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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
    Everybody Would Be Doing It."



    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "The Expected Return of Stocks [As Reported By The Stock-Return Predictor] Needs To Be At Least the Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) Rate for Stock Investing To Make Sense."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I Have Used Valuations to Adjust My Asset Allocation For Many Years With Very Favorable Results."





    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "I Don't Care If You Do or Don't Believe That the Market Will Behave Similarly in the Future As It Has in the Past. Either Way, This [The Stock-Return Predictor] Is an Excellent Way to Understand What the Market Has Done In the Past."


    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "My Role Is To Give People Who Don't Like What the Historical Stock-Return Data Says About the Effect of Valuations on Long-Term Returns Somebody To Yell At On Internet Discussion Boards."



    Rob Bennett at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "It Really Is a Shame and Indefensible That So Many Feel the Need to Jump Into It With No Interest of Posting on the Topic But Just to Disrupt. Are You That Insecure? Some on the Forum Have an Interest in This Topic. If You Don't, Stay Out!"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "Irrational Behavior Does Follow Patterns. But How Many Experts in Behavioral Finance Believe That Such Knowledge Can Be Used to Predict Markets? Basically, None. Your Model Cannot Attain the Level of Predictive Value You Claim."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "The Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Are Based on History. This [The Retirement Risk Evaluator] Shows, Based on the Same History, What the Probabilities Are for the Future at Various Starting Points. If the First Has Value, Then Surely This Does Too."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum

  • "There Are Hundreds of People Who Contributed to This. This Calculator [The Stock-Return Predictor] Demonstrates in a Compelling Way the Power of This New Internet Discussion-Board Communications Medium."




    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "A P/E10 of'26' Is Bad. Now Look at the 30-Year Return Predicted by the Calculator -- 5.4 Percent Real. That's Not Bad. There Are All Sorts of Strategic Implications That Follow From Understanding That Stocks Provide Different Sorts of Returns Over Different Sorts of Time-Periods."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Would Never Invest in Anything Without Having Any Idea What the Expected Return Is. For Instance, I Would Not Walk Into a Bank And Say "I'll Take One Certificate of Deposit, Please" WIthout Asking What Rate They Are Offering."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


    Rob Bennett

  • "The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Over. Rob Bennett Has Won.The Technical Evidence Supporting This Assertion Is Rock Solid."




    John Walter Russell,
    Owner of the Early Retirement Planning Insights Site
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on August 3, 2003.]

  • "I Am Afraid that the Emperor SWR [for "Safe Withdrawal Rate"] Has No Clothes."





    A Poster at the Early Retirement Forum
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on October 8, 2003.]

  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "Dear Rob -- I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September. Since Then, I've Read Archives From Many Discussion Boards and Websites, and I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "I Think Rob Bennett Did Provide An Important Contribution in Terms of Describing a Way for P/E10 to Guide Asset Allocation for Long-Term Conservative Investors. I Also Think He Was Right on the Issue of Safe Withdrawal Rates."


    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum After His Own Search of the Literature Turned Up Not a Single Such Study

  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Your Work Is at Odds with the Ethos of the Board -- Here the Theme is John Bogle's Philosophy, Which Eschews Market Timing. This Board Came Into Existence to ESCAPE One Individual, the Very Individual With Whom You Have Openly Aligned Yourself."




    A Lindaurhead (to Researcher Wade Pfau)

  • "The Problem With Long-Term Market Timing Is That It Takes Too Long to Find Out If You Are Right or Wrong."






    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Why Is It Such an Odious Violation of the Tenets of Bogleheadism to Explore Whether Someone Who Has Enough Patience Might Be Able to Benefit from the Transitory Nature of Speculative Returns (the Idea That the P/E Ratio Eventually Ends Up Where It Started)?"




    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Let Me Explain Why I Posted About This Here. Valuation-Informed Indexing Has Had Critics for Years. But Until Norbert Did It In 2008, Nobody Seemed to Have Provided a Serious Investigation of It. I Couldn't Understand Why. That Bothered Me."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "If You Really Don't Like Market Timing in Any and All Forms, You May Not See Any Point in an Empirical Investigation. You View Me as One of a Long Line of Hucksters Trying to Sell You Some Snake Oil. I Don't Want to Be Such a Person."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, in an E-Mail to Rob

  • "I Definitely Need to Cite You as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, As I Have Not Found Anyone Else Who Can Lay Claim to That. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation, As Far As I Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "I Tested a Wide Variety of Assumptions About Asset Allocation, Valuation-Based Decision Rules, Whether the Period Is 10, 20, 30 or 40 Years, and Lump-Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging To Show That the Results Are Quite Robust to Changes In Any of These Assumptions."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!"




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau
    (Wade Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton.)
    (The Buy-and-Hold Mafia Threatened to Get Wade Fired From His Job When He Reported His Findings.)

  • "I Wrote Up the Programs to Test Your Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Against Buy-and-Hold and I Am Quite Excited. You Say in the RobCast That VII Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time. I Am Getting Results That Support This."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Never Underestimate the Power of a Dominant Academic Idea to Choke Off Competing Ideas, and Never Underestimate the Unwillingness of Academics to Change Their Views in the Face of Evidence. They Have Decades of Their Research and Academic Standing to Defend."




    Jeremy Grantham

  • "There's So Much That's False and Nutty
    in Modern Investing Practice."






    Warren Buffett

  • "Following Conventional Wisdom Has Led a Generation of Investors Down the Road to Ruin."






    Steve Hanke

  • "It Is Sad That the Idea That Price Doesn't Matter...Should Ever Have Been Seriously Considered".






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "The Conventional Wisdom of Modern Investing Is Largely Myth and Urban Legend."





    Rob Arnott, Former Editor of
    Fianncial Analysts Journal

  • "Economics Is a Dog's Breakfast of Theoretical Ideas and Alleged Causal Relationships That Are At All Times Unproven and In Dispute."





    Terence Corcoran, Editor of National Post

  • "Since They Did Not Diagnose the Disease, There Is Little Popular Confidence That They Know the Cure. What If Economics Is, Actually, At the Same Level as Medicine Was When Doctors Still Believed in the Application of Leeches?"




    Gideon Rachman, Financial Times

  • "One of the Most Remarkable Errors
    in the History of Economics."



    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller
    (Referring to the Logical Leap from the Finding That Short-Term Price Changes Are Unpredictable to the Conclusion That the Market Sets Prices Properly)

  • "Everything Has Fallen Apart."






    Peter Bernstein, Author of Against the Gods
    (Referring to Old Views About How Markets Work)

  • "We Wonder Why Funds and Banks, Full of the Best and Brightest, Have Made Such a Mess of Things. Part of the Reason Is That We Have Taught Economic Nonsense to Two Generations of Students."




    John Mauldin, Thoughts From the Frontline

  • "Perhaps Most Scandalously, the Theory [Behind Buy-and-Hold] Remained Received Wisdom Long After Empirical and Theoretical Arguments Had Demolished It Within the Academic Community."




    John Authers, Financial Times

  • "I Love the Humans Dearly (the Title of the Book I Am Writing Is Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life) But They Can Be a Trial at Times. Hey! Helping the Humans Learn What It Takes to Invest Effectively Is Not All That Different From Being Married!



    Rob Bennett

  • "We Are Going to See Hearts Melt Following the Next Crash. I Will Be Working Side-By-Side With All of My Many Buy-and-Hold Friends to Rebuild Our Broken Economy."





    Rob Bennett

  • "Wow, I Did Not Realize You Had Achieved This Much Success and Had Many Devoted Believers/Followers. That’s Great, Then Ignore the Opposition. It Is Great to Have Opposition: That Means You Are Doing Something Right."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Do NOT Believe I Know It All. I Believe That Shiller Discovered Something Very Important and It Appalls Me That More People Are Not Exploring the Implications of His Findings. My Aim Is To Launch a National Debate."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Can See How Many Readers Would Be Put Off by the Somewhat Sensational/Scandalist Tone and Would Not Persevere to Read, Thinking You Are Losing Your Mind."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I LOVE Everything About Buy-and-Hold Other Than the Failure to Encourage Investors to Take Price Into Consideration When Setting Their Stock Allocations. That's a Mistake That Was Made Because Shiller’s Research Was Not Available at the Time The Strategy Was Being Developed."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up In My Classrooms and in My Students' Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade)."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Can Confirm Wade Pfau's Experience. Whenever I Send My Papers to the Financial Analysts Journal or Similar Traditional Journals, I Get Rejected."





    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "As a Fan of Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, I Know That Progress Can Be Frustratingly Slow and What Is Typically Needed Is Either a Crisis or the Ascent of a New Generation of Scientists Who Did Not Build Their Careers on the Old Models and Theories."




    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "We Trace the Deeper Roots [of the Financial Crisis] to the Economics' Profession's Insistence on Constructing Models That, By Design, Disregard the Key Elements Driving Outcomes in Real World Markets."




    Knowledge@Wharton

  • "Rob Gets Himself So Worked Up Over What Someone Else Is Doing With Their Own Money and Not Bothering Rob in the Least. As Long As They Aren't Knocking on Your Basement Door, What Do You Care? They Are Happy and Content. Leave Well Enough Alone and Focus on Your Own Account."


    Dab, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Been on Forum Since the BBS Days and I Think Rob is Special. He Could Be an Internet Meme If He Put Some Effort Into It. Someday, He Will Realize That the Only Thing He's Good At Is Being an Epic Loser. He Just Needs to Embrace That Idea and Run With It. Watch Out, LOLCats, Here Comes Pathetic Guy!"


    Wabmaster, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "Your Lies Are Not Even in the Realm of the Possible, Much Less Actually Credible, Much Less Actually True."






    Drip Guy, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I'm Your Friend. I Am Not a Boil on Your Ass."






    Rob Bennett, In a Response Comment
    to One of the Greaney Goons

  • "You Guys [the Greaney Goons] Are the Same Jokers Who Have Done This Before, Sparring with Rob Over Nonsensical Issues On This Site and Others, Leveling Personal Attacks, and You Don't Even Use Real Names! Rob Is Entitled to His Opinion, But the Fact That You Challenge Every Jot and Tittle of What He Says Makes It Clear You Have An Unholy Agenda. Please Take It Elsehwere."

    Kevin Mercadante,
    Owner of the Out of Your Rut Site

  • "Rob, Take This As Friendly Advice. You're a Smart and Articulate Guy and You Could Be Making Valuable Contributions to This Discussion. I've Dealt with the Mentally Ill Before and I've Found That They Sometimes Can Be Reasonable If Gently Redirected."



    Goon Poster

  • "Always Remember Others May Hate You, But Those Who Hate You Don't Win Unless You Hate Them, and Then You Destroy Yourself."





    Richard Nixon

  • "I’m a Numbers Guy. And I Believe I Understand Rob’s Thesis, that Future Returns, Over the Next Decade, Have a Tight Inverse Correlation to the PE10 for the Starting Point. Remember, Correlation Doesn’t Need to be 100%, Only That There’s a Bell Curve of Potential Outcomes that Shift Meaningfully Based on the Input."


    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "What a Difference a Threat to Get the Father of Two Small Children Fired From His Job Has on an Investing Discussion, Eh? Long Live Buy-and-Hold! It’s Science! With a Marketing Twist!"




    Rob, Referring to the Wade Pfau Matter

  • "I Respect Rob and His Analysis. He's Bright, Energetic and Passionate. [The Goon Stuff] Is Really Nonsense. I Enjoy a Thought-Provoking Conversation With People I Respect."





    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "The Fact that Shiller is a Proponent of the Approach Takes it from a Fringe View to Mainstream, in my Opinion."






    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "I Have had Academic Researchers Tell Me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to do Honest Research Once Again. I Have had Investment Advisors Tell me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to Give Honest Investing Advice Again."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Let’s Call a Spade a Spade, Shall We? Wade Pfau Stole Your Research and Put His Name on it, Throwing You Just a Tiny Crumb of Acknowledgement to Ward Off a Lawsuit. He’s Profiting Handsomely By His Theft, Leading a Charmed Life, Widely Published, Widely Respected. While Rob Bennett Continues to Toil in Total Obscurity. It’s So Incredibly Unfair, I Think If It Happened to Me, It Could Actually Drive Me Insane."

    One of the Greaney Goons

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“Emotion-Informed Investing Is the Future. Emotion-Ignorant Investing (Buy-and-Hold) Is the Past. Bogle Should Be Interviewed in Psychology Today. He Couldn’t Handle It Today. But Once He Brings Himself Up to Speed on the Peer-Reviewed Academic Research of the Past 32 Years, He Will be Just Fine.”

June 21, 2013 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently put to the discussion of a blog entry posted at this site:

When is your interview with Psychology Today?

I understand that you are being sarcastic, Sparky.

But an interview with Psychology Today would be 100 percent appropriate and 100 percent wonderful. I look forward to the opportunity to participate in such an interview.

The Buy-and-Holders achieved an amazing advance in rooting their strategies in the academic research. I am 100 percent with them re that one. I am also 100 percent in accord with the Buy-and-Holders in their belief that the key to long-term success is becoming an Unemotional Investor.

The dispute is over how best to achieve that goal.

All overvaluation and undervaluation is the product of investor emotion. What P/E10 tells us is how emotional investors are being at any given moment in time.

The Buy-and-Holders aim to keep the emotion out of stock investing by IGNORING emotion. Just don’t include the metric that identifies the extent of emotionalism in the stock price and you’ll be fine, according to the Buy-and-Holders.

No!

Re that one, I am in TOTAL disagreement with the Buy-and-Holders.

The key to avoiding investor emotion is to become knowledgable about investor emotion. You don’t want to ignore investor emotion, you want to immerse yourself in it. You want to include the emotion factor in ALL your research and in ALL your allocation decisions. It is absolutely critical.

That’s Valuation-Informed Indexing. That’s the advance that we achieve over Buy-and-Hold.

You could call it Emotion-Informed Indexing. That would be perfectly appropriate.

Emotion-Informed Investing is the future. Emotion-Ignorant Investing (Buy-and-Hold) is the past. Emotion-Ignorant Investing ALWAYS fails in the long run.

ALL the experts in this field should be doing interviews in Psychology Today. The fact that you put forward the idea in a sarcastic way reveals how far off the right track the Buy-and-Holders have wandered in recent years.

Bogle should be interviewed in Psychology Today. He couldn’t handle it today. But, once he brings himself up to speed on the peer-reviewed academic research of the past 32 years, he will be just fine. We all should be working together to help our good friend Jack Bogle sufficiently up to speed on the investing research so that he will become able to handle an interview with Psychology Today with ease.

My best wishes to you and yours.

Rob

Filed Under: Investor Psychology Tagged With: investor emotions, Investor Psychology, Stock Valuations, the future of investing

“When I Send Those E-Mails, I Hurt People’s Feelings and I Cause People to Hate Me”

October 26, 2012 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently put to the Goon Central board:
The article re Wade Pfau makes the case re the dangers of Buy-and-Hold in an extremely powerful way.The case is so powerful that people cannot bear to hear it. Gary North is no Buy-and-Holder. But even Gary North could not bear to hear this message. This is a hard one to take.

When I send those e-mails, I hurt people’s feelings and I cause people to hate me. It takes courage to do that.

That’s why no one else has done it. I am not smarter than John Bogle. I have more courage than John Bogle. A better way of saying it is that I have been forced to DEVELOP more courage than John Bogle. I didn’t act with courage prior to May 13, 2002. I was like everybody else, trying hard not to offend even though my intellect told me that staying at the same stock allocation when valuations went to insanely dangerous levels was irresponsible and foolish. I was forced to put forward the post when the Greaney Goons attacked Wanderer and I was left with no other way of defending the integrity of “my” Retire Early board. Then the Goons attacked me and all other honestzzz posters and I was forced to develop even more courage.

I wish I could just get those darn e-mails out without feeling such emotional anguish over it.

It doesn’t work that way.

I have been doing this for 10 years. It has always been hard. Hard, hard, hard. I always get the job done sooner or later, however. I MUST do the job. I will not pretend that it doesn’t hurt to have people ignore me and hate me and mock me and all the rest. It hurts. But I will not let that stop me. I will do right by my community and work up the courage needed to get this difficult job done to the best of my ability.

That’s myzzz sincere take re this important matter, in any event.

I wish you all the best possible luck in all your future endeavors. Please take good care.

Rob

Filed Under: Intimidation of VII Advocates Tagged With: investor emotions

“Intellectual Work Is 20 Percent of the Work I Have Done Over the Past 10 Years. The Hard Issues Are Emotional Issues.”

October 24, 2012 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to the Goon Central board:

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently put to the Goon Central board:
it’s just that not enough folks have yet been introduced to your insanity profound insights in order to create a tipping point which will make the Hocomania Wave unstoppable!  Yes, it’s a Tipping Point thing.

EVERYONE (including you, Yip!) knows that GRQ is garbage. That’s close to universal.

Virtually no one knew that Buy-and-Hold was GRQ garbage in 1974, when A Random Walk Down Wall Street was published.

We are today living through the transition period from believing as a society that Buy-and-Hold was the first research-based strategy (a perfectly reasonable belief in its day) to understanding that human knowledge was lacking re one critical question in 1974 (that long-term timing always works and in fact is required for any investor hoping to have a realistic hope of long-term investing success) to believing as a society that Buy-and-Hold was rooted in a mistaken understanding of how the market works and that Valuation-Informed Indexing (Buy-and-Hold with the unfortunate GRQ element removed) is the first true research-based strategy. The hold-up is that millions have been done great financial harm by the mistaken belief and saying out loud what we now know causes those people to experience a great deal of emotional pain. Most of us humans have elected to hold back from saying anything, hoping that things will work themselves out somehow. A few of the braver souls (Wade Pfau is in this category, as are Bogle and Bernsteinzz) drop veiled hints. Dropping veiled hints makes sense in that it offers a means to get the truth out without getting your head knocked off. BUT IT DOESN”T GET THE JOB DONE. People have been dropping veiled hints for 30 years and there are still people pushing Buy-and-Hold today, even after the onset of a freakin’ economic crisis. The Rob Bennett take is that we must go BEYOND veiled hints to the Valley of Death where we do the wild thing of reporting the SWR (and lots of other important numbers, to be sure) accurately and honestly. Imagine!

There is not one soul alive who is hurt by us doing this. Even The Stock-Selling Industry is far better off if we do the wild thing. You’d be surprised how much people cut back on stock purchases in a Great Depression! The question is — How do we get from Point A (economic crisis) to Point B (the place where we all want to be in our hearts, where the risk of stock investing is reduced by 70 percent)? That is indeed a Tipping Point question. People want to be able to make a buck telling the truth about stock investing. They don’t want to have people making death threats against them or threatening to get them fired from their jobs. We need to have enough people telling the truth that the idiots (this means you, Yip!) who are making death threats are the ones who feel social pressure, not the good guys trying to help us all. Wade would never have stopped doing honestzzz research if Old Saint Jack had had Lindauer banned from the Bogleheads Forum when Mel first threatened Wade. It was Bogle’s silence that caused Wade to feel pressured to flip to the Goon side. Bogle needs to be made to feel that he cannot get away with associating with Mel Lindauer or those who post in “defense” of him anymore. And of course everyone else needs to feel that way too.

It is not an intellectual problem we face. Intellectual work is 20 percent of the work I have done over the past 10 years. The hard issues are emotional issues. We don’t need more insights, we need more COURAGE. People develop confidence in speaking up when they see others speaking up and being rewarded for it. We need to start rewarding those putting forward research-based strategies and putting the heat on those who pump out GRQ garbage.

Once we hit the tipping point, we have 30 years of insights to mine together. Think where the electronics industry would be if the makers of Pong had had the power back in 1974 to stop all advances in the field because it made them feel bad for people to learn that their product was not the last word in electronic advances? That’s where we are in the investing field. We have seen powerful investing insight after powerful investing insight for 30 years now. But few benefit from the insights because we are all afraid of what the Buy-and-Holders will do to us if we give voice to our sincere beliefs. Once there are enough of us sticking together that the Buy-and-Holders can no longer intimidate us, that comes to an end and we move from economic crisis to the greatest period of economic growth ever experienced in our history.

I cannot wait! (And the full truth is that even you Goons will be glad we made the change once we get over The Big Black Mountain of legal battles and prison sentences and all that sort of thing.)

Rob

Filed Under: Investor Psychology Tagged With: investment theory, investor emotions

“It Does Hurt Me When I Get No Reaction (From Most) or a Hostile Reaction (From the Goons). And the Hurting Slows Down My Efforts to Get the Word Out.”

October 23, 2012 by Rob

Set forth below are the text of some words that I recently posted to the Goon Central board re me efforts to send out 1,000 e-mails letting people know about the Wade Pfau Story:

this very unhealthy turn, of calculated and purposeful escalation of annoyance-on-purpose Providing notice of a coming hurricane drags people down, Drip Guy.

Are the people who tell people in an area about to be hit meanies because they do so?

Most people don’t want to hear this message. I get that loud and clear.

I don’t think I am a meanie for doing what I can to get the word out.

Now —

It does hurt me when I get no reaction (from most) or a hostile reaction (from the Goons). And the hurting slows down my efforts to get the word out as extensively as I should be getting it out. That tells me that, even though I SAY that I don’t view myself as a meanie, there must be some part of me that is buying into the crazy idea that I am. I am one of the humans. I am flawed.

I fight those feelings. That’s the point of this thread.

I have had to fight this battle over and over again over the past 10 years and all signs are that I will be fighting it over and over again in days to come. I’ll win some. I’ll lose some. But if we all go down (I don’t think we will, but I no longer put the odds at zero or at anything close to it), I’ll be able to say that I went down swinging. I HATE it when a guy who can hit gets called out looking.

Today is a small move forward. Tomorrow I might be back where I was yesterday. The next day I might short forward more than I did today. The courage comes and goes. I’m just a reporter reporting to you the story.

My actions are certainly purposeful and calculated and they certainly do annoy. Morningstar was right when they called my words “inflammatory.” I don’t go along with the “unhelpful” part, though. I do this in an effort to be helpful. If you find someone else to take on the job, I’ll step aside. No matter how scared I am, I know someone has to do this job. If no one else steps forward, I will continue to wake up each day with a prayer that I find the courage needed to do it to the best of my ability.

My best wishes to you and yours, in any event.

Rob

Filed Under: Intimidation of VII Advocates Tagged With: investment research, investor emotions, SWRs, Wade Pfau

“The Same Emotional Roadblocks That Make It Hard to Bloggers to Address These Matters Make It Hard for Me to Get the E-Mails Out”

October 22, 2012 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a thread-starter that I put to the Goon Central board:

This is tentative. I think I am beginning to make some slow progress in getting the e-mails out.I should have had hundreds of them out by now.  I think the number was about 12 through yesterday. For today, I think it will be five or six more. No great leap forward. But small movement in the right direction. My hope is that the next week will be better.I believe that the same emotional roadblocks that make it hard for bloggers and blog readers to address these matters frankly make it hard for me to get the e-mails out. We are all social creatures. We don’t like to point out shameful things. Our inclination is to cover them up. We don’t like to hurt people’s feelings. We don’t want people angry at us. This is the wall that must be overcome. It is by breaking down this well that I earn that $500 million.

I know from past experience (and from what I have seen with the first 12 or so this time) that the response rate will be very low. 50 e-mails won’t cut it. I need to get hundreds out. Perhaps thousands. The number needs to be big enough so that even a tiny response rate will yield results.

I may fail in this. The track record is mixed. I have been slow to act re many aspects of this. I always act eventually, though. I don’t quit.

Anyway, that’s the story.

WIsh me luck!

Rob

Filed Under: Investor Psychology Tagged With: investment research, investor emotions, safe withdrawal, Wade Pfau

Rob Bennett’s Responses to Academic Researcher Wade Pfau: #2 — “I Really Don’t Know How You Think You Come Out of This Whole Episode Looking Like the Good Guy”

July 20, 2012 by Rob

My first reaction to this comment of Wade’s is that it is an odd one for an academic researcher to be putting forward. The value of academic research is that those who produce it are given tenure so that they can report honestly what the historical data reveals. Those trying to make a buck in this field are inevitably going to be drawn to doing the popular thing, which often translates into doing the thing that appeals most to the Get Rich Quick urge that exists within all of us. The reason why we turn to academic research for the straight story is that we imagine researchers to be beyond all that. Their jobs are safe. They are not caught up in the dog-eat-dog world of commerce. They are not salesmen. They can tell the truth because they do not need to worry about whether what they say will make them popular or not.

I think it would be fair to say that we have overestimated the extent to which living the life of the academic can insulate one from financial considerations, especially in a field in which there is so much money floating around. Wade has produced amazing research. But he wants its both ways. He wants to produce great research and to be popular too. He wants the links to his blog that go to those who play ball with The Buy-and-Hold Machine. He wants the job referrals that go to those who play ball with the Buy-and-Hold Machine. He wants the applause that goes to those who flatter investors who have bought into the marketing pitches advanced by The Buy-and-Hold Machine.

Make no mistake. I want those things too. I want links. I want job referrals. I want applause. I want bucks.

But I take strong offense at the idea that I need to post dishonestly on the numbers that my friends use to plan their retirements to get those things. I have seen little bits of corruption at every job I have worked, going back to my fast food days. That’s the way it is with the humans. You take that sort of thing in stride. You understand that humans have a lot of good in them and a bit of bad in them as well and you make the best of things as they are. Fine. But I have never experienced anything like what I have experienced in the ten years since I put forward that fateful post of May 13, 2002, pointing out the errors in the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies. What I have seen in the past ten years has been special and in a very, very bad way. Tens of thousands of links are not payment enough to persuade me to betray my friends. And I consider it a fresh insult every time I am asked.

That said, there is a practical point that Wade is making here that is worthy of some consideration.

I am trying to sell something. I am trying to persuade people of the merits of a new investing strategy. No one buys anything from anyone whom he doesn’t like. Gaining the customer’s respect and affection comes first. When they like you and respect you, they listen to your pitch. If your product is good enough, they buy it. If they hate your guts with a burning passion, as many Buy-and-Holders hate my guts with a burning passion, no amount of historical data will win them over.

I need people to like me. Wade is right about that. And Wade needs people to like him. He cannot do the good work he wants to do if people hate him with a burning passion. One of the things he learned during his 16 months of e-mail correspondence with me is that lots of Buy-and-Holders hate me with a burning passion.

Here are some words that Drip Guy wrote to the Bogleheads Forum when Wade posted about his research showing that Valuation-Informed Indexing has provided far higher returns than Buy-and-Hold at greatly reduced risk for the entire 140 years for which we now possess return data: “Since your own work is overtly at odds with the ethos of the board — here, the theme is John Bogle’s philosophy, which eschews market timing — I myself will no longer obliquely support it by giving you a whetstone on which to sharpen your knife. You must certainly know that this very board came into existence in order to ESCAPE the lunatic behaviors of one individual — the very individual with which you have publicly and openly aligned yourself, and who you are openly quoting and sourcing in your column and are forming your intended paper around.  While there is much merit in open discussion of competing, differing, and varied approaches, as to you, sir, I personally will have no more of it here on this forum, given the poison well from which you are now openly drawing your own water.” That’s hate. And there’s a threat implicit in those words. Drip Guy is telling Wade “We will destroy you if you associate with Rob Bennett.” And Wade knows that Drip Guy is prepared to follow through with the threat.

He knows something else. He knows that no one at the Bogleheads Forum is willing to speak up in opposition to the threat. Not John Bogle. Not Bill Bernstein. Not Larry Swedroe. Not Rick Ferri. Not anyone.

If Wade posts honestly on Valuation-Informed Indexing and on my role in developing the concept, he is finished in this field. That’s what his experiences posting at the Bogleheads Forum taught him. I don’t approve of his behavior. But it would not be fair to him to fail to point out that the opposition to anyone who sings my praises is rooted in nothing short of blind rage. If we are to make the transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing and thereby bring this economic crisis to an end, we are going to need to come to a understanding of the cause of that blind rage.

There are three elements.

First, I put forward insights. In ordinary circumstances, that is seen as a good thing. I know that because I put forward many important insights in the days before I posted about investing and I was the most loved poster at the Motley Fool site because of them. Putting forward insights does not by itself cause rage. But in the particular circumstances that apply in the investing realm, it does. The particular circumstances that make something that is ordinarily seen to be a good thing (advancing insights) to become viewed as a very bad thing are contained in the remaining two elements of the story.

The second element is the core of the problem. The insights are of earth-shaking significance. Making the shift to Valuation-Informed Indexing reduces investing risk by 80 percent. Buy-and-Hold caused the economic crisis and making the shift to Valuation-Informed Indexing would bring it to an end. All four economic crises that we have experienced since 1870 were caused by the widespread adoption of the Buy-and-Hold “idea” that there is no need for investors to lower their stock allocations when prices rise to insanely dangerous levels. Once we open the internet to honest posting, millions of middle-class people will be able to retire five to ten years sooner than they imagined was possible during the Buy-and-Hold Era. Valuation-Informed Indexing takes the emotion out of stock investing. It is the first truly research-based investing strategy and the first emotionally balanced investing strategy.

When someone gives you directions to the restaurant you are trying to locate, you thank them. They obviously possess some piece of information about the world that you lacked but you don’t see that as being a big deal. By sharing the information with you, they make your life better. They are doing you a favor! You say “thank you” and you go on your way.

It’s different when someone says you are living your life wrong. You don’t thank someone when they tell you that you married the wrong person. You don’t thank someone when they tell you that you are going about this business of raising your children all wrong. You don’t thank someone when they tell you that you have wasted 20 years of your life doing work for which you are not suited and which has little value in this world. You don’t thank someone when they tell you that your religion is a false one, that you are on the road to hell and you had better make some changes pronto.

We like people who help us out in small ways. We do not like people who offer to shake up our foundations and change our lives around from top to bottom.

I thought I was offering the ordinary sort of insight on the morning of May 13, 2002. I read some things in John Bogle’s book about how stock prices are determined and what I read told me that studies that did not contain adjustments for the valuation level that applies on the day the retirement begins could not possibly get the number right. I told my friends what I thought I had learned. I didn’t do it in even a slightly arrogant way. I didn’t even put forward a declarative statement. I posed a question. I asked my friends at the Motley Fool board: “Should we be considering valuations when calculating safe withdrawal rates?” I obviously believed we should be doing that, but I wasn’t certain and I didn’t pretend to be certain.

So I did nothing offensive. Zero. Nada. Zilch. There are Post Archives. This can be checked.

The problem is that the Buy-and-Holders had formed doubts in their own minds about those Old School safe withdrawal rate studies long before I came on the scene. They didn’t want to think about those doubts. They wanted things to go on as they had been going on during the huge bull. There were implications to what I was saying that they did not want to entertain. They wanted me to drop it and they made that clear. I didn’t want to drop it. I wanted to learn. I took the defensiveness as a sign that there was a lot to learn here. And the more I explored, the more I did learn. I learned amazing things. I generated insight after insight after insight.

In ten years, I revolutionized our understanding of how stock investing works.

I feel like I should apologize for that statement.

None of us are supposed to stand above all the others to that extent. None of us are supposed to be smarter or better or more ethical or whatever.

I cannot apologize. The insights that I have generated are too important. I am happy and proud to have produced them. So no apologies.

I can share credit. That’s honest. I obviously could not have done what I have done without huge amounts of help from people like Robert Shiller and John Bogle and Bill Bernstein and John Walter Russell and Wade Pfau and hundreds of other fine people. By no wild stretch of the imagination am I saying that I produced these amazing insights on my own or that I am smarter or better or more ethical than these other people. But I cannot deny the power of the insights. If our free market system is to survive, we need to make the shift to Valuation-Informed Indexing. I love our economic system. I cannot betray it by pulling a Wade Pfau and doing the popular thing and saying that perhaps Buy-and-Hold is not really all that dangerous, perhaps we will find a way to muddle through without Bogle ever having to say The Three Magic Words (“I” and “Was” and “Wrong”).

I violated a Social Taboo. I did too much. I generated investing insights of far too great a power. I made lots of smart and good and hard-working people look bad by doing so.

I cannot change that. I can offer the hand of kindness to these people. I can praise them to the skies. Because they have achieved things that justify me praising them to the skies. I can say that I love them and respect them and am grateful for all the things they have taught me over the years. But I cannot deny the power of the insights themselves. The insights are our salvation. The insights are the means by which we bring an end to the financial misery we brought on because of the ignorance about how investing works into which we were born and which we have only begun to rise above in recent decades.

People hate that. People are small that way. It’s one of the deficiencies of the humans. Some people will no doubt hate me even more for stating things so frankly here. Again, I cannot apologize. We need to get over the hate and start enjoying the benefits that come from learning about the insights. So it is my job to help interested parties understand where all this hate comes from. It comes from a place in the human psyche that hates, hates, hates, those of us who get too big for our britches. I am no investing expert. I am some guy whose only claim to expertise in this field is that I figured out what buttons to push to get my words to appear on other people’s computer screens. I am not supposed to know things that John Bogle does not know. And I obviously do. And so a good number of people hate me with a burning passion and for ten years now have not been able to give it up.

The third element is that the manner in which I tapped into all these powerful insights makes it seem so darned unfair that I was the one to develop them.

I contacted Dallas Morning News Columnist Scott Burns about my safe-withdrawal-rate findings in February 2005. The first two words of Scott’s response to my e-mail were: “You’re right.” He asked me in that e-mail for my telephone number so that he could interview me for an article. Then he got cold feet. Five months later, he published an article on the SWR findings but did not mention my name or include a link to my New School SWR calculator (“The Retirement Risk Evaluator”). Nor did he note his personal belief that I was right in my criticisms of the Old School studies; he presented the findings as if they had just appeared on the internet somewhere and as if he was not able to verify whether they were solid or not. This strange reaction on Scott’s part led us into an exchange of e-mails in which he offered a number of inappropriate personal comments.

Scott said that my efforts to get the discredited studies corrected would prove to be “catastrophically unproductive.” He said that the enthusiasm I evidenced re my efforts to give investors accurate SWR numbers demonstrated a desire for “personal aggrandizement.” Huh? Why would it be a bad thing to try to get discredited retirement studies corrected? And why would it be a bad thing to develop a calculator that offered access to the correct numbers?

The “problem” was that Scott knew for years that valuations matter. Shiller published his research showing that valuations matter in 1981. Scott was angry that I was using information that had been readily available to him for decades to produce the most powerful investing insights in history. How dare I? That could have been Scott Burns doing that!

Except it would have taken a level of courage that Scott Burns did not possess at that time for Scott Burns to have done that. What we have learned over the past 10 years is that offering good investing advice is not primarily an intellectual endeavor. The thing that makes stock investing hard is that we all possess an inclination to fall for Get Rich Quick strategies, and, once we fall for them, we become emotionally addicted to Get Rich Quick thinking. But we never lose the common sense that tells us that Get Rich Quick approaches always turn out badly in the long run. The true investing experts are not those who promote Buy-and-Hold strategies but those who warn us of their dangers.

The “experts” in this field are envious of Rob Bennett and the mountain of investing insights he has generated over the past 10 years by ignoring the ruthless attacks of The Buy-and-Hold Machine and by following the academic research where it led him. It would be dishonest of me to deny the power of the insights. So that cannot happen. It is the experts who have rationalized their continued promotion of the purest and most dangerous Get Rich Quick scheme ever concocted by the human mind for 30 years after the research showed that there is precisely zero chance that it can ever work for any long-term investor who need to make some changes.

These people are great people. They have a lot to offer. They have done good work in the past. They are smart. They are hard-working. They are good.

But they are going to need to get over their anger and envy and hate if they are to going to continue to do good work in the Valuation-Informed Indexing Era.

My hand is outstretched to all of them. There is nothing I would rather do than to work with them to help the millions of investors who were taken in by the Buy-and-Hold mumbo jumbo to learn what really works.

But I cannot bring about healing by agreeing to post dishonestly about the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies or any other critically important investment-related topic. It is the Buy-and-Holders who got it wrong. It is the Buy-and-Holders who have been behaving uncharitably and in fact shamefully for ten years now. It is the Buy-and-Holders who at this point need to extend the hand of kindness to get us out of the economic crisis brought on by their relentless promotion of dangerous and irresponsible and research-discredited investing strategies.

In the long run, all the ugly stuff will get blown away in the wind. It is the insights we have generated together over the past 10 years that will live on forever. We need to have the smartest people in this field united in their effort to spread knowledge of those insights to every middle-class investor. We need to get over our personal regrets over our earlier bad behavior and move on to better things and better days. All of us have a role in helping the Buy-and-Hold advocates come to recognition of why it is so important that they take that step soon.

We will all be viewed as Good Guys when we make it together to the other side of The Big Black Mountain!

The short version?

Some people need to get over themselves.

Filed Under: Silencing of Wade Pfau Tagged With: investor emotions, Rob Bennett, Wade Pfau

Beyond Buy-and-Hold #82 — It’s Because Investing Is So Important That We Get It So Wrong

April 9, 2012 by Rob

I’ve posted Entry #82 to my weekly Beyond Buy-and-Hold column at the Out of Your Rut site. It’s called It’s Because Investing Is So Important That We Get It So Wrong.

Juicy Excerpt: I can’t tell you how many times I have had people direct this sort of message to me. They tell me “it’s not your message that people object to, Rob, it’s your style.” Or “You can say whatever you want, you just need to use a different tone.” What people mean when they say that my style or tone is wrong is that I report numbers accurately. I don’t say “it is my opinion that stocks may not do well.” I say (when it is so) “there has never yet been a time in U.S.. history when stocks have provided good long-term returns starting from these valuation levels.”

Filed Under: Beyond Buy-and-Hold Tagged With: dominion, investor emotions

ITNR #76 — We Are Stock Drunk

November 5, 2011 by Rob

I’ve posted Entry #76 to my weekly Investing: The New Rules column at the Death by 1,000 Papercuts site. It’s called We Are Stock Drunk.

Juicy Excerpt: He knows that he has a problem. That’s why he lashes out. If he didn’t have a problem, he could laugh off your question. But since he really does have a problem, the question hurts. He knows that he has a problem.

But he doesn’t want to give up the drinking. So he is not about to acknowledge the problem. He denies it vehemently. He knows he can give up the drink anytime. Your friend knows two opposite things.

So it is with stock investors. We know that stocks are priced to crash when they are selling at the prices that have applied from 1996 forward. We’re not dummies. We get that loud and clear.

That’s why we insist that Buy-and-Hold can work and there is no need to lower our stock allocations. We know that our fears are legitimate and thus we do everything we can to banish them from our minds. We know two opposite things — that prices matter big time and that there is no need to lower our allocations when prices rise to insanely high levels.

Filed Under: Investing: The New Rules Tagged With: investor emotions

ITNR #62 — The Green-Eyed Monster

July 18, 2011 by Rob

I’v e posted Entry #62 to my weekly Investing: The New Rules column at the Death by 1,000 Papercuts site. It’s called The Green-Eyed Monster.

Juicy Excerpt:  We don’t like big advances and we don’t like the people who come up with them. We prefercontinuing to believe what we believe today. We are more comfortable with what is than with what could be if we opened our minds to new ideas with the power to change our lives for the good in powerful ways.

We resent improvements. We dislike pioneers. People who promise to do too much to take us too far forward in too short a time make us jealous.

I’m telling it like it is here because we all need to come to terms with the financial damage we have done to ourselves if we are to bring this economic crisis to an end. We need to talk about why it is we are so reluctant to move on to better things. Jealousy of those who came to understand the new ideas before we did is a big factor. I know because I’ve seen such jealousy directed at me on numerous occasions.

Filed Under: Investing: The New Rules Tagged With: investor emotions, jealousy, the green-eyed monster

VII #41 — Emotions Trump Numbers

May 18, 2011 by Rob

I’ve posted Entry #41 to my weekly Valuation-Informed Indexing column at the Value Walk site. It’s called Emotions Trump Numbers.

Juicy Excerpt: The move in recent decades to research-based investment strategies has made investing decisions moreemotional. Lots of us were going with Get Rich Quick choices in the days when we were going with our gut. But now we are going with Get RIch Quick choices that we tell ourselves are backed by the numbers. The phony numbers encourage us to stick with dangerous choices longer than we would if we were not able to kid ourselves into believing that the choices are rooted in science.

Hope lies not in lecturing people to pay attention to the numbers. That doesn’t work when trying to persuade people to eat better and it won’t work when trying to persuade people to invest better either. Emotions trump numbers every time.

What I think might work is developing tools that help make the benefits of following realistic investing strategies tangible.

Filed Under: VII Column Tagged With: behavioral finance, investor emotions

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