyone is trying to improve things for others and although there is hectic debate about ideas, this kind of problem does not exist.” He observed that ideas are hard to market when they are unknown because most influential people are busy. However, one publication can lead to another and then to another. “I often give the example of one paper which got refused more than ten times before it finally got published a few years down the line.” He suggested several journals in which he has confidence. I thanked him for his kind and practical suggestions.

4) Dirk Matten, a Professor of Strategy at the Schulich School of Business, said: “Rob — Thanks for contacting me. Interesting story. In some ways, though, I don’t understand too much about this case. So I don’t feel I can add much. Good luck with this!” I thanked Dick for taking a look and especially for his kind wishes.

5) Branko Milanovic, Lead Economist in the Development Research Group at the World Bank, said: “Thank you very much for your e-mail. I read briefly your note but unfortunately I cannot judge how accurate or valid your hypothesis is simply because it is an area that I do not know. Thank for for sending it.” I thanked Branko for taking a look.

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investing research, Investor Psychology

“I’ve Essentially Promoted Valuation-Informed Indexing in My Work Over the Years, Although I’ve Never Called It That.”

December 18, 2012 by Rob

I’ve been sending e-mails to various people letting them know about the threats used by Buy-and-Holders to intimidate Academic Researcher Wade Pfau into not publishing further research showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies over Buy-and-Hold strategies. I report below on some of the responses I have received.

1) Dave Landry of www.DaveLandry.com: “Thanks for the article. I think you’re preaching to the choir. A lot of my work centers around the fact that Buy-and-Hold does not work. Keep up the good fight!”

2) Tom Brakke, CFA: I appreciate you tracking me down and sending me those links. I’ll take a look at them. I’ve essentially promoted Valuation-Informed Indexing in my work over the years, although I’ve never called it that. You can see it thematically in an early blog post of mine, from that fateful Fall of 2008 — The Famous Nine Percent.

3) Bob Krumm at www.BobKrumm.com said:” It’s not something I know a lot about, but interesting nonetheless.”

4) Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors, said: “That was a good read. Keep it going.”

5) Catherine McCauliff, a law professor at Seton Hall, said: “I’m afraid I don’t know anyone in my life who plans to retire early. If you meet such a one, send him my way so he can send me some of his extra dollars! Best of luck in rounding up the dreamers.” I responded: “Will do! Thanks for your response, Catherine.”

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investing research

“How Could Someone Who Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton Come to Believe That There are Zero Peer-Reviewed Studies Showing that Long-Term Timing Is Not Required for Long-Term Investing Success?”

December 14, 2012 by Rob

Set forth below are the texts of two comments that I recently put to the Goon Central board:
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Reality bites, don’t it hocus!?
 
Reality bites in both directions, Yip.

Wade said those things. You have quoted him accurately.

He also advanced the 45 quotes that I reported on in the article linked to above.

He still believes those 45 things. Even if he didn’t,  the fact that he once believed those 45 things would be news with major public policy significance. He held a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton when he said those things. He is in a position to know the truth of these matters. And yet he believed that there has never been a single study showing that long-term timing doesn’t work or isn’t required for long-term success. A Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton researched this question and that is what he discovered. Even if he changed his mind at a later date (he hasn’t), that would be big news. It would raise the question — How could this be? How could someone who holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton come to believe that there are zero peer-reviewed studies on the record showing that long-term timing does not work or is not required for long-term success?

We all need to know the answer to that one, Yip. Buy-and-Holders and Valuation-Informed Indexers alike. And we will not ever come to know the answer until we give ourselves permission to discuss the question. It is through discussion that we learn. So we MUST permit (and encourage!) civil and reasoned discussion of these matters. There is no other path from the horrible place where we all are today to the wonderful place where deep down in our hearts each and every one of us wants to be tomorrow.

If I win, we all win.

If you win, we all lose.

It doesn’t take me too long to figure out who to root for re this one, my old friend.

Rob

This game can be played the other way around.I promote myself as the most severe critic of Buy-and-Hold alive on Planet Earth today.Yet on the morning of May 13, 2002, if you had asked me what investing strategy I follow, I would have said “Buy-and-Hold” and I would have said it proudly.What gives? Am I the genius who discovered the horrible flaw in the Buy-and-Hold strategy? Or am I the dunderhead who at a time in his life when he held a Masters in Tax Law from George Washington University and had rose to the level of Director at the Ernst & Young consulting firm and who had written the #1 best-selling report in the history of the Soapbox.com site and who had transformed himself into a sufficiently effective saver to be able to start from zero and yet in 10 years save what he needed for his family of four to live off his savings for many, many years to come still believed in this oh-so-horrible and oh-so-obviously-flawed Buy-and-Hold strategy?
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I am that genius, Yip. And I am that dunderhead. I possess two, two, two characteristics of the Human in one! We are all human. We all have the potential of genius within us. And we all have the potential of dunderheadedness within us.

John Bogle is one of the darn humans. So is Robert Shiller. So is Wade Pfau. So is Bill Bernsteinzz. So is John Greaney. So is Rob Bennett. So is Rob Arnott. So is Albert Sanchez Graells. So is Scott Burnszzz. So is Mel Linduaer. So is Microlepsis. So is John D. Craig. So is Ed Easterling. So is Larry Swedroe. So is J.D. Roth. So is Mike Piper. And on and on and on and on and on.

We are stuck together on this planet, Yip. We all possess access to some pieces of the puzzle and have been denied access to other pieces of the puzzle. We have a system in this country that permits us to share with each other the pieces that we each hold in our hands so that the collective entity we call “the United States of America” can come to possess as many of the pieces as possible and we can all thrive together. We need to play it that way in the investing area just as we do in all the other areas. Our decision to play it very, very differently in the investing area is in the process of killing us.

We need to figure out why Wade Pfau believed the things he did when he was being a dunderhead (regardless of whether you think it is Wade 1.0 who is the dunderhead or Wade 2.0 who is the dunderhead). And we need to figure out why Rob Bennett believed the things he believed when he was being a dunderhead (regardless of whether you think it was the pre-May 13, 2002, version of Rob who was the dunderhead or the post-May 13, 2002, version of Rob who is the dunderhead). And we need to figure out whether Old Saint Jack is being a dunderhead when he says things in his speeches that support what Rob believes or when he says things in his speeches that support what Mel believes.

We’re all dunderheads here, Yip. Each and every one of us.

And we are all geniuses too. So we are all entitled to the respect and affection and gratitude of all the other dunderheads when we venture to put forward our genius posts on the discussion boards and blogs that we have built together for that purpose.

I am telling you the way it is going to be, my old friend. I am not asking, I am telling. There is a difference. Please try very hard to understand. It is critical that you understand that I am telling and not asking so that you will know how to proceed after reading these words.

My best wishes to you and yours.

Rob


Filed Under: Bennett/Pfau Research Tagged With: investing research, Wade Pfau

Former Financial Analysts Journal Editor Rob Arnott to Rob Bennett: “I’m Too Embroiled in My Own Controversies to Magnify Them Further With Collaboration. Your Ideas [About Valuation-Informed Indexing] Are Sound.”

December 13, 2012 by Rob

My last two blog entries reported on e-mail correspondence between Former Financial Analysts Journal Editor Rob Arnott and I in which we discussed the brutal (my word) intimidation tactics that have been employed by Buy-and-Holders in recent years to block the publication of academic research revealing the deficiencies of the “status quo” (Arnott’s phrase) thinking on how the stock market works. He reported that he has had difficulty finding journals to publish his more controversial work and that articles of his that challenged the conventional thinking of today have generated hate mail. In fact, he has not yet been able to find a journal to publish an article on an important topic that he co-authored with Nobel Laureate Harry Markowitz! (I checked his e-mail three times when writing these words to be sure that I did not just imagine this part while experiencing a fever.) I expressed my shock at this report and noted that I believe that the reason why I feel a greater sense of urgency re solving the problem is that  my perspective is that of a journalist rather than that of an investing expert and I thus tend to focus on the public policy implications of the 30-year cover-up of Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller’s “revolutionary” (Shiller’s word) findings showing how stock investing really works (not at all how the Buy-and-Holders have been for many years now telling millions of middle-class investors it works).

Late in the afternoon of December 6, 2012, Arnott replied to my e-mail of that morning. He wrote: “I am very pleased that you were not offended at my frank advice.  I’m too embroiled in my own controversies to magnify them further with collaboration.  Your ideas are sound.  Your stridency is unhelpful to your cause.  Anyway, all the best.”

I immediately sent back the following words: “I understand. I hope that I am not guilty of stridency. You are certainly not the only person who has said that I am. So I am going to need to work harder to examine my own behavior. I wish you all the best as well.”

I then sent an e-mail to Vanguard Founder John Bogle, Four Pillars of Investing Author William Bernstein, and Academic Researcher Wade Pfau saying: “Since the three of you were copied on the e-mail that I sent to Rob Arnott this morning, I wanted you to see the resolution of our conversation as set forth in his e-mail to me this afternoon and then my response to him. And I of course wish the three of you all the best that this life has to offer as well. Please take good care.”

The following afternoon I received a final e-mail from Rob Arnott containing the following warm message: “Have a wonderful holiday season!”

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: Financial Analysts Journal, investing research, John Bogle, Rob Arnott, Rob Bennett, Wade Pfau, William Bernstein

“As Someone Who Is Quite Familiar with the Academic Finance Research on This Topic, Virtually All Finance Professors Would Tell You to Buy the Market Portfolio and Hold It. I Don’t Think That Buy-and-Hold Caused a Problem.”

November 23, 2012 by Rob

I have been sending e-mails letting people who don’t read the blog regularly know about my article describing the intimidation tactics used by Buy-and-Holders to silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau. Set forth below are the texts of some responses I have received:

1) Scott Vincent at GreenRiverAsset.com: Thanks much, Rob.  I did take a look at your article and can see that you and I share some common threads in terms of how we look at the markets.  I’m purely a stock picker but I can appreciate how a passive investor would want to pay attention to valuation when making allocations.  I sometimes forget that there are a lot of investors who put money into passive vehicles not because they think markets are completely efficient, but because there simply aren’t any good alternatives. Anyhow, I appreciate the note and the retweet.  Best of luck and stay in touch.  Scott

2) John Lott (I discovered John via an article he wrote about the debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden): Thanks, Rob.  As someone who is quite familiar with the academic finance research on this topic, virtually all finance professors would tell you to buy the market portfolio and hold it.  You just want to invest in the market and bet that the economy as a whole is going to be growing over time.  So I don’t think that buy and hold has caused a problem.  What caused the problem is the government forcing mortgage companies to make risky loans that they didn’t want to make.  Thanks.
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3) Jacob at the My Personal Finance Journey Blog: Hi, Rob — Thanks for sharing this with me. I’m very sorry to hear about all of the trouble you’ve had recently. I can’t believe people have gotten so hostile. Pretty wild!
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I sent the following words back to Jacob:  Thanks for those kind words. They mean a lot. I think it will change in time. I believe that, when it does, we will all see a huge payoff. The reason why the fight is so great is that the advance is so great and it causes people emotional pain to acknowledge the opportunities they missed. Hang in there, man. — Rob

Jacob said in response:  Sounds good. So have you had people threaten to like come to your house because of all this? On another topic, a couple weeks ago, I went up to Purcelville for the first time for a greyhound adoption fundraising event in Franklin Park. Very nice area up there to live it seems!
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I sent a reply e-mail saying:  Yes, they have threatened to do all sorts of things. That doesn’t matter. They are not serious about the threats. The purpose of the threats is to make people sick of the discussion and thereby close it down. The threats are TACTICS.

What matters here is the MOTIVE for the threats. Why do they do this? Everyone benefits from learning about a better way to invest. So they hurt themselves with this stuff. Why? Because it is painful to let in that you wasted opportunities, that you delayed your  retirement unnecessarily.
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I wish that I could get this point across to people. I have to refer to the threats to make the point effectively. But people HATE hearing about this stuff and tune everything out once I bring it up. If you have any thoughts about better ways to proceed, I sure would like to hear them.
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Shiller is the one who discovered the better way to invest. In his book, there is not one paragraph that mentions anything practical. He talks only about theory, never telling people what they should do with their money if the theory is valid. He told us why in an interview. He said that he has never told us what he knows about how to invest because he would be viewed as “unprofessional” if he did. The same things that happened to me would have happened to Shiller if he told.
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Wade was like a kid opening birthday presents when I told him about this stuff in e-mails. He did what Shiller never did, he showed the practical implications of Shiller’s theory in his research. He said to me (I’m paraphrasing):  “I cannot understand why no one has done this before, it is so amazing!”  Then he saw the reaction and concluded: “This is too controversial, I am not going to tell people about this anymore.”
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Our entire society makes a huge step forward if we become able to report on the academic research of the past 30 years. The research shows that we can reduce investing risk by 70 percent. I want to have the entire Personal Finance Blogosphere reporting on this, hundreds of blogs. The bloggers would all become famous and make lots of money creating new products and all sorts of things. And we would be doing great good, bringing the economic crisis to an end and helping people to retire many years sooner.
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But people need to feel safe to be willing to proceed. On the one hand, I need to tell people about the intimidation tactics (to explain why something so great has not been explored for so many years). On the other hand, I need to make people feel safe (telling them about the intimidation tactics obviously does not do this). I need to find some way to communicate the message that gets the word out and that encourages more people to write about this (whether in a positive or negative way does not matter — the key is just getting the discussion going).
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I’d be grateful to hear any suggestions you might have for getting the fire started. My intent here is 100 percent good. I want to help investors and I want to help bloggers. The investors want to be helped and the bloggers want to help them. How do we get everybody together sharing a positive experience? We need to make the discussions less emotional. We need to get people to accept that huge advances are possible and should not be viewed as a threat to established beliefs.
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The new ideas are a FULFILLMENT of the old ideas. They are a reform, an expansion, a correction that makes the old ideas workable in the real world.
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I think we need to have a small number of big names give their blessing to this. Then all the others would feel okay about it. But I have not yet had luck getting any big names entirely on board.

4) Mark Wolfinger at MDWOptions.com: I remember you now. You love to argue. You refuse to reply to questions. Your findings may be 100% pure gold. But your personality makes no one want to deal with you. That includes me.

I responded to Mark: Thanks for letting me know your thoughts. I wish you well.

5) Michael from The Economic Collapse blog: Thanks for sending the article over. Very interesting stuff.

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investing research

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #3 — Those Infuriating Peer Review Reports That Crushed Wade’s Hopes of Revolutionizing the Field of Investment Research

July 21, 2012 by Rob

The Greaney Goons threatened to send defamatory e-mails to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau’s employer to get him fired from his job. Wade had seen how the Goons operate up close and personal at the Bogleheads Forum and at Goon Central and at my site. He knew they were capable of following through on their threats and desperate enough to try just about anything. He expressed his worries to me re how the Goons might destroy his career.

All that said, I do not believe for two seconds that the threats made by the Greaney Goons were Wade’s only concern with publishing more research showing that Valuation-Informed Indexing has throughout the 140 years of stock-market history available to us always provided far higher returns than Buy-and-Hold at greatly reduced risk. Wade had LOTS of concerns. And properly so. There are lots of powerful people who have made careers pushing Buy-and-Hold. They are lots of powerful people who have made many millions of dollars pushing Buy-and-Hold. There are lots of powerful people who will be faced with billion-dollar lawsuits if middle-class investors learn what the last 30 years of academic research really says about the chances of Buy-and-Hold strategies ever working out well for long-term investors.

Wade’s research promised to revolutionize the field. There are a good number of people who do not want to see the field revolutionized. Wade was stepping on the toes of people who have demonstrated for many years now that they have ways of teaching a lesson to those who step on their toes.

Academic researchers live or die by their Peer Review reports. Wade shared with me two Peer Review reports for his revolutionary research. He was greatly discouraged by the words he read in those reports.

One of the reports was flat-out insulting. It stated: “We did not find the paper’s incremental contribution to the academic finance literature, assuming the analysis proved to be correct, rose to the level that we are seeking for papers in the JFR.” There’s nothing that can be said re that one. That one is a sick joke.

My sense is that it was the second Peer Review report that hit Wade harder. When he learned from our discussions how stock investing really works, he had big dreams for what he could do with this knowledge. He envisioned himself being published in the Journal of Finance, the most prestigious journal in the field. I told Wade that he was on his way to winning a Nobel prize. He didn’t permit himself to enjoy that crazy a dream. But he didn’t entirely rule out the possibility. He held it at a distance. Had his research really been published in the Journal of Finance, I am confident that he would have begun to seriously entertain hopes of winning a Nobel prize.

He was planning on doing lots of follow-up research. He told me when I praised his initial study comparing Valuation-Informed Indexing and Buy-and-Hold: “You ain’t seen nothing yet!” He wanted to see that initial research win at least a small percentage of the praise it merited. Then he would take things to the next step. That’s how bright, ambitious (in the good way) and prudent people proceed.

That second Peer Review Report killed that dream. The first one could be explained away as a quirk of one particular Peer Review team. But two negative reports? Given to a guy who was not accustomed to hearing negative words about his research work product? When Wade saw that second discouraging report, he realized that the mountain he was attempting to climb was a lot higher than he had anticipated. He was either going to have to prepare himself for an ordeal or — Move over to a mountain a bit less steep. He elected to move over to a mountain a bit less steep. He was probably thinking in the back of his mind that he could return to the first mountain at a later time if circumstances changed enough to make that one appear more imminently climbable.

What is the story with that Peer Review report? That’s a public policy issue. We need to teach millions of middle-class investors how stock investing really works if we are to overcome the economic crisis and get things back on the right track. If the best work of the best researchers gets shot down in Peer Review, we’ve got a serious problem on our hands, Houston.

There’s part of me that is enraged that Wade’s work did not receive a more enthusiastic reception. The research revolutionizes the field. It tells us the things about stock investing that we should have learned 30 years ago but did not because no researcher prior to Wade picked up on the implications of Shiller’s amazing 1981 findings.

There’s another part of me, though, that is not so shocked by the language in the Peer Review report. I have been writing about these matters on the internet for 10 years. I have seen lots of reactions that were 50 times worse than what Wade saw in that Peer Review report. The people who serve on Peer Review committees are humans too. They are subject to the same fears as the rest of us. They are subject to the same prejudices as the rest of us. They are subject to the same emotional addictions as the rest of us. My guess is that Wade was just unlucky enough to have one of those darn humans assigned to the Peer Review Committee for his research paper!

I like the comment that one of the peer reviewers made on Wade’s paper. He said: ““The elephant-in-the-room question is — What is the ultimate criterion for one to conclude with confidence that one strategy is better than the other?” That’s a pretty darn intelligent question. I have been promoting Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies on the internet for 10 years now. I’ve heard lots of reactions to the concept. I’ve heard many reactions less intelligent and less on the mark than that one. So I don’t feel entirely right slamming the Peer Review Team that so discouraged Wade. That comment indicates to me that the team approached the paper in at least a somewhat serious way.

I do slam the Peer Review Team for their conclusion, however. Their conclusion does not follow from the analysis evidenced in that comment. Yes, it is true that we need to identify with confidence the superior strategy. That’s the ultimate goal. But what if we genuinely do not know today whether Buy-and-Hold or Valuation-Informed Indexing is superior? What do we do, fake it? Do we pretend that we maintain confidence in Buy-and-Hold even though we have seen research that shakes that confidence?

What we must do is launch a national debate on this question of which strategy is superior. This question is far, far, far too important to duck. We need to resolve the question. No one investing expert, no one journalist, no one academic researcher, no one Peer Review Team can do that. We all have biases. We all have come from different sets of life experiences. To come to a conclusion re which strategy is superior, we must stage a national debate in which we all work together and we all get to have our say.

Yes, we must ultimately identify one strategy as superior. But that’s a process that will take time. To identify one strategy as superior prior to having the debate is to short-circuit the learning process. Is there some reason to believe that Buy-and-Hold is superior? There is not. Buy-and-Hold was developed at a time when long-term timing was not a practical option (index funds had not yet been created). So the researchers responsible for development of the Buy-and-Hold Model never tested whether long-term timing works. Wade did. He found zero reason to believe that Buy-and-Hold can work. Given that there is zero reason to believe that Buy-and-Hold can work and a great wealth of evidence showing that Valuation-Informed Indexing can work, it is not even remotely reasonable to conclude prior to any discussion or consideration of the issue that Buy-and-Hold is superior.

We need a national debate to tackle the question raised by the peer reviewer. And that’s just the purpose that peer reviewers should understand that academic journals serve! By publishing Wade’s research rather than rejecting it, the journal would have been making a statement that the critically important question of whether Buy-and-Hold or Valuation-Informed Indexing is superior was being put on the table for consideration. We would have seen many research articles submitted to many academic journals as a result. We would have had a great discussion. And, when the time was right, the issue would have been brought to a successful resolution.

The rejection of Wade’s paper didn’t help us answer the question raised by the Peer Review Team. It kept us in the dark regarding that important question. The Peer Review Team properly identified the question that matters and then failed to execute its duties in the manner required to see that that question received a good answer.

That said, I believe that Wade permitted himself to be overly discouraged by the two rejections.

Wade made a great comment in one of our conversations. He noted that there is a saying among academic researchers that all truly worthwhile papers are rejected at least once. That’s it! That’s the insight that applies!

Why is it that all truly important papers are rejected at least once? It’s because most papers are ordinary stuff, stuff that is perfectly fine in its way but stuff that is not going to change the world in any significant sense. Peer reviewers don’t experience much difficulty seeing the value of those papers because those papers conform to their expectations about how stock investing works. Papers that change history don’t fit the mold. Papers that change history are hard to accept. Papers that change history are unsettling. Papers that change history threaten to make you look like a fool if you endorse them because others may see them as strange and weird and different.

I run into this sort of concern all the time. People say my investing views are “controversial.” They say it in a way that suggests that that’s a bad thing. Huh? I’m a journalist. We live for controversy, Nobody reads newspapers that hint at no controversies. Controversy is good!

If a controversial claim ends up not being true, that’s no good, to be sure. But controversy by itself is not a bad thing. A controversial claim must be scrutinized carefully. Controversy for the sake of controversy serves no good purpose. But a controversial claims that stands up to scrutiny is the best sort of claim there is. It is controversial claims that stand up to scrutiny that change the world in a positive and constructive and life-affirming way.

Wade should have hung in there. Support for Buy-and-Hold is fading. Support for Valuation-Informed Indexing is growing. I have been taking vicious hits for 10 years now. I feel that Wade had it relatively easy. I essentially handed him a Nobel prize in Economics on a silver platter. He was going to need to demonstrate a little bit of patience before raking in all the praise and glory. But, presuming that Shiller is right, we will be seeing the next price crash within a few years. That’s when I expect to see a big change in public opinion on the question of whether honest discussion of the last 30 years of academic research should be permitted or not.

The Peer Review process has certainly let us down. The purpose of academic research is to teach us new things and Wade’s research showing the superiority of Valuation-Informed Indexing over Buy-and-Hold puts us on a path to discovering an entire universe of new things. His work should have been accepted immediately at the most important journals in the world. Still, the research was accepted — after two rejections, Wade was published by a perfectly acceptable journal. Had Wade stuck at it, his reputation would have grown and his follow-up studies would have been published by ever more prestigious journals. When you are publishing change-the-world stuff, you have to understand that it takes time to persuade the world that it needs changing.

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: investing research, peer review, Wade Pfau

Rob Bennett to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: “You Feel That I Am Questioning Your Ethics. I Am! Not Just Yours, Though. I Am Questioning the Ethics of Every Person Who Has Seen That Those Studies Have Not Been Corrected and Has Failed to Do Anything About It. The Entire Field Is Corrupt, Wade.”

July 9, 2012 by Rob

Yesterday’s blog entry reported on an e-mail sent to me by Academic Researcher Wade Pfau on April 6, 2012. I responded within an hour. The text of my response is set forth below.

Wade:

Thanks.

I need to get out the door to attend some Good Friday services.

I will get back to you either late today or more likely tomorrow.

I didn’t want you to think that I was not responding because of some sort of anger or something.

Rob

I sent a follow-up response later that day. The text is set forth below.

Wade:

I agree 100 percent when you say “I’m doing what I can.” You have done numerous hugely constructive things. There is no one I can think of who has done more.  Re this there is zero dispute.

I agree to a point and disagree to a point when you say that “the way that is best done is to provide new research.”

Providing new research is certainly constructive. That’s clear’y a  great thing to do.

But is that response mutually exclusive with the response of pointing out the errors in the Old School studies and getting them corrected?

I put up the post pointing out the errors in the Old School research on May 13, 2002. The Retirement Risk Evaluator was published a few years later, MANY years prior to the many recent media reports that finally
report that the Old School studies get the numbers wrong.

I am not a researcher. I did not have the skills needed to create that calculator on my own. If I had not put forward a post pointing out the errors in the Old School studies, John Walter Russell would never have started doing his research and we would not have that calculator today.

ALL of Russell’s research (some of the most important research that has ever been done in this field, in my assessment) exists because I put that post to that board and we thereby connected. It’s the same with the Return Predictor and the Scenario Surfer and my 200 podcasts and every entry in my three weekly columns. None of that material would exist if I had not had help from John and from hundreds of other community members who connected with me because of that post
and the discussion it generated (still going strong today ten years later!).

And to the extent I have helped you, that help wouldn’t have been provided had I not written that post. Anything that you read by me from my Vanguard Diehard days was the product of work effort that followed from the May 13, 2002, post.

You are doing fantastic work, Wade. I know I have said this many times and I know that I have never said otherwise because the thought that there could be an otherwise has never entered my brain. But there
are many roads to Dublin, to quote a phrase. Pointing out the errors in the studies is important work too.

Say that we get the ban lifted. Microlepsis was one of the most effective and most popular posters at Diehards. John D Craig was another. Retire at 48 was another. All were banned when the board moved to Bogleheads. It’s not just Rob Bennett who would be posting there if honest posting were permitted. Lots of people who were banned because they posted honestly would be there and lots of people who silence themselves on important points today would be speaking up if there were not punishments exacted for doing that.

Rober Shiller has said in interviews that he has never told us all he knows about investing because he would be considered “unprofessional” if he did so. Robert Shiller! This guy has tenure! At Yale! And he doesn’t dare cross the Goons. There is a serious problem here, Wade.

You do something very smart in seeking feedback at Bogleheads. It’s a great way to learn about the strong and weak points of a line of research before getting too formal with it. That’s a huge plus of this new communications medium that I’d like to see lots of people taking advantage of.

But not at the price of their personal integrity! Death threats? Defamation? Threats to get people fired from their jobs? Huh?

This stuff is not slightly unethical, Wade. It is so far over the line that, if we tolerate this stuff, there is no longer a line. We cannot become cannibals. When we give a Lindauer or a Greaney veto power over what is said on the internet, we compromise  ourselves in very, very serious ways. This is a money field. This is not a field in which any of us can afford to do that.

Research must be subject to challenge. If it’s not, it’s not science. You submit yourself to peer review. What the heck good is peer review if there is an understanding that research done in this field is never to be corrected no matter how wrong and dangerous it turns out to be?

I’ll tell you why I think you got upset about the Bill Bengen thread. I think you know on some level of consciousness that I am right. And I think you feel that I am questioning your ethics.

I am! Not just yours, though. I am questioning the ethics of every person who has seen that those studies have not been corrected and has failed to do anything about it. The entire field is corrupt, Wade. That sounds like an extreme statement but it really is just a statement of obvious objective fact. So many people got so many things so wrong that we have all adopted a  policy of not “telling” on anyone. So the mistakes just get worse and worse.

I want to take it the other way.

That does NOT mean that I have it in for Bill Bengen or John Bogle or John Greaney or anyone else. I do not. I like all those people. I’ve learned from them all. I am trying to help them all.

I suggested to Greaney very early on that he join me in writing a New School study. He would be famous today! He turned me down. But he could have done that.

Bengen can do a new study. He can make it better than his old one. I would be thrilled to help him out. I bet you would be too. I bet the entire Bogleheads board would be if a few troublemakers were shown the door first.

The learning process begins with the admission of mistakes. There is nothing whatsoever bad about admitting mistakes. People would LOVE Bill if he would openly admit his mistake and then get about the business of doing a better job. People would love Bogle if he would admit his mistakes and then get about the business of doing a better job. This sort of thing is done in other fields ALL THE TIME. It’s InvestoWorld that is weird.

I’ll tell you the core problem.

We are in the early days of understanding how stock investing works. Our knowledge today is primitive. We do not know it all. And that scares us. So we act like we do.

If we could just admit that, we could learn bunches. By getting so full of ourselves, we close the door to all sorts of wonderful advances.

There are lines of research that you cannot even imagine today. You are thinking too small. You are trying to follow in the footsteps of people who came before you when you have the opportunity to go to places to which they never went.

Yes, do that new research. That’s A+ stuff. But also please try to understand that it’s important that we get lots of other people doing A+ research. And to do that, we need to make clear as a community that we don’t think we know it all, that we understand that the purpose of the research is to help investors and that part of our responsibility in that regard is to correct mistakes and that we all favor the openness to new ideas that has long been characteristic of our society outside of the investing realm.

Does any of this make sense? Does it click?

It’s not “Do new research” or “Identify problems with old research.” It’s both! Both things are wonderful. Both things are needed. The idea that there is something wrong with admitting a mistake or something mean with pointing one out is killing us. I’m proud that I was the person who discovered the errors in those studies! And properly so!

Rob

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: Bill Bengen. Bogleheads Forum, investing research, retirement planning, SWRs, Wade Pfau, Wall Street corruption

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