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The Old Ideas on Saving & Investing Don't Work -- Here's What Does

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Is the Same Song We Sing. Glad You Belong to the Same Choir We Do."





    Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning
    for Life Planning Partners, Inc.

  • "Retirees Now Frequently Base Their Retirement Decisions on the Portfolio Success Rates Found in Research Such as the Trinity Study.... This Is Not the Information They Need for Making Their Withdrawal Rate Decisions."




    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "The P/E10 Tool Could Drastically Change
    How the Entire Investment Industry
    Operates and Measures Risk."





    Larry, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Your Money or Your Life Book
    for a New Generation."





    Beatrix Fernandex, Book Reviewer
    for Dollar Stretcher Site

  • "A Newer School of Thought Believes That the Safe Withdrawal Rate Depends on How Stocks Are Priced at the Time You Begin Making Withdrawals."





    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News Finance Columnist

  • "A Fascinating Retirement Calculator."







    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "The Evidence is Pretty Incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing...Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over Ten-Year Periods."




    Norbert Schenkler,
    Co-Owner of Financial WebRing Forum

  • "Every Detail Shows Rob's Respect
    for His Information and His Reader."






    Audrey Owen, Owner of Writer's Helper Site

  • "You’ve Accomplished Something Radical
    With Your Idea of Passion Saving."





    Mark Michael Lewis,
    Money, Mission & Meaning Talk Show Host

  • "Big Moves Out of Stocks Should Not Be Done at All. But Strategic Asset Allocation Can Be Done At Very Rare Times, Maybe Six Times in an Investor’s Lifetime, Three Times When the Market Is Stupidly High and Three Times When Stupidly Low."



    John Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "Valuation-Informed Investing and Passive Investing
    Share More of a Common Ancestry
    Than It Might Appear at First."





    Jacob Irwin, Owner of Passive Investing Blog Carnival

  • "It Is Great to See a Finance Journalist Who Understands That Valuations Matter. Efficient Market Zealotry Is Rampant in the Journalism Community. I Just Love Your Valuation-Based Return Calculator."




    Rich Toscano, Pacific Capital Associates

  • "There Is Always An Unlimited Supply of Complainers Against Any Good Idea."






    Mr. Money Mustache Blogger

  • "Rob: This Has Been One of the Most Insightful and Helpful Comments I Think Anyone Has Ever Posted. Thank You for This Lesson and for Sharing Your Knowledge on This Subject!"




    My Money Design Blogger

  • "There Is An Extensive Literature About the Predictability of Long-Term Stock Returns. There Is an Extensive Literature About Short-Term Market Timing. My Question Is About Long-Term Market Timing. The Literature Seems Slim."



    Wade Pfau, Retirement Income Professor
    at The American College

  • "Your Ideas Are Sound."







    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "For Years, the Investment Industry Has
    Tried to Scare Clients Into Staying Fully Invested
    in the Stock Market at All Times, No Matter
    How High Stocks Go. It's Hooey.
    They're Leaving Out More Than Half the Story."



    Brett Arends, The Wall Street Journal

  • "There Are Time-Periods Where Stocks Are a Terrible Addition to That Portfolio. Yet Inexplicably, We As Planners STILL tend to Suggest That It Is 'Risky' to Not Own Stocks When in Reality the Only Risk Is to Our Business."




    Michael Kitces, Maryland Financial Planner

  • "Valuation-Informed Indexing Provides More Wealth for 102 of 110 of the Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods While Buy-and-Hold Did Better in Eight of the Periods."






    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "There Is a Growing Behavioral Economics Movement, But It So Far Has Had Limited Impact. Economists Are Not Fond of the Softness and Imprecision of Psychology. These Notions Are Considered Vaguely Unprofessional and Flaky."



    Robert Shiller, Yale University Economic Professor

  • "I Would Occasionally Get a Response Post
    Saying I Was 'the Best Since Rob Bennett
    Challenged Us to Think.'"




    A Popular Bogleheads Forum Poster Named "Retired at 48" Who Was Banned for Challenging Buy-and-Hold

  • "New Research by Rob Bennett Shows That
    Even a 4% Withdrawal Rate Could Cause Failure
    If You Start Retirement When
    Stock Market Valuations Are High.”




    Bernard Kelly, Consultant

  • "FuhGedDaBouDit!"




    William Bernstein, Author of
    The Four Pillars of Investing
    (When Asked Whether We Can Use the Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Studies to Plan Our Retirements)

  • "This [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is a Very Handy Little Tool."






    Felix Salmon, Market Movers Blog

  • "A Much Simpler Way to Bring
    the Valuation Issue to Focus."
    (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)





    Karteek Narayanaswarmy, Blogger

  • "It's Informative, It's Based on Solid Data and It Provides Useful Results." (Referring to The Stock-Return Predictor)






    Political Calculations Blog

  • "Meet Three Couples Who Left the Corporate World to Do the Kinds of Work That Satisfied Them."






    Liz Pulliam Weston, MSN Money Columnist

  • "I Like Rob's Fresh Views and Tips
    on the Subject of Saving Money."






    The Digerati Life Blog

  • "A Very Solid Approach to Investing."







    Michael Harr, Founder of Walden Advisors

  • "Rob Bennett Has Been on a Tear With One Outstanding RobCast After Another."





    John Walter Russell, Owner of
    Early-Retirement-Planning-Insights.com Site

  • "It’s Time for a Different Way to Look at Investing, and Rob Is Onto Something Here."






    Kevin Mercadante, Owner of Out of Your Rut Blog

  • "My Afternoon Train Reading."
    (Referring to Rob's Article titled
    Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work)





    Barry Ritholtz, Owner of The Big Picture Blog

  • "What Is It With Guys Named Rob?
    Longtime Index Agitator Rob Arnott Has Now
    Been Joined on These Pages by a
    Vanguard Diehard Agitator Named Rob Bennett."




    Jim Wiandt, IndexUniverse.com Publisher

  • "He Offers a Fresh New Perspective
    that Will Motivate You to Get on Track
    With a Solid Savings Plan."





    Lynn Terry, Click Newz Blog

  • "While Browsing at www.PassionSaving.com the Other Day, I Discovered an Article Featuring Ten Unconventional Money-Saving Tips. Each of These Offers a New Way to See Money."




    J.D. Roth, Owner of Get Rich Slowly Site

  • "Rob Has Ideas About Investing That Many Bloggers Find 'Interesting.' His Posts Are Often Controversial and Always Thought Provoking."





    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Is There a Way to Turn Saving Into Something Fun? If There Was, I Bet a Lot More of Us Would Do a Lot More Saving. I Found a Website Where This Basic Premise Is Explored in Great Depth."




    The Great WeiszGuy Blog

  • "I Have Much More Confidence in My Ability to Understand What Is Happening....I Thank You for Your Public Service, and, In Another Dimension, for the Personal Courage It Took to Make It Happen."




    Elizabeth, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Was Hooked on the Idea of [Passive] Index Indexing, But Something Inside Made Me Wonder "Too Good to Be True?" and "What's the Downside?" I Happened on to Your Site and Valuation-Informed Indexing Seems to Make Sense."



    Coleen, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Reads Like a Casual Conversation
    with a Likable Guy Who Wants Nothing More
    Than to Help Others Experience the Same Joy
    and Happiness He Has Found."




    Kara, Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Your 'Secrets' Are Exactly Like Magic Tricks: Once Revealed, They Look So Simple, Yet You Need Somebody to Show You How It Works."





    Kramerizio, Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob's Da Man! Never in the History of the Diehards Forum Has One Poster, Always Making Civil and Well Thought-Out Posts, Managed to Irritate So Many Without Anyone Being Able to Articulate a Good Reason As to Why."




    Mephistopheles, Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "I’ve Been Surprised at How Controversial This Idea Is, but If Most People Are Buying and Holding, They Are Emotionally Invested in This Strategy."





    Jennifer Barry, Live Richly Blogger

  • "The Findings for [Long-Term] Market Timing Are So Robust That It Hardly Matters How We Do It."






    Wade Pfau, Asociate Professor of Economics

  • "The Elegant Simplicity of His Ideas Throughout Warms the Heart and Startles the Brain."






    Tom Gardner, Co-Founder of the Motley Fool Site

  • "Mr. Bennett Evidences an Unusual Skill....
    You'll Have to Buy a Copy....Extraordinary....
    A Massive Heap of Crap."




    John Greaney,
    Owner of the Retire Early Home Page Site

  • "By Reading All the Information on Your Website I Was Able to Develop a Part of Me I Didn't Know I Would Be Able to Become."





    Javier, PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Innovative Financial Thinking."







    No Limits, Ladies Blog

  • "Knowledgeable."







    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!"






    Bill Schultheis, Author of
    The New Coffeehouse Portfolio

  • ""He Offers Down-to-Earth But
    Nevertheless Eye-Opening Insights About
    the Why and the How of Early Retirement."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Challenges Unfounded Assumptions."







    Bill Sholar, Founder of the Early Retirement Forum

  • "Seminal."






    John Greaney, Owner of Retire Early Home Page Site
    (Pre-May 13, 2002 Version)

  • "It’s Always Good to Read Something New That Challenges Your Way of Thinking."






    Invest It Wisely Blog

  • "Rob, Thanks for All of Your Articulate, Well-Written and Well-Reasoned Commentary."






    Elle, a Poster at the Joe Taxpayer Blog

  • "Although Rob and I Don’t See Eye to Eye
    on Every Detail, His Site Is a
    Valuable Resource for Research."





    Ken Faulkenberry, Portfolio Manager

  • "Thanks, Rob. I Love Seeing So Many
    Personal Finance Bloggers Who Offer Such
    High Quality Content on Their Own Sites Come Here
    to Weigh In [on Your Ideas]."




    Married With Debt Blogger

  • "A Ton of Tremendously Useful Content."







    Network Abundance Radio

  • "Your Enthusiasm Is Infectious."







    Ruth, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Woke Up at 4:00 am and Stared at the Wall for 20 Minutes....Thank You for Doing What You Do."






    Tasha, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "It Might Just Give You
    a New Way of Looking at Saving."






    Kevin Surbaugh, Owner of Debt Free 4Ever Blog

  • "'Staying Too Long in a Job Where You Don’t Feel Relevant Takes a Toll,' Said Rob Bennett, Who Worked for Years in a Well-Paying Corporate Communications Job Where He Didn’t Have Enough to Do."




    The New York Times

  • "You Have Started One of the Most Interesting
    and Stimulating Discussions This Board has Seen
    in a Long Time."





    Poster at Motley Fool Site

  • "A Respected Author and Commentator, Mr. Bennett has Dedicated Himself to Educating Average Investors to Avoid the Most Common Errors."





    Liberty Watch Site

  • "I've Gone from Shattered Dreams of Early Retirement to Glimpses of Hope to Reassurance from Quantitative Research."





    Patricia, A PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "Some of the Most Helpful and Insightful Market Discussions on the Web Take Place on These Pages."





    A Poster at the Safe WithDrawal Rate Research Group
    (Founded by Rob)

  • "Rob is the Only Person I Know (If Only via Message Board) Who has Completely Opted Out of Participation in the Stock Bubble. And You Know What? He Has Benefited Immensely from Doing So."




    Poster at Motley Fool

  • "Makes the Subject of Saving Edgy and Fresh."







    Maxine, A Reader of Rob's Book

  • "Rob Bennett, the Author of a Book Called Passion Saving, Thinks the Saving Problem Is Partly One of Packaging. So He Prefers to Couch it in the Language of Freedom."





    The Wall Street Journal

  • "This Tip Comes from Rob Bennett
    of the Finance Site PassionSaving.com."






    Lifehacker.com

  • "I LOVE This Article and
    Am Proud to be Publishing It!"




    Chuck Yanikoski, Executive Director of
    The Association of Integrative Financial
    and Life Planning

  • "Rob Bennett: Some People Disagree With Him, and He Rubs a Lot of People the Wrong Way. But He Has Interesting Ideas About Valuation-Informed Indexing, and He Delves Into a Lot of What Makes a Successful Investing Strategy."



    Miranda Marquit, Planting Money Seeds Blog

  • "Rob….Wow…..Your Response Sent Shivers
    Up the Ol’ Pilgrim Spine."






    Neal Frankie, Owner of the Wealth Pilgrim Blog

  • "I Have Counseled My Clients to Allocate a Percentage to Equities Based Upon Market Valuations....I Feel Like I've Found a Kindred Spirit. Fascinating Web Site."





    Tom Behlmer, Financial Planner

  • “A Simple Age-Based Asset Allocation Formula Is Not Appropriate, and Any Sensible Asset-Allocation Formula Should Combine Both Age/Investment Horizon and Market Valuation Levels.”




    RationalInvestor.biz

  • "Had a Guest Post This Week from Rob Bennett, Where He Discusses the Benefits of Value-Informed Indexing, Which I Find Very Intriguing."





    Sustainable Personal Finance Blog

  • "I Can Appreciate Rob's Comments.... Buy-and-Hold?
    For the Most Part, a Long Obsolete Theory."






    Neal Deutsch, Certified Financial Planner

  • "Utterly Brilliant!"







    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Your Website Is So Enjoyable That It Is Keeping Me From My Research As I Am So Excited That I Have Found Such a Valuable Resource."





    Stuart, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "What We're Talking About Here Really
    ...Is Empowerment."






    Motley Fool Poster

  • "The Return Predictor Is Based upon the Principle that Over the Long Term, Stock Market Prices Will Reflect the Ten-Years Earnings Growth of the Underlying Companies. Prices Return to a Common Growth Pattern."




    Links.com Review of The Stock-Return Predictor

  • "Rob’s Arguments in Favor of Value Investing Actually Make a Lot of Sense In a Way That Should Make Any Rational Buy-and-Holder Uncomfortable."





    Pop Economics Blog

  • "What I Don't Understand Is How Rob Can Correspond in Such a Sweet and Polite Way
    -- Yet He Irritates Me to No End!"





    Financial WebRing Forum Poster

  • "You Go About It in a Manner that is Catastrophically Unproductive by Adding Missionary Zeal that Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others. The Whole Idea That There is a New School of Safe Withdrawal Rates Reeks of Personal Aggrandizement."



    Scott Burns, Dallas Morning News

  • "Inflammatory."







    Morningstar.com Site Administrator

  • “What Warren Buffett Did Was Essentially Quite Close to What Rob Bennett Has Written. Buffett Has in Fact Been Cleverly Incorporating Long-Term Market Timing Based on Valuation of the Market in His Allocation of Money to Stocks.”



    Investor Notes Blog

  • "This Report Offers A Fresh Perspective That Is Rarely Found In Other Financial Literature."






    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "Rob Bennett Says That Market Timing Based on Aggregate P/E Ratios Can Be a Far More Effective Strategy. This Claim Is Consistent With Shiller's Analysis and I Can See How It Might Be So."




    Rajiv Sethi, Economics Professor at Columbia Univeristy

  • "Retiring Early Was A Concept I Did Not Entertain. I Was Going to Retire at 65 After Putting in 40 Years. Now I Am Glad To Say That All That Has Changed."





    Secrets of Retiring Early Reader

  • "In a Couple of Days, I Had
    Devoured the Entire Book."






    Reader of Rob's Book

  • "FIRECalc May Not Be the Last Word
    on Safe Withdrawal Rates."






    Jonathan Clements, Wall Street Journal

  • "It Seems to Me That Some on This Board Feel Threatened by the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas. They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status."





    Motley Fool Poster

  • "You've Got to Say One Thing for Rob. He Has NEVER Lowered Himself to Ad Hominen Attacks -- Subliminal or Otherwise -- on Any Other Person on This Board. Not Once. Ever. At Least Give Him Credit for That."




    Motley Fool Poster

  • "I Have Never Seen Rob Show Incivility. No Matter What. Truly Amazing. Either He Is Really the Output of an Artificial Intelligence Program, or the Man's on the Way to Becoming a Saint!"




    Early Retirement Forum Poster

  • "You're the Politest Guy on the Internet.
    Such a Soft Touch!"






    Jonathan Lewis

  • "Props for Keeping Your Cool in the Married with Debt Article. Best of Luck Combating Buy-and-Hold."






    Money Mamba Blogger

  • "I Caught Up [at the Financial Bloggers Conference] With a Fairly Controversial Financial Blogger
    Named Rob Bennett, Who Struck Me As the
    Nicest Guy Around. There -- I Said It!"




    Digerati Life Blogger

  • "In Rob Bennett's Case, He Was Banned for No Known Listed Forum Policy. Except His Viewpoint Was Different From Other Bogleheads and [He Was Perceived As] a Threat."




    Investor Junkie Blog

  • "Mr. Bennett, You Are Spot on About Integrating Some Type of Valuation Filter to One's Stock Allocation. Astute Investors Have Incorporated Some Type of 'Valuation Timing' Into Their Investment Decisions Since the Beginning of Time."



    Poster at the Psy Fi Blog

  • "His Insights Into What Is Really Going On In The Stock Market Are Quite Compelling."






    Future Storm Blog

  • "It Was an Epiphany...Valuation-Informed Indexing Beats Buy-and-Hold Over Most Long-Term Holding Periods at Much Lower Volatility."





    Sam, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "I Am Intrigued By Your Ideas."







    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "I Read the Book and I Loved It.
    The Philosophy Resonated with Me.
    I Am a Believer in Your Concept."





    Dr. Peter Weiss, Author of More Health, Less Care

  • "If Your Investment Ideas Can Do for Investing
    What Weston Price’s Ideas Did for Food,
    You’ve Got Our Attention."





    End Times Hoax Blog

  • "I Have Looked at His Website and Reviewed His Research and Find It Both Compelling and Completely Logical and Common-Sense-Based."





    Poster at Free Money Finance Blog

  • "If Investors Paid More Attention to Valuations, We Would Have Fewer Boom-and-Bust Cycles. The Investing Institutions Are Definitely Going to Avoid It Because It Affects Their Income."




    Hope to Prosper Blog

  • "The Calculators on Your Site Are Great Resources. It Amazes Me How So Many People Can Say 'Valuations Matter' Yet, in the Next Breath, They'll Say That We Should Ignore Valuations."




    John Marlowe, Logistics Analyst at Hess Corporation

  • "Must Read As Per My Viewpoint
    For All Value Seekers."






    Ajit Vakil, Value Investing Congress

  • "His Approach Is Both Mathematically Rigorous
    and Easy to Understand."






    Online Investing AI Blog

  • "There Is Nothing More Doubtful of Success Than a New System. The Initiator Has the Enmity of All Who Profit By Preservation of the Old Institution and Merely Lukewarm Defenders in Those Who Gain By the New One."




    Machiavelli

  • "Difficult Subjects Can Be Explained to the Most Slow-Witted Man If He Has Not Formed Any Idea of Them. But the Simplest Thing Cannot Be Made Clear to the Most Intelligent Man If He Believes He Knows Already What Is Laid Before Him."



    Tolstoy

  • "I Am Not Afraid. I Was Born to Do This."







    Joan of Arc

  • "I Certainly Have Seen the Academic Profession Squelching Unfashionable ideas and Have Often Been on the Wrong Side of It. Kuhn Shows How Most Pathbreaking Scientific Ideas Are Rejected at First, Usually for Decades.”




    Carol Osler, Brandeis International Business School

  • "First They Ignore You, Then They Ridicule You, Then They Fight You, Then You Win."






    Ghandi

  • "We Cannot Assume the Existence of Predictability Just Because There Are No Studies That Fully Reject It."






    Valeriy Zakamulin, Economics Professor

  • "I Am Also Extremely Grateful to Rob Bennett for Motivating This Topic and Contributing His Experience and Encouragement."





    Wade Pfau, Academic Researcher

  • "Rob Bennett Was an Early Pioneer in 3rd Generation Modeling by Advocating (Through Various Online Forums) that Withdrawal Rates Must Be Adjusted for Market Valuations Consistent with Research by Campbell and Shiller."



    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "I Am Fascinated by the Growing Body of Research that Revolves Around the P/E10 Ratio by Robert Shiller, Doug Short, Wade Pfau, Michael Kitces, John Hussman, Crestmont Research, Jim Otar, Mike Philbrick, Adam Butler & Rob Bennett."



    Kay Conheady in Advisor Perspectives

  • "Rob Is an Enigma in the Personal Finance World. He Has Interesting Theories on Investing Based on Market Valuations. But He Weaves a Tale Which Makes the Stories of Alexander Litvinenko & Gareth Williams Seem Tame by Comparison."



    Don't Quit Your Day Job Blog

  • "In Recent Years, the 4 Percent Rule
    Has Been Thrown Into Doubt."






    The Wall Street Journal

  • "A Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Very Dependent
    on the Valuation of the Stockmarket
    at the Retirement Date."





    Economist Magazine

  • "I Have Read Everything I Can About Valuation-Informed Indexing. Buy-and-Hold Is Extremely Problematic. I Respect the Passion, Hard Work and Research That You Have Put Into This Very Important Issue. Your Work Has Huge Value."



    Carl Richards, Owner of Clearwater Asset Management

  • "The World of Personal Finance Blogging Needs More Rob Bennetts. He’s Passionate. He’s Intelligent. He’s Writing Things That Go Against the Grain."





    Financial Uproar Blog

  • "Beyond Awesome."







    Larry, a PassionSaving.com Site Visitor

  • "The Wealth Management Industry Seems Intent on Containing This Discussion for Fear Clients Might Discover that the Emperor Has No Clothes."





    Adam Butler, Portfolio Manager

  • "Recommended Reading."







    Jesse's Cafe Americain Blog

  • “All Who Are Still Holding Equities at Present Levels Because Their Financial Adviser Insists that Timing Market Cycles Is Impossible to Do -- Read This!"





    Juggling Dynamite Blog

  • "The Fact that Aggressive and Short-Term Market Timing Was Unproductive Did Not Mean That There Were Never Times When It Would Be Wealth-Maximizing to Get Out of the Market."



    Scott Burris,Director of the Center for
    Health Law, Policy and Practice

  • "The Amount of Return You Can Expect From a Diversified Equity Portfolio Is Inversely Correlated to the Market Valuation at the Start of the Holding Period. It Is One of the Most Robust Statistical Relationships in Modern Finance."




    Todd Tresidder, Financial Mentor Blog

  • "Why Would Your Job Be Jeopardized
    By Such a Sensible Claim?"





    Marcelle Chauvet, Econmics Professor
    at University of California

  • "Received Worrisome E-Mail from Rob Bennett. Warns of Risk with Buy-and-Hold Investing
    -- I Have No Clue."





    Vivek Wadhaw, Business Week Columnist

  • "As Attorney, Tax Expert and Financial Writer Rob Bennett Told Us, the Problem Is That, By the Time Shiller Published His Research, Many Big Names Had Already Endorsed Buy-and-Hold."




    ZeroHedge.com

  • "This Seems to Me to Be a Fundamental Challenge to Some of the Most Basic Tenets of the Boglehead Paradigm."






    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "You Want to be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected with Rob Bennett, the Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums on the Internet."





    Alex Fract, Owner of Bogleheads Forum

  • “I’ve Had My Fill of Those Long-Winded Posts that Include Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes and Comments Taken Out of Context.”




    Mel Lindauer, Co-Author of
    The Bogleheads Guide to Investing

  • "Haven't You Noticed Yet That NO ONE Discusses Your Ideas, NO ONE Mentions Your Name, NO ONE Goes To Your Web Site."





    One of the Greaney Goons

  • "I've Had Similar Experiences. I Know of Two Young Professors Who Wanted to Do Research on Fundamental Index and Reported to Me That Their Colleagues Advised Them That This Line of Research Could Derail Their Career Prospects."



    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "As with Drug Studies Funded by Drug Companies, It Would Be Churlish to Suppose that the Chicago School of Business Was in the Bag. But It Would Also Be Idealistic to Assume That There Was No Funding Bias at All."




    Bogleheads Poster

  • "This Sort of Intimidation Is Not Acceptable. The Cigarette and Pharmaceutical Industries Found Research Supporting Their Products By Funding It. But That Was Big Money Supporting Outcomes, Not Dissuading Others."




    Lyn Graham, 25-Year CPA

  • "Financial Economists Gave Little Warning to the Public About the Fragility of Their Models. There Is No Ethical Code for Professional Economic Scientists. There Should Be One."



    Paper Titled The Financial Crisis and
    the Systemic Failure of Academic Economics

  • "The Situation [Referring to the Intimidation Tactics Used to Silence Academic Researcher Wade Pfau's Reporting of the Dangers of Buy-and-Hold Investing Strategies] Seems Well Below Any Professional and Academic Acceptable Standards."



    Albert Sanchez Graells, Law Lecturer

  • Many Academics Can Become Quite Strident When Their Views Are Challenged. Academia Is Often Subject to Self-Serving Bias That Obliterates Ethical Bounds."





    Ted Sichelman, Law Professor

  • "I Don't Like Too Much the Conspiracy Idea. I Am Not Pressured By Anyone in My Research."






    Roberto Reno, Economics Professor

  • "This Is What Investing Should Be -- Calculated, Deliberate, Confident, Informed and Simple."






    Aaron Friday, Owner of Aaron's Blob Blog

  • "It Is Obvious that Rob, in Attempting to Identify New Safe Withdrawal Rate Strategies...Is Goring Your Ox. If Rob Improves on [the] Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology, the Implication Is Clear: You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business."



    Bogleheads Poster

  • "I Applaud His Effort to Inject Another Piece of Objectivity Into a Very Complex, Highly Subjective Topic -- Making Money in the Market."





    Bogleheads Poster

  • "Naturally, I Am Finding That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Allow You to Reach a Wealth Target With a Lower Saving Rate and to Use a Higher Withdrawal Rate in Retirement Than You Could With a Fixed Allocation."



    Wade Pfau, Professor of Retirement Income
    at The American College

  • "A Careful Examination of Past Returns Can Establish Some Probabilities About the Prospective Parameters of Return, Offering Intelligent Investors a Basis for Rational Expectations About Future Returns."




    Jack Bogle, Founder of Vanguard Funds

  • "The Ability to Estimate the Long-Term Future Returns of the Major Asset Classes Is Perhaps the Most Important Investment Skill That An Indivisual Can Possess."




    William Bernstein, Author of The Four Pillars of Investing

  • "The Stock Market Resembles Roulette. In Both Cases, the Accuracy of Sensible Forecasts Rises Over Time."






    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "Returns Are for the Most Part a Matter of Simple Arithmetic...Much of Our Industry Seems Fearful of Basic Arithmetic of This Sort."





    Rob Arnott, Financial Analysts Journal Editor

  • "How Can It Be That One-Year Returns Are So Apparantly Random and Yet Ten-Year Returns Are Mostly Forecastable? In Looking at One-Year Returns, One Sees a Lot of Noise. But Over Longer Time Intervals the Noise Effectively Averages Out and Is Less Important."




    Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller

  • "The Notion That Rich Valuations Will Not Be Followed By Sub-Par Long-Term Returns Is a Speculative Idea That Runs Counter to All Historical Evidence. It Is an Iron Law of Finance That Valuations Drive Long-Term Returns."




    John Hussman

  • "It's January and the Temperature Is Below Freezing. If You Asked Me Whether It Will be Warmer or Cooler Next Tuesday, I Would Be Unable to Say. However, If You Asked Me What Temperature to Expect on April 9, I Could Predict "Warmer Than Today" and Almost Surely Be Right."



    Michael Alexanfer, Author of Stock Cycles

  • "If the Response Is "Who Knew?", It Won't Be Much Comfort for Retirees in the Employment Line at Wal-Mart. This is Especially True Since a Rational Understanding of History and the Drivers of Longer-Term Stock Returns Can Help Retirees To Avoid That Surprise."




    Ed Easterling, Author of Unexpected Returns

  • "New of the Demise of the Random Walk Has Only Very Slowly Spread, In Part Because Its Overthrow Came as a Shock. If the Random Walk Hypothesis Were Correct, the Most Likely Return Would Be the Historic Average Return. The Evidence, However, Is Strongly Against This."



    Andrew Smithers, Co-Author of Valuing Wall Street

  • "I Don't Think We Can Debate the Merits of This Type of Forecasting [Referring to the Numbers Generated by The Stock-Return Predictor] Unless We Believe 'This Time It's Different.'"



    Poster at Bogleheads Forum
    (Before the Ban on Honest Posting Was Adopted There)

  • "I've Seen Absolutely Nothing From You That I Can Use in a Tangible Fashion to Formulate an Investment Plan. Your Ideas Are So Mushy That It's a Complete Waste of Time to Even Consider Them."




    Bogleheads Forum Poster

  • "Do You Really Think Your Tool
    [The Stock-Return Predictor]
    Is 'Wiser' Than the Market?
    If It Was That Easy,
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  • "I've Seen Things Said on Investing Boards That I Have Never Heard Said in Discussions of Any Non-Investing Topic. The Question of Whether Valuations Affect Long-Term Returns Is a Topic That Causes People More Emotional Angst Than Does Abortion or Impeachment Proceedings or the War in Iraq."



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  • "It's Not Possible For Those Who Have Come to Believe That Stocks Are Always Best to Accept that Valuations Matter. The Two Beliefs Are Mutually Exclusive. If Valuations Matter, There Is Obviously Some Valuation Level At Which Stocks Are Not Best. The Two Paradigms Cannot Be Reconciled."


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  • "I Cite You and John Walter Russell in My Paper as the Earliest and Strongest Advocates of This Approach [New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research]."




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  • "What Studies Show This [That Long-Term Timing Doesn't Work]? In Particular, Are There Some Academic Studies That I Haven't Found Yet? That's All I Want to Know."




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  • "Because the Precise Timing of This Mean Reversion Is Not Known in Advance, Expecting the Result to Happen in the Short-Term Will Not Be Possible. But Long-Term Investors Who Can Be Patient Can Wait for This Mean Reversion and Will Eventually Come Out Ahead."




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  • "Having a Completely Ineleastic Demand for Equities Is a Bit Bonkers. No One Acts That Way with Life's Other Important Commodities. Campbell Advocates a Linear Valuations-Based Strategy so That You Wouldn't Be Making Big Changes. This Would Be Like Rebalancing But More Flexible."



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  • "The Whole Idea of Valuation-Informed Indexing Belongs to You. Do You Mind if I call the Paper 'Valuation-Informed Indexing'? I Would Give You Credit. I Have Been Toying With the Idea of Sending the Paper to the Journal of Finance, Which Is the Most Prestigious Journal in Academic Finance."


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The First Retirement Calculator That Gets the Numbers Right

March 26, 2012 by Rob


 

A. The Peter Lynch Fallacy

 

It was less than two decades ago when famed Magellan Fund Manager Peter Lynch believed that retirees invested heavily in stocks could realistically expect to be able to withdrawal an inflation-adjusted 6.5 percent of their portfolio value to cover each year’s living expenses. That’s the average long-term real return for stocks. The Lynch logic was that, if your portfolio is earning that much each year, you should be able take that amount out each year without diminishing the value of the portfolio. It makes intuitive sense, no?

It doesn’t work like that.

Stocks suffered a price drop of 80 percent real in the years following the 1929 crash. Say that you retire with a portfolio valued at $1 million and a plan to live on $65,000 per year. Over the next four years, your portfolio value drops almost to $200,000 as a result of a dramatic price drop. Your withdrawals cause another minus of $260,000. You’re busted! Before Year Five begins!

Today’s retirement calculators (and the retirement planning advice offered by most retirement planners) is rooted in research done to quantify the effect of the critically important factor ignored by Lynch (to his credit, Lynch acknowledged the error when it was brought to his attention) — stock volatility. There is all the difference in the world between an average return of 6.5 percent real and a smooth return of 6.5 percent real. The volatility of stock prices greatly complicates retirement planning.

 

B. The Old School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research

 

Only the super-rich can afford to abstain from investing in stocks in retirement. There are times when it is hard to find super-safe asset classes (such as Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities [TIPS], IBonds, and Certificates of Deposit) paying a return better than 2 percent real. The retiree seeking to cover annual living expenses of $60,000 can achieve his goal with savings of $1 million invested in an asset class paying a return of 6 percent real but would require savings of $3 million to do so if he were invested solely in an asset class paying a return of only 2 percent real.

So most retirees need to be open to investing in stocks. But retirees investing in stocks must be wary. Their safe withdrawal rate (the inflation-adjusted amount that they can take out of their portfolios with virtual assurance that their portfolios will survive 30 years) is often not anything close to the average return earned by their investments. To construct successful retirement plans, we need to know how much the price volatility of stocks reduces the safe withdrawal rate from what it would be in a world in which stocks provided their average return smoothly.

This is the question that safe withdrawal rate research — the research on which retirement calculators are based — seeks to answer. The methodology used in the Old School research is analytically invalid and thus the retirement calculators get the numbers wrong. However, before discussing what the Old School safe withdrawal rate studies get wrong, I need to explain the important insights that they developed as these insights laid the foundation for the even more exciting insights being developed today by the New School safe withdrawal rate research used to develop The Retirement Risk Evaluator, the simple retirement calculator that is the focus of this Google Knol.

The most famous of the Old School studies is the Trinity study. Another notable study is the study done by John Greaney and presented at his www.RetireEarlyHomePage.com web site. Yet a third Old School study is the one done by California financial planner Bill Bengen. The most popular Old School calculator is FIRECalc, developed by Bill Sholar, former owner of the Early Retirement Forum.

The studies look at 30-year time-periods on the thinking that a retirement plan that begins when the retiree reaches age 65 has done the job if it remains in effect until he reaches age 95. The studies are often set up not to provide any slack. That is, the withdrawal rate they identify as “safe” is one that leaves at least $1 in the portfolio at age 95. Were the retiree to live past that age or to end up spending even a slightly larger amount than anticipated, the retirement could fail under the assumptions used in the studies. Retirees who want to include slack in their plans would need to employ withdrawal rates lower than those identified as safe in the Old School studies and calculators.

The studies look at each 30-year time-period going back as far as we have good records of stock performance (some examine the historical data going back to 1870, some only examine the historical data going back to the 1920s on the thinking that historical performance dating back farther than that is not terribly revealing as to what is likely to happen to a retirement taking place in the modern era).

The method for identifying the safe withdrawal rate used in the studies is to examine each withdrawal rate until one is found that does not cause a retirement failure in any of the 30-year time-periods that exist in the historical record. Withdrawal rates above 4 percent produce at least one failure for retirees going with high stock allocations. Thus, these withdrawal rates are deemed “unsafe.” Withdrawal rates of 4 percent and lower generate no failures. Thus, these withdrawal rates are deemed “safe.” It is this finding that is the basis for the famous (infamous?) “4 percent rule” that is commonly cited in the literature and in internet discussion-board threads.

 

C. Identifying the Risky Safe Withdrawal Rate

 

The studies generated five important insights, only one of which (the first of those noted below) has been widely recognized.

Insight #1 is that the penalty imposed by stock volatility is high. The safe withdrawal rate for an asset class that provided a smoothly delivered return of 6.5 real would be well in excess of 6.5 percent  (the safe withdrawal rate is higher than the return because the safe withdrawal rate calculation assumes that the portfolio balance may be reduced to zero over the course of the 30-year time-period; an asset class providing a zero return would offer a safe withdrawal rate of 3.3 percent under this assumption). But the Old School studies identify the safe withdrawal rate for a high-stock-allocation portfolio as only 4 percent (not much higher a safe withdrawal rate than the one that applies for an asset class paying a long-term return of zero percent).

Insight #2 is that stocks often offer a lower safe withdrawal rate than super-safe asset classes. As noted just above, even an asset class providing a zero return would provide a safe withdrawal rate of 3.3 percent real. In the late 1990s, Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS)  were offering a guaranteed return of 4 percent real. That translates into a safe withdrawal rate of 5.8 percent real, far higher than the 4 percent safe withdrawal rate claimed for stocks in these studies.

Insight #3 is that it is necessary to remove all slack from a retirement plan to push the safe withdrawal rate for stocks up even as high as 4 percent. The Old School studies are rooted in an assumption that the retirement portfolio may be entirely depleted at the end of 30 years. It is of course possible that a retiree could live beyond age 95 and might want to be sure that something remained in his portfolio account in that event. Or an early retiree might want to use these studies to identify the safe withdrawal rate for a retirement that would need to last 40 or even 50 years. Or a retiree might be concerned that circumstances could develop that would cause him to need to or to want to spend more than he planned to spend on the day he developed his plan. Planning for such contingencies would require using a lower withdrawal rate. Even for those who accept the Old School studies as analytically valid (I do not, for reasons described below), there is reason to question whether the withdrawal rate identified as “safe” truly satisfies the demands of the concept. A truly safe retirement plan contains some slack to cover unexpected developments. It could fairly be said that what the Old School retirement studies and retirement calculators identify is the risky safe withdrawal rate.

Insight #4 is that it is necessary to employ unreasonable assumptions to push the safe withdrawal rate for stocks as high as 4 percent. The Old School studies assume that retirees will not withdrawal even one dollar from their stock portfolios even in the event of a devastating stock crash. Stocks suffered an 80 percent price drop in the years following the 1929 crash. A price drop of 80 percent would cause a high-stock-allocation portfolio of $1 million to fall in value almost down to $200,000 (the loss would be less than $800,000 because the portfolio would not be entirely comprised of stocks) and five years of $40,000 withdrawals would eat away the remaining funds. In the two cases in the historical record in which the issue came up, stocks recovered before retirees following The 4 Percent Rule went under. But it is unlikely that one retiree in 100 would not lower his stock allocation in such circumstances (and these are the very sorts of circumstances that retirees seeking to learn what it takes to plan a safe retirement are seeking to address in their retirement planning efforts!).

This always dubious assumption was shown to be patently dangerous with the reaction of several financial planners to the crash of late 2008. William Bengen, the author of one of the Old School studies, advised his clients to go to stock allocations of zero in the wake of the crash. Taylor Larimore, the author of the book The Bogleheads Guide to Investing, reversed himself on years of preaching that investors should stick with their stock allocations during a price drop, saying that he all along had a “Plan B” of going in such circumstances to a zero stock allocation; never once in his book or in the tens of thousands of posts he put to discussion boards in the years prior to the crash had Larimore let those planning their retirements pursuant to his investment advice know about “Plan B”.

Behavior of which even big name experts are not capable should not be assumed of all investors in studies purporting to identify safe withdrawal rates. The numbers in the Old School studies do not apply in the event that the retiree sells even a single share of stock in the wake of a price crash. It could fairly be said that what the Old School retirement studies and retirement calculators identify is the very risky safe withdrawal rate.

Insight #5 follows from consideration of the earlier four insights: Investing “experts” are loathe to acknowledge the extent of the dangers of investing in stocks in “studies” published in the heat of out-of-control bull markets. The true safe withdrawal rate is clearly sometimes a number a great deal lower than 4 percent.

The authors of the conventional studies are to be applauded for highlighting the Peter Lynch fallacy; it is generally accepted today that the safe withdrawal rate for retirees heavily invested in stocks can be as low as 4 percent. But I think it is fair to say that the Old School studies are the product of a huge pro-stock bias on the part of the researchers (presumably one of which they are not entirely conscious). Choices made in the development of the methodology used in the studies were consistently ones that push the safe withdrawal rate for a high-stock-allocation portfolio higher than what it it would be if more reasonable assumptions were employed.

The finding that the safe withdrawal rate for stocks is 4 percent was shocking. Had the studies been developed in more scientific ways, the findings generated would have been knock-your-socks-off alarming for Buy-and-Hold stock investors.

 

D. Science Goes Out the Window in Bull Markets

 

I come not to bury stocks but to praise them.

And I come not to bury the experts responsible for the Old School retirement planning studies but to praise them too.

I know that I sound critical. I need to sound critical because it is imperative that these studies be corrected. There are millions of middle-class investors who are likely going to suffer failed retirements in days to come as a result of the analytical errors (both those noted above and the even more serious one to be discussed below) driving them. But I also believe that in fairness it needs to be said that the researchers were constrained from doing accurate research by a powerful force — the widespread belief in the Buy-and-Hold Model for understanding how stock investing works.

Buy-and-Hold became dominant in the 1960s and 1970s. Yale Professor Robert Shiller published research in 1981 showing Buy-and-Hold to be  the opposite of what works (Shiller’s research shows that the key to long-term investing success is not avoiding stock allocation changes but being willing to make those allocation changes demanded of those aiming to keep their risk profiles roughly constant when valuations change dramatically) . Leaders in the field found it impossible to accept the implications of Shiller’s research and have held back from doing so to this day (please see my Google Knols entitled “Why Buy-and-Hold Investing Can Never Work” and “The Bull Market Caused the Economic Crisis” for background). During this time-period serious questioning of the Buy-and-Hold Model was viewed as grounds for social ostracism (Shiller has pointed out that those who understand the effect of valuations often fail to share all they know because the many numbers-obsessed experts who work in this field view it as “unprofessional” to consider emotion-based factors [all overvaluation and undervaluation is caused by investor emotion]). The watered-down findings of the Old School research were viewed as bad news from a marketing perspective by many in the environment created by the most out-of-control bull market ever seen in U.S. history. Had the safe withdrawal rate researchers followed their examinations of the historical data where the science led them, their findings would have blown the roof off of the house. They should have done so. They would have been heroes had they done so. But asking perfection of any of the flawed humans (that’s all of us) is asking a lot. Many of us would have felt temptations to employ methodologies that slanted the results in favor of stocks had we been put in similar circumstances.

Stock investing is an intensely emotional endeavor. Scientific research is theoretically an objective endeavor. The effort to employ science in the development of a better-informed investment analysis was an important and promising one but one comprised of traps for the researchers participating in it that were not recognized at the time the effort got underway. The short version of my message here is — Had the researchers told the blunt truth about what the historical data says about the safety of stocks in a retirement portfolio in the middle of an insane bull market, they would have been hung from a tree! Please read up on the reaction that I have seen to the work I have done in this field if you have thoughts that I am exaggerating. I know whereof I speak re this matter.

The Old School research was published at a time when stocks were (nearly) universally loved with a burning passion. The job that the researchers took on was to report dispassionately on the message of the historical data re the safety of stocks in a retirement portfolio. The message is extremely discouraging for stock enthusiasts. Cognitive dissonance kicked in and they did the best they could in exceedingly difficult circumstances, which was a good bit better than anything that had been done by anyone coming before them but a good bit less than what we need to demand if we are to help aspiring retirees craft retirement plans with good prospects for long-term success.

 

E. The New School Safe Withdrawal Rate Research

 

The problem that the researchers faced is that the data says that stock are a truly terrible investment choice for retirees. But that cannot be! We cannot steer retirees away from stocks. To do so will delay their retirements by many years. There must be another way!

There is another way, a way that does not require the dangerous (and — let’s be blunt — ethically dubious) fudging evidenced in the Old School studies. The other way is to reject the premises of the Buy-and-Hold Model and look at the question of the riskiness of using stocks in a retirement portfolio in a fresh way.

Retirees need to invest in stocks. The cost of avoiding the high returns associated with stocks is too great to do otherwise. But the data shows that price volatility is so great that stocks are not suitable for retirees. We need to figure out a way to smooth returns for retirees and thereby become able to recommend that they invest in stocks without continuing to deceive them about what the historical data says.

It can be done! The answer is to let retirees know that they need to avoid stocks when their price volatility presents a real danger while investing heavily in stocks when this is not the case. Buy-and-Hold is rooted in a premise that stock returns are not predictable. This premise was discredited by Shiller’s research but the discrediting was ignored by Buy-and-Hold advocates concerned that acknowledging it would mean rewriting their books and restructuring their calculators and generally acknowledging that they did not know all there is to know about stocks going back to the first day they began studying the matter.

Shiller’s research has been largely ignored by researchers with an emotional attachment to stocks because stocks have been insanely overvalued for almost all of the time-period stretching from 1996 through today. During times of insane overvaluation, taking valuations into account in investment research makes stocks look not as exciting as they would look if the research ignored this critically important factor.

But prices have crashed in recent years and are likely to crash again sometime over the next few years in the event that stocks continue to perform in the future anything at all as they always have in the past (stock prices have dropped to half of fair value in the wake of all previous trips to insane levels of overvaluation — the economic destruction that results when millions of investors have no idea of their true wealth and thus engage in millions of ill-considered spending and saving decisions has in the past always caused enough panic to bring stock prices far lower than what they would have been had they not for a time been pumped up to unsustainable levels). Considering valuations at times when stocks are insanely underpriced has the opposite effect of considering valuations at times when stocks are insanely overpriced. When prices are low, analytically valid research makes stocks look better than they appear using the analytically invalid methodology used in the conventional studies. After the next crash, there will not be much marketing purpose served by misstating the safe withdrawal rate. We may soon be entering a time when stock analysts will feel free for the first time since investment analysis became a scientific endeavor to report accurately the numbers that we all use to plan our retirements.

It will then be socially acceptable for all researchers to consider the effect of valuations. Those already doing so today are the pioneers of the New School of safe withdrawal rate research.

 

F. The Safe Withdrawal Rate Varies with Changes in Valuation Levels

 

What if Shiller is right, what if valuations really do affect long-term returns? If that were so and if we gave ourselves permission to report the numbers accurately, our troubles would be solved. If that were so (there is now a mountain of data showing that it is — but sssh! Don’t upset the “experts” by saying this out loud!), it would be possible to tell retirees a way to invest in stocks without taking on much more risk than they would be taking on by investing only in super-safe asset classes like TIPS and IBonds and Certificates of Deposit.

Shiller’s research shows that valuations affect long-term returns. If that’s so, then the value proposition provided by stocks changes with changes in valuation levels — stocks do not provide the same returns in exchange for an investor’s willingness to take on risk at all times but greater returns in exchange for taking on less risk at some valuation levels compared to others. The implications are far reaching, far reaching enough to identify Shiller’s finding as the most exciting breakthrough in our understanding of how stock investing works in history.

What if we identified the valuation levels at which stocks make sense for retirees and advised them to invest heavily in stocks only when they were available at those valuation levels? Our problem would be solved. Retirees could still take advantage of the juicy returns offered by stocks because the extreme valuation time-periods that cause all the trouble are rare and would never apply for the entire length of a retirement. But they could do so by taking on only a fraction of the risk that they are required to take on when investing pursuant to the Buy–and-Hold model (which encourages investors to ignore valuation levels when setting their stock allocations and thus to remain at the high stock allocations that make sense at times when stocks are priced reasonably even when stocks are priced to crash).

Taking the price at which stocks are selling into consideration when setting your stock allocation is a way of smoothing out the return offered by this asset class. An investor who invests heavily in stocks at times when they are selling at low prices will obviously earn a return higher than the 6.5 percent average long-term return, which is the return that applies at times of moderate prices. Obtaining a return higher than the average return during times of low prices counters for the lower return obtained at times when stocks are selling at dangerously high prices and the investor is forced to move to safer asset classes until stocks are again available at prices that do not require him to take on levels of risk that he is not able to tolerate. In contrast, the Buy-and-Hold investor at some times is taking on far less risk than what is suitable for someone of his risk tolerance and at other times taking on far more risk than is suitable for someone of his risk tolerance, obviously not an ideal approach to managing risk.

It turns out that the best way for an investor to manage risk is to be willing to take into consideration the biggest factor affecting risk, the factor that may not be taken into consideration for marketing reasons by those in The Stock-Selling Industry at times when stocks are insanely overpriced.

 

G. FIRECalc Tells the Tale

 

Are you up for an illuminating mental exercise? Please open a second window on your internet browser and pull up the FIRECalc retirement calculator in it. Enter a withdrawal rate of 5 percent or 6 percent, one sufficiently higher than the purported safe withdrawal rate of 4 percent to generate a good number of retirement failures. Look at the retirement failures generated and see if you can identify a common theme.

The common theme is — they all are retirements that begin in years of high valuations. It is not price volatility in general that causes retirement failures, it is only price volatility that evidences itself at times of high valuations that causes trouble. Why? Price volatility that takes place at times of reasonable valuations is a harmless phenomena; in the event that volatility causes stocks to drop to prices much below fair value, the Reversion to the Mean phenomenon will in a few years cause them to come back — the losses suffered in price drops from fair value are temporary. In contrast, price drops suffered at times of high valuations are permanent; they are a paying back of artificial price gains obtained by a borrowing from future returns. It is not the ownership of stocks that makes a retirement plan risky. It is the ownership of high-priced stocks that make a retirement plan risky.

This makes perfect sense. Think what stock overvaluation signifies. It signifies that the nominal price being cited is not the accurate price. When stocks are priced at three times fair value, as they were in January 2000, a portfolio of $1 million does not provide $1 million in long-term buying power. It provides about $350,000 in long-term buying power. The other $650,000 is cotton-candy nothingness fated to be blown away in the wind as the stock price works its way back to fair value (Reversion to the Mean is an “Iron Law” of stock investing, according to Vanguard Founder John Bogle).

In 1982, stocks were priced at one-half fair value. Someone retiring at that time with a portfolio nominally valued at $1 million possessed stocks with a long-term value of not $350,000 (as did the retiree who retired with a $1 million portfolio in 2000) or $1 million (as did the retiree who retired at a time of fair-value prices) but of $2 million. A retiree starting with a portfolio value of $2 million is obviously in far better shape than a retiree starting with a portfolio value of $350,000. Is there any argument that can be made that the same withdrawal rate is safe for both of these retirees? My feeble brain is not capable of imagining one. Perhaps I need to spend more time learning about Alpha and Beta and Yabba Dabba Do!

The Old School studies claim that a 4 percent withdrawal is safe for retirements beginning at all possible valuation levels. But the idea that there could be any one safe withdrawal rate that would apply at all valuation levels is a logical impossibility in the event that valuations affect long-term returns. The only way that the Old School studies could be said to get the numbers right is if the Efficient Market Theory were proven out. This theory, which posits that investors always price stocks properly, was popular among academics in the 1960s and 1970s but has been discredited by the last 30 years of research.

 

H. The Valuation Level Applying When the Retirement Begins Is the Biggest Factor Affecting Retirement Safety

 

The valuation level that applies on he day the retirement begins is  the single biggest factor bearing on the safety or lack thereof of the retirement plan. The Old School studies,  developed in accord with the premises of the Buy-and-Hold Model, ignore this factor. Thus, the studies get all the numbers wildly wrong. And the retirement calculators based on these studies also get all the numbers wrong. We need a newfangled sort of retirement calculator!

Enter The Retirement Risk Evaluator. (Please open The Retirement Risk Evaluator on the window in your internet browser used earlier to open the FIRECalc calculator).

This simple retirement calculator’s default numbers (the numbers that appear before you enter any numbers of your own for the calculator to process) show the safe withdrawal rate that applies in four scenarios. To make the four sets of results comparable, the same assumptions have been chosen for three of the factors considered by the calculator (the return for the non-stock asset class, the stock allocation percentage, and the portfolio balance required at the end of the 30-year time-period examined by the calculator). The only difference is that Scenario One reports the safe withdrawal rate that applies for a retirement that begins at a time when the P/E10 value is 8 (an insanely low valuation level); Scenario Two reports the safe withdrawal rate that applies for a retirement that begins at a time when the P/E10 value is 14 (the fair-value P/E10 level); Scenario Three reports the safe withdrawal rate that applies for a retirement that begins at a time when the P/E10 value is 26 (an insanely high valuation level); and Scenario Four reports the safe withdrawal rate that applies for a retirement that begins at a time when the P/E10 value is 44 (the P/E10 value that applied in January 2000, the highest valuation level on record in the United States).

The safe withdrawal rates are: (1) 9.13 (the low valuation scenario); (2) 5.41 (the fair-value valuation scenario); (3) 3.12 (the high valuation scenario); and (4) 2.02 (the January 2000 valuation scenario). Given these results (obtained by running a regression analysis on the historical stock-return data to determine the effect that valuations have had on long-term returns throughout the historical record), I think it is fair to say that valuations matter when putting together a retirement plan.

 

I. Retirement Planning Is A Community Endeavor

 

I also think it would be fair to say that any retirement calculator that fails to include an adjustment for the valuation level that applies on the day the retirement begins is analytically invalid and needs to be corrected before it causes more failed retirements. I urge both all experts and all ordinary investors to insist that the authors of the discredited studies and calculators correct them promptly. I also ask your assistance in publicizing The Retirement RIsk Evaluator. We all benefit when aspiring retirees learn how to plan their retirements more effectively. Please help get the word out.

Please scroll down the calculator page to read background on how it was developed and on how it works. At the bottom of the page, there are links to several articles providing more in-depth guidance. You also might want to check out RobCast #189, “The Retirement Risk Evaluator,” in which I discuss in some depth the workings of the calculator and the benefits it provides. After checking out those materials and working the calculator a bit, you may have questions or comments or suggestions. Please forward them to me. The Retirement Risk Evaluator was developed with help from hundreds of my fellow community members. Our work has not necessarily come to an end. I’d like to see us make the calculator an even more powerful retirement planning tool.

I also would be grateful if you would do what you can to help us reopen the many boards and blogs that have adopted a Ban on Honest Posting on safe withdrawal rates to sincere and helpful and informed discussions of retirement planning and other important investment-related topics. Each failed retirement is a failure not only for the investor whose retirement goes bust, but also for the entire community of investors who failed to demand better of those claiming expertise in this field. Experts should be able to get the basic retirement planning numbers right. I mean, come on!

We all benefit from being able to engage in honest and informed discussions of investing with each other. We all have a role to play in changing the environment in which investing advice is offered so that our understanding of how stock investing works continues to improve over time.

You can help!

Please get involved!

And —

Good luck with your own retirement planning efforts!

 

Filed Under: Risk Evaluator

The Bull Market Caused the Economic Crisis

March 26, 2012 by Rob

We lost $12 trillion in funny money. The conventional explanations of the economic crisis that began in late 2008 are unsatisfying. A more compelling explanation is that the bull market of the late 1990s is the primary cause. The bull market caused stocks to be overvalued by $12 trillion and the inevitable return to fair-value prices has taken that amount of wealth out of the pockets of middle-class investors.

 

A) The Obvious Explanation Is Being Ignored

 

The economic crisis that began in late 2008 has transformed life in the United States. Millions have lost their jobs. Millions are experiencing a fading of their hopes of being able to finance good retirements. Millions of marriages are under stress. Much of the public responded negatively to President Obama’s health reform initiative largely because of a resentment that our political leaders are failing to address the more serious problem. The Tea Party Movement has flowered as a means for ordinary people to express their discontent with the economic and political leaders who have failed to find constructive answers to the nation’s most serious problems.

The claim that it was bankers who caused the economic crisis does not persuade, at least not in a complete way. The question “How precisely did the bankers do this to us?” has never been answered by those seeking to make the bankers the fall guys. Nor is the claim that it was a loosening of mortgage rules that did all the damage convincing. Could mortgage rules, no matter how misguided, really have played the primary role in bringing the global economy to its knees? The two conventional explanations of the economic crisis can fairly be dismissed as exercises in political opportunism (with those coming from one side of the spectrum of political opinion favoring the former explanation and those coming from the other side of the spectrum of political opinion favoring the latter explanation).

There is a simple and compelling explanation for our troubles that is rarely discussed. The bull market of the late 1990s pushed stock prices to three times fair value. That translates into $12 trillion of funny money. Presuming that stock prices are always fated to revert to the mean (Vanguard Founder John Bogle describes Reversion to the Mean as an “Iron Law” of stock investing), we set ourselves up for the loss of $12 trillion in spending power once the bull market came to an end. It’s not hard to understand why that would bring on an economic crisis. So why not pay heed to Occam’s Razor and accept the simplest explanation as the most likely one?

 

B) All Earlier Out-of-Control Bull Markets Caused Economic Crises

 

A strong case gets stronger when you take into account the message of the historical stock-return data. Yale Professor Robert Shiller reports in his book Irrational Exuberance that there have been four times in the history of the U.S. market when stocks reached insanely dangerous price levels: (1) the early 1900s; (2) the late 1920s; (3) the mid-1960s; and (4) the late 1990s. On each of those occasions, we experienced a stock crash. We have never experienced a stock crash of lasting significance starting from a time when stock prices had not gone to insanely dangerous levels. And on each of those occasions (and not on any other occasion) we also experienced an economic crisis. The correlation is perfect.

It would appear that bull markets cause stock crashes and that stock crashes cause economic crises. It is not even a tiny bit difficult to understand why this would be so. Price affects the value proposition of every single thing on Planet Earth that can be bought or sold. Why should anyone think it would be any different with stocks? If the price of stocks affects the value proposition obtained by buying them, it logically follows that the risk of price crashes must be much higher when stocks are selling at insanely high prices. Should it come as any surprise whatsoever to learn that the entire historical record shows this indeed to be the case?

And of course stock crashes are strongly correlated to economic crises. When stock prices crash, trillions of dollars disappear from the economy. Businesses obviously cannot afford to employ as many workers when so much less money is available to the consumers of their products. Mass unemployment of course causes consumers to cut back on spending even more. The puzzle would be if bull markets did not cause price crashes or if price crashes did not cause economic crises.

It is easy in an intellectual sense to explain why we are today enduring an economic crisis. A big question remains, however. Why have we not acknowledged the obvious cause of the crash? Coming to know the true cause of the economic crisis would be an important step to overcoming it. Why do we pretend to ourselves that it is these other relatively inconsequential matters that are the causes? The remaining words of this Knol are aimed at clicking this last piece of the puzzle into place.

 

C) Discussion of the Flaws of Buy-and-Hold Is Prohibited

 

There was recently a discussion of the question of what happened to the trillions of lost money at the www.Bogleheads.org discussion board. The thread-starter there refers to $7 trillion in lost money because the poster is trying to understand only what happened to the money lost in the recent stock crash. The full amount of overvaluation that applied at the top of the bubble was roughly $12 trillion but we are today only a little more than halfway through the process of paying back the debt we incurred to future investors (Today’s investors! Us!) when we permitted stock prices to go to the insanely dangerous levels they went to in the bull market of the late 1990s.

Please note that this thread generated a good number of intelligent comments and zero abusive posting and yet was shut down by the owners of the board. The question of what happened to all the money lost in the crash is clearly an exceedingly sensitive one for the owners of the www.Bogleheads.org board.

The trouble is that the leaders of the www.Bogleheads.org forum often push Buy-and-Hold investing strategies. The thread does indeed raise troubling questions about Buy-and-Hold. Please note that Alex Frakt, one of the site owners, answers the question posed in the thread-starter in the post in which he announces the shutdown of the thread. He explains that the $7,000,000,000,000 that middle-class people were thinking could be used to finance their retirements only existed “on paper.” Frakt is of course correct. There was no conspiracy (as was suggested in some of the comments). No one took the money. It disappeared. It went “Poof!” But it didn’t have to go anywhere to disappear. It never existed in the first place except in a paper sense!

This is the risk of stock investing. It is the only substantial risk. When you own a share of a U.S. index fund, you own a share of an economy that has been reliably generating profits sufficient to provide 6.5 percent annual real returns for as far back as we have records (1870). What the heck could be risky about owning a share of that? The risky part is that from time to time large numbers of people come to believe that it is not necessary to take price into consideration when buying stocks. That removes all price discipline from the market. That causes price levels to rise so high that the inevitable return to fair value (stocks must in the long run be priced properly or the entire market would collapse — it is the purpose of a market to price the things being sold within it properly) crushes us. So long as most of us hold on to our common sense stocks are a wonderful asset class. They become dangerous only when large numbers of us come to believe that Buy-and-Hold (ignoring price when setting your stock allocation) can work.

Stock risk is concentrated. There are times (times of moderate valuations) when the risk of investing in stocks is minimal. And there are times when stocks are extremely risky.

This is very good news for investors. It means that we can obtain the wonderful returns associated with stock investing without having to take on the high levels of risk that most today believe apply for stocks at all times; all we need to do is to opt out of participation once out-of-control bull markets develop. But it is perceived as very bad news by most of those who have long advocated Buy-and-Hold. It means that they have been advocating the opposite of what works for many years now. The “experts” have been telling us to stick with the same stock allocation at all times when they should have been telling us to be certain never to give in to the emotional impulse that makes us want to deceive ourselves into thinking that that could work.

The confusion over whether the gains resulting from price increases greater than those justified by the economic realities are real or not has been with us since the first stock market opened for business. Because human investors possess the power to push stock prices up to whatever they want them to be in the short term, we have always found emotional appeal in “strategies” that assure us that those price increases represent something real. If only bull-market price increases were real, we could all vote ourselves raises simply by bidding stock prices up higher and higher. The problem with following the emotionally appealing approach to investing is of course that the economic realities always triumph in the end.

Frakt shut down the thread because he was concerned that, if the middle-class investors seeking to learn about investing by reading the www.Bogleheads.org board were to put two and two together, they would figure out that Buy-and-Hold can never work. Stocks sooner or later are going to be selling at wildly inflated prices and so those following a Buy-and-Hold strategy sooner or later are going to be going with wildly inappropriate stock allocations. That’s obviously not a smart strategy.

Buy-and-Hold Investing is Get Rich Quick Investing. It is the universal human desire for “money for nothing” that makes us want to believe that there might somewhere be an alternate universe where failing to take the price of stocks into consideration before buying them would work. It’s hard for us to believe that because we all possess a capacity for human reason as well as an inclination to let our emotions cancel it out. Every now and again, though, there comes along a new means of rationalizing the emotional approach. When a compelling one comes along (the idea that has been promoted in recent decades, that there is academic research that supports Buy-and-Hold, is the most compelling case for emotional investing ever and indeed it produced the most insane stock prices ever seen in U.S. history), we are on our way to an out-of-control bull market and the economic crisis that inevitably will follow.

 

D) The Conventional Investing Wisdom of Today Is Rooted in “Myth and Urban Legend”

 

Buy-and-Hold is the problem. Buy-and-Hold produced the bull market and the bull market caused the economic crisis. But Buy-and-Hold was endorsed by very smart people who are not in it for the money — this model is rooted in a wealth of academic research of high quality. If Buy-and-Hold Investing is emotional investing, how is it that people who engage in research for a living became convinced that it was the best and the most rational and the most scientific way to go?

Our knowledge of how investing works is today primitive. In earlier days most of us did not have enough money to need to worry about funding our retirement plans; we worked until we died or became so old and sick that we could not do so and had to rely on our families for support. So we didn’t concern ourselves much with learning the realities of stock investing. It is only from the 1960s forward that we have engaged in systematic efforts to rationalize the investing project. Buy-and-Hold is not a finished masterwork, the final summation of all that we have learned about investing from hundreds of years of study. It is a first-draft effort, helpful in important ways, a huge step forward from where we were before, but a gravely flawed model in need of correction as weaknesses are discovered and new insights taking us to better places are developed.

There are many elements of the Buy-and-Hold package of ideas that have stood the test of time. The idea that investors should be focused on the long-term is pure gold. The idea that short-term timing (changing your stock allocation with the expectation that you will see a benefit for doing so within a year or so) doesn’t work checks out. The idea that transaction costs should be limited makes all the sense in the world. The idea that stocks are generally the best asset class for the middle-class investor stands up to informed scrutiny. But the idea that investors do not need to change their stock allocations in response to big price changes is wrong (or at least so the academic research of the past 30 years indicates). And this error is so fundamental that it poisons all the rest. The idea of researching the historical stock-return data to learn what really works was a masterstroke. The idea of pretending that we learned so much in the beginning days of that effort that we never again would need to question ourselves or reconsider seemingly settled matters has revealed itself to be The Greatest Mistake in the History of Personal Finance.

The analytical error that caused the economic crisis goes by the name of “The Efficient Market Theory.” The idea that investors do not need to change their stock allocations when stocks become insanely overpriced is obviously a counter-intuitive one. How did so many smart and good people come to view Buy-and-Hold as a prudent way to invest? They fell in love with a theory that promised to rationalize stock investing for the first time in history. They fell sufficiently in love with the theory to be willing to abandon common sense in deference to it and to cling stubbornly to their belief in it even in the wake of a mountain of evidence showing them to be wrong to do so.

The Efficient Market Theory posits that the community of investors rationally considers all factors bearing on stock prices and thereby insures that the market price is never too far from fair value. If the Efficient Market Theory were valid, Buy-and-Hold really would work. If the market price is always roughly right, it is not possible to time the market, it is not possible to beat the market. If it is not possible to time the market (to know when stocks offer a good value proposition and when they do not), the only thing left to the investor trying to decide on a stock allocation is to consider the average long-term return and set his allocation accordingly. The average long-term return for U.S. stocks is 6.5 percent real. That beats the return offered by just about any other asset class. If the Efficient Market Theory were valid, investors would be doing the right thing in going with a high stock allocation and then just sticking with it.

The Efficient Market Theory has been entirely discredited since the days when it was employed as the foundation for the Buy-and-Hold approach and all the strategies that have been advocated under its name. Yale Professor Robert Shiller published research in 1981 showing that valuations affect long-term returns. If the market were efficient, overvaluation would be a nonsense concept (because the market price could never be far from fair value). Shiller’s research has been confirmed by a mountain of research published in the past 30 years.

It is of course common knowledge today among those who follow the academic literature that the Efficient Market Theory has been discredited and that Buy-and-Hold can never work:

 

1) “Myth and Urban Legend”

 

Rob Arnott, the former editor of the Financial Analysts Journal, has said that: “The conventional wisdom of modern investing is largely myth and urban legend.”

 

2) “Stocks Do Not Follow a Random Walk”

 

John Cochrane, a professor of Finance at the University of Chicago, said in the Wall Street Journal that: “30 years of research… [shows that] stocks do not follow a random walk.”

 

 

3) “Nutty”

 

Famed Investor Warren Buffett has said: “There’s so much that’s false and nutty in modern investing practice.”
 

4) “It Is Therefore Possible…To Know Whether Markets Are Overvalued”

 

Andrew Smithers, co-author of Valuing Wall Street, wrote: “”When tested, however, the Efficient Market Theory failed, as real equity returns do not follow a “random walk with drift” but exhibit negative serial correlation. This meant that sustained periods of real returns, which were above the very long-term average, were followed by below average returns and vice versa…. It is therefore possible, contrary to the Efficient Market Theory, to know whether markets are overvalued.”

 

5) “A Debate Won by the Side Whose Theories Turned Out To Be Wrong”

 

Anatole Kaletsky wrote in The Times that: “In the search for the ‘guilty men’ responsible for the collapse of the global economy, one obvious group has escaped blame: the economists…. It may be true that all bankers are greedy, all politicians venal, all regulators blind and all accountants stupid. But such personal failings do not explain their behavior in the past few years. After all, bankers do not like losing power. All these ‘guilty men’ behaved as they did because they thought it made sense. And why did these greedy bankers and stupid politicians hold beliefs that, in hindsight, seem so ludicrous and self-destructive?…. What the ‘madmen in authority’ were hearing this time was the echo of a debate that consumed academic economists in the 1960s and 1970s — a debate won by the side whose theories turned out to be wrong. This debate was about the ‘efficiency’ of markets and the ‘rationality’ of the investors, consumers and businesses who inhabit them…. So economics is on the brink of a paradigm shift. We are where astronomy was when Copernicus realized that the Earth revolves around the Sun. The academic economics of the past 20 years is comparable to pre-Copernican astronomy, with its mysterious heavenly cogs, epicycles and wheels within wheels or maybe even astrology, with its faith in star signs.”

 

E) We Have Not Yet Come to Emotional Acceptance of What We Intellectually Know to Be So

 

We “know” that Buy-and-Hold doesn’t work. But we also “know” that it does. We “know” two opposite things.

If we really “knew” that Buy-and-Hold didn’t work, the sorts of comments quoted above would have been front-page news when they were made. Arnott is saying that the investment advice that millions of middle-class workers are using to finance their retirements is rooted in “myth and urban legend.” And the New York Times has a more important story to run at the top of the front page on the morning after he advances that assessment? Huh?

The right way to say it is that intellectually we know that Buy-and-Hold cannot work. Emotionally, we have not yet permitted ourselves to process that knowledge. Shiller’s finding is the most far-reaching and the most exciting finding in the history of investment research. Now that we know that the market is not efficient and that overvaluation is both possible and detectable, we know how to greatly diminish the risk of stock investing. Buy lots of stocks when the risk is minimal and avoid buying lots of stocks when the risk is sky-high and you are obviously going to be able to retire years sooner than the investor going with the same stock allocation at all times. The logic chain here is rock-solid. The subtitle of Shiller’s book — “The National Bestseller That Revolutionized the Way We Think About the Stock Market” — is not hyperbole.

There’s an obstacle that blocks the path forward. The leap forward represented by Shiller’s research is so big that we have as a society not yet been able to take it in. We are suffering the most widespread case of cognitive dissonance yet on record.

 

F) “Valuation-Informed Indexing Is Everywhere Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over 10-Year Periods”

 

I have been the lead figure bringing about a series of discussions that have been held at scores of internet discussion boards and blogs over the past eight years (the discussions are collectively referred to as “The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Debate”). Set forth below is a sample of the comments made by the hundreds of people who appreciate the powerful investing insights (all rooted in Shiller’s revolutionary research) that we have developed during these discussions:

 

1) “The Evidence Is Pretty Incontrovertible”

 

Norbert Schlenkler, a financial planner and part owner of The Financial WebRing Forum, performed an analysis comparing Buy-and-Hold with Valuation-Informed Indexing (an investing strategy that combines Bogle’s indexing concept [perfect for the middle-class investor because of its simplicity] with Shiller’s valuation-matters finding [a required addition for those middle-class investors who do not want to suffer the fate that always awaits investors going with a purely emotional approach] — I argue that Bogle and Shiller go together like chocolate and peanut butter!) and concluded that: “The evidence is pretty incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing…is everywhere superior to Buy-and-Hold over 10-year periods.”

 

2) “Holy Toledo! This Is Great Stuff!”

 

Bill Schultheis, author of The New Coffeehouse Portfolio, exclaimed upon discovery of my web site: “Holy Toledo! This is great stuff!

 

3) “I Feel Like I’ve Found a Kindred Spirit”

 

Tom Behlmer, a Nevada City, CA financial planner wrote me that: “I have counseled my clients to allocate a percentage to equities based upon market valuations… I feel like I’ve found a kindred spirit. Fascinating web site.”

 

4) “It Is Consistent With Shiller’s Analysis and I Can See How It Could Be True”

 

Rajiv Sethie, a professor of economics at Columbia University, wrote at his blog that: “Rob Bennett makes the claim that market timing based on aggregate P/E ratios can be a far more effective strategy than passive investing over long horizons (ten years or more). I am not in a position to evaluate this claim empirically but it is consistent with Shiller’s analysis and I can see how it could be true.”

 

5) “What You Are Doing Has Huge Value”

 

Carl Richards, owner of Clearwater Asset Management, told me: “I have read everything I can about Valuation-Informed Indexing, and I agree with you that Buy-and-Hold Passive Investing is extremely problematic… I value and respect the passion, hard work and research that you have put into this very important issue…. I think what you are doing has huge value.”

 

G) “The Most Infamous Troll in the History of Investing Forums”

 

Not everyone applauds my efforts to share with my fellow middle-class investors what the academic research of the past 30 years says about how to invest effectively, however. Here are some comments made by a group that has insisted that the discussions be shut down on grounds that it would be “dangerous” for middle-class investors to learn that Buy-and-Hold can never work:

 

1) “You Want To Be Very, Very Wary of Anything Connected With Rob Bennett”

 

Alex Frakt, owner of the www.Bogleheads.org forum, warned those who visit his site that: “You want to be very, very wary of anything connected with Rob Bennett, the most infamous troll in the history of investing forums on the internet.”

 

2) “Distortions, Unsubstantiated Claims, Misquotes, and Comments Taken Out of Context”

 

Mel Lindauer, co-author of The Bogleheads Guide to Investing, announced at the Vanguard Diehards board that: “I’ve had my fill of those long-winded posts that include distortions, unsubstantiated claims, misquotes and comments taken out of context.”

 

3) “A Dedicated Team of Scholars and Researchers Collects and Analyzes Bennett’s Lies and Misstatements”

 

John Greaney, author of the retirement study offered at the www.RetireEarlyHomePage.com site, stated: “Rob Bennett has posted…on about a half-dozen internet discussion groups devoted to the subject of early retirement over the past five or six years. He’s been banned from most of them for posting in a demonstrably false and misleading manner. Indeed one of the most popular forums hosts a “Best of Hocomania” board where a dedicated team of scholars and researchers collects and analyzes Bennett’s lies and misstatements and sets the record straight.”

 

4)  “He Irritates Me to No End!”

 

A poster at the Financial WebRing Forum offered the observation that: “What I don’t understand is how Rob can correspond in such a sweet and polite way — Yet he irritates me to no end!”

 

5) “The Best Thing for the Get Rich Slowly Forum At This Point Is To Simply Ignore Rob Bennett”

 

J.D. Roth, owner of the Get Rich Slowly forum, had his site moderators send e-mails to all community members who participated in a thread that I started entitled “The Future of Investing.” The e-mails asked the community members not to put forward further posts to that thread. It explained: “The best thing for the Get Rich Slowly Forums at this point is to simply ignore Rob Bennett. Moderators will spread the word through Private Messages, and hopefully he will just quit posting if nobody responds to his posts. Your cooperation in this effort would be much appreciated.”

Yowsa! There are differences of opinion and then there are differences of opinion.  The differences being expressed here are not the sorts of differences you see when two groups of people favor different interpretations of factual realities that they all at least generally accept as the factual realities or when two groups of people adopt different perspectives on a question because they come to it from different sets of life experiences. The two groups here are speaking different languages. They are responding to entirely different perceived realities. The differences we see in these two sets of comments are so big that we must conclude that they are emotional, not intellectual, in nature. Those in the second group show with their choice of words that they feel threatened by arguments that Buy-and-Hold has failed. With them, claims that investors must change their stock allocations in response to big price swings elicit personal animus. The voicing of the claim that Buy-and-Hold has failed provokes in them not civil and reasoned and warm and friendly disagreement but overt and persistent and intense and sub-human hostility.

 

H) “They Feel a Threat to Their Perceived Elite Status”

 

A number of community members have attempted explanations of this perplexing state of affairs:

 

1) “Some on This Board Feel Threatened By the Arrival of Rob and His Ideas”

 

A poster at the Motley Fool board observed: “It seems to me that some on this board feel threatened by the arrival of Rob and his ideas. They feel a threat to their perceived elite status.”

 

2) “If Rob Improves on the Safe Withdrawal Rate Methodology…You Are All, Metaphorically, Out of Business”

 

A poster at the Vanguard Diehards board noted that: “It is obvious that Rob, in attempting to identify new safe withdrawal rate strategies…is going your ox. If Rob improves on the safe withdrawal rate methodology [used in retirement studies], the implication is clear; you are all, metaphorically, out of business.”

 

3) “You’re Sitting on a Winning Lottery Ticket… I’d Do Anything to Have What You’ve Got”

 

Norbert Schlenkler, a financial planner and part owner of the Financial WebRing Forum, told me that: “You’re sitting on a winning lottery ticket… I’d do anything to have what you’ve got.” Yet he approved of the ban on posting re the flaws of the Buy-and-Hold model that was adopted at the site he owns. If he agrees that the ideas are breakthrough ideas, why would he not want his community to learn about them? These are not breakthrough ideas that Norbert Schlenkler developed or that Norbert Schlenkler has long advocated. Norbert Schlenkler has advocated the opposite approach for years. Norbert Schlenkler wants me to enjoy my “winning lottery ticket” but somewhere where his readers will not find out about it.

 

4) “It Doesn’t Even Look Like Rob is Running an Underhanded Smear Campaign Against Mel, Taylor, and the Other So-Called Big Shots, Right?”

 

A Vanguard Diehards poster asserted that: “Reading so many Rob-riddled threads is like being cyberstalked by a cult leader on a perpetual mission to recruit his following…. At this point it doesn’t even look like Rob is running an underhanded smear campaign against Mel, Taylor, and the other so-called big shots, right?” The objection here is that letting middle-class investors learn the realities of stock investing will diminish the influence of those who have long advocated Buy-and-Hold. The references are to Mel Lindauer and Taylor Larimore, co-authors of The Bogleheads Guide to Investing. Lindauer and Larimore regularly promote Buy-and-Hold Investing in their comments at the board.

 

5) “You Go About It In a Way That Is Catastrophically Unproductive By Adding Missionary Zeal That Inflates Your Importance and Demeans Others.”

 

Dallas Morning News Columnist Scott Burns wrote a column at my urging about our safe withdrawal rate findings, saying that “a newer school of thought believes that the safe withdrawal rate depends on how stocks are priced at the time you begin making withdrawals.” But he failed to link to the calculator at my site that gives the accurate numbers! And he continued citing the discredited studies in subsequent columns! When I pressed him on these strange doings, he complained that: “You go about it in a way that is catastrophically unproductive by adding missionary zeal that inflates your importance and demeans others. The whole idea that there is a New School of safe withdrawal rates [the “New School” terminology was taken from Burns’ column!] reeks of personal aggrandizement.” I think it would be fair to say that Burns’ take is that it is fine to provide accurate numbers so long as no suggestion is made that the studies containing inaccurate numbers (studies that Burns has been citing at his column for years) need to be corrected. To point out that the old studies get the numbers wrong and that studies that get the numbers right are superior is an act of “self-aggrandizement,” in Burns’ assessment.

Nicolo Machiavelli, author of The Prince, has never posted at our boards or blogs. But he understood well the aspects of human nature that are responsible for today’s economic crisis. He observed that: “It must be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to plan, more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to manage than a new system. For the initiator has the enmity of all who would profit by the preservation of the old institution and merely lukewarm defenders in those who gain by the new ones.” The Shiller Revolution threatens those who made their fame or fortune advancing the Bogle Revolution.

 

I) What If Everything You Thought You Knew About Stock Investing Turned Out to Be Wrong?

 

The error responsible for the Buy-and-Hold concept (that the market always prices stocks properly) was not a small error. The mistake is so fundamental that acknowledging it throws into doubt every strategic recommendation made under the Buy-and-Hold Model. If Shiller is right and Bogle is wrong, most of the retirement planning advice we have been hearing for 30 years is misguided. If valuations affect long-term returns, most of the asset allocation advice we have been hearing for three decades is dangerous. If a belief in the Efficient Market Theory set the first effort at making stock investing knowledge scientific on the wrong track, most of what we have come to believe about risk tolerance and risk premiums and risk management is gibberish. What if everything you thought you knew about stock investing turned out to be wrong?

Discovering that we have gotten the ABCs of stock investing all wrong is not a bad thing. It is a wonderful thing. If you think about it, all advances in human knowledge begin with an acceptance that we don’t know it all yet; when we start thinking that we do, we close our minds to new ideas. Our finding in May 2002 that Buy-and-Hold is the investing model of the past and that Rational Investing (the premise of the Rational Investing Model is that investors must consider price when buying stocks) is the investing model of the future has led those of us in the Retire Early and Indexing discussion-board communities seeking to advance our understanding of how investing works to develop many exciting tentative insights in the first eight years of our discussions. We have learned that:

 

1) Timing Works

 

Timing works. It always works. Timing is in fact required for those seeking to have a realistic hope of long-term success. The confusion on this point stems from a failure on the part of those who developed the Buy-and-Hold Model to distinguish short-term timing and long-term timing. The historical stock-return data does indeed indicate that short-term timing (changing your stock allocation with the expectation of seeing a benefit for doing so within a year or so) never works. What the Buy-and-Hold advocates missed is that the same historical data that shows that short-term timing never works also shows that long-term timing (changing your stock allocation in response to big price changes with the understanding that you may not see a benefit for doing so for five or even ten years) always works. That’s exciting stuff because timing the market effectively permits investors to obtain far higher returns at greatly reduced risk. Investor heaven!

 

2) The Safe Withdrawal Rate Is Not a Constant Number

 

The safe withdrawal rate (the percentage that retirees may remove from their portfolios each year with virtual certainty that their plans will survive 30 years) is not a constant number but a number that varies with changes in valuations. The Buy-and-Hold retirement studies report that this number is always 4 percent. The new research shows that, at times of low valuations, it can rise to as high as 9 percent and, at times of high valuations, it can drop to as low as 2 percent. The implications are far-reaching. The bad news is that the millions of today’s retirees who relied on the old studies to plan their retirements are likely going to experience horrible life setbacks in days to come. The good news is that our ability to identify the tradeoffs that come into play in building successful retirement plans is now greatly enhanced from what it is was just a few years ago.

 

3) Stocks Are Safe for Retirees

 

There is no need for investors close to retirement or in retirement to pass up the benefits of stocks so long as valuations are not out of hand. Buy-and-Holders typically tell those near retirement to move to safer asset classes. But stocks are not risky so long as they are selling at reasonable prices, according to the post-Buy-and-Hold research. What we should be telling retirees to avoid is Buy-and-Hold Investing, the approach that posits that there is no need to look at valuations when setting one’s stock allocations. All investors (not only retirees) need to lower their stock allocations when prices get out of hand.

 

4) Valuation-Informed Investors Can Retire Five Years Sooner

 

Investors willing to take valuations into consideration can expect to be able to retire roughly five years sooner as a result of doing so. Valuation-Informed Indexing beats rebalancing in nine out of ten of the return sequences that conform to the patterns we have seen throughout the historical record. Valuation-Informed Indexers often do not go ahead quickly, but they almost always end up ahead in the long run. Once they go ahead, the magic of compounding returns kicks in to make the edge they enjoy over Buy-and-Holders grow larger and larger over the years.

 

5) Young Investors Need to Avoid Stocks When Prices Are Insanely High

 

It is not necessarily a good idea for young investors to invest heavily in stocks. Buy-and-Holders argue that young investors can afford the risk of stocks because they have time to recover from price crashes. No! Investors who endure price crashes lose the benefit of compounding returns on the amounts lost and this loss is greater for young investors than it is for any others (because young investors have more time ahead of them in which the compounding returns phenomenon can work its magic). Young investors should be avoiding stocks at times when they are priced to crash.

It is to every investor’s benefit to learn the realities of stock investing. It is to the economy’s benefit as well. When millions of investors follow discredited and dangerous strategies, trillions of dollars of capital are misallocated; money is taken from economic sectors where it would do the most good and placed in economic sectors where it does less good (for example, the sellers of luxury goods were put at a competitive advantage over companies that sold reasonably priced goods during the years in which millions of middle-class investors were persuaded to take the big numbers on the bottom line of the last page of their portfolio statements as accurate indicators of their accumulated wealth). Permitting investors to learn the new realities is a rare win/win/win for our free market economy and even for our political system (which has been placed under stress as we have begun paying the price for permitting the bull market of the late 1990s) with no possible downside.

 

J) Bogle Has Been Unresponsive

 

Unfortunately, it does not follow that the many institutions that have advocated Buy-and-Hold for many years now perceive it as a good thing for middle-class investors to learn what they very much need to learn. Buy-and-Hold was developed by smart people who are not accustomed to acknowledging that they have miscalculated important numbers. Many are of the “INTJ” personality type under the Myers-Briggs personality assessment system — this is the “Mastermind” personality type, a type that possesses impressive analytical powers combined with an incapacity to admit mistakes or to appreciate the human misery caused by its mistakes. I have found a strong interest among middle-class investors in learning the realities at just about every board and blog at which I have posted. I have also been met with brutally abusive posting (including threats of physical violence) by individuals who feel that they have a vested interest in blocking investors from learning the realities. Those who want to learn appear to greatly outnumber those who want to block the learning experience. But those who want to block the learning experience are 50 times more intense and determined. Those who want to block the learning experience have long since given up trying to offer an intellectual defense of Buy-and-Hold. Yet they have “won” battle after battle through the use of trash posting tactics.

Most site owners have been unwilling to honor their promises to protect those of us using their boards and blogs for the purposes for which they were created from those with destructive intent posting in “defense” of Buy-and-Hold.

 

1) Motley Fool Says That Permitting Honest Posting Would Be “Ideal”

 

I built the Motley Fool board on early retirement into the most successful board in the site’s history. It was burned to the ground in the space of about a year by John Greaney, the author of one of the discredited retirement studies and by posters putting up abusive posts in “support” of Greaney. When I asked the site administrator for help, I was told that it was Motley Fool’s view that “it would be ideal” if Greaney would permit honest posting on retirement planning at its retirement planning board.

 

2) Morningstar.com Bans Popular Posters If Mel Lindauer Demands It

 

The Vanguard Diehards board at www.Morningstar.com was a few years ago the most popular investing board on the internet. Surveys were taken on several occasions to identify the most popular posters and several posters who posted regularly on what the academic research has taught us in recent years about the effect of valuations on long-term returns ranked near the top in the community’s estimation. These posters have since been banned from further participation both at the Vanguard Diehards board and at the forum at www. Bogleheads.org, which was formed when the “leaders” of the Vanguard Diehards board became enraged that the www.Morningstar.com site administrators would not obey their demands that I be banned (Morningstar did ban me after the Vanguard Diehards board was destroyed). Numerous efforts by many different parties to have the Vanguard Diehards board and the www.Boglelead.org forum opened to honest posting on valuations and on the flaws in the Buy-and-Hold Model have been unsuccessful.

 

3) Bogle Acknowledges That Valuation-Informed Indexing Can Work

 

Vanguard Founder John Bogle said in an interview in the Summer of 2009 that he believes that Valuation-Informed Indexing can work. I saw this as a potential breakthrough. It obviously is absurd that there is a ban on posting on Valuation-Informed Indexing on grounds that it is “dangerous” at boards named after Bogle and his company given that Bogle himself acknowledges that the strategy makes sense. But Bogle was unresponsive to my e-mailed plea for help in my effort to open the indexing communities meeting at www.Morningstar.com and at www.Bogleheads.com to honest posting on the new strategy and on the flaws in the Buy-and-Hold Model.

 

4) Personal Finance Bloggers Live in Fear of the Lindauer and Greaney Goons

 

Greaney has formed a discussion board at which Buy-and-Hold “defenders” meet each day to develop strategies for attacking boards and blogs at which community members post honestly about the errors in the Old School retirement studies or about the flaws in the Buy-and-Hold Model. I have had several blog owners reject Guest Blog Entries or shut down discussions in which community members demonstrated interest on grounds that they are afraid of what will be done to their sites if they “cross” the Lindauer and Greaney Goons. I posted a thread at the Money Blog Network, a forum for blog owners, asking for help with the problem. The thread was deleted by one of the owners.

 

5) Money Magazine Endorsed the www.Bogleheads.org Forum Without Letting Its Readers Know of the Ban on Honest Posting on the Flaws of Buy-and-Hold That Applies There

 

Numerous personal finance blogs have banned honest posting on these questions. This group includes: (1) the Monevator blog; (2) the Oblivious Investor blog; (3) the Free Money Finance blog; (4) the Behavior Gap blog; and (5) the Four Pillars blog. As noted above, J.D. Roth, the owner of the Get Rich Slowly blog (possibly the most popular personal finance blog on the internet today) has gotten personally involved in efforts to discourage posting about the Big Fail of Buy-and-Hold at his blog and forum. Many other blog owners have expressed a great reluctance to tolerate posting on the issues discussed in this Knol. Not one blog has reported on the abusive posting problem and about what it says about Buy-and-Hold that big names associated with Buy-and-Hold (including John Bogle himself!) have permitted such tactics to continue for years at boards at which they participate. An e-mail that I wrote to an editor at Money magazine describing the history of the www.Bogleheads.org forum when the magazine endorsed it as “the best on the internet” was ignored.

 

K) We Are All Ashamed of Our Complicity in Permitting the Bull Market to Get Out of Control

 

We know on some level of consciousness that Buy-and-Hold caused the bull market and that the bull market caused the economic crisis. But we don’t talk about it. It pains us to do so. We are ashamed of the role that we played in causing the problem.

The Stock-Selling Industry (which profited to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars during the Buy-and-Hold Era) played the dominant role in blocking the spread of information about the new investing realities. But where were the newspapers while this conspiracy of silence was being perpetrated? Where were the economists? Where were the politicians? Where were the ordinary investors, who despite their lack of familiarity with the academic research certainly should have had doubts about Buy-and-Hold from a commonsense standpoint and who should have come forward with some hard questions when it was being promoted so heavily?

We were compromised. We were all on it. We didn’t object to being kept in the dark because we liked the idea of being kept in the dark. Buy-and-Hold has remained popular for a long time for the same reason Bernie Madoff’s fund remained popular for a long time — it appeals to the Get Rich Quick impulse within all of us.

Madoff engaged in deliberate fraud. Bogle made a mistake also made by lots of other smart and good people. That’s obviously a distinction of great significance. Still, does Bogle (and all the others who continue to this day to promote Buy-and-Hold without even making their clients or readers or listeners aware that there is another side to the story) not owe some responsibility to those who turn to him for realistic, accurate, prudent, research-supported investment advice? The disquieting truth is that Bogle’s unwillingness to acknowledge his error (or even to acknowledge that he is capable of error — even that much would be enough to open the boards with his name or his company’s name on them to honest posting) has done greater financial harm than Madoff’s deliberate fraud. More people trust Bogle, largely because he is perceived as promoting an investing strategy in accord with the academic research. The painful reality is that Bogle’s stubborn and prideful unwillingness to admit a mistake has caused financial losses that make the losses suffered by Madoff investors appear as a drop of water in the Atlantic ocean in comparison.

I know from long experience that there will be many people reading these words who will react with shock and disapproval to my statements about Bogle, a much beloved figure. There was a day when I would have reacted that way myself. That was eight years ago, or perhaps even four years ago or to a lesser extent even two years ago. Not today. Today I have eight years of experience under my belt of seeing what harm can be done to a wonderful man’s reputation when his “friends” become so awed by him that they hold back from taking him aside and explaining to him the facts of life in response to a decision on his part to engage in behavior that I think can fairly be described as reckless in the extreme.

I love John Bogle. Valuation-Informed Indexing obviously would not exist but for the work Bogle did developing and promoting the first approach to investing simple enough for use by the typical middle-class investor. The work that I have done in this field began with a reading of Bogle’s book Common Sense on Mutual Funds. It was from Bogle that Rob Bennett learned about Reversion to the Mean. Thanks, man!

When you love someone, you respect that someone. Those who cannot bring themselves to ask Bogle to knock off the funny business show a disrespect for the man and for the important work he has done by doing so. Implicit in the failure to act is a suggestion that perhaps Bogle is so caught up in the fame and the money that he is beyond caring about the human misery that Buy-and-Hold has brought to millions. The reason why I press the point that Bogle (and all other Buy-and-Hold advocates, to be sure — I focus on Bogle only because his name is the one most think of as most closely associated with the Buy-and-Hold concept) needs to come clean about his responsibility for the pain caused by The Greatest Mistake Ever Made in the History of Personal Finance is that I don’t believe for two seconds that that’s the case. Bogle did not start out with an intent to destroy the U.S. economic and political systems. He started out with a desire to help middle-class investors tap into the wealth that comes with learning how to invest in stocks effectively. Bogle is a wonderful man who has made wonderful contributions and it is those contributions that I and all his true friends want him to be known for for many, many years to come.

That’s true for all the others, of course. It’s true for Scott Burns and William Bernstein and Jonathan Clements and Larry Swedroe and Mel Lindauer and John Greaney and the people at Morningstar.com and the people at Fool.com and the people at www.IndexUniverse.com and J.D. Roth and Mike Piper (the owner of the Oblivious Investor blog) and the owner of the Monevator blog and all the others. We’re all humans. We’re all doing the best that we can. We all want to know how to invest effectively. We all make mistakes from time to time. We all made one doozy of a mistake when we bought into the Buy-and-Hold “idea.” We all need to find our way back to where we once belonged.

We cannot acknowledge the true cause of the economic crisis because the shame we feel when we consider doing so is so intense that we cannot bear to open the door. We think of the human suffering that we caused ourselves and others and we think of the insights that we might have developed had we not chosen the path of pigheadedness  and we freeze up. The blindness of cognitive dissonance kicks in. We ban discussion of the realities that we need to learn to get out of the giant mess we have created for ourselves.

It’s all a terrible mistake. As with Watergate, it’s not the initial mistake that is the real problem but the long and involved coverup. We need to take it the other way. Once we admit the mistake, it can no longer have power over us. Saying the horrible truth out loud frees us to follow the better path, the path that we can use to recover the losses we suffered on the bad path and then some. Humans are goof-ups. We also are heroes. We are transformed from one into the other when the pain caused by the goofiness becomes so intense that we feel no choice but to let it go and move to the better path.

We need to hurt. We need to hurt enough to want to change. That’s why God (or Evolution, if you prefer!) created economic crises in the first place. We need to feel this pain so that we can move forward together, rebuilding rather than covering up. We will never be comfortable with ourselves again for so long as we remain in cover-up mode. It is a degrading mode for the humans. It is beneath us.

The road out is through a combination of honestly and charity. I am the world’s expert on the emotional aspects of this economic crisis (I didn’t apply for the position! I was volunteered!), so you can take my word for it re this one. A combination of honesty and charity is what will get the job done. I’m sure of it!

We need to open the internet to honest posting on the flaws of the Buy-and-Hold Model. It is by talking these things over that we begin the healing process. The price we end up paying for our goofiness can get bigger. In the event that stocks perform in the next few years somewhat along the lines of how they have performed in the wake of all of our earlier experiences with emotional investing, we will be seeing another price drop of 60 percent in coming years (these words were written in March 2010). A price drop of that size on top of those we have already experienced could bring on the Second Great Depression. The further loss in confidence in our political leaders could cause the collapse of our government and the end of a way of life that has brought us all great personal fulfillment for many years now.

Or we could take it the other way. We could say The Three Magic Words (“I” and “Was” and “Wrong”) and thereby open the door to learning what we need to know to usher in The Golden Age of Middle-Class Investing. Have you ever been in an argument with a loved one in which things appeared to be careening out of control until it hit you that you love that goof-up on the other side of the table and you said that out loud even though you knew it was entirely against the rules and it all got a lot better real fast? That’s where we stand today. We have almost killed ourselves by coming to believe that we had it all figured out when that wasn’t the truth. And we are this close to saving ourselves by putting what we really did get right to work for constructive and positive and life-affirming purposes by taking the simple (but difficult!) act of working up the courage to give voice to the three hardest words to pronounce in the entire English language.

 

L) Political Bloggers Can Turn This Around

 

The internet is the place where this national learning experience should be taking place. We should be working every day to inform our fellow middle-class investors of the realities of stock investing and thereby working to rebuild our economic and political systems. But for that important work to begin, we must first demand recognition of our right to hold the conversations that we need to engage in at all of the boards and blogs that were set up just for that purpose but that have been denied us for eight years now by those trying to maintain public confidence in Buy-and-Hold for just a little while longer.

I ask the help of political bloggers from both the right and the left sides of the political spectrum to publicize this matter and thereby to loosen the grip of the Buy-and-Hold dogmatics on the personal finance boards and blogs. If you are one of the bloggers whom I have contacted by e-mail, I ask that you do what you can to get answers to the many troubling questions raised in the words above. If you are not a blogger but might be able to get involved in another way, I invite you to contact me with any questions that you have regarding help that you might be able to offer.

This economic crisis is not something that was done to us. It is something that we caused by giving in to that dark voice within us all that says that this time it is going to be different, that this will be the first time in history when investing in stocks without regard to price will work out. We all know in a foggy way what caused the economic crisis. We focus on other causes because we don’t want to acknowledge what we all in our hearts know in at least some vague sense to be the reality.

It’s a big black mountain standing in the way of our realization of our financial dreams. It’s when we collectively say The Three Magic Words that we find the way to the other side of the mountain and the real fireworks (the good kind!) begin!

There’s life after Buy-and-Hold!
 
 

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Simplicity and What Causes What

 

People like simplicity and to avoid specifics. “Buy-and-hold” is a very simple message. It does not ask you to think. “Market timing” requires you to be specific. To let “long-term market timing” gain grounds on “buy-and-hold” view, it probably would need a simplification of the message.

Like this article describes, it is also too simple to blame a single group (e.g. bankers) for the economic crisis we are in. But I think it goes too far to say that bull markets cause crises, and that buy-and-hold causes the bull market and therefore the crisis.

– Booms and busts in asset prices are as old as capitalism. Irrational high asset prices go hand-in-hand with other economic aspects of a boom period. They reinforce each other, but it goes too far I think to say that one causes the other. And furthermore, there have been many crises before the 20th century and before buy-and-hold was a term that was known or promoted.

– But yes, a deflation of a stock or other asset bubble, evaporates a lot of paper wealth, reduces the (imagined) spending power and demand and reinforces the crisis economics down like it did on the way up.

Thanks for describing your views that go against the mainstream. Diverse views create better understanding.

Trend Investing – Mar 27, 2011

 
 

I’m grateful for your intelligent comment and criticism, Stock Trend Investing.

I agree with you re the facts. Booms and busts are indeed as old as capitalism.

I don’t agree that it follows that they are a necessary feature of capitalism. There was a time when walking around in the darkness was a necessary feature of nighttime. Then we learned how to harness the power of electricity. I believe that we can make a similar advance by learning what causes booms and busts and what is needed to prevent them.

We don’t need to pass any laws. All we need to do is to appeal to people’s self-interest. Every investor alive wants to be an effective investor. What if we provided tools to people letting them know by how many years they are delaying their retirements by failing to take prices into account when setting their stock allocations? I would think that would get things going. Investors’ desire to obtain higher returns at lower risk would do the rest.

I of course acknowledge that there are not millions of people saying this today. The first thing we have to do is to get a discussion of the possibility started. I personally see that as a far more appealing way to go than wasting time getting caught up in all sorts of political frictions. Anyway, that’s where I’m coming from re this thing.

I agree with you that this message needs to be simple to succeed. My view is that the simple way to say it is that looking at the price of a thing you buy is always a good thing, even when the thing you are buying is stocks. To me, that is very simple. I think the complication stems from the fact that The Stock-Selling Industry has spent millions in marketing expenses promoting Buy-and-Hold. Common sense tells people that price matters. But they have heard that opposing message so many times that they have come to doubt what their common sense tells them.

In any event, I am certainly grateful to you for taking the time to read and comment helpfully on this long article. And I do very much agree with you that no single group (bankers or any other) can be blamed for the economic crisis. I blame Buy-and-Hold. But I acknowledge that we are all responsible for the popularity of Buy-and-Hold. It never would have caught on unless it appealed to something basic in human nature. I think that the something basic that it appeals to is our Get RIch Quick impulse. I think that the single biggest project in the investing advice field should be the effort to rein in the destructive power of this basic and universal human inclination to find appeal in Get RIch Quick thinking.

Rob

Rob Bennett – Mar 27, 2011

 

 

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Why Buy and Hold Investing Can Never Work

March 26, 2012 by Rob

Stock valuations matter. Stocks obviously offer a stronger value proposition at fair or low prices than they do at insanely high prices. But the Buy-and-Hold concept calls for investors to ignore valuations when setting their stock allocations. The purpose of a market is to set prices properly. If a large number of investors becomes determined to ignore value propositions, the market is not able to perform this function except by bringing on price crashes and the economic crises that follow from them.

 

A) The Dominant Model for Understanding How Stock Investing Works

 

The Buy-and-Hold Model for understanding stock investing is the dominant model of today. The lead advocate is John Bogle, founder of the Vanguard group of mutual funds. Other big-name advocates include: (1) William Bernstein, author of The Four Pillars of Investing; Larry Swedroe, author of The Only Guide to Winning Investing Strategy You’ll Ever Need, and Dallas Morning News Columnist Scott Burns. Money magazine has promoted Buy-and-Hold strategies aggressively since its founding in the mid-1970s. Even the U.S. Securities Commission has published materials suggesting a belief that Buy-and-Hold is a responsible investing strategy.

The history of the strategy can be traced back to the mid-1500s, when the idea of an “efficient” market first surfaced. University of Chicago Finance Professor Eugene Fama and others did extensive research supporting the model in the 1960s. Burton Malkiel then popularized the idea in his bestselling investing guide A Random Walk Down Wall Street, published in 1973. The runaway U.S. bull market of the 1980s and 1990s confirmed the merit of Buy-and-Hold in the minds of millions of middle-class investors.

There have always been doubters. Yale Professor Robert Shiller published research showing that valuations affect long-term returns (a finding in direct conflict with the idea that the market is “efficient” and thus sets prices properly) in 1981. Shiller’s book Irrational Exuberance (the subtitle is “The National Bestseller That Revolutionized the Way We Think About the Stock Market”) was published when tech stocks were crashing in early 2000 and received numerous positive reviews in highly regarded publications despite its rejection of the conventional investing wisdom of the time. Other thought leaders who have long expressed grave doubts regarding the merit of the Buy-and-Hold model include: (1) Cliff Asness; (2) Rob Arnott; (3) Ed Easterling; (4) Jeremy Grantham; (5) Andrew Smithers; (6) Peter Bernstein; and (7) John Walter Russell.

 

B) The Economic Crisis Raises Doubts

 

It was the stock crash and economic panic of late 2008, however, that ignited the fire that has led to more widespread and more sustained criticism of the long-dominant model for understanding how stock investing works. Justin Fox published The Myth of the Rational Market in June 2009. Rob Arnott declared in that year that the conventional investing wisdom of today is largely the product of “myth and urban legend.” Famed Value Investor Warren Buffett dismissed much of the thinking on which 90 percent of today’s “experts” base their strategic recommendations as “nutty.” And Peter Bernstein observed that, given the mountain of evidence that has accumulated over time that Buy-and-Hold simply does not stand up to scrutiny: “Everything has collapsed.”

In one sense, that is indeed so. There is no logical case that can be made in defense of the Buy-and-Hold concept today. Even its most adamant adherents have given up defending the model, as is evidenced by the Ban on Honest Posting that has been imposed at numerous investment discussion boards and blogs. There is another sense, however, in which Buy-and-Hold remains dominant. Investing experts have been highly reluctant to acknowledge the mistakes they have made in recent decades in clear and frank and plain and understandable terms. The result is that most middle-class investors continue to believe that Buy-and–Hold makes sense or even that it is the most prudent strategy available to them. Indeed, Fox argues that, while the Efficient Market Theory (the intellectual framework supporting Buy-and-Hold) has been discredited, the idea of sticking to the same stock allocation at all times remains a realistic strategy.

 

C) How Buy-and-Hold Became Popular

 

The key to making sense of this confused state of affairs is understanding where the Buy-and-Hold idea came from and why it once seemed to hold so much promise.

Throughout most of the history of investing knowledge, strategic analysis has been subjective and focused on short-term results. Those who favored stocks have been referred to as “bulls” and those who dissented have been referred to as “bears.” Both bulls and bears have of course always offered rationales for their beliefs. But until the 1970s it could not be said that the general public’s understanding of how to invest was scientific. That changed with the development of the Buy-and-Hold model. This model was rooted in academic research. Thus, its insights were not the product of subjective impressions — they were the product of objective testings of the historical stock-return data. Moreover, the then-new Buy-and-Hold model achieved a breakthrough in its focus on what works in stock investing not for a year or two or three but in the long term. Buy-and-Hold was in a number of important respects something new.

This was one key to the popularity it achieved in recent decades. The U.S. middle-class was at this time acquiring sufficient wealth to permit it to invest in stocks and employers were shifting the responsibility for the funding of their retirements to the workers, giving middle-class workers little choice but to learn something about equities. Most middle-class workers have long had a fear of investing in stocks because of the big losses associated with this asset class at times of stock crashes. The promise of a scientific, long-term approach held great appeal. Few middle-class workers studied Buy-and-Hold to the extent needed to understand where the ideas came from or why they were supposed to work. But most quickly grasped the essential point being promoted — this was responsible investing. Buy-and-Hold became popular because it was viewed as being a rejection of the Get Rich Quick thinking that had given much investment commentary a bad name.

A second reason why Buy-and-Hold won the confidence of millions is that its fundamental tenet is that markets work. Buy-and-Hold is Adam Smith Economics applied to the world of investing. Most middle-class workers feel no need to beat the market. Their aim is merely to earn their share of the rewards generated by the market. The slogans popularized by the Buy-and-Hold advocates — “It’s Not Timing the Market But Time In the Market That Matters,” “There’s No Such Thing As a Free Lunch,” “Stay the Course,” “Stock for the Long Run” — speak to an proudly practical and properly skeptical and generally optimistic people. The Buy-and-Hold marketing slogans hit emotional hot buttons (and for entirely good and encouraging reasons).

Finally, Buy-and-Hold became popular because of the low stock valuations that applied in the days when the middle-class was first learning about it via A Random Walk Down Wall Street and the marketing efforts of Bogle’s Vanguard Group. Stocks were selling at rock-bottom prices in the late 1970s and early 1980s. When stocks are selling at low prices, the most likely 10-year annualized return is 15 percent real. Buy-and-Hold did not cause the amazing returns experienced by stock investors from 1975 through 1995. But our knowledge of the effect of valuations on long-term returns was far less developed in those days and so Buy-and-Hold was often given credit for those returns. Stocks would have done well regardless of whether Buy-and-Hold had been developed or not, but, since Buy-and-Hold was the new thing and appeared to be an entirely plausible and prudent model for understanding how stock investing works, Buy-and-Hold got the credit in the minds of millions of middle-class investors.

 

D) The Greatest Mistake in the History of Personal Finance

 

It’s easy today to explain why Buy-and-Hold can never work. The root idea is preposterous (but not obviously so to those who have not yet seen through it — there are many smart and good people who possess a strong confidence in the concept). For Buy-and-Hold to work, valuations would have to have zero effect on long-term returns. Stocks would have to be the only asset class on the face of Planet Earth of which it could be said that the price paid for the asset has no effect on the value proposition provided. This cannot be. Price must matter. And if price matters, investors should not be going with the same stock allocation at times when valuations are insanely high as they do when stocks are fairly priced or low priced. Buy-and-Hold defies common sense.

Why, then, did so many experts come to believe?

The academics responsible for the Buy-and-Hold concept discovered something of critical importance in their studies of the historical data. They learned that short-term timing does not work. That is, those who predict where stock prices will be in a year or two are no more successful than what would be expected if their predictions were random rather than informed by intelligent study of the market. This was breakthrough stuff. This changed the history of stock investing. No longer was stock investing about bulls and bears making guesses as to when to buy or sell stocks. The science of investing showed that short-term forecasting does not work and that a long-term focus is needed. The science appeared at the time to suggest that a Buy-and-Hold strategy (sticking to the same stock allocation at all times) makes sense.

The science did not prove that Buy-and-Hold works. The Greatest Mistake in the History of Personal Finance took place when the academics jumped to the hasty conclusion that the fact that short-term timing does not work necessarily leads to a conclusion that Buy-and-Hold is the only rational strategy.

There is not one possible explanation for why short-term timing does not work. There are two. The explanation adopted by Fama and the other academics was that short-term timing does not work because the market always set prices properly and it is therefore impossible for even the smartest individual investor to do a better job than the market at determining the proper price for stocks. There is an alternate explanation that offers every bit as satisfactory an explanation. It could be that the market does such a poor job of setting prices that there is no way for even the smartest investor to make sense of what the market is going to do. It could be that the reason why short-term timing does not work is not that the market is efficient but because it is wildly inefficient. It could be that stock prices do not reflect a rational collective assessment of the true value of stocks but an almost entirely emotional assessment that signifies just about nothing meaningful about the proper price of the stock market. Irrational markets cannot be timed because irrationality cannot be predicted.

There is a way to test which of the two explanations is the right one. If the market is efficient, the concept of overvaluation is silliness. An efficient market is a market that sets prices properly. But Shiller’s 1981 research (confirmed by a mountain of research done since then) shows that overvaluation is a meaningful concept. Shiller showed that stocks offer better long-term returns starting from times of fair or low prices than they do starting from times of insanely high prices. Even many Buy-and-Hold advocates acknowledge today that valuations matter. William Bernstein says that valuations affect long-term returns as a matter of “mathematical certitude.”

The further reality is that the market must in an ultimate sense be efficient. The purpose of a market is to set prices properly. If investor emotions were the sole influence on market prices, stock prices would go to the moon and stay there; what could ever persuade investors not to vote themselves raises by pushing stock prices higher and higher and higher yet? The market must ultimately be efficient, as the academics responsible for the Buy-and-Hold concept claimed. Yet the academic research of the past three decades shows conclusively that the market is not immediately efficient. What, then, is the full reality?

The full reality appears to be that the market is gradually efficient, not immediately efficient. It is investor emotions that determine market prices in the short term. But it is economic realities that determine stock prices in the long term (after the completion of 10 years of market gyrations or so). If the stock price rises too much higher than the price justified by the economic realities, opportunities open up for competing businesses to obtain the same assets on the cheap (relative to the market price assigned to them) and thereby to create a new business with the same profit potential as the overvalued one and thereby to pull the value assigned to it by the stock market down to reasonable levels. The market does indeed insure that stocks are priced properly. But it does not do this in an instant. The process can drag out for 10 years or even a bit longer.

 

E) Long-Term Market Timing Is Required

 

The strategic implications are earth-shaking. It turns out that we have been telling millions of middle-class investors precisely the opposite of what really works in stock investing. Since the market sets the price improperly in the short term and properly in the long term, successful long-term investing requires market timing (not the discredited approach of short-term timing, but long-term timing, which the historical data shows has always worked). The key to long-term success is to disdain the idea of sticking with the same stock allocation but instead always to be certain to adjust one’s stock allocation as required by changes in the valuations assigned to the broad market indexes (only one allocation change every 10 years is required on average but it is essential that long-term investors make this change — Buy-and-Hold never works in the long run because it argues that this change is not necessary or even that it is a good idea not to make the allocation change).

Consider the investor debating whether to buy the S&P Index or Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS)  in January 2000. TIPS were paying a 10-year return of 4 percent real. The most likely annualized 10-year return on the S&P Index (according to a regression analysis of the historical data showing the effect of valuations on long-term returns) was a negative 1 percent real. That’s a difference of 5 percentage points of return for 10 years running. The investor with a portfolio of $100,000 was likely to lose 50 percent of that amount ($50,000) over the course of the next 10 years by following the advice of the Buy-and-Hold advocates to invest in stocks rather than TIPS “for the long run.” An investor with a portfolio of $500,000 was likely to pay a price of $250,000 for following the “expert” guidance. An investor with a portfolio of $1,000,000 was likely to be $500,000 less wealthy at the end of a decade as a result of his decision to place his confidence in the “scientific” approach to stock investing.

Tens of thousands of investing experts recommended Buy-and-Hold investing during the years of insane stock prices (January 1996 through September 2008). Millions of middle-class investors lost sums of $50,000 or $250,000 or $500,000 as a result. The combined effect is that we are in the process of seeing millions of failed retirements, millions of failed businesses and millions of failed marriages play out before our eyes. Buy-and-Hold has caused the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression and we are still in the early years of our attempt to overcome this tsunami of financial mismanagement. Our political system is feeling the strain. Our misguided and arrogant advocacy of Buy-and-Hold has left millions of middle-class workers in a frightened and confused state and anger at the economic and political leaders on whose watch this epic disaster took place is steadily growing.

 

F) Rational Investing Is the Answer

 

We’ve got a huge mess on our hands. Fortunately, an inviting solution to the problem readily presents itself. Buy-and-Hold is rooted in a huge mistake. We have been urging people to invest their money pursuant to that mistake for many years now. What if we stopped?

If we stopped, we would be removing a ball and chain from the leg of the U.S. economy. We would be setting the U.S. economy free to achieve things it has never achieved before. We would no longer be misallocating resources to the tune of trillions of dollars. We would be freeing the market to allocate resources where they can do the most good, freeing middle-class workers to achieve financial freedom years sooner than was possible during the Buy-and-Hold Era, possibly freeing our economy of the threat of economic crisis for many decades to come (each of the four economic crises we have seen since 1900 was preceded by a time in which the Buy-and-Hold Idea [that stock prices do not matter] became insanely popular, popular enough to send stock prices to double their fair value [prices went to three times fair value in the late 1990s]). The Golden Age of Middle-Class Investing is awaiting us, if we are able to win the help of the few brave and civic-minded people of influence needed to usher it in.

 

G) A Wall of Resistance

 

There is one step required before the transition from the Buy-and-Hold Era to the Rational Investing Era (The Rational Investing Model is the alternative to the Buy-and-Hold Investing Model — it is described in some depth in articles and podcasts available at the www.PassionSaving.com site) can begin in earnest. We need to persuade the many experts who advocated Buy-and-Hold to acknowledge the mistake and to thereby launch a national debate on what really works in stock investing. As of today, an institutional interest in preserving the status quo and avoiding the need to acknowledge mistakes has worsened the economic crisis and threatened to bring on a Second Great Depression.

I put a post to a Motley Fool discussion board on May 13, 2002, noting that valuations affect long-term returns and that the studies that financial planners use to help us plan our retirements (which in deference to the Buy-and-Hold Model include no valuation adjustments) therefore get the numbers wildly wrong. Several big names in the field have confirmed my findings. For example, William Bernstein said that any aspiring retiree giving thought to making use of the conventional retirement studies to plan a retirement would be well-advised to “FuhGedaBouDit!” Swedroe said in a post to the Bogleheads.org board community that the conventional retirement studies (the Old School Safe-Withdrawal-Rate Studies) constitute “Garbage-In/Garbage-Out” research. I have led an effort on the internet for nearly eight years now to get these studies corrected and to bring to the attention of middle-class investors the flaws in the Buy-and-Hold Model responsible for the demonstrably false retirement claims which are likely to cause millions of failed retirements in days to come.

These efforts have been unsuccessful because of a wall of resistance put up by The Stock-Selling Industry to the idea of sharing with middle-class investors why Buy-and-Hold has failed and what the academic research of today says is most likely to work for the long-term investor. Two comments by Burns sum up the resistance that has been offered by many. In a June 2005 column, Burns explained why the media has failed to inform investors of what they need to know to protect themselves from the dangers of following a Buy-and-Hold strategy: “It’s information that most people don’t want to hear,” Burns explained. Investing experts see it as their job not to tell us what we need to hear about stocks but what we want to hear about stocks at times when we are insanely overinvested in them because of their earlier bad advice. In e-mail correspondence with me, Burns offered the view that my efforts to help middle-class investors learn the realities would prove to be “catastrophically unproductive,” presumably because they were at odds with the interests of The Stock-Selling Industry to keep the research findings of the past 30 years bottled up.

Bans on honest posting on the matters discussed in this Knol have been adopted at the discussion boards hosted at www.Morningtar.com, at www.IndexUniverse.com, at www.Bogleheads.com, at www.Fool.com and at a number of personal finance blogs (the Oblivious Investor blog, the Behavior Gap blog, and others). Numerous other blog owners (the owners of the Get Rich Slowly blog and the Frugal Dad blog, among others) have elected not to report on these matters after learning about them (while not banning honest posting in the comments sections of their blogs).

We are at an impasse. We know that Buy-and-Hold does not work. Even its most ardent advocates are so lacking in confidence in this model today that they insist on bans on discussion of its flaws at discussion boards or blogs at which they participate. But The Stock-Selling Industry feels strongly that it is not in its best interest to let the cat out of the bag. And most middle-class investors so lack confidence in their own ability to understand the realities of stock investing that they have placed their confidence in the very experts working hard to deny them access to what they need to know! One poster on the Vanguard Diehards board told me that all that I said about investing made sense to her but added that she did not have time to partake in a personal quest to discover “the Hold Grail of Investing” and thus felt compelled to invest her money according to what the many experts advocating Buy-and-Hold were telling her. Her number is in the millions.

 

H) A National Debate Is Needed

 

We need a national debate on what works in stock investing. Buy-and-Hold advocates should of course be part of that debate. Buy-and-Hold advocates are smart and good people and have developed many rich insights despite the mistake they made about the core Buy-and-Hold claim (that changing one’s stock allocation in response to big price changes is not necessary for long-term investing success). But we need a debate in which Buy-and-Hold advocates drop the pose of perfect understanding that has kept us from exploring new insights for so many years now. We need to see an openness to new investing ideas if our economic and political systems are to survive today’s crisis. We need to rebuild optimism for the future by partaking in a fresh start in our effort to discover how stock investing works, We need to put aside those of the old rules that no longer work and replace them with better-informed new rules that do.

I believe that it is going to take a populist uprising to get us there. My experience of the past eight years tells me that The Stock-Selling Industry is dead-set opposed to the idea of permitting middle-class investors to learn about the failure of the Buy-and-Hold Model. It is an industry’s dream to have millions of customers who have come to believe that there is no price at which its product does not offer a compelling value proposition. And this field is a field in which a perception of expertise is critical for success; acknowledging mistakes is viewed by most in this field as a career-limiting move. Most of today’s investing experts possess more expertise in salesmanship and in politics and in the construction of pointless word games than they do in how to invest effectively for the long run. Many have lost sight of the point of investing analysis — to help middle-class people finance their retirements. All this needs to change if our way of life is to survive the inevitable collapse of the Buy-and-Hold Model.

Our hope lies in coming to see the move from the Buy-and-Hold Investing Model to the Rational Investing Model (the Rational Model says that investors must consider price when setting their stock allocations) not as an investing question or an economics question but as a political question. We have a long tradition in this country of free speech. Free speech is permitted in our discussions of baseball and novels and nutrition and fashions. It should be permitted in discussions of the flaws of the Buy-and-Hold Model as well.

Once the internet is opened to honest posting on important investment topics, the Buy-and-Hold Era can quickly be brought to an end. There is obviously no one who obtains a benefit by investing ineffectively. So, if investors are permitted to learn about the realities as revealed by the academic research of the past three decades, the percentage of investors who understand that valuations affect long-term returns will gradually increase to the point at which Buy-and-Hold will no longer maintain enough support to be able to do further damage to the U.S. economy. I believe that all who have received benefits under the U.S. economic and political systems should be working hard to bring about that day as quickly as possible.

Buy-and-Hold can never work. But many of the insights developed by the smart and good people who brought us the Buy-and-Hold Model can do wonderful things to help millions when incorporated into a model that does work — the Rational Investing Model, a model that encourages investors to take valuations into consideration when setting their stock allocations.

 

I) Learning Together

 

 

January 2010

 


The Get Rich Slowly forum held two extensive discussions of the arguments put forward in this Google Knol in January 2010. The first focused on the question of whether Buy-and-Hold can work. The second focused on whether the promotion of Buy-and-Hold was the primary cause of the economic crisis.

I’ve recorded two podcasts that make the case for political action to open the internet up to honest posting on the flaws of the Buy-and-Hold Model. One is entitled Why Liberals Should Oppose the Continued Promotion of Buy-and-Hold Investing and the other is entitled Why Conservatives Should Oppose the Continued Promotion of Buy-and-Hold Investing.

 

February 2010

 

The Motley Fool (UK) Community examined this Google Knol in a discussion held in February 2010. A great point raised in that conversation is that this Knol discusses the problem with today’s investing advice but does not offer a detailed solution. I plan in coming days to put forward a Knol that will describe the Valuation-Informed Indexing strategy, which I believe is a more realistic strategy for those investors looking for a safe and effective long-term approach to stock investing.

The Wall Street Bear Discussion Board gives us the perspective of those who do not trust the conventional investing advice. The objection here is that I am naive to believe that any of the ideas developed by the Buy-and-Holders are even well-intentioned (I believe that Buy-and-Hold is gold except for the failure to account for valuations, which poisons everything).

Discussions started at the Hot Air and Free Republic sites, two conservative discussion-board communities, did not take off. There seemed to be skepticism in these communities about my intent in raising questions about Buy-and-Hold, although the grounds for the skepticism were not spelled out.

Steve Pavlina deleted a thread that generated some good discussion at his Personal Development for Smart People Forums. There was no abusiveness on the thread at all, just some good questions. I sent Pavlina an e-mail asking for an explanation for why the thread was deleted, but he did not respond.

I’ve been sending numerous e-mails about the flaws in the Buy-and-Hold model to journalists, bloggers, and investing experts and expect to send many more over the course of 2010. If you would like to read the full text of the e-mail sent to any particular person, please go to my blog (A Rich Life) and enter the name of the person into the search box; that will pull up the blog entry setting forth the text of that e-mail. E-mails have been sent to: (1) Vanguard Funds Group Founder John Bogle; (2) Keith Hennessey, Member of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission; (3) Yale Professor and Irrational Exuberance Author Robert Shiller; (4) Jonathan Curiel, Author of the True Slant Blog; (5) John Hayword, Author of the Doctor Zero Blog; (6) William Jacobson, Author of the Legal Insurrection Blog; (7) the HillBuzz.com Web Site; (8) Cassy FIano, Author of the Cassy Fiano Blog; (9) Jane Hamsher, Owner of the FireDogLake.com Site; (10) Washington Post Columnist E.J. Dionne; (11) New York Times Columnist Paul Krugman; (12) Patrick Courrielche, Journalist at www.BigHollywood.Breitbart.com; (13) Jason Zweig, Author of the Intelligent Investor Column in the Wall Street Journal; (14) Justin Fox, Author of The Myth of the Rational Market; (15) Bill Schultheis, Author of The New Coffeehouse Portfolio; (16) Dallas Morning News Columnist Scott Burns; (17) Former Wall Street Journal Columnist Jonathan Clements; (18) Money Magazine Editor Pat Regnier; (19) Maryland Financial Planner Michael Kitces; and (20) Jim Wiandt, Publisher of the www.IndexUniverse.com site.

Three recent blog entries explore the questions examined in this Google Knol:

  • The Invincible Markets Hypothesis, at the Rajiv Sethi Blog;
  • Fama’s Fallacy, at the EconoSpeak Blog; and
  • “The Invincible Markets Hypothesis” (Commenting on the Above Blog Entry), at the Economist’s View Blog.

Forbes published an article entitled How to Profit from an Inefficient Market. It states that: “We humans are so consistently illogical that our illogic itself is very predictable. For attentive investors, that’s good news. By studying other investors’ recurring patterns of irrational behavior, it is possible to build an investment strategy that profits from the inherent lack of efficiency in markets that are driven by humans.” Have you noticed that it’s always those darn humans that muck up all the wonderful theories of the investing “experts”? We need to figure out a way to create a market that would not require the participation of the darn humans. Then Buy-and-Hold would be aces! Oh, my!

The Pop Economics blog offers “Rob Bait” in a post entitled “Resistance Is Futile: Why Buy-and-Hold Beats Value Investing.” I don’t entirely agree with all of the arguments advanced, but I feel that I can say that my friend Pop has put forward one of the best reasoned and most emotionally balanced cases for the Buy-and-Hold strategy that I have come across. Good job, Pop!

I get the feeling that the stars are shifting in the skies (slowly but surely). I received a warm welcome at the www.BearForum.com board when I introduced the community there to the ideas set forth in this Google Knol.
(There is a charge to view this discussion board.)

Rajiv Sethi, a Professor of Economics at Barnard College, Columbia University, says: “Rob Bennett makes the claim that market timing based on aggregate P/E ratios can be a far more effective strategy than passive investing over long horizons (ten years or more.) I am not in a position to evaluate this claim empirically but it is consistent with Shiller’s analysis and I can see how it could be true.”

Schroeder (a regular at the Goon Central board) put a (perfectly reasonable) post to Rajiv Sethi’s blog and I responded by pointing to a calculator at my web site (“The Investor’s Scenario Surfer”) that shows that Valuation-Informed Indexing is always superior on a risk-adjusted basis to Buy-and-Hold over 30-year time-periods. Rajiv raised some reasonable skepticism about how the calculator is set up. He said: “Rob, I don’t think that randomly generated returns (regardless of the distribution you are using) can provide a convincing test of your claim. What you would need to do is to use historical data (as Schroeder has done) with multiple starting points and horizons. But even this is not enough: the P/E thresholds you choose for switching portfolio composition must be such as to generate on average over time the same asset allocation as the buy and hold strategy. In other words, you can’t pick the critical P/E thresholds (12/20) and the asset allocations (25/50/75) independently: they have to be selected jointly to match the buy and hold asset allocation over long horizons.” My response (too lengthy to post here) is at Rajiv’s blog.

Rajiv Sethi posted an update to his blog post (see above) linking to the Pop Economics blog post (see above) and saying: “For a sober assessment of why passive investing remains the best strategy for most investors despite modest violations of informational efficiency, see this post at Pop Economics.” I posted a comment praising the Pop Economics post for offering a non-dogmatic defense of the Buy-and-Hold Model and offering to write a Guest Blog Entry responding to the points made in it either at the Pop Economics blog or at the Rajiv Sethi blog. I then sent an e-mail to Pop telling him that I was grateful for his efforts to take things in a more constructive and productive and life-affirming direction and asking him to let me know if he has an interest in hosting a Guest Blog Entry.

 

March 2010

 

Andrew Smithers has written a fantastic summary of the points explored in this Google Knol entitled The Efficient Market Theory Must Be Discarded. Juicy Excerpt: “When tested, however, the EMH failed, as real equity returns do not follow a “random walk with drift” but exhibit negative serial correlation. This meant that sustained periods of real returns, which were above the very long-term average, were followed by below average returns and vice versa.  This evidence obviously meant that the EMH, as applied to the stock market in aggregate, must be discarded or modified. Attempts at modification have failed. No one has yet produced a version of the EMH which can be tested and fits the evidence. Thus, the EMH must logically be discarded, as a valid hypothesis must be testable. The simplest explanation of the observed behaviour of returns is that equity markets are moderately or imperfectly rather than perfectly efficient, and rotate around fair value…. It is therefore possible, contrary to the EMH, to know whether markets are overvalued. It is not, however, possible to know when they will crash as, if this could be done, arbitrage would ensure that markets never became misvalued…. It is not correct to claim that no one forecast the financial crisis, as I and others did so. What we did not and could not do is forecast its timing.” That’s the good stuff.

On March 10, the owner of the Monevator blog imposed a ban on honest posting on the flaws of the Buy-and-Hold Model. He said: ” Rob Bennett – I have deleted your comment and my patience has finally run out on allowing you to post your opinions about conspiracy in the markets on my blog. Your comments are misleading and dangerous, and I don’t spend 3-4 hours writing articles to have you append your mantra at the end of every post. There is no conspiracy about valuation in the stock market. This very article mentions valuation…. Everyone knows about valuation. It is discussed non-stop…. He [referring to Benjamin Graham] wrote about valuation in 1935. Yes, this ‘conspiracy’ you see didn’t even exist in 1935. Enough is enough.” I posted a comment saying: “And yet there are many who advocate Buy-and-Hold Investing (failing to adjust your stock allocation in response to big price swings) to this day, Monevator. Why? For what purpose?” The comment was deleted within a few minutes of the time at which it was posted.

We had a friendly and illuminating discussion of the ideas raised in this Google Knol at the Budgets Are Sexy blog, at which I posted a Guest Blog Entry entitled When Stock Prices Crash, Where Does the Money Go? I think that the reason why the discussion went so well is that this particular blog appeals to young readers and so we did not have any Know-It-All Buy-and-Hold Dogmatics in attendance. Discussions of investing are so much more pleasant without the defensiveness that comes into play when a significant number are so concerned with insuring that they never have to admit having gotten something wrong that they see new ideas as a threat.

 

April 2010

 

The owner of the Monevator blog posted a comment (Comment #35) to a thread at the Budgets Are Sexy blog explaining his decision to ban posting on the flaws of the Buy-and-Hold Model at his site. He assured me that “I have no ill-feelings” and proved the point by reporting that “if you look at my Twitter stream just the other day I suggested someone read your blog for more on valuation informed strategies” (I of course thanked Monevator for the kindness). His explanation is that: “Since I stopped allowing your comments, my blood pressure has subsided and I even had some readers thank me. Nobody has asked for them back.” This is by no means an atypical reaction to my writings on the flaws of the Buy-and-Hold Model. I have seen similar reactions from tens of thousands of Buy-and-Holders and even from a good number of big names in the field. I argued in my response that we need to explore why it is that challenges to the validity of the Buy-and-Hold Model prompt such emotional reactions on the part of those promoting or following this model.

 

May 2010

 

Pop Economics posted my long-awaited response to his “Rob Bait” article defending Buy-and-Hold (please see the February updates for background). His introduction to my Guest Blog Entry contained an extremely helpful statement: “Many of Rob’s arguments in favor of value investing actually make a lot of sense—in a way that should make any rational buy-and-holder uncomfortable…. Trust me, it’s worth questioning your assumptions every once in a while.” That’s precisely what needs to be heard from those arguing the pro-Buy-and-Hold position (Pop is making a reasonable case for Buy-and-Hold, he is not endorsing Valuation-Informed Indexing). The blog entry also contains an exclusive Pop-designed psychedelic head shot of me, news which will come as a relief to the thouands who have for too long now been frustrated in their efforts to get their hands on such a thing. The only downer here is that Pop let the Lindauer/Greaney Goons run wild in the Comments section of the blog and they intimidated him into shutting down the thread. Stop letting the 10 percent Goons determine what the 90 percent Normals get to talk about, Blog Owners of America!

Edwin Ivansaukas, the blogger who owns the Finantage blog, learned about our wee little “controversy” by reading the Pop Economics Guest Blog Entry and promised to explore the topic at his own blog. Edwin told me in an e-mail that he is planning a series of articles looking at various aspects of the question. He expressed grave doubts about the claim I make in my Google Knol entitled “The Bull Market Caused the Economic Crisis.” I told Edwin that I think he is proceeding in precisely the right way. We need to make Buy-and-Hold critics feel safe about expressing their sincere views. But we also need to encourage those who believe in the Buy-and-Hold strategy to take on their critics in constructive ways. It is when all community members are putting forward their sincere beliefs that we all enjoy a rich learning experience together. I much look forward to seeing what Edwin comes up with.

Brett Steenbarger, author of The Psyhology of Trading, said that I offer an “interesting view” in my Google Knol entitled The Bull Market Caused the Economic Crisis (please see link just above). I am proud of the work I did on that Knol. I think of it as my Blood on the Tracks.

The Death by 1,000 Papercuts Site has begun running a weekly column in which I explore Investing: The New Rules. They made me promise to only say laudatory things about the “experts” who advocate Buy-and-Hold. Just kidding!

 

June 2010

 

I have published two articles at the Daily Caller site exploring themes relating to the ideas examined in this Google Knol: (1) Can We Handle the Truth About Stock Investing?: and (2) How We Invest Is a Political Question.

Doug Brady writes at the Conservatives for Palin site that: “Rob Bennett, who usually writes about investment strategies, has a piece today in which he predicts that a return to living within our means and personal responsibility, as emphasized by Governor Palin, is what will ultimately put the U.S. economy back on track.” Josh Painter, at  the Texas for Sarah Palin site, expresses skepticism re my prediction that Palin may bring the economic crisis to an end by letting middle-class investors know about the Big Fail of Buy-and-Hold and the need for us all to move to more realistic investment strategies. He says: Despite Bennett’s astonishing prediction, Gov. Palin has never claimed to be able to single-handedly solve the nation’s economic problems. While her common sense recommendations for turning the nation’s economy around are prudent, Bennett’s prediction is less so. If he wants to climb onto a limb and saw it off, as DBKP’s editors suggest, it’s not fair to the governor for him to drag her out there with him.”

 

July 2010

 

The Financial Uproar blog posted an article (“Rob Bennett: Crazy? Or Crazy Like a Fox?) seeking to make sense of the smear campaigns that have been directed at me as punishment for my “crime” of being the first person to report accurate (that is, valuation-adjusted) safe withdrawal rates. Uproar stated: “I’ve always liked what Rob had to say. He has well thought-out opinions about everything he writes. He’s clearly a very intelligent guy. So I decided to click through to his blog (“A Rich Life”) to see what he writes about. Turns out that Rob is just a little crazy.” Uproar invited me to write a Guest Blog Entry about the New School safe withdrawal rate research and I wrote an article entitled “It’s Impossible to Plan a Retirement Without Looking at Valuations.” Uproar described it in a preface as “another guest post by everybody’s crazy personal finance guy Rob Bennett.” He commented that: “I really like this post. It’s short and to the point. It does a good job of giving us all a decent primer to what the heck he’s talking about.” The Wave is building!

Brent Arends reports (accurately) at the Wall Street Journal that the claim that “timing doesn’t work” is a “myth” that The Stock-Selling Industry continues to promote for marketing reasons. He writes (in an article entitled “Ten Stock Market Myths That Just Won’t Die”): “This hoary old chestnut keeps the clients fully invested. Certainly it’s a fool’s errand to try to catch the market’s twists and turns. But that doesn’t mean you have to suspend judgment about overall valuations.” That says it.

 

August 2010

 

The Value Walk site has begun running a weekly column called Valuation-Informed Indexing in which I explain why Buy-and-Hold is a failed model and make the case for Valuation-Informed Indexing as the investing model of the future. Column entries, plus eight introductory articles describing the four unique investment calculators available at my site, are here.

 

September 2010

 

The Daily Caller site has posted ten of my articles relating to the political aspects of the struggle to begin a national debate on the Big Fail of Buy-and-Hold and its role in causing the economic struggle. The titles of the 10 articles are: (1) Can We Handle the Truth about Stock Investing?: (2) How We Invest Is a Political Question; (3) The Economic Crisis Is Trying to Tell Us Something (and We’re Not Listening); (4) Facts Don’t Matter; (5) Going Google Stupid; (6) How Much Transparency Can We Handle?; (7) Confessions of an Internet Troll; (8) Conservatives Fall Into a Trap by Blaming Obama for the Bad Economy; (9) Meet the New Media, Same as the Old Media; and (10) How Restoring Honor Will End the Economic Crisis. They are available here.

 

October 2010

 

I have begun writing a third weekly column on the Big Fail of the Buy-and-Hold Model and the role it played in causing the U.S. economic crisis. It appears Wednesday mornings at the Out of Your Rut site and is called Beyond Buy-and-Hold. The column entries can he found here.

 

 

Comments

 

Thanks for being specific about market timing

 

Thanks for pointing out the difference between long-term and short-term market timing. That is done way too little.

An argument that is often used against (long-term) market timing and in favor of buy-and-hold is that most investors won’t have the nerves to buy (when many have fear) and sell (when many have greed) at the right time. Objective market timing signals are a better solution for that, I may think, than to put your head in the sand with a blind buy-and-hold.

The term “market timing” seems to have got a negative sound to it. Investors, authors and analysts rather speak about buying when P/E’s are low and selling when they are historically high. Isn’t that just talking about an indicator for market timing without using the term itself?

Since you mentioned a post about “Rational Investing System” but didn’t see a link to it, I will Google it to read more about it. I think I will like it.

Trend Investing – Mar 27, 2011

 

We are in complete agreement, Stock Trend Investing. There are good forms of market timing and bad forms of market timing, just as there are good and bad forms of lots of other things. The thing to do is to be clear about what forms of market timing work and what forms do not rather than to make “time” a dirty word. If you’re not timing the market, you’re not paying attention to price. And, if you’re not paying attention to price, you’re lost.

I now use the term “Valuation-Informed Indexing” to refer to what I used to refer to as “Rational Investing.” I’ve written many articles on how Valuation-Informed Indexing works. So you’ll find lots of stuff if you put that term in a Google search engine. Here’s an article that provides a survey of the work I have done in this field, with links to the most important materials:

http://arichlife.passionsaving.com/about/

Thanks much for stopping by and for taking time out of your day to help us all out.

Rob

Rob Bennett – Mar 27, 2011

 

Strawman Argument?

 

I’m not sure I agree with the general theme here, because I think you’ve constructed a bit of a strawman argument. Buy-and-hold is not, like you claim, based on ignoring valuations. It’s also not meant to be practiced mindlessly. It’s buy-and-hold, not buy-and-forget. The fundamental premise of buy-and-hold, at least the way I interpret it, is to purchase only stocks that you are comfortable holding in the long-term, and to refrain from short-term trading in an attempt to game the short-term fluctuations in the market.

An intelligent investor, however, practices systematic rebalancing. Even the simple act of rebalancing between cash and a single stock will enable an investor who practices buy-and-hold to benefit from the ups and downs of a market. When managing a larger portfolio, rebalancing will automatically allow the investor to ease out of over-valued stocks and accumulate their holdings of undervalued ones, thus beating the market.

It’s also possible to utilize your own special knowledge and intuition in order to guide both entry- and exit-points when you practice buy-and-hold. Buy-and-hold investors are in it for the long haul, and they typically sell stocks only in response to major events, such as paying for their children’s education, their own retirement, or major purchases like a car or down-payment on a house. These events can be anticipated, and you can use your knowledge to make a judgment call on timing — sell a bit early, or sell now?

I also think that this article is riddled with repeated assertions and opinions presented as fact. You say: “We know that buy and hold does not work.” Really? Who is “we”? I think that what you really mean to say is that “I believe that buy-and-hold does not work.”

While I think it’s good to offer a novel and critical perspective, I think that you would do well to either step up your level of rigor in this article, or to present it as an opinion piece and not a factual article. It’s too much opinion presented as fact, and, perhaps more importantly, you don’t accurately depict the investment philosophy that you’re trying to tear down. No one advocates a blind “buy-and-hold” philosophy without being tempered with common sense.

Alex Zorach – Jan 29, 2011

 

That’s a super comment, Alex.

We’re obviously not in agreement on the substantive points. But you made your case well and I think you add some balance to a Knol that is otherwise all too one-sided (I think it would be fair to characterize me as the most severe critic of Buy-and-Hold alive on Planet Earth today).

I promise to go back and read your comment from time to time to see if over time some of the points made click with me enough to make me feel that I should make changes in the text of the Knol (rather than just having your comment here to let people know that there is another way of looking at things).

One statement that I can definitely sign onto today is a statement that more agree with your take than with mine. I don’t feel that I can quite characterize this as a mere difference of opinion as there is data and research involved and it is not just my opinion that the data shows that valuations affect long-term returns; that’s an objective fact (at least in my opinion!). But there is no question but that my take (whether opinion or fact) is today a minority take.

My take is that the difference here is that some still believe in University of Chicago Professor Eugene Fama’s research showing that the market is efficient (these are the Buy-and-Holders) and some believe that the research of Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller showing that valuations affect long-term returns discredits the Efficient Market “finding” (we would say that it was never really a finding but merely an interpretation of the finding that short-term timing doesn’t work). I am not able to see how both things can be true. If the market is efficient, overvaluation is a logical impossibility. If overvaluation is real, the market is not efficient. Or at least so it seems to Rob Bennett.

In any event, you have helped us all out by being willing to take time out of your day to share your thinking re these matters with us. I wish you the best in all of your future endeavors!

Rob

Rob Bennett – Jan 28, 2011

 

After sleeping on this, I feel that I owe you a better response re your question about how I define “Buy-and-Hold,” Alex.

I define Buy-and-Hold as “a model for understanding how stock investing works that posits that it is not necessary for investors to engage in market timing to enjoy long-term investing success.”

The problem is the claim that timing is not required (many Buy-and-Holders go so far as to claim that “timing doesn’t work,” which is of course even worse). I try in the Knol to explain how the misunderstanding about timing came about. Research in the 1960s showed that short-term timing doesn’t work. That prompted University of Chicago Economics Professor Eugene Fama to put forward an <i>explanation</i> of this finding. Fama’s explanation was that the market is “efficient,” that is, always priced properly. Yale Economics Professor Robert Shiller showed in 1981 that valuations affect long-term returns and that the market is thus<i>not</i> efficient. If valuations affect long-term returns, stocks are more risky at times of high valuations than they are at times of moderate or low valuations and investors <i>must</i> engage in market timing (long-term timing, the form of timing that works, rather than short-term timing, which of course doesn’t) to have any realistic hope of long-term success. If you don’t time (change your allocation in response to big price swings), you are sooner or later going to be going with a stock allocation that is wildly inappropriate for someone with your risk tolerance. How could that ever work?

I love everything about the Buy-and-Hold Model other than its mistaken claim that timing is not required (or, even worse, the claim you often hear from Buy-and-Holders that timing is a bad idea!). I propose Valuation-Informed Indexing, which is Buy-and-Hold with the Get Rich Quick element (it is Get Rich Quick thinking that persuades many that going with a wildly inappropriate stock allocation might work out somehow) removed.

Is this all just my opinion? I say “no,” because it is the 140 years of historical stock-return data that shows that valuations affect long-term returns. The academic research of the past 30 years and the historical data going back as far as we have records <i>support</i> this particular opinion of mine while all that I know of that supports the idea that timing is not required is the unfortunate reality that the marketing departments of the big funds have found it profitable to persuade investors that stocks are a good thing to buy regardless of how insanely high they are priced.

All that said, there are many smart and good people who believe strongly that I am wrong about all this. Nothing could be more clear.

I thank you again for your helpful comment, Alex. Take care, my new friend.

Rob

Rob Bennett – Jan 29, 2011

 

 

Useful Knowledge

 

Very useful knol edge. I look forward to learn more. Thank you.

James Austin – Oct 8, 2010

 

Thanks for those kind words, James.

Rob

Rob Bennett – Oct 8, 2010

 

 

Typo?

 

Hi,

2nd para, first sentence: “The history of the strategy can be traced back to the mid-1500s, when the idea of an “efficient” market first surfaced. ”

Did you intend to jump from the mid-1500s to the 1960s? Did you mean the mid-1950s?

Just checking. Otherwise– helpful, informative and I’ll be passing it along, thanks.

Anonymous – Jan 16, 2010

 

Thanks for taking the time to post your comment, TinLizzie.

No, that’s not a typo. I certainly do acknowledge that it’s a strange fact, however. It’s a strange fact that points to something important; that’s why I put it in. Please click on the link that appears where those words appear to view the documentation of this fact.

Most people think of the Efficient Market Theory as something new. Most people think of Buy-and-Hold as something new. I don’t think of either of these things as being new. They are really very, very old ideas dressed up in modern clothes. Since the first market opened for business, there has been a struggle between the idea of investing rationally (taking price into consideration when making allocation decisions) and investing emotionally (not taking price into consideration when making allocation decisions).

It is foolish not to take price into consideration. It never works. It’s not even possible for the rational human mind to imagine circumstances in which it ever could work. But yet we return to this “idea” again and again. There must be something that gives this idea great appeal. What is it?

The key to understanding this is appreciating that WE are the market. When we say that the market is efficient, we are saying that WE are efficient. When we say that the market is rational, we are saying that WE are rational. When we say that the market is perfect, we are saying that WE are perfect. Believing in Buy-and-Hold Investing is an exercise in flattery.

Have you ever met a person who was full of himself, who was so arrogant that he or she could not admit being wrong about anything? That’s what the investing public becomes as a collective entity when it becomes entranced with the Buy-and-Hold idea. One of the slogans that Buy-and-Holders love is “You can’t beat the market!” Again, WE are the market. What they are saying is — You can’t beat us — we are just so amazingly wonderful that nothing could ever be better!

What we need when we get caught up in the Buy-and-Hold “logic” is a dose of humility. That’s why God invented stock crashes. Once Buy-and-Hold becomes popular enough, there is only one way to bring it to can end — through a price crash that destroys so much wealth that it brings some humility to the arrogant proponents of the idea that this particular day’s investors have become so perfect that they can never be “beat.”

I am hoping that we can change this dynamic. The name of the book that I am working on is “Investing for Humans.” My argument is that humans are indeed drawn to excessive pride and thus investors are always going to feel temptations to yield to social pressures to go along with Buy-and-Hold “strategies.” But humans ALSO have learned to care for each other and to help each other practice humility. What if we focused more on these attributes rather than the attributes that cause us to promote Buy-and-Hold? We could develop the intelligence and compassion and fortitude to IGNORE the temptations to give in to desires to follow Get Rich Quick approaches.

I see this as being 70 percent of the investing project. The first job of anyone who chooses to become an investing expert is to develop the skills needed to convince others not to give in to the desire to believe in Buy-and-Hold approaches. The numbers stuff (which is indeed important) is secondary. There are smart people who say that people have been falling into the Buy-and-Hold trap ever since the first market opened for business and that this will always be the case. I don’t buy it. I think it’s a question of how hard you work it. I believe that the pain that comes with following Buy-and-Hold strategies has become so great now that the middle-class needs to finance its own retirements that we have no choice but to DO SOMETHING about this problem.

Anyway, the point of the reference to the mid-1500s was to show that the Buy-and-Hold problem has been around for a long, long time. This is something that has roots deep in human nature. We are all drawn to fantasies that we are perfect and cannot make mistakes. The entire point of Buy-and-Hold is to develop an indifference to evidence that we are making mistakes as investors (mistakes evidence themselves in overvaluation or undervaluation). The entire point of Rational Investing is to develop a desire to want to protect oneself from mistakes, which requires being aware of them, which requires being willing to look at the price of the stocks we buy before putting money down on the table.

Thanks again for helping out, TinLizzie. And thanks for your kind words as well.

Rob

Rob Bennett – Jan 26, 2010

 

Filed Under: investing theory

VII #85 — The Wall Street Journal Story That Didn’t Bark

March 26, 2012 by Rob

I’ve posted Entry #85 to my weekly Valuation-Informed Indexing column at the Value Walk site. It’s called The Wall Street Journal Story That Didn’t Bark.

Juicy Excerpt: I’ve been telling people about the other half of the story for 10 years now. People often tell me that everything I say about investing makes perfect sense but that they just cannot bring themselves to go along with the ideas I put forward because the “experts” tell a very different story. So I was excited to see this article. The Wall Street Journal is of course a highly respected publication.

I was thinking that following this article we would see lots of publications publishing follow-up pieces. The New York Times would write a ten-part series on how we all were taken in by Buy-and-Hold and run it on the front page. Hundreds of blogs would start helping their readers learn about what the academic research of the past 30 years says about how to invest effectively. We would all agree to work together to bring the economic crisis to an end as soon as possible. That sort of thing.

We didn’t see any of that. Perhaps you’ve noticed.

Filed Under: VII Column Tagged With: Bret Arends, investment myths, market timing, Wall Street Journal

Rob Bennett

March 25, 2012 by Rob

Rob Bennett’s A Rich Life blog aims to put the “personal” back into “personal finance” — he focuses on the role played by emotion in saving and investing decisions. Rob developed the Passion Saving approach to money management; Passion Savers save not to finance their old-age retirements but to enjoy more freedom and opportunity in their 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s — because they pursue saving goals over which they feel a more intense personal concern, they are more motivated to save effectively. He also developed the Valuation-Informed Indexing investing strategy, a strategy that combines the most powerful insights of Vanguard Founder John Bogle and Yale Professsor Robert Shiller in a simple approach offering higher returns at greatly diminished risk. Tom Gardner, co-founder of the Motley Fool web site, said of Rob’s work: “The elegant simplicty of his ideas warms the heart and startles the brain.”

 

A) Education and Early Career

 

Rob Bennett graduated from Temple University, in Philadelphia. He majored in Political Science. He holds a law degree from the Columbus School of Law at Catholic University of America, and a Masters in the Law of Taxation from George Washington University School of Law.

Rob covered the IRS and Capitol Hill beats for The Daily Tax Report, a newsletter published by The Bureau of National Affairs, Inc., in the 1980s.  He then wrote the Tax Politics column and managed the Tax Notes Today database for Tax Analysts. After two years at Tax Analysts, he was employed at the National Tax Department of the Ernst & Young accounting and consulting firm for nine years. He rose to the level of Director. He resigned on August 1, 2000, with enough money saved for his family of four to live off of the earnings from his investments while he built his internet writing business.

 

B) Passion Saving

 

Foreseeing the power of the internet to revolutionize our understanding of personal finance, Rob began building the Retire Early discussion board into the most successful board in the history of the Motley Fool site (www.fool.com) in late 1999. His special report, Secrets of Retiring Early, was the #1 best-selling report in the history of the www.Soapbox.com site and he was hired by Motley Fool to serve as an instructor for its online retirement planning course. Thousands of the most effective savers in the world came to congregate at Rob’s board, and the insights developed through the discussions held there became the engine for his book Passion Saving: The Path to Plentiful Free Time and Soul-Satisfying Work. 

The book argues that the key to effective saving is for the saver to pursue a goal other than an old-age retirement because only goals that can be realized within five years supply sufficient ongoing motivation to support a strong saving effort.  Rob explains that saving buys financial freedom and that financial freedom provides huge benefits at all stages of life, not only when one’s working days have come to an end. Motivated savers are effective savers and effective savers experience little trouble financing their old-age retirements when the time comes to do so, according to the book.

Tom Gardner, co-founder of the Motley Fool site, said of the book: “The elegant simplicity of his ideas warms the heart and startles the brain.” Mark Michael Lewis, host of the Money, Mission and Meaning talk show, said: “You’ve accomplished something radical with your idea of Passion Saving.” Dollar Stretcher Book Reviewer Beatrix Fernandez called the book “The Your Money or Your Life book for a new generation.” MSN Money Columist Liz Pulliam Weston featured Rob’s saving ideas in a profile of three couples who left the corporate world to do the kinds of work that satisfied them. ABC News said of Rob’s unconventional saving approach: “This is pretty exciting!”

Today, Rob authors the “A Rich Life” blog and the articles that appear at the www.PassionSaving.com site.Significant articles on saving available at the www.PassionSaving.com site include: (1) 8 Paths to Financial Independence; (2) Unconventional Mid-Life Career Change Tips; (3) The Meaning of Work — A Love Song; (4) Give Up Television and Grow Rich; and (5) 10 Reasons for Paying Off the Mortgage.

 

C) Valuation-Informed Indexing

 

In recent years, Rob’s focus has been on helping investors make the shift from the failed Buy-and-Hold model to the investing model of the future, Valuation-Informed Indexing. The series of internet discussions initiated by Rob in May 2002 — “The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Debate” — has become the most controversial and the most exciting series of investing discussions ever held on this new communications medium. Numerous boards and blogs have banned Rob and others arguing that investors must take valuations into consideration when setting their stock allocations on grounds that it would be “dangerous” for investors to learn that the academic research has shown for 30 years now that the chances of Buy-and-Hold ever producing good results for the long-term investor are precisely zero. But both big names and ordinary investors have applauded Rob’s efforts to bring reason to discussions of investing by persuading Buy-and-Hold advocates to acknowledge that encouraging investors to stay at the same stock allocation when valuations rise to insanely dangerous levels always brings on a stock crash and an economic crises. Rob’s Valuation-Informed Indexing approach combines the most powerful insights of Vanguard Founder John Bogle and Yale Professor Robert Shiller into a strategy that actually works in the real world. Rob argues that Bogle and Shiller go together like chocolate and peanut butter!

Michael Harr, founder of Walden Advisors, has described Valuation-Informed Indexing as “a very solid approach to investing.” Norbert Schenkler, a financial planner, performed an analysis of the historical record showing that: “The evidence is pretty incontrovertible. Valuation-Informed Indexing…is everywhere superior to Buy-and-Hold over ten-year periods.” Bill Schultheis, author of The New Coffeehouse Portfolio, exclaimed upon discovery of the investing materials available at www.PassionSaving.com: “Holy Toledo! This is great stuff!” Carl Richards, owner of Clearwater Asset Management, wrote: “I have read everything I can about Valuation-Informed Indexing, and I agree with you that Buy-and-Hold Passive Investing is extremely problematic…. I think what you are doing has huge value.”

John Walter Russell, a retired government engineer, met Rob during the Motley Fool discussions and devoted the last eight years of his life (John died in October 2009) to researching the investing strategies they developed together (with help from the hundreds of community members who participated constructively in The Great Debate discussions). John and Rob together developed four unique calculators:

 

1) The Stock-Return Predictor

 

This stock valuation calculator performs a regression analysis of the historical stock-return data to reveal to investors the most likely 10-year return for a broad U.S. index starting from any of the possible starting-point valuation levels. For example, the Return Predictor told investors that the most likely annualized 10-year return at the prices that applied in 1982 was 15 percent real and that the most likely annualized 10-year return at the prices that applied in 2000 was a negative 1 percent real. Investors learning these realities know when to increase or lower their stock allocations to obtain far higher returns at greatly diminished risk — Investor heaven!

 

2) The Retirement Risk Evaluator

 

This calculator is the first retirement calculator that reports the safe withdrawal rate (SWR) accurately. Earlier calculators (used by 90 percent of today’s retirement planners) fail to include a valuation adjustment and thus claim that the SWR (the percentage that retirees can remove from their portfolios each year with virtual assurance that their retirements will survive 30 years) is a constant number (4 percent). The Risk Evaluator shows that the SWR varies from a low of 2 percent (for retirements beginning at timess of super-high valuations) to a high of 9 percent (for retirements beginning at times of super-low valuations). The retirement planning implications of this finding are of course far-reaching.

 

3) The Investor’s Scenario Surfer

 

This portfolio allocation calculator permits investors to compare various rebalancing (Buy-and-Hold) strategies with Valuation-Informed Indexing strategies over a 30-year time-period in which the return sequence is consistent with those we have seen throughout the historical record. It shows that long-term timing (Valuation-Informed Indexing) beats rebalancing in 90 percent of the possible returns sequences. It turns out that market timing (the long-term variety, not the discredited short-term variety) works afterall!

 

4) The Investment Strategy Tester

 

This investment strategy calculator allows investors to design up to four investment strategies and compare how they perform in 1,000 possible return sequence. Knowing the odds for a particular strategy helps the investor know whether the risks associated with it are worth taking on. The Strategy Tester generally shows that super-safe asset classes like Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) offer a better long-term value proposition than stocks when stocks are selling at insanely inflated prices (as they were for the entire time-period from January 1996 through September 2008).

Rob has recorded 200 podcasts exploring in considerable depth various aspects of the Valuation-Informed Strategy and the emotional impulses that draw us to Buy-and-Hold strategies despite their poor track record. Five of the most significant are: 1) RobCast #8, The Coming Revolution in Investing Advice; 2) RobCast #72,When Stock Losses Are True Losses and When They Are Not; 3) RobCast #132, Cash Is a Strategic Asset Class; 4) RobCast #137 — Nine Valuation-Informed-Indexing Portfolio Allocation Strategies; and 5) RobCast #171 — 30 Investment Myths in 60 Minutes.

The investing book that Rob is working on will be entitled Investing for Humans: How to Get What Works on Paper to Work in Real Life.

 

D) Personal

 

Rob is 53. He lives in Purcellville, VA, with his wife Mary (she goes by “Boo”) and their two boys, Timothy (age 10) and Robert (age 8). His free time is spent reading novels exploring Catholic themes (Michael O’Brian, Graham Greene, Flannery O’Connor, etc.) and playing Monopoly and Stratego with the boys. His three favorite songs are: (1) Mrs. Robinson; (2) Get Back; and (3) Blind Willie McTell.

 

Filed Under: Rob Bennett

Are Stock Gains and Losses Real?

March 23, 2012 by Rob

I’ve posted a Guest Blog Entry at the Consumerism Commentary site titled Are Stock Gains and Losses Real?

Juicy Excerpt: Losses suffered starting from super-high prices are never recovered. When you pay more than a fair price for stocks, a portion of your money is going to the purchase of stocks and a portion is going to the purchase of cotton-candy nothingness. Prices always return to fair value. So these price drops are not so much losses as they are the market coming to recognize phony gains experienced at an earlier time for what they really are.

Juicy Comment #1: In some cases I find this article confusing, in others cases I find it dangerous.

Juicy Comment #2: Gains are only real gains when you sell.

Juicy Comment #3: Once you get to retirement, the income statement rules!!

Juicy Comment #4: This entire article leans on the parenthetical definition of fair value “(that’s a P/E10 value of 15)”. Since it’s in a parenthetical I guess that means you don’t have to prove it?

Juicy Comment #5: “(That’s a P/E10 value of 15)” assumes:  (1) That stocks have a fair value; (2) That that fair value can be determined; (3) That the metric to determine it is P/E10; and (4) That the correct number for that metric is between 14 and 16.

Juicy Comment #6: The concept and strategy is so sound, that in my mind, it is irrefutable. Investors need to grasp the concept of how important valuation is in determining future returns. Everyone can make there own variations of how they implement the concept.

Filed Under: Guest Blog Entries Tagged With: Consumerism Commentary, investment strategy, stock gains, stock losses, stock price changes

ITNR #96 — Why Wall Street Doesn’t Want You to Know the Truth About Stock Investing: Part Two

March 22, 2012 by Rob

I’ve posted Entry #96 to my weekly Investing: The New Rules column at the Death by 1,000 Papercuts site. It’s called Why Wall Street Doesn’t Want You to Know the Truth About Stock Investing: Part Two.

Juicy Excerpt: The financial press is toothless. Politicians who mess up get grilled. But reporters in the investing field are intimidated by the quasi-scientific claims made by Buy-and-Holders. It’s a special few who are able to work up the courage to ask hard questions of a John Bogle or a Warren Buffett or a Robert Shiller.

Filed Under: Investing: The New Rules Tagged With: financial crisis, investing truth, wall street

Beyond Buy-and-Hold #80 — Nothing Brings Down the Savings Rate as Much as a Bull Market

March 21, 2012 by Rob

I’ve posted Entry #80 to my weekly Beyond Buy-and-Hold column at the Out of Your Rut site. It’s called Nothing Brings Down the Savings Rate as Much as a Bull Market.

Juicy Excerpt: To persuade millions of people who need to save that they they do not need to save is a bad thing. That’s what Buy-and-Hold did to us. It persuaded us that we didn’t need to save even though we did. It hurt us. It tricked us. It pandered to our most greedy and lazy and self-destructive emotional impulses. It made us the worst that we can possibly be.

Filed Under: Beyond Buy-and-Hold Tagged With: arguments against Buy-and-Hold, savings rate

VII #83 — Retirees Should Not Be Afraid to Invest Heavily in Stocks

March 20, 2012 by Rob

I’ve posted Entry #83 to my weekly Valuation-Informed Indexing column at the Value Walk site. It’s called Retirees Should Not Be Afraid to Invest Heavily in Stocks.

Juicy Excerpt: The safe withdrawal rate wasn’t anything close to what the “experts” were saying it was back in the days when I was being hit over the head with bricks for reporting the number accurately. But valuations have fallen since then. The safe withdrawal rate is close to 4 percent today. My calculator shows that the withdrawal rate that has a 95 percent chance of surviving 30 years for a retirement beginning at today’s valuation level is 3.75 percent. If you were willing to go with a retirement that is only reasonably safe (an 80 percent chance of working out) and you were retiring today, you could go with a withdrawal rate of 4.35 percent.

It’s obviously true that a portfolio going with a low stock allocation is generally safer than a portfolio going with a high stock allocation. So, yes, we can solve the problem of our having caused millions of failed retirements by encouraging retirees to go with low stock allocations. That solution doesn’t come free of cost, however. Investors who go with low stock allocations when that is not a good idea lower their returns by doing so. Telling people to go with unnecessarily low stock allocations delays their retirements.

The purpose of retirement research should not be to delay retirements any more than it should be to cause failed retirements. The idea should be to report the numbers accurately. Reporting the numbers accurately permits aspiring retirees to retire as soon as is possible consistent with their desire to enjoy safe retirements.

Filed Under: VII Column Tagged With: retirement planning, SWRs

ITNR #95 — Why Wall Street Doesn’t Want You to Know the Truth About Stock Investing: Part One

March 19, 2012 by Rob

I’ve posted Entry #95 to my weekly Investing: The New Rules at the Death by 1,000 Papercuts site. It’s called Why Wall Street Doesn’t Want You to Know the Truth About Stock Investing: Part One.

Juicy Excerpt: The case for Valuation-Informed Indexing is strong. But the case is not yet rock-solid. For the case to become rock-solid, we would first need to see a national debate in which all of our fundamental beliefs about how stock investing works were put into question. The Buy-and-Holders have been successful in stopping the debate from moving forward by creating a Social Taboo against even suggesting that such a thing is needed. The result is that they remain able to make the argument that the case for Valuation-Informed Indexing is not as strong as advocates of the new model would like it to become.

Filed Under: Investing: The New Rules Tagged With: financial crisis, wall street

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  • Favorite RobCasts

    • Bogle and Valuations

    • When Stock Losses Are True Losses and When They Are Not

    • There Is No Free Lunch! Or Is There?

    • Risk Tolerance in the Real World

    • Cash Is a Strategic Asset Class

    • Nine Valuation-Informed-Indexing Portfolio Allocation Strategies

    • Why the Stock Market Does Not Set Prices Properly (Even Though Other Markets Do)

    • Only Valuations Matter -- Everything Else Is Priced In

    • Low Stock Prices Are Better Than High Stock Prices

    • 30 Investment Myths in 60 Minutes

    Links That Matter

    • Ten Bogus Investing Truths

    • Study by Associate Professor Wade Pfau Showing That Long-Term Timing Provides Higher Returns at Reduced Risk

    • Study by Associate Professor Wade Pfau Showing That Valuation-Informed Indexing Beat Buy-and-Hold in 102 of 110 Rolling 30-Year Time-Periods in the Historical Record

    • Wall Street Journal Article Pointing Out That the Idea That Long-Term Market Timing Does Not Work Is a "Myth" of Stock Investing "That Will Not Die" Because "This Hoary Old Chestnut Keeps Clients Fully Invested" Even When It Is Contrary to Their Best Interests

    • Wall Street Journal Article Pointing Out That" "This Ratio (P/E10) Has Been a Powerful Predictor of Long-Term Returns" and That "Valuation Is By Far the Most Important Issue for Investors"

    • The Internet Blowhard's Favorite Phrase: Why Do People Love to Say That Correlation Does Not Imply Causation?

    • Michael Kitces (One of the Bravest of the Good Guys in This Field) Asks: "Who's Really at Risk When Avoiding Overvalued Stocks?"

    • Financial Mentor Article Reporting on How Our Knowledge of How to Calculate Safe Withdrawal Rates Has Grown During the First Nine Years of The Great Safe Withdrawal Rate Debate

    • Does the Trend Matter?

    • Improving RIsk-Adjusted Returns Using Market-Valuation-Based Tactical Asset Allocation Strategies

    • A Value Restoration Project Blog Post That Sums Up in Three Paragraphs All You Need to Know to Become a Highly Effective Investor

    • Year 20 Annualized, Real, Total Return v. P/E10

    • Year 10 Annualized, Real, Total Return v. P/E10

    • Valuation-Informed Indexing Always Superior to Buy-and-Hold Over 10-Year Periods

    • The Valuation-Informed Indexing Advantage

    • What P/E10 Predicted vs. What Actually Happened

    • Normal and Valuation-Adjusted Wealth Accumulation

    • Valuation-Informed Indexers Can Retire Five Years Sooner

    • Following Valuation-Informed Indexing Strategies Reduces Stock Investing Risk by 80 Percent

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