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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
    Everybody Would Be Doing It."



    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "The Expected Return of Stocks [As Reported By The Stock-Return Predictor] Needs To Be At Least the Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) Rate for Stock Investing To Make Sense."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I Have Used Valuations to Adjust My Asset Allocation For Many Years With Very Favorable Results."





    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "I Don't Care If You Do or Don't Believe That the Market Will Behave Similarly in the Future As It Has in the Past. Either Way, This [The Stock-Return Predictor] Is an Excellent Way to Understand What the Market Has Done In the Past."


    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "My Role Is To Give People Who Don't Like What the Historical Stock-Return Data Says About the Effect of Valuations on Long-Term Returns Somebody To Yell At On Internet Discussion Boards."



    Rob Bennett at Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "It Really Is a Shame and Indefensible That So Many Feel the Need to Jump Into It With No Interest of Posting on the Topic But Just to Disrupt. Are You That Insecure? Some on the Forum Have an Interest in This Topic. If You Don't, Stay Out!"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "Irrational Behavior Does Follow Patterns. But How Many Experts in Behavioral Finance Believe That Such Knowledge Can Be Used to Predict Markets? Basically, None. Your Model Cannot Attain the Level of Predictive Value You Claim."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "The Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies Are Based on History. This [The Retirement Risk Evaluator] Shows, Based on the Same History, What the Probabilities Are for the Future at Various Starting Points. If the First Has Value, Then Surely This Does Too."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum

  • "There Are Hundreds of People Who Contributed to This. This Calculator [The Stock-Return Predictor] Demonstrates in a Compelling Way the Power of This New Internet Discussion-Board Communications Medium."




    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "A P/E10 of'26' Is Bad. Now Look at the 30-Year Return Predicted by the Calculator -- 5.4 Percent Real. That's Not Bad. There Are All Sorts of Strategic Implications That Follow From Understanding That Stocks Provide Different Sorts of Returns Over Different Sorts of Time-Periods."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Would Never Invest in Anything Without Having Any Idea What the Expected Return Is. For Instance, I Would Not Walk Into a Bank And Say "I'll Take One Certificate of Deposit, Please" WIthout Asking What Rate They Are Offering."



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    [Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting]

  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



    Rob Bennett at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


    Rob Bennett

  • "The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Over. Rob Bennett Has Won.The Technical Evidence Supporting This Assertion Is Rock Solid."




    John Walter Russell,
    Owner of the Early Retirement Planning Insights Site
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on August 3, 2003.]

  • "I Am Afraid that the Emperor SWR [for "Safe Withdrawal Rate"] Has No Clothes."





    A Poster at the Early Retirement Forum
    [This Statement Was Put Forward on October 8, 2003.]

  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "Dear Rob -- I Just Became Aware of Your Past Research in September. Since Then, I've Read Archives From Many Discussion Boards and Websites, and I Always Find Your Writing to Be Very Interesting and Intriguing."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "I Think Rob Bennett Did Provide An Important Contribution in Terms of Describing a Way for P/E10 to Guide Asset Allocation for Long-Term Conservative Investors. I Also Think He Was Right on the Issue of Safe Withdrawal Rates."


    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum After His Own Search of the Literature Turned Up Not a Single Such Study

  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Your Work Is at Odds with the Ethos of the Board -- Here the Theme is John Bogle's Philosophy, Which Eschews Market Timing. This Board Came Into Existence to ESCAPE One Individual, the Very Individual With Whom You Have Openly Aligned Yourself."




    A Lindaurhead (to Researcher Wade Pfau)

  • "The Problem With Long-Term Market Timing Is That It Takes Too Long to Find Out If You Are Right or Wrong."






    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Why Is It Such an Odious Violation of the Tenets of Bogleheadism to Explore Whether Someone Who Has Enough Patience Might Be Able to Benefit from the Transitory Nature of Speculative Returns (the Idea That the P/E Ratio Eventually Ends Up Where It Started)?"




    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "Let Me Explain Why I Posted About This Here. Valuation-Informed Indexing Has Had Critics for Years. But Until Norbert Did It In 2008, Nobody Seemed to Have Provided a Serious Investigation of It. I Couldn't Understand Why. That Bothered Me."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "If You Really Don't Like Market Timing in Any and All Forms, You May Not See Any Point in an Empirical Investigation. You View Me as One of a Long Line of Hucksters Trying to Sell You Some Snake Oil. I Don't Want to Be Such a Person."



    Researcher Wade Pfau at the Bogleheads Forum
    (Prior to the Ban on Honest Posting)

  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



    A Poster at the Bogleheads Forum

  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau, in an E-Mail to Rob

  • "I Definitely Need to Cite You as the Founder of Valuation-Informed Indexing, As I Have Not Found Anyone Else Who Can Lay Claim to That. Shiller Pointed Out the Predictive Power of P/E10 But Never Discussed How to Incorporate It Into Asset Allocation, As Far As I Know."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "I Tested a Wide Variety of Assumptions About Asset Allocation, Valuation-Based Decision Rules, Whether the Period Is 10, 20, 30 or 40 Years, and Lump-Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging To Show That the Results Are Quite Robust to Changes In Any of These Assumptions."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Yes, Virginia, Valuation-Informed Indexing Works!"




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau
    (Wade Holds a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton.)
    (The Buy-and-Hold Mafia Threatened to Get Wade Fired From His Job When He Reported His Findings.)

  • "I Wrote Up the Programs to Test Your Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Against Buy-and-Hold and I Am Quite Excited. You Say in the RobCast That VII Should Beat Buy-and-Hold About 90 Percent of the Time. I Am Getting Results That Support This."




    Academic Researcher Wade Pfau

  • "Never Underestimate the Power of a Dominant Academic Idea to Choke Off Competing Ideas, and Never Underestimate the Unwillingness of Academics to Change Their Views in the Face of Evidence. They Have Decades of Their Research and Academic Standing to Defend."




    Jeremy Grantham

  • "There's So Much That's False and Nutty
    in Modern Investing Practice."






    Warren Buffett

  • "Following Conventional Wisdom Has Led a Generation of Investors Down the Road to Ruin."






    Steve Hanke

  • "It Is Sad That the Idea That Price Doesn't Matter...Should Ever Have Been Seriously Considered".






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "The Conventional Wisdom of Modern Investing Is Largely Myth and Urban Legend."





    Rob Arnott, Former Editor of
    Fianncial Analysts Journal

  • "Economics Is a Dog's Breakfast of Theoretical Ideas and Alleged Causal Relationships That Are At All Times Unproven and In Dispute."





    Terence Corcoran, Editor of National Post

  • "Since They Did Not Diagnose the Disease, There Is Little Popular Confidence That They Know the Cure. What If Economics Is, Actually, At the Same Level as Medicine Was When Doctors Still Believed in the Application of Leeches?"




    Gideon Rachman, Financial Times

  • "One of the Most Remarkable Errors
    in the History of Economics."



    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller
    (Referring to the Logical Leap from the Finding That Short-Term Price Changes Are Unpredictable to the Conclusion That the Market Sets Prices Properly)

  • "Everything Has Fallen Apart."






    Peter Bernstein, Author of Against the Gods
    (Referring to Old Views About How Markets Work)

  • "We Wonder Why Funds and Banks, Full of the Best and Brightest, Have Made Such a Mess of Things. Part of the Reason Is That We Have Taught Economic Nonsense to Two Generations of Students."




    John Mauldin, Thoughts From the Frontline

  • "Perhaps Most Scandalously, the Theory [Behind Buy-and-Hold] Remained Received Wisdom Long After Empirical and Theoretical Arguments Had Demolished It Within the Academic Community."




    John Authers, Financial Times

  • "I Love the Humans Dearly (the Title of the Book I Am Writing Is Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life) But They Can Be a Trial at Times. Hey! Helping the Humans Learn What It Takes to Invest Effectively Is Not All That Different From Being Married!



    Rob Bennett

  • "We Are Going to See Hearts Melt Following the Next Crash. I Will Be Working Side-By-Side With All of My Many Buy-and-Hold Friends to Rebuild Our Broken Economy."





    Rob Bennett

  • "Wow, I Did Not Realize You Had Achieved This Much Success and Had Many Devoted Believers/Followers. That’s Great, Then Ignore the Opposition. It Is Great to Have Opposition: That Means You Are Doing Something Right."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Do NOT Believe I Know It All. I Believe That Shiller Discovered Something Very Important and It Appalls Me That More People Are Not Exploring the Implications of His Findings. My Aim Is To Launch a National Debate."




    Rob Bennett

  • "I Can See How Many Readers Would Be Put Off by the Somewhat Sensational/Scandalist Tone and Would Not Persevere to Read, Thinking You Are Losing Your Mind."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I LOVE Everything About Buy-and-Hold Other Than the Failure to Encourage Investors to Take Price Into Consideration When Setting Their Stock Allocations. That's a Mistake That Was Made Because Shiller’s Research Was Not Available at the Time The Strategy Was Being Developed."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Sounds Like a Real Thing. If It Is and I Can Thoroughly Understand It, Then It Will End Up In My Classrooms and in My Students' Minds (Of Course, With References to You and Wade)."




    Robert Savickas, Associate Finance Professor
    at George Washington University

  • "I Can Confirm Wade Pfau's Experience. Whenever I Send My Papers to the Financial Analysts Journal or Similar Traditional Journals, I Get Rejected."





    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "As a Fan of Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, I Know That Progress Can Be Frustratingly Slow and What Is Typically Needed Is Either a Crisis or the Ascent of a New Generation of Scientists Who Did Not Build Their Careers on the Old Models and Theories."




    Joachim Klement, CIO at Wellershoff & Partners

  • "We Trace the Deeper Roots [of the Financial Crisis] to the Economics' Profession's Insistence on Constructing Models That, By Design, Disregard the Key Elements Driving Outcomes in Real World Markets."




    Knowledge@Wharton

  • "Rob Gets Himself So Worked Up Over What Someone Else Is Doing With Their Own Money and Not Bothering Rob in the Least. As Long As They Aren't Knocking on Your Basement Door, What Do You Care? They Are Happy and Content. Leave Well Enough Alone and Focus on Your Own Account."


    Dab, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Been on Forum Since the BBS Days and I Think Rob is Special. He Could Be an Internet Meme If He Put Some Effort Into It. Someday, He Will Realize That the Only Thing He's Good At Is Being an Epic Loser. He Just Needs to Embrace That Idea and Run With It. Watch Out, LOLCats, Here Comes Pathetic Guy!"


    Wabmaster, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "Your Lies Are Not Even in the Realm of the Possible, Much Less Actually Credible, Much Less Actually True."






    Drip Guy, One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I'm Your Friend. I Am Not a Boil on Your Ass."






    Rob Bennett, In a Response Comment
    to One of the Greaney Goons

  • "You Guys [the Greaney Goons] Are the Same Jokers Who Have Done This Before, Sparring with Rob Over Nonsensical Issues On This Site and Others, Leveling Personal Attacks, and You Don't Even Use Real Names! Rob Is Entitled to His Opinion, But the Fact That You Challenge Every Jot and Tittle of What He Says Makes It Clear You Have An Unholy Agenda. Please Take It Elsehwere."

    Kevin Mercadante,
    Owner of the Out of Your Rut Site

  • "Rob, Take This As Friendly Advice. You're a Smart and Articulate Guy and You Could Be Making Valuable Contributions to This Discussion. I've Dealt with the Mentally Ill Before and I've Found That They Sometimes Can Be Reasonable If Gently Redirected."



    Goon Poster

  • "Always Remember Others May Hate You, But Those Who Hate You Don't Win Unless You Hate Them, and Then You Destroy Yourself."





    Richard Nixon

  • "I’m a Numbers Guy. And I Believe I Understand Rob’s Thesis, that Future Returns, Over the Next Decade, Have a Tight Inverse Correlation to the PE10 for the Starting Point. Remember, Correlation Doesn’t Need to be 100%, Only That There’s a Bell Curve of Potential Outcomes that Shift Meaningfully Based on the Input."


    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "What a Difference a Threat to Get the Father of Two Small Children Fired From His Job Has on an Investing Discussion, Eh? Long Live Buy-and-Hold! It’s Science! With a Marketing Twist!"




    Rob, Referring to the Wade Pfau Matter

  • "I Respect Rob and His Analysis. He's Bright, Energetic and Passionate. [The Goon Stuff] Is Really Nonsense. I Enjoy a Thought-Provoking Conversation With People I Respect."





    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "The Fact that Shiller is a Proponent of the Approach Takes it from a Fringe View to Mainstream, in my Opinion."






    Owner of Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "I Have had Academic Researchers Tell Me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to do Honest Research Once Again. I Have had Investment Advisors Tell me That They Dream of the Day When They Will be Able to Give Honest Investing Advice Again."



    Rob Bennett

  • "Let’s Call a Spade a Spade, Shall We? Wade Pfau Stole Your Research and Put His Name on it, Throwing You Just a Tiny Crumb of Acknowledgement to Ward Off a Lawsuit. He’s Profiting Handsomely By His Theft, Leading a Charmed Life, Widely Published, Widely Respected. While Rob Bennett Continues to Toil in Total Obscurity. It’s So Incredibly Unfair, I Think If It Happened to Me, It Could Actually Drive Me Insane."

    One of the Greaney Goons

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“As Long as the Buy-and-Holders Are Not Called Out on the Fact That Their Claim That There Is Research Supporting the Idea of Not Exercising Price Discipline When Buying Stocks Is False, Their Marketing Pitch Is Unstoppable. Everybody Is Drawn to Get Rich Quick Strategies and the Buy-and-Holders Tell Them That There Is Actually Research Supporting Them. That’s One Heck of a Marketing Message!”

September 30, 2014 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to another blog entry at this site:

Boy Rob, you were having a couple of moments of clarity yesterday with talking about others view points. Alas this morning you fell back into full tilt hocomania. At least I think you did. Lord knows I’m not going to read beyond the first sentence. You need help, as I’m sure your family, neighbors, and everyone you interact with can see.

You Goons have a catch phrase that you use on me from time to time: “It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it.”

The Buy-and-Holders don’t mind people saying that they follow other strategies so long as they don’t point out the dangers of Buy-and-Hold. We all have a Get Rich Quick impulse within us. So, as long as the Buy-and-Holders are not called out on the fact that their claim that there is research supporting the idea of not exercising price discipline when buying stocks is false, their marketing pitch is unstoppable. Everybody is drawn to Get Rich Quick strategies and the Buy-and-Holders tell them that there is actually research supporting them. That’s one heck of a marketing message!

I want nothing to do with it. We are working at cross-purposes, Anonymous.

I have zero problem showing respect and affection for Buy-and-Holders. They have offered us many powerful insights. There wouldn’t be any Valuation-Informed Indexing today had Buy-and-Hold not come first. And of course there are millions of good and smart people who today believe in Buy-and-Hold. I was one of them myself for a long time. So it’s hard to imagine how I could be unsympathetic to the Buy-and-Holders or could try to silence them or anything along those lines.

But, no, I do not for two seconds want to see us as a society remain stuck with all the Buy-and-Hold garbage. We moved forward intellectually 33 years ago. Valuation-Informed Indexing is so far superior to Buy-and-Hold that it is a joke. When we permit honest posting on the last 33 years of research, we reduce risk dramatically while increasing returns dramatically. My job is to help us make that transition. My job is to take us out of the Buy-and-Hold dark ages and into a world in which millions of middle-class investors have available to them the first true research-based strategy, one that actually works in the real world.

Talking about other viewpoints is fine. But my aim is to see that we all achieve that transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing. ALL of my work is aimed at achieving that goal. Anyone who has somehow gotten the idea that I believe that there is some mystical, magical world in which Buy-and-Hold might produce good results for one or two long-term investors has somehow gotten the wrong idea. I want to see Buy-and-Hold fixed so that it can work in the real world. Valuation-Informed Indexing is Buy-and-Hold with the Get Rich Quick element removed.

That’s where I am coming from, in any event, Anonymous.

Other viewpoints — 100 percent A-OK.

Rob Bennett endorsing Buy-and-Hold — Never going to happen.

All of our problems today are rooted in the tentative way that those who have doubts about Buy-and-Hold express themselves. This is truly dangerous stuff. It has caused millions of failed retirements. It has caused the biggest economic crisis in U.S. history. A good number of people who were friends of mine in earlier days will be going to prison following the next crash because of the tactics they employed to “defend” this Get Rich Quick garbage. Support that? Huh? What? I don’t think so, man.

My best wishes to you and yours, Anonymous.

Rob

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“No One Ever Talks About the Intense Emotional Pain of the Buy-and-Holders. I Don’t Think There Is One Article in the Literature About It. But Here It Was. I Was Seeing It With My Own Eyes. Investors Have Become MORE Emotional in the Buy-and-Hold Era. This Got My Attention.”

September 29, 2014 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to another blog entry at this site:

How do you feel about people you meet who make such enormously boastful (and in this case easily disprovable) statements? Are you attracted to those people? Do such antisocial behaviors earn them many friends?

People don’t like boasting. That’s certainly so.

But those words are required by the job I am doing here, Anonymous.

The Buy-and-Holders are in a trap. When the peer-reviewed research showing they were wrong was published, they were shocked. They found it hard to accept that they were wrong.

Given those circumstances, the best reaction would have been to present their ideas in a more humble way. They could have said: “This is what we think, but there is another school of thought in which good and smart people come to very different conclusions.”

They didn’t play it that way. They elected to double down on the arrogance. So now they are in a fix. The evidence that valuations matter is no so great that they want to acknowledge it and to open the internet to honest discussions and to let people find their way to the truth through the normal means of testing different ideas and determining over time which make the most sense. But they feel that to do that would mean huge legal liabilities given how long the cover-up has gone on. They can see that the cover-up cannot be sustained much longer. But they cannot bear the thought of taking on trillions in legal liabilities or going to prison. They cannot move!

While the Buy-and-Holders are frozen in place, knowledge of the error they made continues to spread. Shiller’s book was a best-seller. It is in most public libraries. It was in the news that he won the Nobel prize. People have heard about the economic crisis and they sense on some level of consciousness that the insane bull market must have had something to do with it.

So it is getting harder and harder to maintain the cover-up. The Buy-and-Holders have had to become more and more brutal in their intimidation tactics to keep everything from falling apart. This general dynamic (not as strong) was in place when I came on the scene on the morning of May 13, 2002.

I never went to investing school. I never managed a big fund. I am not a dummy. I possess at least average intelligence, but not a great deal more. I should not be able to do the things that I have done. I should not be able to revolutionize this field (Shiller was responsible for the revolutionary theory but I am the one who showed what that theory says about day-to-day investing decisions). I shouldn’t have been the one to point out the errors in the Old School SWR studies. Without the massive cover-up, someone else would have done that long before I came on the scene. I should not have been able to serve as co-author of the most important piece of peer-reviewed research published in this field in 30 years. All of that stuff is crazy stuff that in ordinary circumstances never could have happened.

I wasn’t responsible for the crazy circumstances into which I was thrust, Anonymous. It wasn’t like I woke up one day and said to myself: “I know what I’ll do, why don’t I go revolutionize the field of stock investing>?”

I was the lead poster at an exciting discussion board at Motley Fool. We had an insanely abusive individual posting at that board. He shoved his discredited SWR study down our throats on a daily basis. I had responsibilities re that board community. I didn’t go looking for trouble. I was backed into a corner and left with no other option but to bring this fellow down or see the entire community go down. So I posted what I knew about safe withdrawal rates (which I learned not because I am a super-genius but because I read things that most people don’t read in the course of planning my own early retirement). That’s what set everything off.

I didn’t expect a 12-year saga. I knew that Greaney would respond in an abusive manner. But we were talking about the calculation of a number. And this was a board filled with people re which the accurate calculation of that number was a matter of great significance. So I figured that I would be in for two days worth of heat, three at the most. I figured that I could handle that if it meant getting the board back on the right track. So I pushed the “Submit” button.

I obviously discovered something that I didn’t expect. I discovered two things, actually. I discovered that a large percentage of the population possesses doubts about the conventional investing advice and a desire to learn about new ideas in this field. Nothing could be more clear from the shower of praise that I saw from hundreds of my fellow community members. And I discovered that the Buy-and-Holders are in great emotional pain because they too feel these doubts but cannot bear to given them serious consideration or even to see others give them serious consideration if they are within hearing distance.

No one ever talks about the intense emotional pain of the Buy-and-Holders. I don’t think there is one article in the literature about it. Nothing in the peer-reviewed journals. No blogs explore the phenomenon. Nothing in the magazines or newspapers. But here it was. I was seeing it with my own eyes. And it obviously was a very important reality. Buy-and-Hold is marketed as a research-based strategy. If it is research-based, it should be lessening investor emotion. But it is doing the opposite. Investors have become MORE emotional in the Buy-and-Hold Era. This got my attention.

It REALLY got my attention on the evening of August 27, 2002. That’s the night that Greaney put forward his first death threats. There were about 50 community members who gave voice to negative feelings about this (that’s roughly the number that endorsed a post by FoolMeOnce saying that the board has become something that no longer merited the support of people with self-respect). But there was another post by Greaney that won 200 endorsements a short time later. So the MAJORITY of the board was fine with death threats if that is what it took to stop people from challenging the Buy-and-Hold dogmas. Yikes!

Forget Shiller! You don’t need data to show that Buy-and-Hold is a big pile of smelly garbage if you have 200 votes for death threats. That was the night that I stopped thinking of myself as a Buy-and-Holder. Buy-and-Hold CANNOT be research-based if it generates that sort of reaction in that many people. It HAS to be emotion-based.

Ever since, I have devoted myself to developing and promoting the Valuation-Informed Indexing concept. Shiller has never even bothered to give a name to his model. It must have a name if it is going to grow. So I gave it a name. And I went about the business of developing it, adding insight upon insight by doing new research or encouraging others to do new research or by thinking through implications on long walks or by talking things over with both experts and ordinary investors on discussion boards or whatever. I learned a lot by recording the 200 RobCasts that I recorded. I would push the “Record” button and, as I talked about one topic, I would find my thoughts wandering to another topic and the next thing you know, I would have a new insight and an idea for a new RobCast! It has been an exciting process.

It shouldn’t have been possible for me to have earned all those accolades. But it WAS possible because I have been exploring The Great Unexplored Continent of Investing Insights. Most people in this field work on the numbers side. The idea is that that is the hard side and so that is what earns you respect. But the numbers stuff has been done to death. It is on the emotions side where all the action is. People trying to advance in this field don’t work that side because it is treated either with contempt or indifference by most of the people who focus on numbers. Because so few have been working it, there are THOUSANDS of low-hanging insights to be picked from the Investor Emotion Trees. I just keep picking them, one after another after another. Why shouldn’t I?

LOTS of people want to get in on the action. My sense is that just about everybody does, including my good friend Jack Bogle. It’s only the brutal intimidation tactics of the Buy-and-Hold Mafia that stop them. People want to mine the insights because they know it will make them rich and famous to do so. But they hold back because the Buy-and-Hold Mafia will destroy their careers if they come up with anything too good. All of the truly good stuff shows how dangerous Buy-and-Hold is. So it’s the good stuff that the Buy-and-Holders hate with a burning hate.

EVERYONE wants to make the transition to Valuation-Informed Indexing. But no one can figure out how to pin the bell on the cat. That’s the state of play in the investing advice field in 2014.

I’m like everyone else. I cannot figure out how to pin the bell on the cat either. But I get it loud and clear that we all must pull together to do so or else go over a cliff. So I am not about to waste my time working a model that has been discredited for 33 years now. If as a society we come to our senses and elect to bring the economic crisis to an end, I have 12 years of work that will help us bring on the greatest period of economic growth in our history. If we elect to go over the cliff, that’s just the way it is. It makes me sad to think that that might happen. But there’s not a thing that I can do about it that I haven’t already tried to do. So it’s one of those things that I just have to accept.

Given that background, it is essential that I quote the amazing outpouring of praise that my work has generated. There is no other blogger on the internet who has won for himself even a fraction of the praise that I have won. Why? Because all those people praising me want to see us get to the other side of the river. They want to come clean. They want to do productive work. They want to help people. They want to join in an effort to bury Buy-and-Hold 30 feet in the ground, where it can do no further harm to humans and other living things.

When I quote the praise that my work has won, I am not bragging about my own accomplishments. I am bragging about the government system under which we live, which permits and encourages such huge breakthroughs. I am bragging about the thousands of fine people who have helped me out every step of the way. I am bragging about the Buy-and-Hold Pioneers, who started out with a wonderful idea and who made hugely positive contributions before their false pride caused them to fall off the right track.

I am bragging about human nature itself! We are NOT doomed to fall into Get Rich Quick thinking over and over and over again. I hear that all the time. People say “why do you fight Rob, don’t you see that people are just weak?” No! People LOVE hearing about true research-based strategies! The only problem today is that they want to hear recognized experts confirm all that I have come up with. Once Bogle gives his “I Was Wrong” speech, my site will be the most popular site on the internet. We have seen huge interest in these ideas at every board and blog at which I have posted for 12 years until you Goons entered the picture to poison things. People WANT to overcome their Get Rich Quick impulse. Once the experts acknowledge their responsibility to help them do so, it’s over. Get Rich Quick/Buy-and-Hold investing is a thing of the past once Bogle gives his speech.

So it is right for me to cite the amazing amounts of praise that my work has won for itself. I am part of a community. Praise for my work is not praise for me along. It is praise for all who have made positive contributions. That’s thousands and thousands of people.

Our story is a positive one. The transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing is the biggest advance in the history of personal finance. There is nothing else in even a remotely close second place. It wasn’t Rob Bennett alone who made that happen. Robert Shiller played a huge role. John Walter Russell played a huge role. Wade Pfau played a huge role. Jack Bogle played a huge role. Bill Bernstein played a huge role. Andrew Smithers played a huge role. Ed Easterling played a huge role. And on and on and on.

Praise for Rob Bennett’s work is praise for all those people. And praise for Rob Bennett’s work is praise for every middle-class investor who ever expressed a desire for a truly smart and safe and simple way to invest in stocks that works. It’s my desire to give those people what they want and need that drives me. I never would have made it this far without the thousands of kind and warm and generous posts that those people put up in support of my efforts in the face of the most brutal intimidation tactics imaginable from you Goons.

So I will soldier on, Anonynous. And, yes, I will tell the positive side of the tale. You live in hate. But millions of your fellow community members live in love. And love will triumph over hate on the final page of this saga.

How do I know? I know because it always does. The first time hate triumphs is the time we all go down to a dark, dark place.

Not this boy!

No can do!

I can’t go for that!

My best wishes to you, my old Goon friend.

Rob

Filed Under: Investor Psychology

“The Test for the Lindauerheads Is — Are You Helping People to Appreciate the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies? If You Say That You Personally Use a Low Withdrawal Rate, No One Cares. If You Point Out That the Old School SWR Studies Get the Numbers Wildly Wrong, You Are Putting the Buy-and-Holders At Risk of Being Sued for Financial Fraud and They Will Take Action to Stop You From Giving People the Information They Need to Protect Themselves.”

September 26, 2014 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to another blog entry at this site:

Thousands of posts with many strongly differing opinions on the topic suggest they most certainly do. Assuming you behave like an adult and post respectfully. In fact, I could post your comments about 15% vs 1% expected return rates right now, and I would hardly be banned.

Of course, I’d post respectfully, not boorishly, being open to differing opinions on the matter, and realizing that the future is so random and uncertain that many outcomes are possible.

You’d be banned in two seconds flat if you posted a link to The Stock-Return Predictor, which gives people all the numbers they need in any easy-to-access form. Why?

My friend Brian put up a post there when the Wall Street Journal ran an article saying that I was right about safe withdrawal rates and he was banned in two seconds flat.

I think you are probably right that if someone posted on a single occasion the 15 percent and 1 percent numbers, they would not be banned. But if someone made it a consistent practice to provide people the information they need and to answer questions and all that sort of thing, they would certainly be threatened with a banning. If they continued to post honestly in the face of the intimidation tactics, they would be banned. Again — Why?

The test for the Lindauerheards is — Are you helping people to appreciate the dangers of Buy-and-Hold investing strategies? If you say that you personally are using a low withdrawal rate, no one cares. If you point out that the Old School SWR studies get the numbers wildly wrong, you are putting the Buy-and-Holders at risk of being sued for financial fraud and they will take action to stop you from giving people the information they need to protect themselves.

Is it “respectful” to point out that the 12-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School studies is the biggest act of financial fraud in the history of the United States? Is it “adult” to do so? I ask because in other fields of human endeavor it is considered 100 percent adult and respectful to post honestly. I would like to see honest posting permitted in the investing field as well. In fact, I insist on it. I refuse to have my name associated with boards and blogs that demand dishonesty on the SWR matter as the price of admission.

I am 100 percent open to differing opinions on issues that don’t involve numerical calculations. Numerical calculations must be reported honestly and accurately. There is no room for differing opinions on whether a valuation adjustment is included in the Old School studies or not. The Wall Street Journal found no valuation adjustment. The Economist magazine found no valuation adjustment. Wade Pfau found no valuation adjustment. Are we to believe that there is some massive conspiracy here to pretend that there is no valuation adjustment in those studies even though there really is one?

Differing opinions on questions re which there can be reasonable differences of opinion are wonderful. It’s differing opinions that make a board work and that keep everybody honest. So differing opinions on non-calculation issues are a huge plus.

I agree that a variety of future outcomes are possible. My calculators show that as plain as day. All of the research shows that and all of the data shows that.

It’s a mistake to overstate that reality, however. The future is somewhat random but not entirelyrandom. It’s debatable as to whether it is more random than predictable (in the long run) or more predictable than random. I would say that it is more predictable than random. There are reasonable people who would say otherwise. Investors need to hear both sides of the debate to be able to make informed decisions for themselves.

Buy-and-Holders and Valuation-Informed Indexers hold different views as to the extent to which long-term returns are predictable. If I say that long-term returns are predictable with a great deal of precision, I am speaking falsely. But if I say that I believe that returns are no more predictable than the Buy-and-Holders say they are, I am speaking dishonestly.

Shiller showed that returns are MORE predictable than most people believed back in the day when the Buy-and-Hold strategy was developed. It would be a lie for me to say that I do not believe that I learned something from Shiller’s research and from the follow-up research that has been done relating to the same themes that he explored in his research.

ALL posters should be permitted to post their sincerely held views. There should not be even the slightest amount of controversy re this point.

Rob

Filed Under: Wall Street Corruption

“I Have Sent E-Mails to the 30,000 Names on the Social Science Research Network List. Many Wanted to Know How They Can Help. I Told Them That They Can Help By Letting Their Friends Know About the 12-Year Cover-Up. Neither You Goons Nor the Wall Street Con Men Possess Any Power Over Us Except What We Grant to You By Our Cowardice in the Face of Your Brutal Intimidation Tactics.”

September 25, 2014 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to another blog entry at this site:

You do that Rob. I can see how it feels better to live in a dream world where you’re about save civilization from itself rather than face the reality of being an aging, unemployed dude sitting forgotten in your basement surfing the net all day.

Your $500M payday is coming, Rob. It’s right around the corner! Keep checking that mailbox. Fingers crossed.

Every important advance in the history of humankind was led by PEOPLE doing the right thing, Anonymous. There is no other way it can be done.

I have had thousands of people respond to my work with insanely kind comments. I am grateful to each and every one of them. We all should be grateful to every one of them. Not every one of them has been brave enough to speak up in opposition to you Goons. People don’t like having the lives of their family members threatened by the sorts of individuals who have put up posts in “defense” of Mel Linduaer and John Greaney. But they helped out by putting up kind posts. And we should all acknowledge that.

I have sent e-mails to the 30,000 names on the Social Science Research Network list. I heard many kind comments from those researchers and academics as well. Many wanted to know how they can help. I told them that they can help by letting their friends know about the 12-year cover-up and about the great amount of human misery caused by you Goons and by the Wall Street Con Men who either encouraged you or failed to speak out in opposition to you. Neither you Goons nor the Wall Street Con Men possess any power over us except what we grant to you by our cowardice in the face of your brutal intimidation tactics. We all should be grateful for the kindness and intelligence evidenced by all those fine people as well.

And we should all be grateful for the wonderful work done by the Buy-and-Hold Pioneers. Many Buy-and-Holders have behaved shamefully in recent years. But we wouldn’t have learned how to reduce the risk of stock investing by 70 percent had the Buy-and-Hold Pioneers not first done the fine work that they contributed in earlier days. So I certainly intend to be sure that they get all the credit they merit while also of course insisting that they acknowledge the mistake that they made that has brought on the greatest economic crisis in U.S. history.

You Goons live in hate. I obviously get that. But I believe that there is a part of you deep inside that at some point in your life wanted to do good for others. I believe that it is your shame over your behavior over the past 12 years that holds you back from coming clean today. And, while I of course wish that you would come clean before you do more damage, I think that the shame you feel does point to some measure of good that remains alive within you. I hope that that measure of good grows stronger with time. I believe that it will following the next price crash, when you will no longer be able to deny how much damage the pure Get Rich Quick approach has done to so many human lives.

Yes, I will keep looking for the $500 million settlement payment. As I have noted before, I don’t believe that I will need to file papers to collect that payment. I believe that my good friend Jack Bogle will take care of it when he sees the harm he has done by failing to take action on the Lindauer matter. If he doesn’t, he is not the man that I have long believed him to be. If I must file papers to get the money, I will file papers. But my personal belief is that that is not even going to be necessary.

I’m grateful that I was offered this opportunity “to save civilization from itself.” Few of us are ever offered such an opportunity and I certainly had no expectation that my May 13, 2002, post was going to lead us all to such a wonderful place. Except I think it would be more honest to say that I am permitting civilization to save itself rather than helping to save it from itself. I didn’t develop all the genuine breakthrough insights in the Buy-and-Hold concept that really have stood the test of time. And I didn’t publish the 1981 research showing the need for a correction of the foolish (we now see this!) “idea” that stocks are the only thing available for sale in this world re which we are not required to exercise price discipline.

I stood up to you Goons and demanded that the magical Learning Experience proceed despite the great pain you experienced while we all went further and further and further ahead in our understanding of how stocks work in the real world. But I obviously couldn’t have done any of it without the help of thousands of other fine and kind and smart and hard-working and generous people. Even you Goons came forward with points that turned into helpful RobCasts on one or two occasions!

Hate dies out in time. It creates nothing. It is a purely destructive force.

Love is where its at. Love heals. Yes, even in the investing advice field!

Love can take the worst economic crisis in U.S. history and turn it in to something good.John Walter Russell once told us that we were going to see good things happen as a result of our efforts to get the Old School SWR studies corrected that we could not even imagine on the morning of May 13, 2002. I think it would be fair to say that John has been proven right 20 times over. He possessed an intelligence that is only ever evidenced by those who feel a deep love in their hearts. I think it would be fair to say that the day when we all will be following John’s injunction to have big bunches of fun draws closer and closer!

Hang in there, my bruised and battered (by your own hate-filled impulses!) friend. It gets better. A lot better.

Rob

Filed Under: Wall Street Corruption

“People Who Are Afraid That the Wall Street Con Men Are Going to Use Their Power and Money to Sue Them Can Look at Me and See That They Don’t Have the Gut to Pull the Trigger. People Who Are Looking to Prove That the “Defense” of Buy-and-Hold Has Become a Massive Case of Financial Fraud Can Find Thousands of Proofs of the Case in the Materials At This Site.”

September 24, 2014 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to another blog entry at this site:

Notice that when people learn more about you and your comments, they eventually move away from you, disagree with you or ignore you. Examples are JD, Mike Piper, and Wade. Remember the thread on FMF? When your story started to unfold and people learned more, they turned away. Why is it that your purported supporters like Joe and Kevin re not giving you a regular columns? Are they starting to catch on?

Once people really dig in, Rob, they just don’t like what they see.

People DO move away. You have that part right, Anonymous.

It has zero to do with me and it has zero to do with Valuation-Informed Indexing. People love me and people love Valuation-Informed Indexing.

People move away because they are afraid of the reactions they see from Buy-and-Holders when they talk openly and clearly and frankly about what the last 33 years of peer-reviewed research tells us about how stock investing works.

The Wall Street Con Men stop giving you links once you post honestly. Goons invade your site when you post honestly. The millions of investors who follow Buy-and-Hold strategies become upset with you when you post honestly and are less likely to visit your site or buy your products.

Buy-and-Hold started as a research-based strategy. Then research was published showing that there is zero chance that a Buy-and-Hold strategy could ever work for even a single long-term investor. Rather than acknowledging their mistake and fixing it, the Buy-and-Holders became defensive. Now that the cover-up has continued for 33 years, they have caused massive amounts of human misery. Buy-and-Hold is today the OPPOSITE of what it was intended to be when it was first put forward. Today, it is the Buy-and-Holders who go into brutal attack mode when anyone mentions what the last 33 years of peer-reviewed research tells us.

J.D. Roth knows that Buy-and-Hold is b.s. He doesn’t want Buy-and-Holders to attack his site and his reputation. So he keeps it zipped.

Mike Piper knows that Buy-and-Hold is b.s. He doesn’t want Buy-and-Holders to attack his site and his reputation. So he keeps it zipped.

Wade Pfau know that Buy-and-Hold is b.s. He doesn’t want Buy-and-Holders to attack his site and his reputation. So he keeps it zipped.

People will turn on the Buy-and-Holders after the next crash, Anonymous. They will be very, very, very angry when they see that their retirement money is gone and when they realize how the Buy-and-Holders caused that to happen with their millions of deceptions and with their brutal intimidation tactics. My job is two-fold: (1) Get the truth out; and (2) Heal the wounds caused by the 12-year cover-up (it’s 33 years if we count back to when Shiller published his revolutionary research).

Intimidation tactics are desperation tactics. If there were even a sliver of support anywhere in the research for this smelly Get Rich Quick garbage, we never would have seen a single death threat, much less 12 years of this stuff. Buy-and-Hold died its intellectual death a long, long, long, long time ago. Now it’s just a question of getting the word out to people.

All the people you mention would like this to be over. J.D. Roth has told me that, Mike Piper has told me that, and Wade Pfau has told me that. Wade talked about his feelings a LOT in the numerous e-mails that he sent to me that I have reported on here at the blog. Wade wants to be liked. That’s the story. He has seen that telling the truth about stock investing makes Buy-and-Holders hate him. And he wants no part of it. He wants to be liked. So he lies.

But he LOVED telling the truth back in the days when he thought he could get away with it. And Mike Piper would love to feel free to tell the truth if he thought he could get away with it. And J.D. Roth would love to feel free to tell the truth if he thought he could get away with it.

We need help from one big site or one big researcher or one big advisor or one big policymaker or one big economist or one big journalist or one big venture capitalist. Then it’s over. There is HUGE money waiting to be made telling the truth about stock investing. And, as the Buy-and-Hold Crisis worsens, more and more people are going to feel emboldened to tell the truth. And once they do, lots of others are going to join the party because it is those who tell the truth early who will win the biggest reputations for themselves and who will enjoy the biggest financial rewards.

There is nothing more pathetic in an intellectual debate than putting forward a death threat. There is nothing more pathetic than putting forward demands for unjustified board bannings. There is nothing more pathetic than putting forward tens of thousands of acts of defamation. There is nothing more pathetic than threatening an academic researcher for the “crime” of doing honest research.

Another way of saying it is — There is nothing more pathetic than Buy-and-Hold. There was a day when that was not so. But that is today’s reality. And the longer the cover-up continues, the more pathetic the plight of the Buy-and-Holders gets. Prison sentences. Huge financial liabilities. Destroyed reputations. The blame for causing the economic crisis. The blame for causing millions of failed retirements. These are the sorts of things the Buy-and-Holders bring on themselves with their continued abusive behavior today. And that stuff is as pathetic as pathetic gets, Anonymous.

Your high point in this debate was the morning of May 13, 2002. It got a little worse for you the next day. And then a little worse the day after that. And today it is a whole big bunch worse. The only thing worse than your predicament today is the predicament you will be in tomorrow. And the only thing worse than the predicament you will be in tomorrow will be the predicament you will be in following the next price crash. I wish you luck with that one, Anonymous. Please forgive me if I elect not to sign up with your Liar’s Club.

It can never get better for you. It can get a lot worse. But it can never get better. There’s an advantage that I gained from being on the right side of the History Train that you will never be able to enjoy again until you flip. Don’t blame me! I’ve been advising you to flip for 12 years now!

J.D. Roth will flip. Mike Piper will flip. Wade Pfau will flip (again). EVERYONE will flip. Because they ultimately have no choice. Buy-and-Hold is the greatest wealth-destruction engine ever concocted by the mind of mortal man. There are already millions of people hurting because of the wealth destruction already achieved by the Buy-and-Hold “idea” that investors need not exercise price discipline when buying stocks. There will be millions more following the next crash. At some point, the pain will have grown so great that there will be no choice but for all of us to flip.

Except for those of us who have been posting honestly all along. We don’t have to flip. We can just continue growing in our knowledge as time goes on. No flipping required. That’s one thing I like about telling the truth!

You have held back the future for a far longer time than I imagined possible, Anonymous. I give you that one. But I would never want to be in your shoes. Not in a billion years.

People who are working up the courage to tell the truth have a valuable resource with this site. I give them the articles they need and the calculators they need and the podcasts they need. I also teach them about the trickery of the Wall Street Con Men and their Internet Goon Squads. People who are afraid that the Wall Street Con Men are going to use their money and power to sue them can look at me and see that they don’t have the guts to pull the trigger. People who are looking to prove that the “defense” of Buy-and-Hold has become a massive case of financial fraud in recent years can point to THOUSANDS of proofs of the case in the materials at this site.

You want to show that Jack Bogle is in on the cover-up? The proof is in materials at this site. You want to show that Bill Bernstein is in on the cover-up? The proof is in materials at this site. You want to show that Wade Pfau is in on the cover-up? The proof is in materials at this site.

This site serves an important public policy purpose in presenting those materials for all the world to see, Anonymous. There are millions of middle-class people who are in the process of seeing their retirement plans destroyed. We are going to have to proceed with hundreds of thousands of civil lawsuits and perhaps hundreds of criminal financial-fraud cases following the next price crash. Having so much evidence collected in one place is a huge plus. We want to put the ugly stuff behind us as quickly as possible and thereby free ourselves to learn about all the wonderful research-based goodness that we should have begun exploring in depth 33 years ago.

J.D. Roth and Mike Piper and Wade Pfau won’t be afraid forever, Anonymous. Ruling though intimidation is a short-term strategy. I hate it that you have done so much damage to a country that I love. But I am proud that I worked up the courage to do a whole big bunch of good here. I intend to continue following the research-based path for a long time to come. (I thank my Buy-and-Hold friends for teaching me the importance of rooting one’s investing strategies in research back in the days when Buy-and-Hold was something more than a nasty marketing gimmick.)

My best wishes to you and yours, Anonymous. Please don’t worry too much about J.D. Roth and Mike Piper and Wade Pfau. They will work up the courage to post honestly as the Buy-and-Hold house of cards continues to collapse. All of us will. In the end, even you Goons will need to work up that courage.

Honest Goons! Imagine! Oh, my!

Rob

 

Filed Under: Wall Street Corruption

Valuation-Informed Indexing #191 — TIPS, IBond and CDs Are Better Alternatives to Stocks Than Bonds

September 23, 2014 by Rob

I’ve posted Entry #191 to my weekly Valuation-Informed Indexing column at the Value Walk site. It’s called TIPS, IBonds and CDs Are Better Alternatives to Stocks Than Bonds.

Juicy Excerpt: Perhaps most important of all, it is an easy thing to shift money from TIPS or IBonds or CDs to stocks when stock prices drop. Bonds are like stocks in that there are time-periods in which you are down and in which you very much do not want to sell. The Valuation-Informed Indexer looks to stocks for growth. So he always wants to be able to take advantage of the juicy long-term returns available when stocks are selling at fair-value prices or better. You don’t want to be stuck in bonds at such times.

Filed Under: VII Column

“As Of Today, Intimidation Works Because, As Much As People Want To Learn About The New Idea, They Are Unsure Of Their Own Knowledge And Don’t At All Like The Idea Of Being Confronted With The Brutal Abusiveness That Those Posting In “Defense” Of Mel Lindauer and John Greaney Have Been Employing For 12 Years Now. All Of Us Are Terrified By The Tactics That Have Been Employed By You Goons. We Will Overcome You. You Goons Will Be Sent Off To Long Prison Terms.”

September 22, 2014 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to another blog entry at this site:

Yes, they all love you. They’re just too frightened to show it. ALL of them. 100% terrified of the Goons. This is just SO much more likely than any other possibility. Such as the ridiculous notion that they find you vacuous, narcissistic, irritating and/or just plain nuts.

Yes, that is the problem, Miasma.

There is of course a lot of misunderstanding as well. The vast majority of people who recommend Buy-and-Hold strategies (I think it may be ALL of them) BELIEVE that Buy-and-Hold can work. Many have doubts. But those with doubts generally believe that, even with its flaws, Buy-and-Hold is the most responsible option. They might not think it works perfectly but they sincerely believe that it works well enough.

Valuation-Informed Indexing is the new thing. There have been hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars directed to the promotion of Buy-and-Hold. Money magazine has promoted Buy-and-Hold strategies in every monthly issue going back to the mid-1970s. Many people are afraid of stocks. So it gives them comfort to go with a strategy that has been around for a long time and that has been endorsed by numerous experts. Buy-and-Hold is the safe choice in a field where safety is prized. Valuation-Informed Indexing is something new and different and strange. So it starts out at a big disadvantage.

But thousands and thousands of people have expressed a desire to learn more about the new strategy over the course of the past 12 years. Including some of the biggest names in the field. And, yes, you Goons have made them afraid to participate in the discussions they want to participate in, afraid to learn the things they want to learn, afraid to ask the questions they feel they need to ask to become more comfortable with the new strategy.

Fear won’t work anymore once the entire world knows about Valuation-Informed Indexing and about the trickery that you Buy-and-Hold Goons have employed to keep millions in the dark for 12 years now. There will come a day when your Goon tactics will become 100 percent ineffective. But that is not where things stand today. As of today, intimidation works because, as much as people want to learn about the new ideas, they are unsure of their own knowledge and don’t at all like the idea of being confronted with the brutal abusiveness that those posting in “defense” of Mel Linduaer and John Greaney have been employing for 12 years now.

All of us are terrified by the tactics that have been employed by you Goons. That’s why we have published rules prohibiting such tactics at every discussion board and blog. That’s why we have made your tactics felonies under the laws of the United States. We wouldn’t be sending people to prison for behaving as you Goons do if we didn’t believe as a society that the behavior that you have engaged in is very, very, very bad stuff.

Most of us do not today understand how stock investing works. Investing was not even studied in a systematic and serious way until the 1960s. And we didn’t as a society know it all at the time when Buy-and-Hold was being developed. So we got off on a wrong track and for 33 years now have needed to set things straight again. People have become more open to the research-based approach as Buy-and-Hold has caused more and more financial devastation. But, yes, our knowledge base is still not strong enough for the learning project to go forward in the face of your abusiveness.

We will overcome you. The people of the United States will learn what they need to learn and you Goons will be sent off to long prison terms. We will collectively work up the courage to take you on and to free ourselves as a society from the ignorance in which we have suffered for the past 33 years.

People who want to learn are afraid of you Goons and of the Wall Street Con Men who pretend that they see nothing wrong with your behavior. But as you destroy more and more middle-class lives, we will work up the courage to stand up to you and to transform Buy-and-Hold into what it was intended to be in its early days by removing the Get Rich Quick element of the first-draft version and offering people for the first time in history a true research-based investing strategy.

I wish you all good things, Miasma.

Rob

Filed Under: Lindauer/Greaney Goons

“One Big Reason Why the Behavioral Finance School Has Not Achieved More in the Practical Realm Despite the Many Powerful Insights It Has Advanced Is That Too Many Are Afraid to Describe and Document the Goonishness of the Buy-and-Holders. Goonishness Is the Thing We Need to Overcome to Become Effective Investors. We Will Not As a Society Become Able to Combat Goonishness Until We First Work Up the Courage to Talk About It.”

September 19, 2014 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently posted to another blog entry at this site:

Calling someone a goon speaks more about you instead of the person you have targeted.

It says that I do my job, Anonymous. I am a journalist. Journalists tell people what is going on in the world. The 12-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School safe-withdrawal-rate studies is the biggest economic and political story of our time. Pointing to the behavior of you Goons is part of the job of telling this story. Things could not have played out as they have played out without a heavy helping of Goonishness. The story doesn’t make even a tiny bit of sense if the Goonishness is ignored.

One big reason why the Behavioral Finance School of personal finance has not achieved more in the practical realm despite the many powerful insights it has advanced is that too many people in this school are afraid to describe and document the Goonishness we all see taking place all around us every day from those who believe and follow the conventional (Buy-and-Hold) investing advice. Goonihsness is the story. Goonishness is the thing we need to combat if we are to become effective investors. We will not as a society become able to combat Goonishness until we first work up the courage to at least talk about it.

I am the fellow who doesn’t hold back from noticing and talking about and exploring and commenting on and trying to rein in Goonishness. That’s why I am today 12 years ahead in my understanding of how stock investing works of people like my good friend Jack Bogle. Jack shies away from this topic. It has its ugly side. I certainly don’t say different. But you know what? A doctor who wants to cut out cancerous tissue has to draw blood to do so. There are times when a person seeking to do something good has to engage in some awful task to get the job done.

Jack Bogle has more I.Q. points than I possess and he has more training in this field and he has more experience. But he has held himself back because of his fear of talking about the ugly Goonishness that has come to dominant this field in the Buy-and-Hold Era. I care about what happens to the people who read my words. And so I cannot go there. I talk about non-Goon stuff all the time and I enjoy being able to do that when it is an option. But when the Goon stuff stares me in the face and demands to be reported, I make an effort to work up the courage to do that. I work it hard and I think it would be fair to say that I have gone to places that no one else in this field has ever gone to before. I pray that I will continue to push when called on by realities taking place before me to do so.

Had Shiller published his “revolutionary” research in 1961 instead of 1981, there never would have been any Buy-and-Hold. The Buy-and-Holders don’t want to destroy our economic system. They don’t want to invest ineffectively themselves. Valuation-Informed Indexing has been shown to be so far superior to Buy-and-Hold in every test that has been done that it is silly to suggest that there is any intellectual debate here. There’s a mountain of evidence on the Valuation-Informed Indexing side and zero evidence on the Buy-and-Hold side. Zero evidence combined with a huge amount of Goonishness. Which has been enough to block the intellectual debate for 12 years now (it’s 33 years if you date things back to when Shiller published his revolutionary research). It will soon become 34 years if we don’t as a society work up the courage to face the Goonishness this year. It will soon become 35 years of we don’t as a society work up the courage to face the Goonishness either this year or next year. And so on.

The reason why we are in an economic crisis today instead of enjoying the greatest period of economic growth in our history is that we are not all Vulcans who pursue our self-interest in a purely rational manner. Eugene Fama is responsible for some major advances. We all owe him a debt of gratitude for the good he has done. But he also made one huge mistake that has caused a huge amount of human misery. And he doesn’t want to acknowledge it. He feels ashamed. He wants that mistake covered up. The mistake has destroyed millions of middle-class lives. So as a society we cannot permit the error to be covered up any longer.

And of course it is not just Fama. LOTS of people want the realities of what we know about how stock investing works in the year 2014 covered up. And that cannot be. These realities cannot be covered up any longer. We all want to be enjoying life on the other side of the river. But the only way to the other side is struggling through the hard stuff. The only way to the other side is exposing the Goonishness and talking about it and punishing it (both through civil and criminal actions) and then forgiving it and then putting it all behind us and moving on to all the good stuff.

It’s not an accident that we have gone 33 years since Robert Shiller proved that there is precisely zero chance that a Buy-and-Hold strategy could ever work for even a single long-term investor without every expert in this field declaring that to be the case. There’s money in Get Rich Quick investing strategies. A LOT of money. And so a lot of smart and otherwise good people have been attracted to the wrong side of the ethical lines out of a desire to be popular and make lots of bucks while the Get Rich Quick garbage is still paying out its huge payouts to those who put obtaining huge personal payouts above helping their clients and readers learn how to invest effectively for the log run.

Those people very, very, very, very, very much don’t want the truth getting out. And the only hope they have with 33 years of peer-reviewed research behind them showing that they are talking garbage when they say that there is no need for investors to practice price discipline when buying stocks is engaging in and tolerating and encouraging Goonishness. That’s where things stand. I didn’t create the reality. I report on it. I care deeply about my many Buy-and-Hold friends and I want to help them. But I know that I am not helping them by causing them to travel even farther down the dark path that they have elected to travel.

I will continue to report on the behavior of you Goons and on the behavior of the Wall Street Con Men that makes possible the existence of you Goons in a society that has adopted laws protecting us from this sort of behavior. I can do no more and I can do no less.

I wish you all good things, Anonymous.

Rob

Filed Under: From Buy/Hold to VII

“There Are Millions of People Who Today Believe the Buy-and-Hold Lies. I Know Because I Have Talked to a Good Number of Them. I Have Had People Tell Me That Everything I Say About Investing Sounds 100 Percent Right On. But That One Thing Concerns Them. Big Shots Like Jack Bogle Are Saying the OPPOSITE of What I Am Saying, the OPPOSITE of What Makes Sense, the OPPOSITE of What the Peer-Reviewed Research in This Field Reveals. Research-Based Strategies WORK But Get Rich Quick Strategies SELL.”

September 18, 2014 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently put to another blog entry at this site:

No one is stopping you from selling your lucky VII scheme. Go short the market. Go start up a fund using your strategy. Do whatever you want. You can do whatever you want. Meanwhile, the rest of us will do what we want.

We are all big boys. We can make our own decisions and don’t need you telling us what to do. Advice can be be taken or rejected. What you want to do is shut down other people and then have you cecome the vaulted leader. How is that working out for you? Not very good, is it. It is not the so called “goons”. It is not some wall street conspiracy. You can find the source of the problem by looking in the mirror.

And you can market Buy-and-Hold, Anonymous. No one is trying to stop you from doing that.

But you cannot engage in acts of financial fraud to stop people from learning what the last 33 years of peer-reviewed research says. Advances in knowledge belong to EVERYBODY. If I want to post honestly at a discussion board about safe withdrawal rates, I have every right in the world to do so. So does Michael Kitces. So does Wade Pfau. So does Bill Bernstein. So does Larry Swdroe. So does everyone.

You have to make a distinction between marketing and research. Marketing is something you do to make a buck. If you want to make some marketing claim to make a buck, that’s your business. But your marketing claims cannot contain false statements about the peer-reviewed research in this field or you will be going to prison following the next crash. That’s financial fraud. That’s a felony.

There obviously is not a sliver of research showing that it is okay to ignore the valuation level that applies on the day a retirement begins when calculating the safe withdrawal rate. There is 33 years of peer-reviewed research showing that that is the most important element of the calculation. I understand that it helps your marketing efforts if you lie about that point. You need to understand that that’s a crime and that you can expect to be prosecuted for it.

There are millions of people who today believe the Buy-and-Hold lies. I know because I have talked to a good number of them. I have had people tell me that everything I say about investing sounds 100 percent right on. But that one thing concerns them. Big Shots like Jack Bogle are saying the OPPOSITE of what I am saying, the OPPOSITE of what makes sense, the OPPOSITE of what the peer-reviewed research in this field reveals. They want to know why.

The reason why is that Get Rich Quick sells. Research-based strategies WORK but Get Rich Quick strategies SELL. The Buy-and-Holders introduced the idea of rooting one’s strategies in the peer-reviewed research. That was a wonderful advance. But then when research was published showing that there is precisely zero chance that a Buy-and-Hold strategy could ever work for even a single long-term investor, they flipped. At that point, they continued SAYING that people should root their strategies in research but they began engaging in insanely abusive behavior aimed at intimidating people who reported honestly on the research (which has since 1981 shown that Buy-and-Hold NEVER works) into not doing so. That doesn’t fly.

This is not just an investing matter. Whether the millions of investors who need to know what the research says have some means to find out or not is a matter of grave ECONOMIC importance. When people cannot find out the truth about what the research says, they see their retirement portfolios wiped out. When people see their retirement portfolios wiped out, they stop buying goods and services. When they stop buying goods and services, hundreds of thousands of businesses go under. When hundreds of thousands of businesses go under, millions of workers lose their jobs. We are in an economic crisis today because the Buy-and-Holders are not willing to acknowledge that the “idea” that it is okay not to consider price when setting one’s stock allocation is a MARKETING claim with ZERO support in the peer-reviewed research in this field. That needs to change.

And this isn’t just an economic matter either. It is a POLITICAL matter. There are millions of people who are in the process of seeing their retirements fail because of the 12-year cover-up of the errors in the Old School safe-withdrawal-rate studies. Those people did nothing wrong. They listened to the “experts” (who were telling lies about SWRs for marketing reasons). We have no choice as a society but to bail those people out. That is going to cost us trillions of dollars in taxpayer money. The Federal budget deficit is going to EXPLODE. That’s all on the Buy-and-Holders and their unwillingness to permit honest posting on any of these questions because honest reporting of what the last 33 years of peer-reviewed research shows puts a crimp in their nasty MARKETING efforts.

There is a limit to how far you can take marketing, Anonymous. The Buy-and-Holders have destroyed millions of middle-class lives through this massive act of financial fraud. People are going to be sent to prison over this. We are going to see hundreds of thousands of civil lawsuits filed. Many reputations will be destroyed as word gets out about what the Buy-and-Holders have done to our country. Giving investing advice is not just about turning a quick buck. There are responsibilities involved. Jack Bogle and the other Buy-and-Hold advocates have failed in their responsibilities to their profession and to their clients and to their readers and to their country in a very, very big way.

No one is stopping you from selling your Buy-and-Hold garbage. But I AM in the process of stopping you from making claims that there is some mystical, magical “research” somewhere that supports it. Wade Pfau has a Ph.D. in Economics from Princeton. If there were ever a sliver of peer-reviewed research supporting Buy-and-Hold, he would have been able to find it. He searched for a long time. He found nothing. He couldn’t believe what he had learned. So he went to the Bogleheads Forum to see if anyone there had ever come across a single peer-reviewed research paper supporting Buy-and-Hold. Jack Bogle had never heard of a single study supporting the smelly Buy-and-Hold garbage. Bill Berntsein had never heard of a single study supporting the smelly Buy-and-Hold garbage. Larry Swedroe had never heard of a single study supporting the smelly Buy-and-Hold garbage. I wonder why.

I will continue posting honestly re safe withdrawal rates and scores of other critically important investment-related topics. If there comes a day when you want help from a friend re the mess you have created for yourself and many, many others, let me know, I will be your guy. So long as the price of admission to your “discussions” is engaging in a felony under the laws of the United States, I am afraid that you will need to find someone else. Not this boy. I can’t go for that. No can do. It’s not my particular cup of tea.

My best wishes to you and yours, Anonymous.

Rob

Filed Under: Wall Street Corruption

“The Experts Feel That Their Clients and Readers Won’t Think of Them as Experts Unless They Say Something More Definitive Than ‘80% Stocks Might Be Good But 20% Stocks Might Be Good Too.’ They Cannot Tell Their Clients and Reader to Wait 20 Years Until We Figure Out Whether It Is Fama or Shiller Who Got Things Right. So They IGNORE Shiller.”

September 17, 2014 by Rob

Set forth below is the text of a comment that I recently put to another blog entry at this site:

Would you agree that your inital response in this thread can be reduced to the following dilema:

Either nearly every finance author, lecturer, blogger, advisor, and commenter on the planet is purposely corrupt and involved in a single-minded tight and as-yet completely unbreached unreportred and ongoing conspiracy against the truth that caused a major economic meltdown…

OR…..

a single unemployed layman blogger in Virginia has a profound [willful?] misunderstanding of mathematics and investing principles.

What really happened is that Shiller’s findings came as a shock. He turned what we believe about how stock investing works on its head. It takes some time for people to process such a fundamental change in our understanding of so important a matter. I don’t think it would have been too strange for it to have taken five or ten years for Valuation-Informed Indexing to catch on. That would have taken us to 1986 or 1991.

By that time, a huge bull market had been established. People did not want to hear that Buy-and-Hold does not work. They were getting daily feedback that it was working very well. And it wasn’t until late 2008 that the bull market ended in the popular perception. So it has only been for five years that most people have been open to questioning of Buy-and-Hold. And we HAVE seeing the door begin to open during that time. We are not yet where we need to be. But we are making slow but steady progress.

Another big factor here is that investing is too important to get wrong. Intuitively, you would think that that would make people super cautious about making dogmatic claims. The reality is that it has worked the other way around. Because investing is so important, experts feel that they need to demonstrate confidence in what they say. And the Buy-and-Hold and Valuation-Informed Indexing models often lead to OPPOSITE strategic recommendations. Experts feel that it would sound funny to say: “I believe that you should be at an 80 percent stock allocation but I also want you to know that there are good and smart people in this field who follow research that indicates that 20 percent stocks is a much better choice.”

That’s what people should be saying. There are two models for understanding how stock investing works and anyone who is educated re the research has a responsibility to let his clients or readers know that there is another school of thought that leads one to very, very different conclusions. But the experts feel that their clients and readers won’t think of them as experts unless they say something more definitive than “80 percent stocks might be good but 20 percent stocks might be good too.” The REALITY is that we are as a society today at a primitive level of understanding of how stock investing works. But the experts have to give advice on how to invest TODAY — they cannot tell their clients and readers to wait 20 years until we figure out whether it is Fama or Shiller who got things right. So they IGNORE Shiller. They act like he doesn’t exist. It’s a terribly irresponsible thing to do. But when you think this through carefully you can begin to see why things happened as they did.

It is certainly not the case that everyone in the field is purposely corrupt. That is OBVIOUSLY not true. Even people like Bogle and Bernstein and Swedroe include LOTS of honest and accurate comments in their books and articles and speeches. They even include comments that argue against their Buy-and-Hold recommendations. I learned about the errors in the Old School safe-withdrawal-rate studies by reading Bogle’s book. If he were 100 percent corrupt, he would not include that sort of language in his book. It would make no sense for an entirely corrupt person to do so.

What is going on is that we are living through a state of transition from Buy-and-Hold to Valuation-Informed Indexing. Bogle (and all the others) understands that there are problems with Buy-and-Hold. He is DEFENSIVE about the many obvious weak points in his model. But he has a lot invested in Buy-and-Hold and he once truly believed in it. So he is highly reluctant to give up on the model. So he downplays the weaknesses. Not only in his public comments. My sense is that he does this even in his own mind. He has convinced himself that Buy-and-Hold can at least kinda sorta work. He has convinced himself that he is not doing anything too horrible in failing to explore the challenges that have been presented to his model.

There is now a mountain of evidence that he IS doing something truly horrible. The relentless promotion of Buy-and-Hold strategies was the primary cause of the economic crisis. Bogle has caused tens of thousands of businesses to fail. He has caused millions of people to lose their jobs. He has caused millions of retirements to fail. He has even caused a significant number of people on both the left (The Occupy Wall Street Movement) and the right (The Tea Party Movement) of the political spectrum to begin to lose confidence in our system of government. That’s very bad stuff. But it does NOT amount to financial fraud so long as Bogle (or any of the others) is suffering from cognitive dissonance, a condition that afflicts all of us humans from time to time.

Death threats? Demands for unjustified board bannings? Tens of thousands of acts of defamation? Threats to get academic researchers fired from their jobs? We cannot excuse those sorts of things with stories about people suffering from cognitive dissonance. There are reasons why we have rules and laws protecting us from those sorts of behaviors. Those sorts of behaviors make our system unworkable. We all are capable of making mistakes and those sorts of behaviors make it impossible for us to discover our mistakes through civil and reasoned discussion. Those who engage in those sorts of behaviors or who see others engage in those sorts of behaviors and fail to take prompt action are guilty of financial fraud, a felony under the laws of the United States. Of that there can be no doubt whatsoever.

And there can be no doubt whatsoever that it is no act of kindness to cover up such acts of financial fraud or to fail to work hard to have them discovered and prosecuted. When we tolerate financial fraud, we insure that additional acts of financial fraud will take place by people who feel threatened by the findings of the last 33 years of peer-reviewed academic research in this field. The people who fail to speak up are insuring that more people will go to prison and that the prison sentences will be longer.

We are the luckiest generation of investors ever to talk Planet Earth. Once we make it to the other side, we will all know how to obtain far higher returns from stocks while taking on dramatically reduced risk. That’s investor heaven! It is because the advance we have achieved (at least intellectually!) is so great that as a society we have been slow to make the transition. We are naturally skeptical of such huge changes and so it is proper that we have proceeded cautiously. It is of course NOT proper that some of us have engaged in acts of financial fraud to block the change from taking place.

We are not a bad people. But we have made some bad choices that have caused huge amounts of human misery. We need to turn things around. We all should be doing everything in our power to insure that we do so by the close of business tomorrow.

That’s my sincere take re this terribly important matter, in any event.

Rob

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