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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
    Everybody Would Be Doing It."



    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "The Expected Return of Stocks [As Reported By The Stock-Return Predictor] Needs To Be At Least the Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) Rate for Stock Investing To Make Sense."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I Have Used Valuations to Adjust My Asset Allocation For Many Years With Very Favorable Results."





    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "I Don't Care If You Do or Don't Believe That the Market Will Behave Similarly in the Future As It Has in the Past. Either Way, This [The Stock-Return Predictor] Is an Excellent Way to Understand What the Market Has Done In the Past."


    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "My Role Is To Give People Who Don't Like What the Historical Stock-Return Data Says About the Effect of Valuations on Long-Term Returns Somebody To Yell At On Internet Discussion Boards."



    Rob Bennett at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "It Really Is a Shame and Indefensible That So Many Feel the Need to Jump Into It With No Interest of Posting on the Topic But Just to Disrupt. Are You That Insecure? Some on the Forum Have an Interest in This Topic. If You Don't, Stay Out!"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "Irrational Behavior Does Follow Patterns. But How Many Experts in Behavioral Finance Believe That Such Knowledge Can Be Used to Predict Markets? Basically, None. Your Model Cannot Attain the Level of Predictive Value You Claim."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "The Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Are Based on History. This [The Retirement Risk Evaluator] Shows, Based on the Same History, What the Probabilities Are for the Future at Various Starting Points. If the First Has Value, Then Surely This Does Too."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum

  • "There Are Hundreds of People Who Contributed to This. This Calculator [The Stock-Return Predictor] Demonstrates in a Compelling Way the Power of This New Internet Discussion-Board Communications Medium."




    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "A P/E10 of'26' Is Bad. Now Look at the 30-Year Return Predicted by the Calculator -- 5.4 Percent Real. That's Not Bad. There Are All Sorts of Strategic Implications That Follow From Understanding That Stocks Provide Different Sorts of Returns Over Different Sorts of Time-Periods."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Would Never Invest in Anything Without Having Any Idea What the Expected Return Is. For Instance, I Would Not Walk Into a Bank And Say "I'll Take One Certificate of Deposit, Please" WIthout Asking What Rate They Are Offering."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


    Rob Bennett

  • "The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Over. Rob Bennett Has Won.The Technical Evidence Supporting This Assertion Is Rock Solid."




    John Walter Russell,
    Owner of the Early Retirement Planning Insights Site
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on August 3, 2003.]

  • "I Am Afraid that the Emperor SWR [for "Safe Withdrawal Rate"] Has No Clothes."





    A Poster at the Early Retirement Forum
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on October 8, 2003.]

  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "Dear Rob -- I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September. Since Then, I've Read Archives From Many Discussion Boards and Websites, and I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "I Think Rob Bennett Did Provide An Important Contribution in Terms of Describing a Way for P/E10 to Guide Asset Allocation for Long-Term Conservative Investors. I Also Think He Was Right on the Issue of Safe Withdrawal Rates."


    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum After His Own Search of the Literature Turned Up Not a Single Such Study

  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Your Work Is at Odds with the Ethos of the Board -- Here the Theme is John Bogle's Philosophy, Which Eschews Market Timing. This Board Came Into Existence to ESCAPE One Individual, the Very Individual With Whom You Have Openly Aligned Yourself."




    A Lindaurhead (to Researcher Wade Pfau)

  • "The Problem With Long-Term Market Timing Is That It Takes Too Long to Find Out If You Are Right or Wrong."






    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Why Is It Such an Odious Violation of the Tenets of Bogleheadism to Explore Whether Someone Who Has Enough Patience Might Be Able to Benefit from the Transitory Nature of Speculative Returns (the Idea That the P/E Ratio Eventually Ends Up Where It Started)?"




    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Let Me Explain Why I Posted About This Here. Valuation-Informed Indexing Has Had Critics for Years. But Until Norbert Did It In 2008, Nobody Seemed to Have Provided a Serious Investigation of It. I Couldn't Understand Why. That Bothered Me."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "If You Really Don't Like Market Timing in Any and All Forms, You May Not See Any Point in an Empirical Investigation. You View Me as One of a Long Line of Hucksters Trying to Sell You Some Snake Oil. I Don't Want to Be Such a Person."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, in an E-Mail to Rob

  • "I Definitely Need to Cite You as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, As I Have Not Found Anyone Else Who Can Lay Claim to That. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation, As Far As I Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "I Tested a Wide Variety of Assumptions About Asset Allocation, Valuation-Based Decision Rules, Whether the Period Is 10, 20, 30 or 40 Years, and Lump-Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging To Show That the Results Are Quite Robust to Changes In Any of These Assumptions."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!"




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau
    (Wade Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton.)
    (The Buy-and-Hold Mafia Threatened to Get Wade Fired From His Job When He Reported His Findings.)

  • "I Wrote Up the Programs to Test Your Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Against Buy-and-Hold and I Am Quite Excited. You Say in the RobCast That VII Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time. I Am Getting Results That Support This."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Never Underestimate the Power of a Dominant Academic Idea to Choke Off Competing Ideas, and Never Underestimate the Unwillingness of Academics to Change Their Views in the Face of Evidence. They Have Decades of Their Research and Academic Standing to Defend."




    Jeremy Grantham

  • "There's So Much That's False and Nutty
    in Modern Investing Practice."






    Warren Buffett

  • "Following Conventional Wisdom Has Led a Generation of Investors Down the Road to Ruin."






    Steve Hanke

  • "It Is Sad That the Idea That Price Doesn't Matter...Should Ever Have Been Seriously Considered".






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "The Conventional Wisdom of Modern Investing Is Largely Myth and Urban Legend."





    Rob Arnott, Former Editor of
    Fianncial Analysts Journal

  • "Economics Is a Dog's Breakfast of Theoretical Ideas and Alleged Causal Relationships That Are At All Times Unproven and In Dispute."





    Terence Corcoran, Editor of National Post

  • "Since They Did Not Diagnose the Disease, There Is Little Popular Confidence That They Know the Cure. What If Economics Is, Actually, At the Same Level as Medicine Was When Doctors Still Believed in the Application of Leeches?"




    Gideon Rachman, Financial Times

  • "One of the Most Remarkable Errors
    in the History of Economics."



    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller
    (Referring to the Logical Leap from the Finding That Short-Term Price Changes Are Unpredictable to the Conclusion That the Market Sets Prices Properly)

  • "Everything Has Fallen Apart."






    Peter Bernstein, Author of Against the Gods
    (Referring to Old Views About How Markets Work)

  • "We Wonder Why Funds and Banks, Full of the Best and Brightest, Have Made Such a Mess of Things. Part of the Reason Is That We Have Taught Economic Nonsense to Two Generations of Students."




    John Mauldin, Thoughts From the Frontline

  • "Perhaps Most Scandalously, the Theory [Behind Buy-and-Hold] Remained Received Wisdom Long After Empirical and Theoretical Arguments Had Demolished It Within the Academic Community."




    John Authers, Financial Times

  • "I Love the Humans Dearly (the Title of the Book I Am Writing Is Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life) But They Can Be a Trial at Times. Hey! Helping the Humans Learn What It Takes to Invest Effectively Is Not All That Different From Being Married!



    Rob Bennett

  • "We Are Going to See Hearts Melt Following the Next Crash. I Will Be Working Side-By-Side With All of My Many Buy-and-Hold Friends to Rebuild Our Broken Economy."





    Rob Bennett

  • "Wow, I Did Not Realize You Had Achieved This Much Success and Had Many Devoted Believers/Followers. That’s Great, Then Ignore the Opposition. It Is Great to Have Opposition: That Means You Are Doing Something Right."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Do NOT Believe I Know It All. I Believe That Shiller Discovered Something Very Important and It Appalls Me That More People Are Not Exploring the Implications of His Findings. My Aim Is To Launch a National Debate."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Can See How Many Readers Would Be Put Off by the Somewhat Sensational/Scandalist Tone and Would Not Persevere to Read, Thinking You Are Losing Your Mind."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I LOVE Everything About Buy-and-Hold Other Than the Failure to Encourage Investors to Take Price Into Consideration When Setting Their Stock Allocations. That's a Mistake That Was Made Because Shiller’s Research Was Not Available at the Time The Strategy Was Being Developed."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up In My Classrooms and in My Students' Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade)."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Can Confirm Wade Pfau's Experience. Whenever I Send My Papers to the Financial Analysts Journal or Similar Traditional Journals, I Get Rejected."





    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "As a Fan of Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, I Know That Progress Can Be Frustratingly Slow and What Is Typically Needed Is Either a Crisis or the Ascent of a New Generation of Scientists Who Did Not Build Their Careers on the Old Models and Theories."




    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "We Trace the Deeper Roots [of the Financial Crisis] to the Economics' Profession's Insistence on Constructing Models That, By Design, Disregard the Key Elements Driving Outcomes in Real World Markets."




    Knowledge@Wharton

  • "Rob Gets Himself So Worked Up Over What Someone Else Is Doing With Their Own Money and Not Bothering Rob in the Least. As Long As They Aren't Knocking on Your Basement Door, What Do You Care? They Are Happy and Content. Leave Well Enough Alone and Focus on Your Own Account."


    Dab, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Been on Forum Since the BBS Days and I Think Rob is Special. He Could Be an Internet Meme If He Put Some Effort Into It. Someday, He Will Realize That the Only Thing He's Good At Is Being an Epic Loser. He Just Needs to Embrace That Idea and Run With It. Watch Out, LOLCats, Here Comes Pathetic Guy!"


    Wabmaster, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "Your Lies Are Not Even in the Realm of the Possible, Much Less Actually Credible, Much Less Actually True."






    Drip Guy, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I'm Your Friend. I Am Not a Boil on Your Ass."






    Rob Bennett, In a Response Comment
    to One of the Greaney Goons

  • "You Guys [the Greaney Goons] Are the Same Jokers Who Have Done This Before, Sparring with Rob Over Nonsensical Issues On This Site and Others, Leveling Personal Attacks, and You Don't Even Use Real Names! Rob Is Entitled to His Opinion, But the Fact That You Challenge Every Jot and Tittle of What He Says Makes It Clear You Have An Unholy Agenda. Please Take It Elsehwere."

    Kevin Mercadante,
    Owner of the Out of Your Rut Site

  • "Rob, Take This As Friendly Advice. You're a Smart and Articulate Guy and You Could Be Making Valuable Contributions to This Discussion. I've Dealt with the Mentally Ill Before and I've Found That They Sometimes Can Be Reasonable If Gently Redirected."



    Goon Poster

  • "Always Remember Others May Hate You, But Those Who Hate You Don't Win Unless You Hate Them, and Then You Destroy Yourself."





    Richard Nixon

  • "I’m a Numbers Guy. And I Believe I Understand Rob’s Thesis, that Future Returns, Over the Next Decade, Have a Tight Inverse Correlation to the PE10 for the Starting Point. Remember, Correlation Doesn’t Need to be 100%, Only That There’s a Bell Curve of Potential Outcomes that Shift Meaningfully Based on the Input."


    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "What a Difference a Threat to Get the Father of Two Small Children Fired From His Job Has on an Investing Discussion, Eh? Long Live Buy-and-Hold! It’s Science! With a Marketing Twist!"




    Rob, Referring to the Wade Pfau Matter

  • "I Respect Rob and His Analysis. He's Bright, Energetic and Passionate. [The Goon Stuff] Is Really Nonsense. I Enjoy a Thought-Provoking Conversation With People I Respect."





    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "The Fact that Shiller is a Proponent of the Approach Takes it from a Fringe View to Mainstream, in my Opinion."






    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "I Have had Academic Researchers Tell Me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to do Honest Research Once Again. I Have had Investment Advisors Tell me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to Give Honest Investing Advice Again."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Let’s Call a Spade a Spade, Shall We? Wade Pfau Stole Your Research and Put His Name on it, Throwing You Just a Tiny Crumb of Acknowledgement to Ward Off a Lawsuit. He’s Profiting Handsomely By His Theft, Leading a Charmed Life, Widely Published, Widely Respected. While Rob Bennett Continues to Toil in Total Obscurity. It’s So Incredibly Unfair, I Think If It Happened to Me, It Could Actually Drive Me Insane."

    One of the Greaney Goons

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“Re the Issue of Being Labeled a Nut, I’m Afraid that It’s a Bit Late to Help Me Out re That One!”

July 24, 2013 by Rob

I have been contacting numerous people to let them know about my article reporting on The Silencing of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau by The Buy-and-Hold Mafia.

Yesterday’s blog entry reported on my correspondence with Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor at George Washington University Business School. Set forth below is the text of the e-mail that I sent to Robert in response to the e-mail of his that is described in the earlier blog entry:

Robert:

I believe that we are on the verge of discovering powerful insights re the nature of investing risk.
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Take a look at Wade’s paper if you get a chance. He has a graphic (I believe it is on page 8) where he compares the Maximum Portfolio Drawdown for a Buy-and-Hold portfolio with the MPD for a Valuation-Informed Indexing portfolio. The difference is 60 percent vs. 20 percent. That’s a good measure of risk, is it not? Losses don’t really matter unless you sell and thereby lock them in. So the thing you want to avoid is big portfolio losses. You reduce the potential drawdown by close to 70 percent by being willing to take price into consideration when setting your stock allocation. Showing investors how to reduce stock risk by 70 percent is huge. I think it would be fair to say that this is the biggest breakthrough yet achieved in the history of investing analysis.
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Risk is essentially optional for stock investors today. It is following Buy-and-Hold strategies that creates risk. Once we all get about the business of warning investors of the dangers of Buy-and-Hold, we can pretty much say goodbye to the problem of stock investing risk.
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Re the issue of being labeled as a nut, I’m afraid that it’s a bit late to help me out re that one! I’ve been banned at 15 different discussion boards and blogs. Here’s a web site whose entire purpose is to ridicule me:
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http://www.s152957355.onlinehome.us/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=HOCO
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The other side of the story is that lots of good and smart people have said exceedingly kind things at my work. There are 120 endorsements at the “People Are Talking” section of my site, which runs down the left-hand side of the home page of my blog:
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http://arichlife.passionsaving.com/
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And I have had hundreds of ordinary middle-class people thank me for being the first person ever to explain how stock investing works in a way that makes sense to them. That counts for something.
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I would of course be happy if the Goons would stop attacking me. But the thing that drives me is doing right by my readers. So I don’t feel comfortable signing on to ideas that I know don’t hold water. I have hopes that we are going to see hearts melt following the next crash. I believe at that time that I will be working side-by-side with all of my many Buy-and-Hold friends (most of the people who post at that hate board were friends of mine in an earlier day) to rebuild our broken economy.
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Someone has to stick his neck out for human knowledge to advance over time. No? It amazes me that Shiller published his research 30 years ago and so few in this field have picked up on the many exciting implications. I love the humans dearly (the title of the book I am writing is “Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life”) but they can be a trial from time to time. Come to think of it, trying to help the humans learn what it takes to invest effectively for the long run is not all that different from being married!
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Rob

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investment theory, Rob Bennett, Robert Savickas

Valuation-Informed Indexing #145 — The Financial Crisis and the Systematic Failure of Academic Economics

May 23, 2013 by Rob

I have posted Entry #145 to my weekly Valuation-Informed Indexing column at the Value Walk site. It’s called The Financial Crisis and the Systematic Failure of Academic Economics.

Juicy Excerpt: All stock investors should read an amazing paper produced by the University of Copenhagen Economics Department. It is titled The Financial Crisis and the Systematic Failure of Academic Economics. This is the real story, the news that unfortunately does not often enough end up in the newspaper.

I’ll set forth a few snippets that you can use to determine whether reading the full paper is worth your time:

A Summing-Up: “The economics profession appears to have been unaware of the long build-up to the current worldwide financial crisis and to have significantly underestimated its dimensions once it started to unfold. In our view, this lack of understanding is due to a misallocation of research efforts in economics. We trace the deeper roots of this failure to the profession’s focus on models that, by design, disregard key elements driving outcomes in real-world markets. The economics profession has failed in communicating the limitations, weaknesses, and even dangers of its preferred models to the public. This state of affairs makes clear the need for a major reorientation of focus in the research economists undertake, as well as for the establishment of an ethical code that would ask economists to understand and communicate the limitations and potential misuses of their models.”

Filed Under: VII Column Tagged With: financial crisis, investment theory, Rob Bennett, Value Indexing

Economics Professor Valeriy Zakamulin: “I Do Believe That Stock Returns Are to Some Extent Predictable, Both in the Short- and Long-Term. But I Do Not Accept that Stock Returns Are Highly Predictable. My Model Predicted Better Than the Shiller P/E10 Model Post-1960.”

May 14, 2013 by Rob

I have been letting lots of people know about my article reporting on The Silencing of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau by The Buy-and-Hold Mafia.

Yesterday’s blog entry reported on my correspondence with Economics Professor Valeriy Zakamulin. Set forth below is the text of Valeriy’s response to the e-mail of mine detailed in the earlier blog entry:

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Rob:

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First of all, you forget that I do believe that the stock returns are to some extent predictable, both in the short- and long-term. But I do not accept that the stock returns are highly predictable. Just read my paper about the secular mean reversion and long-run predictability of stock returns. In this paper I actually show that my model predicted better than the Shiller’s PE10 model post-1960.

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Second, when it comes to the fixed interest rate securities like CDs and bonds, you need to understand that for an investor who holds them till maturity the return is positive and known in advance. Hence, in this case CDs and bonds are completely risk-free. If you bought a CD or a bond in 1980-82, this security would provided you 12-15% annual fixed return till maturity. That is why many investors switched to fixed income securities at that time.

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Third, Shiller in 1981 wrote a paper about excessive stock volatility (compared to some particular rational model). As far as I know he wrote a paper (co-authored by Campbell?) about his model that uses PE ratio only in 1998. In this paper they warned about a huge overvaluation in the stock market.

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Finally my comment on the following: I would not be inclined to set my bond allocation by “the current secular trend in the bond market.” I would compare the long-term value proposition available from bonds with the long-term value proposition available from other asset classes and go with the asset class offering the better deal. My view is that all investors should be seeking the asset classes that offer the best returns at the lowest risk.

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I believe this is a huge mistake if we agree that the stock and bond returns are predictable. If you believed that stocks would provide you with 6.5% annual average return (computed using 140 years of data) and use this estimate to invest in 2000 for about 10 years, you would be way off your expectations. If, on the other hand, in 2000 you used last 20 years to compute the average stock return and supposed that during the next 10 years the stocks provided the same average return, again you would be way off your expectations. The same examples can be constructed for the bond investing. A more wiser approach to stock and bond investing is to take into account the model that use the predictability of stock and bond returns.

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Valeri

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investment research, investment theory, Wall Street corruption

Economics Professor Valeriy Zakamulin: “In 1982 the Yield on 10-Year Government Bonds Approached 15% Annual. This Was Much More Than One Could Get From Risky Stocks, the Prices of Which Has Been Decreasing From About 1966. No Wonder the P/E10 Dropped to About 7 at That Time.”

May 13, 2013 by Rob

I’ve been letting lots of people know about my article reporting on The Silencing of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau by The Buy-and-Hold Mafia.

Yesterday’s blog entry reported on my correspondence with Economics Professor Valeriy Zakamulin. Set forth below is the text of the e-mail sent by Valeriy in response to the e-mail of mine detailed in the earlier blog entry:
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Rob:

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My comment on the following:

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“Which would you say were riskier in the early 1980s, stocks or CDs? I would say that CDs were far riskier. Inflation could have wiped out your returns. Stocks are virtually risk-free when they are selling at the prices that applied at that time. The likelihood was that valuations would rise dramatically over the next 10 years and the investor would obtain a return of something in the neighborhood of 15 percent real per year. In a worst case scenario, valuations would remain at insanely low levels and the return would be “only” 6.5 percent real. The only risk that I can see is the risk that the economy could have collapsed. But, if that happened, CDs would not pay off either. So the risk of stocks was certainly less than the risk of CDs at that time.”

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First of all, we know about this only a-posteriori.

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Second, about year 1980, you probably forget that at that time the short and long interest rates were sky-rocketing. You could get about 10% annual completely risk-free return from CDs. In 1982 the yield on 10-year government bonds approached 15% annual. This was much more than one could get from risky stocks, the prices of which had been decreasing from about 1966. No wonder that the PE10 dropped to about 7 at that time: investors sold stocks and bought bonds instead. And note that it was completely rational!

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Third, when you talk about stock risk, you’d better mention that you are talking about long-run risk, not short-run. If you bought stocks in 1980 and held them till 1982, you would lose. Of course, if you bought stocks and held them for about 10-20 years, you would greatly multiply your initial investment.

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I see that you focus mainly on stocks and forget about secular trends in bonds. Bonds, as stocks, also have secular bull and bear markets, and stock returns depend on whether it is a secular bull or a secular bear market in bonds. How much to allocate to bonds also depends on the current secular trend in the bond market.

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Valeri

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I replied:

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Valeri:

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On point after point, the same basic dynamic applies. If you ASSUME investor rationality, Buy-and-Hold and all the conventional investing wisdom makes perfect sense. If you ASSUME that investor emotions are the dominant influence on stock prices, Buy-and-Hold is the most dangerous strategy ever concocted by the human mind. It is the fundamental assumption that determines where your logic leads. Experts in this field spend all of their time debating the end points of their analyses. They need to examine the fundamentals. That’s where the action is (in my view!).
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Did you ever look at how the people posting at liberal web sites respond to political developments in contrast to how people posting at conservative web sites respond to them? You would think these two groups of people were living in different worlds or seeing different fact patterns play out. They view the world from fundamentally different perspectives. Both sets of people are entirely sincere. It is the starting-point world view that determines what they see when they look at the world. So it is with Buy-and-Holders and Valuation-Informed Indexers.
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You say “we know about this only a-posteriori.” That’s a Buy-and-Hold mindset speaking, Valeri (I mean no offense, please understand that I have the greatest respect in the world for all of my many Buy-and-Hold friends). You find it hard to accept that long-term stock returns are highly predictable and that investors could be so irrational as not to take advantage of this reality. So, when stocks perform in highly predictable ways, you look for reasons why investors did not act as they “should” have. The reason is that investors are not rational! They want to be. They could be a lot more rational than they are today. But to become more rational, they need more experts encouraging them to learn about what the last 30 years of academic research shows and to take advantage of tools that help them make practical use of this research and all this sort of thing. Investors cannot learn about these findings in the absence of hearing about them. We need to tell people about them and we need to encourage people to talk the findings over. Then investors will gradually become more capable of rational choices, to everyone’s benefit.
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All of the key things we “know” today about how stock investing works, we “knew” in the early 1980s. We now have 140 years of historical data available to us . In 1982, we had only 110 years of historical data available to us. But the message was precisely the same. Shiller didn’t publish his research showing that valuations affect long-term returns in 2011. He published it in 1981. The research and the data said the same thing then that it says now. It said that long-term timing is absolutely required, that any investor who fails to engage in long-term timing has zero chance of seeing his investing strategy work out well in the long term. Why? Because practicing long-term timing is nothing more or less than exercising price discipline and no market participant can do well without exercising price discipline. That’s Lesson #1. Nor can any market work if the majority of participants in it fail to exercise price discipline. Price discipline is the thing that makes markets work. Take price discipline out of the equation and you have a dysfunctional market and the price crashes and the economic crises that follow from that.
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I very much disagree that 10 percent returns were available risk-free from CDs in the early 1980s. Do you know of any peer-reviewed academic research that tells us how to predict long-term CD returns? I do not. So you are always taking on inflation risk when investing in CDs. This is not so with stocks. The U.S. economy has for 140 years been sufficiently productive to support returns of 6.5 percent PLUS inflation and, at times of insanely low prices, the return naturally goes up to 15 percent real. It is not possible to obtain similar returns from CDs on a risk-free basis. Stocks offered a far better long-term value proposition than CDs in the early 1980s, according to the academic research (in my assessment!).
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You say “no wonder that the P/E10 dropped to about 7 at that time,” suggesting that the reason was the price drops we were seeing from 1965 forward. You are ignoring the effect of the relentless promotion of Buy-and-Hold strategies by the “experts” in this field! Say that Shiller has published his research in 1971 instead of 1981 and that we all had been promoting Valuation-Informed Indexing all along. In that case, investors would have responded to the lower stock prices in the same way they respond to lower prices for any other good or service they buy in this consumer wonderland of ours. They would have gotten excited about the lower prices and increased their darned stock allocations! That would have brought those insanely low stock prices back up to reasonable levels in no time flat. It is the relentless promotion of Get Rich Quick/Buy-and-Hold strategies that causes insane price levels like that (and all the human misery that goes with the unemployment rates we see at times when we permit the heavy promotion of such doomed strategies). Had we all been telling people all along what we learned from Shiller’s research, none of this would have posed any problem whatsoever.
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I of course disagree that it was “completely rational” for millions of investors to sell their stocks at a time when the most likely 10-year annualized return was 15 percent real. I see it just the other way around. I see it as rational for investors to increases their stock allocations when the long-term value proposition is outstanding and to decrease them when the long-term value proposition for stocks is worse than it is for no-risk asset classes.
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You are 100 percent correct that I am talking about long-term strategies, not short-term strategies. Shiller’s research confirms the Buy-and-Hold finding that short-term timing never works. I view that insight as the second most powerful investing insight in history. None of what I am talking about works in the short term. In fact, in the short term, Valuation-Informed Indexing is often a total disaster (look at what happened from 1996 through 1999 for a recent, real-life illustration of the point). This stuff does not work in the short term. That point cannot be emphasized enough. I believe that much of the confusion re these points is that investors have a natural but unfortunate inclination to focus on the short term and there is so much money to be made in this field by appealing to this unfortunate inclination that most “experts” in the field feel pressured to rationalize the promotion of strategies that are precisely the opposite of the strategies they would recommend if they used the last 30 years of peer-reviewed academic research as their guide.
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You say that an investor who bought stocks in 1982 and then held for 10 to 20 years would do very well. This is so. But is it because the investor followed a Buy-and-Hold strategy or is it because stocks were priced to deliver outstanding long-term returns in 1982? I say that it is the latter. Buy-and-Hold can APPEAR to work for a time. But it only works when stocks are priced to deliver a strong long-term value proposition. Buy-and-Holders don’t sell when the long-term value proposition turns bad. So they eventually give up most of the gains they enjoyed in earlier years. It is because Valuation-Informed Indexers don’t do this that they are able to retire so many years earlier. The Valuation-Informed Indexers go with the same high stock allocations as the Buy-and-Holders during the years when stocks offer a strong long-term value proposition. But they lower their stock allocations when the long-term value proposition for stocks is no longer there. So they never experience the portfolio wipeouts that are eventually experienced by EVERY Buy-and-Holder (there has never yet been an investor who followed a Buy-and-Hold strategy for an investing lifetime and did not see most of the accumulated gains of a lifetime wiped out at one point — this has never once happened to any Valuation-Informed Indexer). The only difference between the two strategies is that the Valuation-Informed Indexers retain a far higher percentage of their gains and thus feel a far greater emotional peace about the investing experience than the Buy-and-Holders, who pretend for a time that their bull market gains are real and then suffer great emotional angst as the phony gains disappear into thin air in the secular bear brought on by the relentless promotion of Buy-and-Hold strategies.
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Finally, I would not be inclined to set my bond allocation by “the current secular trend in the bond market.” I would compare the long-term value proposition available from bonds with the long-term value proposition available from other asset classes and go with the asset class offering the better deal. My view is that all investors should be seeking the asset classes that offer the best returns at the lowest risk. If all investors did this, the investing markets would work as well as other markets, in which market participants do precisely this. It is this idea that investors should follow entirely different sets of rules that cause all the trouble. Investors need to be informed about what works to be able to invest effectively and investors need to invest effectively for our markets to stabilize and remain healthy.
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It all makes sense — But only from the perspective of someone who has rejected the conventional idea that investors can invest rationally without taking price into consideration when making purchase decisions. If you ASSUME that rationality is possible without price discipline, you will end up in a very different place. My question to you is — Is that because the other place is the right place or is it because your starting-point ASSUMPTION could never permit you to arrive at any other destination?
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Please do not take any of this personally. I like you and I respect you just as I like and respect all of my many Buy-and-Hold friends. I interpret your questioning as a sincere desire to figure out where I am coming from and so I am trying my best to be as frank as possible while also being as polite and warm and respectful as is obviously appropriate. I hope you will hear these words in the spirit in which I am sending them your way, my new friend.
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Rob

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investing research, investment theory, Wall Street corruption

Economics Professor Valeriy Zakamulin: “What You Basically Say Is That an Index Portfolio Should Eliminate All RIsk. This Is Somewhat Related to the Old Markowitz Idea of Diversification — When You Put Together Lots of Stocks, the Risk Decreases.”

May 10, 2013 by Rob

I have been letting lots of people know about my article reporting on The Silencing of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau by the Buy-and-Hold Mafia.

Yesterday’s blog entry reported on my correspondence with Economics Professor Valeriy Zakamulin. Set forth below is the text of the e-mail sent by Valeriy in response to the e-mail of mine detailed in the earlier blog entry:

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Rob:

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My comment on the following: I don’t agree that the thing that stock investors are being paid for is a willingness to take on risk. I believe that this idea became popular in the days before index funds. Then there really was risk — the investor was sharing in the fortunes or lack thereof of the company in which he bought shares of ownership. Indexing changes all that. When you buy an index fund, you are buying a share in the productivity of the U.S. economy. That economy has been sufficiently productive to produce an annual return of 6.5 percent real for 140 years now.

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What you basically say in this paragraph is that an index portfolio should eliminate all risk. This is somewhat related to the old Markowitz’ idea of diversification: when you put together lots of stocks, the risk decreases. If the stock returns were mainly independent of each others, in this case all risk could be eliminated and a large portfolio of stocks would be effectively riskless. However, this does not happen in reality. No matter how many stocks you put together, the risk decreases to some particular level only.

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Last but not least, what about bond investing? Often one advocates for a portfolio of 60% in stocks and 40% in bonds. Roughly 50-50. What are your thoughts on bond investing? Do you also have similar ideas on how to educate investors about the dangers of bond investing?

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Valeri

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I replied:

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Valeri:

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Thanks for raising more intelligent challenges!
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Yes, I certainly agree that diversification reduces risk. It drives me crazy when Buy-and-Holders say that there is no such thing as a free lunch. The diversification achieved through indexing is the ultimate free lunch. And Bogle is the guy who championed index funds. So it seems to me that Bogleheads should be celebrating free lunches on a daily basis. Yet many express skepticism about them. It is my belief that free lunches are wonderful and that we should all gobble them down when we discover them!
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You say “this doesn’t happen in reality.” I say it DOES happen in reality. Wade’s research shows that Valuation-Informed Indexing reduces the risk of stock investing by close to 70 percent (the Maximum Portfolio Drawdown Percentages drops from 60 percent to 20 percent). That’s huge. And we are still in the early years of the transition. Once all investors have been educated about the implications of Shiller’s findings, the volatility of stock prices will be dramatically reduced from what it was during the time-period examined by Wade. That will bring stock risk down further. I don’t believe that we will ever get to zero risk. But I don’t think it is fair to say that there is zero risk for CD investors either. I see no reason why it would not be possible to bring stock risk down to something only a bit greater than the risk that applies for CDs.
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Which would you say were riskier in the early 1980s, stocks or CDs? I would say that CDs were far riskier. Inflation could have wiped out your returns. Stocks are virtually risk-free when they are selling at the prices that applied at that time. The likelihood was that valuations would rise dramatically over the next 10 years and the investor would obtain a return of something in the neighborhood of 15 percent real per year. In a worst case scenario, valuations would remain at insanely low levels and the return would be “only” 6.5 percent real. The only risk that I can see is the risk that the economy could have collapsed. But, if that happened, CDs would not pay off either. So the risk of stocks was certainly less than the risk of CDs at that time.
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The 60/40 stuff is the the product of the conventional model for understanding how stock investing works. This is the sort of thing that was discredited by Shiller’s research. Please note that the subtitle of his book refers to his findings as “revolutionary.” That means that these old ideas get pulled up by the roots. If valuations affect long-term returns, there is no one stock/bond allocation percentage that makes sense in all valuation scenarios. There are some valuation levels at which it makes sense to be 80 percent in stocks and there are other valuation levels at which it makes sense to be 20 percent in stocks. There never can be any one rule-of-thumb allocation percentage because the #1 goal is for the investor to keep his risk profile constant and, if valuations affect long-term returns, risk VARIES with changes in valuation levels. Shiller’s finding that valuations affect long-term returns turned the conventional wisdom on its head. We are today only in the early stages of coming to terms with the implications of his findings. That’s why this stuff is so “controversial” today.
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I believe that the most important thing is that investors limit themselves to investment choices that they understand well. The reason why this is so important is that even the best investing strategies often pay off only in the long run, so investors MUST have enough confidence in their strategies to stick with them for the long term. Investors who have the time and skill and inclination to study bonds can invest in them successfully. The asset class has a place. But most middle-class people know little about bonds. Thus, they should not be invested in bonds, in my assessment.
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I like stocks as a growth-oriented asset class. I think that 80 percent of investors should invest only in index funds. At times of high valuations, investors need an alternate asset class that counters stocks effectively. I see TIPS and IBonds as better choices than conventional bonds for the alternate asset class. The reason is that bonds are subject to inflation risk while TIPS and IBonds are not. People worry that there are times (like today) when TIPS and IBonds pay low returns. That’s not a problem because stocks pay high-enough returns when purchased in a valuation-informed way to finance a middle-class retirement. The investor should use the P/E10 metric as a guide to know how much to shift his allocation from stocks to TIPS or IBonds as valuations rise. Then, when stocks are again offering a strong long-term value proposition, he should return to his high stock allocation.
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This calculator (The Investor’s Scenario Surfer) permits the investor to see how this strategy has worked over a 30-year time-period throughout history:
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http://www.passionsaving.com/portfolio-allocation.html
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I have zero problem with bonds or real estate or any other asset class for those investors who are willing to study alternate asset classes enough to understand well how they operate. But I believe that the typical middle-class person needs a smart, safe, simple strategy. This is why I rank Bogle as the second most important investing analyst of all time (second only to Shiller). Bogle aims to serve this middle-class need, which most others have ignored. His only mistake, in my view, was his failure to take valuations into consideration. That is critical. But, with that exception, I am a Boglehead all the way.
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A simple way to think of Valuation-Informed Indexing is that it is the investing strategy that combines Shiller’s key insights with Bogle’s key insights. I like to argue that Shiller and Bogle go together like chocolate and peanut butter!
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Rob

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investing research, investment theory

“Investors Should ALWAYS Aim to Keep Their Risk Profile Right. Whether the Economic Outlook Is Bright Doesn’t Matter — That Is Cooked Into the Price, So It Doesn’t Need a Separate Analysis.”

May 8, 2013 by Rob

I have been writing many people to let them know about my article reporting on The Silencing of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau by the Buy-and-Hold Mafia.

Yesterday’s blog entry reported on my correspondence with Economics Professor Valeriy Zakamulin. Set forth below is the text of my reply to the e-mail detailed in the earlier blog entry:
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Valeriy:

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Re the first point — You’ll get a different result if you factor in whether the fair-value P/E10 number appears on the way up or the way down. When we see a P/E10 of 15 on the way up, the P/E10 that applies 10 years later is always a good bit higher. When we see a P/E10 of 15 on the way down, the P/E10 10 years later is always lower. It’s not the number alone that matters. You need to take into consideration what type of investor emotion it is that produced the number. It’s no failing of P/E10 that it doesn’t produce good predictions from a fair-value start for those who do not take investor emotions into consideration. That’s a failing on the part of those performing the analysis. P/E10 always works for those willing to consider both numbers and emotions, both of which are critical aspects of the stock investing story.
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Re your second point — I believe that investors should ALWAYS aim to keep their risk profile right. That’s the key to success. Whether the economic outlook is bright doesn’t matter — that is cooked into the price anyway so it doesn’t need a separate analysis. This all comes down to risk management, in my assessment. The P/E10 value is telling us how risky stocks are. If all investors aimed to keep their risk profiles constant (they would if only we would tell them how to do it), stock prices would always self-correct and all would be well. Fama was right that the market WANTS to be efficient. What makes it inefficient is the Social Taboo that says that we must not tell people about the dangers of going with high stock allocations at times of insanely high P/E10 values. We want to be rational. But we cannot pull it off without access to good information and those of us who understand the realities dare not provide good information in light of the intense social pressures imposed on us not to speak too clearly about these matters.
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My view is that we are on the verge of a huge breakthrough. We now know how to assess risk effectively (look at the P/E10 value!). Once we know how to assess risk effectively, we know how to eliminate risk. There is no reason why stocks need to be a risky asset class. We made them a risky asset class for many years because of our ignorance of the realities. But we have overcome our ignorance over the past 50 years. Now we just need to give ourselves permission to talk through and think through all that we have learned and to share the insights we have developed with all interested parties without apology or hesitation.
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I don’t think that a wise use of P/E10 ever calls for getting entirely out of stocks. It never predicts short-term results and short-term results matter. P/E10 is a risk-management tool. Should investors have lowered their stock allocations in 1996? Absolutely. Should they have gone to zero stock allocations? No. The aim should have been to keep their risk profiles roughly stable. So an investor who properly went with an 80 percent stock allocation in 1982 might properly have gone with a 20 percent stock allocation from 1996 forward. But not zero.
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Please note that those who dropped to 20 percent stocks in 1996 are ahead of the game today. And they will be even more ahead of the game after the next crash. And the differential will grow and grow over the decades of compounding to come. Wade’s research shows this:
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http://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/29448/
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Please understand that I am only stating my sincere views. I obviously do not know it all. I have been wrong about important things in the past and it could be that it is happening again. I am telling you what I believe because you are asking good questions and I love to be able to share this stuff, which I view as being very important. But I am not trying to say that I know it al. We need to have everyone sharing his or her sincere views if we are to hope that as a society we can advance in our understanding of this stuff. I am certainly grateful for the challenges to my thinking that you have advanced in our e-mail communications. They force me to think and to reconsider points where I may have made mistakes. But you need to know that I am biased. I cannot help it.
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Rob

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investment research, investment theory, Stock Valuations

“The Problem We Have Is a Circular One. The Experts Say That Buy-and-Hold Can Work Because This Is What People Want to Hear. And the People Want to Hear It Because in an Earlier Time They Were Persuaded by the Experts that Buy-and-Hold Could Work and Now Their Retirements Are Riding On It.”

May 1, 2013 by Rob

I’ve been sending e-mails to numerous people letting them know about my article reporting on The Silencing of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau by the Buy-and-Hold Mafia.

Yesterday’s blog entry reported on my e-mail correspondence with Economics Professor Valeriy Zakamulin. Set forth below is my response to the e-mail detailed in yesterday’s report:
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Valeriy:

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You are making great points and asking important questions. Thanks for being willing to get down to the nitty gritty of all this.
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What I believe in might be termed a “Conspiracy of Ignorance.” I believe that the humans gradually acquire knowledge over the years. We start out not knowing and then over time we come to know. I don’t think that people are meeting in a dark room and crafting plans to trick everybody. I believe that people misunderstand how stock investing works and pass along their misunderstandings when they share what they think they know with others.
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I believe that the Efficient Market Hypothesis was an advance over what we had before. It was a tool that helped us advance. But I also believe that belief in it has become dogmatic and the dogmas are holding us back.
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I understand the point you make about the default belief (the “presumption of innocence”). Ideally, there would be no default belief. We would just tell people what we know for sure and let people make decisions based on that. The trouble is, it is the most fundamental question of all (how markets work) that causes the most uncertainty. Buy-and-Holders believe that the market is efficient. If that’s so, stock investing risk is stable and staying at the same stock allocation at all times is the ideal strategy. But what if this is not so, what if valuations affect long-term returns? If that is so, then risk is variable and Buy-and-Hold is the most dangerous strategy imaginable (if millions of investors elect to remain at the same stock allocation when they should be lowering their stock allocations to keep their risk profiles constant, the collective losses will be in the many trillions of dollars and will cause an economic crisis and in time a Second Great Depression).
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So which is it? As a society, we do not know. My belief is that valuations affect long-term returns, that the market is NOT efficient. But there are millions of good and smart people who believe just the opposite, who believe that Buy-and-Hold is a 100 percent sensible and responsible strategy. So, in the practical realm what do we do? We cannot tell people to hold off on investing for retirement until we all agree on which approach is best. Given that we do not all agree what is best, what should we tell investors to do?
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It seems to me that the presumption should be that valuations affect long-term returns. All that long-term timing is is paying attention to price. There is no other good or service that we can buy for which price does not matter. Why presume that stocks are the one exception? Plus, we have the fact that for the 140 years of historical data available to us, price always HAS mattered; the data confirms what common sense tells us must be so. In contrast, Buy-and-Hold has never worked in the long-term. Those who stay at the same stock allocation always face a wipeout sooner or later; prices gradually rise higher and higher and higher (because so few are paying attention to price!) and eventually the market crashes and we all lose (even those not invested in stocks suffer in the economic crisis brought on by the huge loss of collective wealth experienced in a stock crash).
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I believe that the Efficient Market Hypothesis was a powerful insight containing one huge flaw that is now in the process of killing us. The hypothesis ASSUMES investor rationality. Shiller’s research shows that investors are NOT rational. What fools people is that the irrationality of investors does not do us much harm in the short-term. From 1982 through 1996, stocks were priced to provide a strong long-term value proposition. Buy-and-Holders were going with high stock allocations for different reasons than Valuation-Informed Indexers but the practical effect (good returns) was the same for both groups of investors. It was only with the 2008 crash that Buy-and-Holders were able to see in a concrete sense the danger of staying with the same stock allocation at all times (and of course the next crash — Shiller’s work suggests that prices will drop another 65 percent over the next few years — will bring the point home in a truly terrifying way).
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The Buy-and-Hold Model (rooted in a belief in the Efficient Market Hypothesis) permits researchers to study all aspects of the investing experience that can be examined through the use of logic. But the the most important thing we need to study is RISK and the risk of stock investing is rooted in the human inclination to let emotion influence one’s allocation choices. We need to give ourselves permission to discuss RISK in a frank way and that requires that we talk about things not acknowledged by the Efficient Market Hypothesis. The P/E10 metric is a tool that lets us reduce investor emotion (risk) to a number. Stocks were priced at three times fair value in 2000, according to the P/E10 metric. This means that the investor who thought that he had a portfolio value of $600,000 in reality had a portfolio value of $200,000. Big difference! That investor’s illusions caused him to make all sorts of bad financial planning decisions. Those illusions caused him to ruin his life. But the researchers in this field never talk about that aspect of the question! They talk about numbers. To understand investing, they need to talk about human emotions. It is the human desire for self-deception that is the driving force behind all bull markets and it is bull markets that make stock investing risky (there has never been a price crash of long-term significance starting from a time when stocks were selling at low or moderate prices).
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The problem we have is a circular one. The experts say that Buy-and-Hold can work because this is what people want to hear. And the people want to hear it because in an earlier time they were persuaded by the experts that Buy-and-Hold could work and now their retirements are riding on it. How do we break the circle? The researchers should be warning people of the dangers of Buy-and-Hold in a world in which the Efficient Market Hypothesis has been discredited (if Shiller is right, the Efficient Market Hypothesis is wrong). Most are not doing this. When researchers fail to point out the dangers, people assume that the advice they are hearing from the experts must be more or less okay. In reality, it is as dangerous as all get-out. The researchers are not paying attention to how their research is being used — it is being used to prop up long-discredited (even if once promising) ideas.
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Here is a blog post in which I report on an e-mail I received from Rob Arnott:
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http://arichlife.passionsaving.com/2012/12/11/former-financial-analysts-review-editor-rob-arnott-to-rob-bennett-ive-had-similar-experiences-to-those-you-describe-my-work-has-often-triggered-overt-hostility-from-the-guardians-of-the-status-q/
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I find it a scandal that researchers were intimidated into not doing research they believed was important. How can we advance knowledge if we are afraid to look at the most important questions? Who is it that is sending the hate mail to these journals? Scientists? Is the sending of hate mail part of the scientific process?
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These sorts of things don’t happen only to Rob Arnott. When I was working with Wade Pfau, he was like a kid in a candy store, discovering new insights on a daily basis and getting more and more excited about where he could go with them. Now he feels that he dare not explore any of those insights. Please look at the quotes at the bottom of this article (the longer version of the article I linked to in my first e-mail to you)
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http://arichlife.passionsaving.com/the-buy-and-hold-crisis/academic-researcher-silenced-by-threats-to-get-him-fired-from-his-job-after-showing-dangers-of-buy-and-hold-investing-strategies/
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and see what Wade said about the work he was doing at the time. He was AMAZED that no other researchers had engaged in these sorts of explorations. He couldn’t make sense of it. Now he knows. Other researchers don’t look at these questions because it is a career-limiting move to do so.
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Even Robert Shiller has experienced intimdation. Shiller has said in interviews that he has never told us all that he knows about how stock investing works because he knows that he would be branded “unprofessional” if he were to do so. Huh? An economics professor at Yale doesn’t feel comfortable sharing what he knows about a critically important subject that he has studied for decades? How could that possibly be a good thing? How could such intimidation tactics be part of a valid scientific endeavor? Intimidation tactics are not science. Intimidation tactics are the antithesis of science.
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I believe that this article
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http://www.passionsaving.com/investing-discussion-boards.html
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is one of the most important “studies” even done in this field. Most people in this field won’t even refer to it as a “study” because it does not contain numbers and charts and tables. I say it is important because it tells the true story of the EMOTIONS of the Buy-and-Holders. That’s what we need to know about to advance our knowledge. That’s the missing piece. The market really does want to be efficient. Fama was close to getting it right. What he missed is that investors can behave rationally only if they have access to all the information they need to make good decisions. And, once we get into a bull market, as a society we formulate a SOCIAL TABOO that blocks us from engaging in discussion of the problems of overvaluation. We “know” that the inflated prices are real at the same time that we also “know” on another level of consciousness that they are not. The conflict between the two things we “know” drives us crazy and we evidence our craziness in the sorts of comments you see recorded in that article.
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I hope that I am making at least a little bit of sense, Valeriy. I am grateful to you for giving me an opportunity to at least take a stab at making sense to a kind and intelligent person who is well-informed about these issues.
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I do believe in a sort of conspiracy. But it is not the sort of conspiracy in which bad people meet in a smoke-filled room to craft plans by which to screw people over. It is a Conspiracy of Ignorance in which millions of people who deep in their hearts very much want to move on to a better place hold back from doing so because they are afraid of what they will find on the other side of The Big Black Mountain. I have been to the other side and I am here to report back that there are wonderful things to be found on the other side. My problem is that it is hard to convince people who have never seen these things how much we are able to advance our understanding of how stock investing works today. We now know how to make stock investing a virtually risk-free endeavor. Wade’s research shows that the Maximum Portfolio Drawdown Percentage drops all the way down from 60 percent to 20 percent (with no loss of return!) for those investors open to taking valuations into consideration when setting their stock allocations. We are on the verge of experiencing the greatest advance in our understanding of how stock investing works ever experienced in history.
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All we need is for people to calm down and let in all the good stuff. But people are afraid of the new. I can comfort them and reassure them and inspire them if I can talk to them. But the Buy-and-Hold dogmatics go crazy with fear whenever and wherever I try. And they use the studies of the academic researchers to justify their use of their intimidation tactics. So I need to report to the people affected by this (that’s every last one of us!) how the academic research is being used. It is being used today not to advance knowledge but to hold it back from advancing! I need to say that not because I do not like the researchers (I like them very much) but because it is so and because the intimidation tactics have brought on an economic crisis and because we must address this problem if our free market economic system is to survive.
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That’s where I am coming from, in any event. I hope that my venting has made at least a tiny bit of sense. Please do not think that in any way, shape or form I am aiming to criticize you personally. We are all (including me!) little parts in a big Machine. My job is to get that big Machine back on the right track so that all our work becomes productive and positive and meaningful and life-affirming and fun again. It’s a very hard job but it very much needs to be done and through a strange twist of events it seems that I was elected to take this one on.
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Please let me know of any thoughts that these words inspire. If I am off-base, I very much need to know how.
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Rob
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ADDENDUM A:
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On reading these words back, I see that I did not address your final point, that a move to money markets would cause a collapse. It’s true that a move out of stocks would cause prices to fall to fair-value levels and that that would be a significant drop from where we are today. The good news is that, once we let people learn how stock investing really works, we will never again see a drop below fair-value levels. In a rational world in which knowledge can be shared freely, stock prices are self-adjusting. High prices cause the value proposition of stocks to fall, which causes people to want to lower their stock allocations, which causes prices to return to fair-value levels. There never again will be bull markets or bear markets once we open the internet to honest posting on the implications of Shiller’s findings.
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The emotional approach (Buy-and-Hold), however, eventually causes prices to fall to levels far BELOW fair-value levels. Every secular bull in history has eventually brought us to a P/E10 level of 7 or 8, a 65 percent price drop from where we are today. Insane emotionalism in one direction always brings on insane emotionalism in the other direction. What we want is emotional (and market) stability and that can only be brought on by addressing the emotional conflict that I referred to up above. People will feel at ease about stock investing when they understand how it works and people will understand how it works when we produce lots of research showing that buying stocks is just like buying any other good or service, the price you pay ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS matters. It is emotion that causes risk. And it is the belief that it is possible to invest in stocks successfully without taking price into consideration that causes emotion (no human is capable of having confidence in a strategy that ignores price because it defies common sense to believe that price might not matter).
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We WILL see a price drop if we open the internet to honest posting but it will be limited. The huge price drop we will see if we continue the cover-up will bring on the Second Great Depression. We can recover from a relatively small price drop and our new knowledge of how to make stocks a virtually risk-free investing class will then bring on an economic boom as millions of middle-class people learn for the first time how to finance their retirements in a truly smart, simple and safe way.
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ADDENDUM B:
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What I am suggesting re the “How Science Works” question is that the default belief be that price DOES matter, that long-term timing IS required. Price matters with every other good or service offered for sale. Why ASSUME that it works the other way around with stocks? If that were the assumption, people could still publish research trying to show that Buy-and-Hold works, but the default belief would be the opposite of what it is today. If people concluded that there was good evidence in both directions, they would go with a belief that the case for Buy-and-Hold (or the case for market efficiency) had not yet been made and that thus it was not appropriate to suggest that such a strategy could work. The root of all our troubles is this crazy assumption. There has never been a single study showing that long-term timing doesn’t work and common sense tells us that it MUST work. Why assume the opposite of what both common sense and the entire record of historical data tell us and then become dogmatically opposed to challenges to the crazy assumption?
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To make sense of this, I think we need to go back to the days when the Efficient Market Hypothesis was developed and examine why the mistake was made. My sense is that the problem is that index funds were not available at the time (Bogle formed Vanguard in 1976). Long-term timing only works with indexes. Since indexes were not available when the work was being done to see whether timing works or not, the researchers tested only short-term timing. When they learned that short-term timing doesn’t work, they jumped to a hasty conclusion that both forms of timing do not work (because in a practical sense there really was only one form at that time). It is my belief that, had Shiller published his “revolutionary” (his word) findings in 1971 rather than 1981, the name of the 1974 book would have been “A Valuation-Informed Walk Down Wall Street” and we today would be living in the greatest period of economic growth in our history instead of in the early years of the Second Great Depression. You see concern expressed about the national budget deficit all the time. But if you compare the numbers, the Buy-and-Hold problem is the far more serious one (the market was overpriced by $12 trillion in 2000 and even Bogle acknowledges that prices always return to fair-value levels with the passage of about 10 years of time — it is obviously not possible for any economy that loses $12 trillion of buying power in 10 years to avoid collapse).
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ADDENDUM C:
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My bottom line is that we all need to work together to launch a national debate on these questions. I obviously do not know it all. I obviously am one of the flawed humans. So anyone who goes solely by what I say is a darned fool. But what if there were thousands of people coming from all sorts of different perspectives and from all sorts of sets of life experiences addressing these questions with clear and frank and honest words? I think that would turn all this negative energy into positive energy. Say that Buy-and-Hold prevailed. That would be wonderful! By permitting the debate, the Buy-and-Holders would end up for the first time feeling a true confidence in their ideas. We should all want to see that happen if the reality is that Buy-and-Hold works.
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I don’t believe that it is even possible for people to know something that they do not feel free to talk about. We learn through discussion. So we MUST talk openly about these matters. It is this assumption that the market is efficient despite the 30 years of academic research showing otherwise that keeps people from talking openly. So I believe that that assumption must be challenged. I believe that we should give Fama full credit for his contribution, which was huge. But I also believe that Fama himself wants his ideas to bear good fruit and so on some level of consciousness Fama himself (and all those who follow his ideas) wants learning to advance. If Fama and Bogle and all the others on “that side” of things wants learning to advance, we ALL want learning to advance. So let’s do it! Let’s get about the business of learning together what really works! We should put an end to The Debate About Having a Debate and proceed to the actual debate that matters, the debate about how stock investing works in the real world.
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Rob

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investing research, investment theory

Valuation-Informed Indexing #139 — Our Mixed-Up Ideas About Stock Investing Risk

April 9, 2013 by Rob

I’ve posted Entry #139 to my weekly Valuation-Informed Indexing column at the Value Walk site. It’s called Our Mixed-Up Ideas About Stock Investing Risk.

Juicy Excerpt: No one deliberately tries to drive in a risky manner.

No one starts out a school year saying “I want to risk getting an “F” this semester, so I am going to try to get in the habit of never doing homework.”

No football player practices how to drop the football with the aim of increasing the risk of a turnover.

It drive me crazy that Buy-and-Hold investors describe how investing works in such a manner as to suggest that risk is a good thing. They tell investors that stocks pay high returns because they are a risky asset class. The clear suggestion is that taking on risk is inherently a good thing.

The idea of an effective investing strategy is to avoid risk.

Filed Under: VII Column Tagged With: investing risk, investment theory, Value Indexing

“People Will Start Making Money From Valuation-Informed Indexing Once the Social Taboo Is Lifted. New Calculators Will Be Created. Books Will Be Published. There Won’t Be One Academic Researcher Showing the Superiority of VII Over Buy-and-Hold, There Will be Hundreds.”

March 15, 2013 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently put to the Goon Central board:

Will the argument remain circular after the Campaign of Terror is brought to a full and complete stop (by the close of business today?).To a large extent, it will.

The true believers will remain true believers. They will no longer make use of death threats and board bannings and tens of thousands of acts of defamation and threats to get academic researchers fired from their jobs. But their minds will not change in a day or a week or a month.

It is the minds of those on the edge that will change. I did not believe most of what I believe today on the morning of May 13, 2002. I learned because I heard things said that I had never heard said before. John Walter Russell changed his mind on many things too. Wade Pfau changed his mind on many things too. So did hundreds of others.

More of that will happen once all the ugliness is put away. The percentage of the population that believes in Valuation-Informed Indexing will grow once honestzzz posting is permitted at every board and blog on the internet.

People will start making money from Valuation-Informed Indexing once the Social Taboo that today stops people from talking about the last 30 years of peer-reviewed academic research is lifted. There will be new calculators created and the people who created them will become famous and seeing that will encourage others to create new calculators. There will be hundreds of books written exploring the ideas that I have explored at my web site over the past 10 years. There won’t be one academic researcher publishing research showing the superiority of VII over Buy-and-Hold, there will be hundreds. The Goons will be sent to prison. News of that will go viral. People will wonder how it could be that an investing strategy that is promoted as research-based ended up causing hundreds of people to get sent to prison.

The new ideas will grow and grow and grow and grow and the old ideas will lose supporters and lose supporters and lose supporters and lose supporters.

Eventually there will be no more circular discussions because there will be no more Buy-and-Holders. Buy-and-Hold was a mistake. The reason why the discussions have been circular is that there is no effective way to defend a mistake. The only hope that the Buy-and-Holders have had going back to the morning of May 13, 2002, was to turn the discussions into a circle of nonsense and add generous helpings of hate and anger and envy and malice and intimidation to the mix.

Those days are coming to an end.

The discussions will not be circular much longer.

Once we give ourselves permission to discuss the peer-reviewed academic research of the past 30 years honestly, there is no more Buy-and-Hold.

That’s a very, very, very good thing for all of us.

There is no purpose in discussing Get Rich Quick strategies. They never work.

We should be discussing research-based strategies.

Once those who have posted in “defense” of Mel Lindauer and John Greaney are placed in jail cells, that’s what we all will be doing.

Do I wish that prison cells did not have to enter the picture? Of course. Obviously.

But that one was never my call, was it?

My call was whether to post honestly on the errors in the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies or not.

I elected to post honestly.

And that has made all the difference.

Rob

Filed Under: From Buy/Hold to VII Tagged With: behavioral finance, investment theory, Wall Street corruption

University of Siena Economics Professor Roberto Reno: “Your Article Was Thoughtful, Even If I Don’t Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. For What It May Count, I Am Not Pressured by Anyone in My Research”

February 28, 2013 by Rob

I have been sending e-mails to numerous people letting them know about my article on The Silencing of Academic Researcher Wade Pfau by the Buy-and-Hold Mafia. Set forth below are the words of the response I received from University of Siena Economics Professor Roberto Reno, followed by my reply to him:

Thanks for your article. I will have a closer look at Pfau’s paper and pass it to students.

However, I have to disagree on a couple of things.

1) The fact that you mention (long-term stock prediction) is also contained in the enclosed paper by Cochrane (admittedly, the more mainstream scholar around) [My guess is that Reno wrote these words quickly and had intended to suggest that Cochrane is NOT the most mainstream scholar around — Rob] and was published in the Journal of Finance (top in the field).

2) It is not strictly true that there is no research on this. Let me enclose a small example from myself. Here we show that, when properly computing standard deviations, presumed long-term strategy with extra returns are actually as effective as random picks. There are, obviously, many other examples. I just supervised an undergraduate thesis on value investment.

Your article was thoughtful, though, even if I don’t like too much the conspiracy idea. For what it may count, I am not pressured by anyone in my research.

Best.

Roberto

Roberto:
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Thanks for your kind and balanced and well-informed response. Thanks especially for the two attached articles.
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I agree with the point that you are making. There ARE people who say that returns are predictable in the long run at the same time that there are people who say that Buy-and-Hold strategies can work. I think that the best way to describe today’s reality is to say that we are in a twilight zone. We know that the market does not behave the way it would have to behave if it were efficient (there should be no predictability). But we have thus far been unwilling as a society to explore in an in-depth way the IMPLICATIONS of this reality.
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If the market is not efficient, it is predictable. If the market is predictable, stocks are not nearly as risky as we have long thought them to be. Wade’s research shows that an investor who is willing to give up following Buy-and-Hold principles can thereby reduce the risk of stock investing by 70 percent (the largest Portfolio Percentage Drawdown goes from 60 percent to 20 percent). That’s huge! We could be doing an awful lot of good for an awful lot of people by publicizing this reality. Also, we could stop economic crises by publicizing this reality. Each of the four economic crisis we have seen since 1870 were preceded by a P/E10 level of 25 or higher. If people knew how bad a deal stocks are once the P/E10 level exceeds 25, most investors would sell once prices became insanely high and that would pull prices back to fair-value levels so the economic crisis would be averted. The economic and political implications here are very far-reaching.
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We have thus far held back from doing that. Why? Paradoxically, it is precisely BECAUSE the benefits of exploring these realities would be so great that we hold back from doing so! That sounds crazy but it really makes sense in a crazy kind of way when you think about it. Huge advances make those who did not discover the realities that led to the advances feel bad that they were not the ones who discovered them. There are a lot of Buy-and-Holders who do not want us to move forward because of emotional failings that are common to all humans. My sense is that the Buy-and-Holders are not even aware of their feelings of envy and shame (the humans often experience cognitive dissonance re these sorts of things). But they are there and they are real and they are affecting our ability as a society to learn things we need to know about stock investing in very important ways.
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I am trying to take us from the unfortunate place where we are today to the wonderful place where we all deep in our hearts want to be tomorrow. The Buy-and-Holders of course want to experience the benefits of knowing the realities of stock investing as much as everyone else. The tough part is — How can we get past their defenses and help them learn the realities of stock investing without TALKING about the last 30 years of research-based findings? We can’t. We must feel free to talk openly about these matters to make progress. But it is open discussion of the research findings showing that Buy-and-Hold never works in the long run that sets the Buy-and-Holders off. They worry about all sorts of things. They worry that they failed themselves and that they failed their friends and neighbors and co-workers and on and on. And of course there are career concerns and pride concerns. The Buy-and-Holders are in great emotional pain today and I believe that it is the responsibility of everyone in this field aware of this pain to do what he or she can to relieve it.
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That’s the goal of my project. I want to help the Buy-and-Holders develop the self-awareness needed for them to react to these findings in the way that deep in their hearts they have always wanted to react to these findings. I believe that great advances await us on the other side of The Big Black Wall.
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I understand that my words here relate to emotions and that it is not the norm in the research field to discuss such matters. That is the problem! The core flaw of Buy-and-Hold is its excessive rationality. Investing is a largely emotional enterprise and we can never understand it fully without first coming to accept that we will need to be willing to examine human emotions to become able to do so effectively. It’s hard dealing with the emotional stuff. But my strong sense of things is that the potential rewards of doing so are large indeed. I hope and believe that following the next crash there will be many people (including many who advocate Buy-and-Hold strategies today) who will see the merit of going down this path.
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I understand why you say that I am putting forward a “conspiracy theory.” I don’t think I am. But it is a close enough call that I can see how people of good intent would see it that way. I would describe this as a conspiracy of ignorance. The humans were born in ignorance and we develop knowledge over time. When we are on the verge of making huge advances, we get scared because we have grown comfortable with our old ideas. That’s what I see going on here. I view the Buy-and-Holders as heroes and pioneers. They laid the foundation for the huge advances that I believe we will be making in the next few years. I want to be friends with all the Buy-and-Holders. The hostility is all on their end (I say that not as some sort of dig but just to let you know that I feel great affection and respect for my critics because of all the great work they have done). I hate it that I am required by the standards of my profession (I am a journalist) to say negative things about the Buy-and-Holders. There is just no other way to tell the amazing and incredibly positive (despite some surface appearances!) story without doing so. I hope that I always balance the negative things I say with a good bit of telling of the other side of the story, which is every bit as important and true.
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If you have doubts about whether other researchers have been intimidated, you might want to take a look at the words of the response I received from Former Financial Analysts Journal Editor Rob Arnott. He told me that young researchers who were planning to do work supporting his ideas were taken aside and told that their careers would be damaged if they did so. This is what happened to Wade. This sort of thing should never happen. This is serious stuff. Research that is not independent is research not fit for publication. I believe that MANY researchers (perhaps MOST) are affected by the intimidation tactics without knowing that they are being affected. We all are social creatures and we all become aware of taboos that may not be violated. Questioning Buy-and-Hold has become taboo in our society. I had one fellow on a discussion board tell me that he had never heard anyone before me describe Buy-and-Hold as a “Get Rich Quick” scheme. But, if the price you pay for stocks affects the value proposition you obtain from them and Buy-and-Holders encourage investors to ignore price when setting their allocations, that is precisely what it is, no? I have spoken to numerous bloggers and financial planners and economists who are aware of the intimidation tactics and of course appreciate how big a story it is and yet hold back from writing about it because they feel “funny” about it. Most of these people have not been directly intimidated but yet they feel and act intimidated all the same. The Social Taboo that holds us all back from speaking openly about the dangers of Buy-and-Hold strategies is a poison that is killing us all, in my assessment.
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The full truth is that this was so of me for a long time. I am the person who discovered the errors in the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies. Paradoxically enough, I learned about them by reading one of John Bogle’s books! This was in the late 1990s. I held back from posting about the errors in the retirement studies (they fail to make an adjustment for the valuation level that applies on the day the retirement begins!) until May 2002. I was afraid of what would happen to me if I went public with what I knew. And the reaction I saw was 5,000 times worse than anything I imagined in my worst nightmare. Lots of people either saw that or sense the possibility of something similar happening to them and hold back from speaking out plainly and boldly and firmly as to their views on investing as a result. It’s a mess!
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To some extent I am shooting in the dark with these e-mails. I am putting ideas before people and seeing how they react. I am trying to learn in more detail the reasons why we have as a society been so reluctant to talk about ideas that could do us so much good. Each reaction that I get makes the picture a tiny bit clearer to me. So I am grateful to you for taking time out of your day to help me out.
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Please take good care.
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Rob

Filed Under: Reactions to Pfau Silencing Tagged With: investment research, investment theory, Wall Street corruption

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